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>pop in a genesis game >turn up the volume >BWAAANNNNGGGGGG

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>pop in a genesis game
>turn up the volume
>BWAAANNNNGGGGGG

What is it with genesis games always having such shitty music?
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>>3029529
Get a better audio cable and don't turn the volume up so high. The genesis is very prone to distortion from volume.
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>>3029529
quit playing western shit retard
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>>3029529
stop playing the shit ones. plenty of genesis games have amazing soundtracks. also if you don't have a specific model 1 then you're fucked
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>>3029529

Difficult to compose for sound system with the standard set.
It needed work to compose something of higher quality but then it could sound amazing.
Work which many developers did not put into it.
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https://youtu.be/5-EkR7B9PbY?list=PLSVgM9wgJ250U10Q0apCB33nHMzvcUYIn
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG1c2U4ld2Y
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>>3029606
Sounds shrill as fuck
>>3029797
That's dope
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>>3029532

>i have to not enjoy things because sega used shitty hardware
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>>3029529
>Genesis fags actually think the Genesis sounds better and has a better library than the SNES
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>its another anti-SEGA hate fest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bf-EGuMfag

Shit so cash it was issued on vinyl.
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>>3029882
>Digital synthesized music on an archaic analog format
WHY
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>>3029529
0/10 try again
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I always liked the Gemfire music on the Genesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGdhew4GlJw

The SNES version is slightly more refined I suppose, but this is pretty cool. All the farty noises and beeps.
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GBA sound hardware is much worse.
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>>3029529
>super nintenfags will defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7weSY9Ofk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LffloEsklvA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNWqR5zjVgI
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>>3029529
nice meme.

SAGE.
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>>3029907
Because IT SOUNDS WARM
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>sega
The fedora of retro gaming
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>>3029529
>What is it with genesis games always having such shitty music?
Shitty composers and shittier programmers.
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>>3029973
>>3029974
>>>/v/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XLC9bpoDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMYnjWBpIM

Langrisser/Warsong OST is pretty good
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>>3029953
AoB&R OST is like the SoR3 OST, but without the noodly shit that doesn't work
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Two tracks trying to do a similar thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvkkqxs8m0


Sega should have sued Nintendo for stealing the After burner tune.
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>>3029529
>Genesis games always have shitty music
Rocket Knight Adventures, Sonic the Hedgehog series, Streets of Rage 2, Earthworm Jim, Toejam and Earl, Comix Zone, Ecco, Shinobi III, and Mega Turrican, just to name a few.
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>>3029529
Yeah, the genesis produced some very abrasive sounds, but then again, some composers knew how to make nice and easy on the ears music with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogHpm0BwCPU
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>>3029529
This is now a genesis OST thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoJv-9QCwOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ8BAjaREtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkJBZGuVWuo
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>>3030034
Yes, agreed. Those are all games that sound like crap on the Genesis.
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>>3029907
Because hipsters will buy anything.
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>>3029529
pc98, x68k and arcade had much better FM BWANG t b h. Genesis just cant produce enough BWANG.
also better pcm samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE76HbDs6M4

also SNESfags are pussies. Neo Geo is better than both. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLXroTURtTo
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>>3029529
The only Genesis game that makes that noise at the start is X-Men and that's your fault for playing that dookie game instead of the superior sequel.
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>>3029907
I'd get it if it were the samples Koshiro used while being a DJ at nightclubs instead of the original Genesis soundtrack.
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>>3030245
Don't they all use the 2151? It's a similar but more advanced chip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ8iIGHp6Zs
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>>3029882
>>3029907
they should release it on cassette tape.
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>>3029874
The truth is hard to cope with huh
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>>3030254

It's from the pc88 original
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>>3030280
I love that album
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>>3029874

It does though. Listening to TF4 right desu
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>>3030245
The YM2151 isn't that much better than the 2612 though, it has a couple more channels and a few little differences, but that's it.
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>>3029529

Because you keep seeking out and playing the bad games. Come back when you actually get some taste.
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>>3030245
>>3030324

There a good amount of ym2612 OSTs that blow way the ym2151 version.

Midnight resistance and Zero wing come to mind.
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>pop in a SNES game
>turn up the volume
>Nothing but pure fucking audio bliss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67nkzoJ_2M
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>>3030335
Those arcades aren't a YM2151, they are a YM3812 which is similar to adlib i think.

