Retro FPS games that aren't Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein

Blood

Blood.

Blake Stone

Chasm

Redneck Rampage

CyberMage

>>2973847
Medal of Honor and Underground

Perfect Dark and Goldeneye

>>2973847

Blood, Unreal Tournament.

Shogo

POWER SLAVE

Delta Force 1 / 2, etc.

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>>2974397
Shogo Mobile Armor Division. I played the shareware version on a demo disk when I was a kid but I never played the full version. :(

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>>2974408
I also played the Shareware version of Delta Force 1 when I was a kid but I never played the full version.

Ken's Labyrinth. By the guy who made the Build engine(Duke3D). It's like Wolf3D, but has a lot more going on, and much more difficulty. I'm surprised no one ever mentions it or even remembers it.

>>2974418
I went through it and it's one of the most autistic games I've ever played, in a sort of weird, but rewarding way.

The OST is also great, has kind of a Japanese feel to it which I really like but we know for sure it's western so I guess Ken took inspiration from the right places, at least to my likings.

>>2974435
>it's one of the most autistic games I've ever played
I don't understand?

>>2974445
Forget what I said, it's good.

Blood

Blood.

Realms of the Haunting
Jedi Knight
Mysteries of the Sith

>>2973847
Blood

Doom 2, Quake 3 Arena

>>2973847
the star wars universe begins and ends here for me.

fuck all the movies. this is the one good thing to come from the franchise

Blood

>>2974514
I said no Doom or Quake.

>>2974550
So many people are saying Blood.

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Hexxen, Shadow Warrior.

SiN.

I enjoyed Dark Forces too.

Going a completely different direction than the rest of you, but how about CosmoTank, Faceball 2000, and X?

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Chex Quest!

>>2974647
Doom: Cereal Killer Edition

>>2973847
Shadow Warrior

>>2974412
I was thinking about hosting this MP... But it didn't look that fun in videos so I didn't.

>>2973847
Unreal, Chasm: The Rift, PO'ed, Powerslave (PC and PSX/Saturn versions are different), Hexen 1/2, Heretic 1/2, SoF 1/2, Disruptor,

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>>2974418
I remember Ken's Labyrinth. I used to have the "Welcome to Ken's Labyrinth!" voice clip as my Windows startup sound.

I enjoyed playing Ken back in the day, and it has some creative stuff, but man, it can also be super annoying. It's definitely much more difficult than Wolf, no doubt about it, but it's the game that pops into my head when people complain about "maze-like" old-school maps being too confusing (despite being barely maze-like at all).

Ken's Labyrinth, on the other hand, has legit mazes, like the kind that are hard enough to solve when you're looking at them top-down and using a pen and paper. Pic related, just look at those later levels.

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>>2974647

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Strife

Blood.

>>2974994

Why does Strife look like such roasted dogshit next to Hexen when both run on the same engine?

BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD

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>>2974538
what is good about it? I liked a lot of the modern star wars games like battlefront 2. Is it just a canon thing? Or actually good gameplay?

>>2974402
The console versions are fantastic.

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Heretic
Hexen
Shadow Warrior
Blood
Powerslave
Strife

blood
doom
half life
quake
crysis
contra

Why hasn't anyone mentioned turok?

Rise of the Triad nigga

Also one of the harder games

Blood

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blad

>>2975473
>Retro FPS games that aren't Doom, Quake
>doom
>quake
Good job.
>contra
Nice FPS game right there
>crysis
Not retro, so you should have also listed the other 700 post-99 FPS games.

>>2975586
lol i trol u

you've never tried to list 4 things that aren't jackie chan?

Check out Redline. I remember it being pretty okay

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Thief: The Dark Project

I'm curious if there are any mod things for this game, like custom levels or items...

Mech Warrior - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7w88yQVlVY
Heavy Gear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZvaXQciGq0
Zone of Artifical Resources - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQP9cm5Us8k

>>2975803

>fps

>>2975894
it's first-person and you shoot arrows?

>>2975926

Is the goal of the game to shoot people?

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Realms of the Haunting

>>2975894
>>2975926
>>2975932
https://youtu.be/0nope2aevJU?t=3m33s
Thief has an emphasis on stealth but it does qualify as a first person and shooter in that you shoot things with a bow to progress through the levels.