But then again, the YM2612 is quite close to the YM2151, inferior but not by much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=panJ-xSOmjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1VxEXPVqU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazxSQz0yL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCHKaV0C-oQ
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>>3030358
Those small beeps ruin it for me.
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>>3030358

>pop in a SNES game
>Turn up the volume
>Nothing but pure audio cancer
>censored intro for babies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtOoWRMLThk
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>>3029874
Ignore Euroscum

Do not respond to Europoor posters

Hide """""""""PAL"""""""" threads

>these are the same idiots who worship crash bandicoot as an icon of gaming
Nuff said
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>>3030429
what the fuck are you on about?
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>>3029874
>thnking a shitty low quality sampler can compete with glorious FM synthesis

baka desu senpai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIAhzZysz5Y&index=6
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>>3029529
>>3030034
>>3030067
>>3030097

>ME CANT TWINK OUSHIDE OF THE BABBLU
>EMU GENNY SOUND IS GUD ENOUGH

Its Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ufAnfVWPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzPOwwNSOQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-GHTGR3DN0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie1yVhXkpCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxrllRDbrNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e84DscCNmQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82AQJ5YZ80o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqxUe27KFyk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWZCcBh06I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ExcsdPnsI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGv-hm45GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rmEPAp2730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMXOWFgB5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s9gFb03suo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVZPfPqSWUc

And of course some Sakamoto blessedness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nBMS8-nqWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46-mGN1D9z8
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>>3030029
Dude, have the decensy to post real hardware music rip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLDBwMusg4o

35:12 for Metal Squad!
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>>3029874

>even Miyamoto shat on the best game of the library

ayy
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>>3029529
That's because you are not playing on a Genesis, dipshit. Your ATGames clone is NOT a Genesis and yes it's shit.
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>>3029953

an impressively good use of irritating farts and buzzes

but they're still crappy instrument sounds, and the hardware shouldn't have been designed so as to make them so unavoidable as they apparently were
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>>3030446

a low quality sampler can compete with a low quality synthesizer, yes

and vice versa
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>>3029953
post real hardware retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3zqW1foGGQ
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>>3030662
>32khz
ayy lmao
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>>3030335
>>3030363

Another for the better than arcade list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgopUbZ3BH8
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>>3030662

No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzfPAlsNJeU
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>>3030670
That doesn't sound better than the arcade, and my list was for games that sounded close to the arcade, not better.
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>>3030649

>I don't know anything about FM synthesis.
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>>3030358

Is that the song you listen to while your mom wipes your ass for you?

Here's some real shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySwEktYEIs0
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>>3030678

Yeah it does. Listen to both on headphones.
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>>3030689
>exaggerated bends = better
naw nigga
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>>3030429
Many PAL games are superior to their NTSC counterparts, such as Super Smash Bros. Melee for the Nintendo GameCube.
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>>3029529
Fucking Moonwalker
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>>3029529
EHEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMfLhDFT8Uk
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>>3030673
lmao that sounds so fucking shitty compared to the actual track
i feel bad for people who were stuck with a genesis growing up desu
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>all these faggots still fighting console wars 25 years later
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Two main reasons:

1. American devs weren't that good with music composition and often just stuck to the default sound envelopes
2. The Genesis had a ridiculously huge amount of hardware revisions so that game music could sound markedly different depending on what model of console you had
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>>3030730
Gennyfag here and I do agree that that one isn't that great.
The same guy did a stellar rendition of the Flame Mammoth theme though, so I don't know why he didn't post that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPNr79y0s94

Listening to the original Mega Man X soundtrack again, however, I realise that it doesn't really sound as good as I remembered it.
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>>3029529
>genesis music is shit
I can name at least 10 different titles alone that beg to differ
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>>3029529
>BWAAANNNNGGGGGG
It's called FM synthesis.
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>>3029907
It's good music though. And I bet they recorded it in optimal conditions, low noise, EQd, mastered on nice gear, etc.

I wouldn't buy it but I'm definitely curious.
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sure genesis had some good tunes, but for the most part it sounds a lot worse than the snes
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>>3030902
but it also had the banginest bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_TFrpU7GI
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METALLLLLLLLLLL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0qIVPZ_Cs4
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I think the Genny's crunchy sound was better suited to the tough-guy games it was known for while the SNES's soft FM music fit its more cutesy pastel-colored library.
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>>3029917
>farty noises and beeps
I personally think this version the soundtrack is fun, and the bass line on most tracks is very catchy and wasn't as "punchy" on the SNES.
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>>3031058
It can do things besides crunch fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YPf2RgsxbU
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>>3029978
I love the "Warsong/Langrisser" series more than I have any right to, and "Warsong" got me hooked on it all. The soundtrack to me was fantastic. I will never forget that music. So, so good.
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>>3029529
>What is it with genesis games always having such shitty music?

BRUMM! BWONG BLONG! BRRRSSHHH!

The Yamaha chip is capable of a wide range of sounds but you get a lot of that standard genesis sound set simply because it was provided by Sega and developers can be lazy.
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>>3029604

A good example is Tim Follin, who pretty much threw the standard set out the window and started from scratch on the Genesis.
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>>3030664

Fucking emulator recordings, man. Always clipping the fuck off.
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>>3029862
>having the volume at 100%
Are you deaf or a shitter who likes being loud?
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THERE'S A REASON THESE THINGS ARE CALLED BEEPBOOPS, YOU IDIOTS
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>>3029862
>sega used shitty hardware
I know you're some 12 year old nintendo troll up past their bed time, but you do understand that FM Synth is a legitimate instrument, still used to day, correct? Unlike the SNES baby fart simulator chip they use for audio
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>>3029529
Typical Genesis music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62PVfghXtc

Typical SNES music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bH3_0Qhewc
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>>3030029
Lylat Wars there sounds better to me.

I can't get over the scratchy, noisy tunes so many Sega games feature, I mean, am I the only one who picks up on that hollow metallic ringing that comes every time the Genesis tries to do faux electric guitars?
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>>3030029
Both are good.
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Mega Drive music done right ie Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Sanic etc was great. A lot more bass and depth than tinny SNES music.

Seems mostly the Western made games that had the twangy fart music, even then stuff like Toejam & Earl or Road Rash had some nice music
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>>3030446
>thnking a shitty low quality sampler can compete with glorious FM synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWxBwTLGQs&index=5&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-nWFfTvzM&index=6&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3fo9KSB9h0&index=9&list=PLF4AB0AA962A9E658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4WkEWk_Htk&list=PLF4AB0AA962A9E658&index=16
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>>3032253
>and depth than tinny SNES music.

LOL you just lost all little credibility you had.
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>>3030429
Eurofags wouldn't call the Mega Drive a "Genesis", now would they?
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>>3032265

>compression makes things sound deeper!
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>>3032265
SNES uses very low quality samples. You can't deny that.
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Most SNES "fans" have never actually heard what the console really sounds like.

The SNES music you hear from emulators or Youtube (which mostly consists of music captured from emulators) is just a "cleaned up" reproduction without the shitty filtering you get on the real thing.
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>All these people posting unfiltered songs recorded from an emulator
This shit is why the Mega Drive sound chip has such a shitty reputation. The sound coming out of a real Mega Drive is much more pleasing to the ear due to the low-pass filters removing harsh, ear grating noise like what >>3032230 describes.
https://www.youtube.com/user/DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL
This guy uploads full soundtracks recorded from a real Genny. While TFIV will ruin your ears when you play on an emulator, it actually sounds much better when played on the real hardware, as in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLDBwMusg4o
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>tfw getting baked and listening to this song on the way to Taco Bell

Good times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t9HvMXU2wo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMNDKSEAjA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxdZz7tGhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2eEjdDNNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ANUyxGVXPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4NlsMchOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAacW3CveL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE8_2CLIQPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0iIZf9B8nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiRkQ7YM3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPr4V1c2VqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk72RMv9d0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUAxFhJt5Xk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXw_txpn_aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGTBhy0ynew
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>>3032337
puyo puyo has great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXAiZNMowJM
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Genesis twang is iconic though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GtToG_j5go

While in some cases it sounded awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dI4lTkJW4&list=PLC569F73BB735B434&index=5

There are cases where it sounded great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUI0sfmfF1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUI0sfmfF1Y
The SNES had decent BGM pieces for sure, but not many of them were good as freestanding songs.
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>>3029943
I wouldn't defend either one. They both ruined one of the best pieces from the movie.
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>>3031543
NINTENYEAROLDS BTFO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8HAzcsCrg4

YM2612 cover of Stickerbrush Symphony. 10/10 bretty gud
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>>3030670
That's an ok remix but i still prefer the arcade. I prefer this Genesis remix, sounds pretty close to the arcade (fuck Capcom for their poor effort)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLyVmgXEiac
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So why haven't MD emulators figured out how to make their YM2612 sound as pretty as a model 1? We've got NTSC filters, why not have genesis music filtering?

Maybe the circuits are analog/complex in some way?
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>>3032727
I wish there were emulators that gave an accurate representation of the genesis's sound. Let's dispel once and for all this fiction that the Genesis sounds bad. It doesn't sound bad if you know what you're doing.
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>>3032732
>>3032727
Why is it so hard to emulate? I dunno, everything for the genesis is just fine on emulators yet there's the original soundchip.
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>>3032727
It's analog, but not very complex. I figure it's just the emulator developers being either lazy or too inexperienced with audio.
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>>3032782
That is to say, the filters are analog and not very complex (just capacitors). The YM2612 however has not been fully documented by the community IIRC and they haven't gotten any full official documentation on it. In spite of this, they've achieved a pretty damn good replication of the YM2612, but while ignoring the analog filters outside of the IC.
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>>3032313
The tempo and melody of the TFIV score is great, but that hollow metallic ringing and scratchy noise is still there, it still cuts into my ears nonetheless.

I'm actually starting to wonder if people who grew up with a SNES instead of a Genesis and vice versa had their hearing develop differently or something, because I see both consoles having their sound described as tinny by the other side, and then that being denied and turned right back.

Like, would that be possible, that our sense of hearing isn't the same?
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>>3032807
snesents have pussy ears. megalords and man ears. proven fact.
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Actually, its been proven that male born people have a predisposition to liking harsh noise. I'm not saying women can't or don't but they are the biological exception to the rule. My cousin
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>>3031543
I LOVE CHERRY PICKING!
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>>3032809
Yeah, that doesn't at all sound like garbage /v/ rhetoric.

>>3032825
It's not even that I don't like harsh noise in music, I like Sodom and Alice In Chains and stuff, it's that when the Genesis tries to make guitar noises, it sounds WAY too sharp and the tune just lingers for too long, it's like, a guitar should NOT sound like that.
(though on the other hand, when the SNES tries to do guitars it doesn't even sound like any kind of guitar in ANY manner)
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>>3032825
>male born people

excuse me?
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>>3032842
there are lots of pedals that make guitars sound like that. The only sodom you listen to is probably like m16 and agent orange too fucking clean as shit production wise and you will never be in the sign of evil.
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>>3032825
Can someone actually tell me where this copypasta is from?

This has to be one of the few undocumented memes, I swear
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>>3032861
I-I like Napalm In The Morning and The Saw Is The Law ;_;
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>>3032861
Also I really like M16 because it's a nice song and I like the M16A1 rifle
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>>3032880
>>3032875
I like those too its just old sodom was really really harsh it was funny you mentioned sodom because of how raw they used to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeAh1yjVRAA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYB7iLZNWE
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>>3034089
>SonicKAI

eugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_CaU_EreTc
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>Genesis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrtlI3LHFI

>SNES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVP5ElEvzao
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>>3031058
The SNES didn't have FM synthesis, it was sample-based like the Amiga.
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>>3035979
SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMXf4rXI--s

Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R9dqr0Wlvc
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>>3029882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD5x2oPLlVk
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Cherrypicking: The thread
that goes for both sides
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>>3036059
TenGen version sounds alright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCHKaV0C-oQ
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>>3032868
Not every single thing is a meme you little cooksuck

*unzips dick*
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The thing that draws me to the Genesis sound is how fucking good that bass sound is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx60h6mq6O0

Say what you want about the harsh sounds of the leads, but the bass just makes you forget all about it.

I will say for certainty though that the guitar samples sound better on SNES, at least for the MegamanX games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwapIr0wKdk

That does get me thinking though, has anyone thought to try to combine the 2 sounds? Genesis bass + SNES guitar?

I'm sure it would sound neat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FouzuGPM1c

Based Sega is based
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>>3036410
>guitar samples sound better on SNES
Hm, I'm under the impression that the instrument has a constant asthma attack and is chocking on itself, or something. Not exactly great.
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>>3036421

Well to be fair, the best guitar based songs I can find for Genesis aren't exactly the greatest either, despite how much I love these songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9313JkkD6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNusQByYtk
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>>3036436
The same genesis songs get posted every single time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXhq66CFS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiOE8s38wCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5x63s18e4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxdZz7tGhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vVmLfCxp8
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>>3036485

The best guitar tone of that lot is from Thunderforce. Everything else misses the mark.

But the songs themselves are fantastic all around.

>The same genesis songs get posted every single time

Maybe so, but I don't frequent /vr/ as much as I'd like, so I miss these threads quite often.
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>>3036485
>The same genesis songs get posted every single time
Well yea but almost every thread someone posts some gems I havent even heard of before.
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>>3032473
>bretty gud
Yeah, maybe if you've never listened to the original track. I don't even have anything against Genesis music but holy shit this sounds so awful.
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>>3030429

Why would you toss in Crash Bandicoot there, as if he isn't an icon of gaming? Sounds pretty unreasonable.
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Listen to better ones then. OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szh3iDfi9zU&list=PLirSddeMOYZ5tl_D7uIOqudccftwecSQT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8UdlXuBFQ&index=5&list=PL3C841A626D3D31F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzxPJtSTDEw&list=PL3C841A626D3D31F0&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcOuJKQvP_A&index=10&list=PL3C841A626D3D31F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjZJ_tHnSk&index=16&list=PL0D7D875A11C51ECE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0UG6auhzs&list=PL0D7D875A11C51ECE&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8a_Bvj3JcU&index=6&list=PL2553A1267C067EFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCvW2pulO6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtKaYpm9Kk&list=PL5D67ED5C49BEDDA2&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXZKZTVlIxc&index=10&list=PL19280DB6086D100B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJcUS-SLL9M&list=PLirSddeMOYZ4AtvObB_OIhM2lLWD6xEbo&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9iqBW0_TI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADC0G_7CsYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts8dgSUMnME&list=PL40W_mj8t9xqb8nGcIy9EipD5NtU8SggN&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zl29i--r4U&index=11&list=PL40W_mj8t9xqb8nGcIy9EipD5NtU8SggN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYNlgglyu6Y&index=13&list=PLirSddeMOYZ4CHpLL2FNboX3IOAct3vHv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QpGzUdCGw&index=5&list=PL66FDF33954626D8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgplTfq8SM&list=PL66FDF33954626D8E&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzuy7hWakq0&list=PL66FDF33954626D8E&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BRjmTsV4o&list=PLB6D0E74839595A96&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atDWfoglyg4&index=5&list=PLF3EE57659CD96551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gu1LFjGDg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAL-HWNXoF8&list=PLB7298FFFFB14A1B6&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQaa4yYrk8&list=PLF61E2F278B73438D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJsfwHObvw&index=3&list=PL01D23354DB6D47D3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ksTUYcJX6s&list=PL6743702967064603&index=7
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>>3037332
And theses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGO7uxpjbA&list=PLirSddeMOYZ4U9TQWXQHokXVoP_Eek_Ic&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oiQnkaC5Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO6eQatd3Ro&list=PL6E89648837E20805&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_UM8jQUKvI&index=2&list=PL2DF617D7EDEB4537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMDjq_F1k0&index=7&list=PLEAD8D2B6A61E9544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruRk1O-dH-c&index=11&list=PLEAD8D2B6A61E9544
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>>3037332
>>3037351
>shitty emulator recordings
yeah well done faggot you showed him
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>>3037367
Emulators are not a problem, it's just Gens recordings that sound way off.
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>>3037367
>>3037390

Just listen to these if you please
>>3030502
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iknefj-NY3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf15XwOz7XE
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>>3032368
I cannot believe how fucking great that Toy Story track is.
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>>3042583
meh, it does the same trick as the GBA soundchip, only a decade before
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>>3042598
>meh

No need to understate anon.

And if by GBA you mean N64 and the Covox speech thing.
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>>3030664
Holy shit there's a lot of difference, it's sounds actually good here.

It's possible to get this sound on kega fusion or another emu or i have to get an early model genesis?
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>>3032313
>Someone FINALLY GETS IT.......

>>3032368
>>3032337
>>3032415
>>3034089
>>3034101
>>3036059
>>3036436
>>3036485
>>3037332
>>3037351
>>3040119

>Tards FUCKING STLL posting emurecordings!

FUCKING HELL MAN

>>3037412
>>3030502


Why dont you get it? WHY CAN YOU JUST GET IT!?

Ill show you something

Emu recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahW4YvuImdw

REAL GENESIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axs_wuk1EhY (00:22)

I mean yes i am using a shitty GEMS soudntrack as an example, but genesis emulators not only fuck with the frequency of the channels and disables the low pass filter, it fucks with the instrumentation too
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>>3032313
Nah, still sounds like nightmares.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4YT2R7qaI
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>>3043751
see
>>3032825
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>>3043816
I like the OST, the only problem is it lacked the cool samples of the arcade, Hyperstone Heist fixed that.
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>>3043723
We get it, man. Calm down.
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>console war bullshit
>for over 20 year old consoles
It's like I'm really on /v/.
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>>3043723
We know. You told us already. Relax man. You don't need to get all autistic over this.

I own a model 1 Mega Drive so I know what it sounds like. I get your point, but I honestly don't think most Mega Drive music sounds that bad on some emulators. They might not be accurate representations of what it sounds like on a real Genny but they still sound good in my opinion. And even then, there are some official versions of the Mega Drive that have atrocious sound.

>-VA7: Sega changed the sound circuit for this motherboard, and let me tell you, it stinks. Bad. It sounds like an emulator's sound quality was set to the lowest possible setting; it's flat, muffled, distorted, and worst of all, there's an annoying hissing sound in the background (static). Unless you can mod your system with a new audio amp, do yourself a favor and stay clear of this revision.
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?7796-GUIDE-Telling-apart-good-Genesis-1s-and-Genesis-2s-from-bad-ones

Also when you look up a soundtrack on Youtube, 90% of the time all you'll get is emulation. There aren't that many people uploading real soundtrack recordings. I would upload soundtracks if I knew how to record them.
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>>3043723

>tards

I just couldn't be bothered to search for hardware recordings.

Here. Now curb your autism man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzBtP8TQUA
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>>3029537
Not completely true. The VA4 model 2 has better audio quality than all but one of the model 1 revisions.
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>>3031543

>Fuzzy

that's my jam
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>>3031543
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>>3031017
While the game itself is shit everything about it is hype as fuck. That music, cover art, those fighters. It screams awesome.
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>>3047768
It also has fucking D I O

the same devs later made cosmic CARNAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ9qouRxwDM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BazmPJFqhKk
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I thought that SNES has better music than Megadrive but after listening to this thread I realize that SNES has "harsh" "dirty" samples where the Megadrive done properly is nice and smooth.
Could this music be done on original hardware or are there limitations like CPU time or number of channels?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbYDWxRYWBQ
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>>3048775
LegendofRenegade remixes are kinda lazy 2bh.
Either way, listen to this FF4 rendition for the X68k (slightly better soundchip than the MD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HD8th6BzA
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>>3043723
I prefer the emulated sound
>>
SNES vs Genesis audio debate is as old as the consoles themselves. People will still be arguing it in the future.

The PC Engine is known to have worse sound than those two. But how much worse?
Are there any PC Engine chiptunes that can rival the music in this thread?
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>>3048775
ff9 is hot garbage man. but i always see people suck its dick online
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>>3050806
PCE has a really good sounding chip that is unique from the others. I honestly enjoy music from all 3 systems. The console war thing is just for shits and laughs.

Aldynes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5lIKAnYOeM
Magical chase
Soldier blade
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>>3029953
This sounds horrible.
I like a lot of Genesis music, but this just sounds like shit.
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>>3051853
see >>3030664
You will probably still hate it but not as much.
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>>3044086
Some people find it hard to let go. I was talking to my cousin about the SNES and he was trying to start shit over the Genesis VS. SNES shit.
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>>3030502
>Midnight resistance
>Verytex
>Langrisser
>DecapAttack
Yes
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>>3050806
FInal Soldier
Soldier Blade
Super Star Soldier
Legendary Axe 2
Dragon's Curse
Dragon Spirit
Blazing Lazers
Batman
Psycho Chaser
>>
I love the SNES and its games, but I actually think the Genesis is a superior console in a number of ways. Why?

> Cleaner audio output with an actual onboard synthesizer and not a primitive sampler chip

> Greater capacity for raster effects

> More onscreen sprites

> Faster CPU with a more mature, well-documented architecture

> Higher resolution output than the SNES in many games, with 320x224 instead of 256x224 in a lot of cases. The SNES could technically do 512x448, but this resolution was impractical in most cases since it was demanding on the hardware and outputted in interlaced mode on CRT TVs instead of progressive mode.

> Programmers were allowed to write their own sound drivers, instead of being forced to use one sound driver mandated by Nintendo. Again, the SNES sound chip could technically do better than it did, but the driver they forced everyone to use cut the SPC700's potential channels down to 8 from 32, and soaked everything in excessive amounts of reverb. Combined with the lossy sample compression they used, this gave the SNES a very warm, yet muddy sound.

I will concede however that the SNES sound chip was much easier to program, and that its inbuilt graphical effects, wider color palette, and excellent support for expansion chips made for some very pretty games at the time. I love both consoles, and I definitely think they have their own strengths, but it makes me shake my head when people insist that the Genesis was weaker or had bad audio quality. It wasn't weaker at all, it just took more effort to develop for, and western devs couldn't into FM synthesis like the Japanese could.
>>
>>3052557
320x224 was basically the standard for Genesis games, it also could do 320x448 which is a kind of odd resolution, and has the same impractical use of the SNES, but they managed to run Sonic on it.

>but the driver they forced everyone to use cut the SPC700's potential channels down to 8 from 32

Please explain.
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>>3052573
There's a demoscene production on the SNES that uses a custom sound driver to play 32 channels of sound at once, but when you activate the SPC700's reverb mode, it assigns 3/4 of the channels to effects rather than sound and music. Nintendo insisted on everyone using this mode, and that's partly how the SNES got its signature sound.
>>
>>3052573
Reverb itself uses channels. It's not hard to imagine why.
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>>3052582
If, by reverb mode you mean the "echo" Most games don't even use it and yet they're still limited to 8 channels.
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>>3052615
Show me an SNES game that doesn't use reverb. I know reverb when I hear it.
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>>3052619
SMW outside of underground zones? Then again, that 32 channels thing sounds fishy indeed. PS1 had a whole separated buffer for reverb which mixed the channels accordingly and you could disable it at leisure, yet it still only had 24 hardware channels. A chip much more advanced than the one SNES uses.
>>
Always thought the Mega Drive had more punch than the SNES. The SNES always sounds washed out. So a really blaring rock guitar solo will sound like a gentle xylophone.
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The best thing about Super Nintendo is you can get the same sound experience anywhere.
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>>3031543
10/10 good troll

SNES nearly always sounds like this shit

WOHHHH WAH WAH WOHHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpG59je2Odk

Genesis sounds like a bunch of shitty instruments too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bgvtMFD-M&index=10&list=PL52xa-M2bIfTKj3RTw8xo8NBlx7jgIuG4
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>>3053190
>american example vs japanese
ayy lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kx2dJrSrAM
>>
>>3030280
what album is this?
>>
>>3044246
>step 1: get http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Dubbing-Android-Smartphone-Players/dp/B0047741BG/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
>step 2: plug one end into your Genesis' headphone jack
>step 3: plug the other end into your microphone jack (line in might be an option)
>step 4: open sound recorder in windows
>step 5: go to the options menu in the game you want to record
>step 6: use the music test function to select the track you want to record
>step 7: hit record on sound recorder and hit play button on the Genesis
congrats you just recorded music from the Genesis
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>>3046350
is it the non-TMSS rev that has the best model 1 audio?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hqGlZQQ1gQ
I don't like the intro but goddamn that's a nice song
>>
Some of the Neo Geo's last games just used their ROM size to stream large .wav files.(although it was limited to mono)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udc701ZyM3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udc701ZyM3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzkwMMhP7nA
>>
Only women don't like the sound of the Genesis sound chip. It's been scientifically proven that the female brain can't understand FM Synthesis as well as we do.
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>>3054841
Most TMSS model 1s have the same circuitry as the early model 2s, so non-TMSS is definitely recommended, but I think he was talking about the first batch of model 1s with the softer low-pass filtering but higher distortion. But I still think the strong low-pass is still better than whatever rev without the ladder effect.
>>
>>3030502
>Full Soundtrack

Nigga ain't nobody got time for that
>>
>>3054879
This.
You would have to be total lily livered, yellow shirt wearin' no good to NOT enjoy this kind of manly twang!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik
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>>3030786
Wow, that is good actually. I liked the Megadrive sound when it was done well. It's easier to screw up FM than PCM samples I guess.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfShCLcipk
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>>3054839
I have one of those cables. Just tested it. I can't believe it actually worked. Thanks.
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>>3055000
You never thought to use a jack from headphone port to soundcard?

Anyway, before a record it's always best to do a level check. Have the Genesis volume slider up as far as possible without clipping as it comes into the soundcard (for less noise).

Then adjust the line/mic in volume on the computer. Be sure that the very loudest sound you'll be hearing comes up to about 95% of the full range. Probably easier to do a test recording for all this, then look at the waveform.
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>>3054885
so it's just preference for whatever non-TMSS model 1 sound you want
>>
>Arguing over which system had better music
They both did. It depends on the composer and how they used the tools they had at hand.

>>3030557
>even Miyamoto shat on the best game of the library
Miyamoto didn't shit on Kirby Super Star, anon.
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>>3054885
>>3055429
TMSS has nothing to do with the sound. People only prefer it because it boots straight to the game instead of having the license screen at the start.

I've owned several model 1s. As long as your outputs look like this (even if it's TMSS or doesn't have the HD Graphics lettering), you've got a good Genesis.

The "bad" model 1s have the outputs shifted over toward the middle a bit. Those are the ones that are more similar to the Model 2.
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>>3054841
Not exactly. There are TMSS models with good audio. But there's also ones with bad audio. Here's an in depth explanation of what to look for
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?7796-GUIDE-Telling-apart-good-Genesis-1s-and-Genesis-2s-from-bad-ones
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>>3030730

I dunno, I can't go back to the original.
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>>3029882
more game soundtracks need to be released on vinyl
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>>3059351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dAzHz9NXsY
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>>3029882
>not SoR 2
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>>3050806
>The PC Engine is known to have worse sound than those two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmomU06APw4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmTbpX6FE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMERKTMRWMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOtFb3sXkTs
Nah PC engine music is pretty impressive I haven't found a bad PC Engine ost so far
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>>3060001
lewd
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>>3060013
Shit I forgot I was on a blue board.

I actually really like the Genesis soundcard, it kind of reminds me of old pc98 games
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>>3029529
I listen to vgm ost's while pounding out busy work. The two OST I listen to the most are Langrisser and Lethal Enforcers 2... not objectively a great Genesis OST, but I can't stop listening to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wSrGfmkwO0
>>
pop in Bastard!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ocZMLxlVF4
your Snes suddenly genesisd
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>>3061250
doesn't sound like FM 2bh, still decent tho
>>
>>3032842
Uniracers? it sounds like a fucking guitar what are you smoking?
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>>3029882
Man Genesis was pretty rocking. You could have a rave at your house with its sound card.
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>>3029882
Of course it wouldn't sound like that video you linked.
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>>3029973
No. Thats PC engine
>>
>>3059382
fantasy zone on PCE has horrible graphics and music
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>>3031543

Finally we have reached the truth.

I'm tired of these SNES "INFO WARS" posters, who have corkboards with tape connecting images of Tom Kalinske and Osama Bin Laden in their basements/rooms, always trying to make noise about their shitty JRPG machine.
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>>3053190
I actually like that Aladdin song.
>>
>>3030664
this is awesome
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>>3029529
There's too much treble. It's abrasive for people with sensitive ears. Only a few games like Shining Force II actually have some variation with how the music is presented.
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>>3063598
>I actually like that Aladdin song.

You aren't alone. Pretty much all the tunes in the Aladdin game were great, including all the Tallarico originals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po7sx-zpUbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi1tI6g2Naw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMGtYxpqAog
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>>3055604
The reference model for sound should always be the VA0 Model 1. Anything later is a cost-reduced version.

Model 1 VA1 might be acceptable because VA0s had a last-second snafu in the main oscillator, if VA1 only fixed that then it is acceptable.
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