Another first person shooter I like which has a bow in it is Turok, which is a lot more like doom or quake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDu0CTSR8Dw

>>2975987

>Thief has an emphasis on stealth but it does qualify as a first person and shooter in that you shoot things with a bow to progress through the levels.

"Duke Nukem 3D has an emphasis on shooting but it does qualify as a platformer in that you jump across platforms to progress through the levels"

>>2973847
Is there such a thing?

>>2976001
Way to shitpost

>>2976002
Well if you look through this thread then yes.

>>2975894
first-person sneaker, duh.

Don't forget about Hacx!

>>2975645
Mario
Sonic
Bubsy
Jackie chan

fuck you got me

>>2976315
Warrio
Dr. Robotnik
Neo Cortex
John Cena

>>2974416
At the time this game was amazing.
The incredibly oversized maps made multiplayer heartracing.

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Nitemare 3D
or Hugo's House of Horror's 3D as my demo disc named it

>>2974738
I remember enjoying the Robot combat in multiplayer because of the different weapons and speeds.

>>2976620
what kind of developer creates that avatar on the bottom left and think "yea, that looks fucking great. Well done everybody"

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Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels

Well worth getting 4DO and a rom to get this going (I think the PC version is good too though)

Its not 100% fps, there is a RTS element to it and if you play it like its just another FPS you will die.

Awesome music/sound design, scary as fuck, can get pretty gory with body parts and blood filling up a whole room ( I recall as a kid just holding off one area with my terminators and just filling the room with gibs and blood), graphics are pretty good, can get scary as fuck. Probably my favorite game that came out on the 3DO

>>2974026
didnt know anyone else played that game. It used to make my pc crash so hard

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>>2976636
the face slowly degrades to a skull depending on your health, though I'm not sure if you'll think the 100% looks any better

>>2973916
>>2974416
>>2975803

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Obligatory marathon post

>>2976649
Nightmare 3D. Holy Shit.

I played the shareware game a lot. never got too far, it was a buggy POS for sure.

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Disruptor

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im sure everybody thought of the other SW FPS besides OP pic but

Dark Forces Jedi Knight 2
there's still a remnant active community for multiplay
http://www.jkdf2.net/

ALSO
Outlaws (revolver second fire, i dont need anything else)
multiplayer was hella fun too.
>>2974538
yeah fuck the movies, the SW universe has a lot of charm and spawned several great games, retro and modern (in case you were implying that it died with DF1 for you)
start with dark forces 2

fuck im trying to remember one, not even sure if /vr/ but around 1999/2000

it was for PC, you had leg movement, aim movement, and head move, all 3 separate, kinda like red dead revolver with more movements actually

its a futuristic, probably dystopian theme,
you had some tech armor that could extrude wings to hover a little over the battle field, and im not sure if the enemies were non-human but probably too.

name, i vaguely recalled it resembled OUTLIVE OUTLAST OUTCAST, but neither names finds me an old FPS (its not outlaws, neither 2013's outlast, neither retro RTS Outline)

>>2977265
>i dont need anything else
what about the rifle for long range.

also the primary fire from the revolver is much more accurate. I'm all about 1 shotting niggas with the revovler at point blank range.

based as fuck game.

>>2974608
Wasn't SiN the first FPS which allowed area-specific damage?

Rise of the Triad & TekWar were interesting too... Strife is my favourite by far thanks to an actual plot, dialogue & atmosphere

I'M THE KEYMASTER

>>2973847
I liked Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II more.
Probably in my top 10 favourite video games of all time.

>>2977376
Action Quake did it too, but it still used a bounding box, I recall sin rendering hits far more intricately.

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>>2977376

Goldeneye had area-specific damage first. Headshots caused more damage than body shots

>>2977468
You could disarm by shooting hands and stun by shooting legs.

>>2977469
pretty good considering the game was originally going to be an "on rails" shooter like virtua cop

>>2974574
And he gave you Doom 2 and Quake 3. Learn to read.

>>2977541
>e
What I meant was nothing Doom or Quake related. This is a thread for discussing lesser known FPS games.

>>2975095
Nigger play Powerslave EX, it's a PC port of the old console version. Fucking great game.

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i managed to find this game >>2977297

OUTWARS
the FPS/3PS equivalent of descent, in movement freedom, quite interesting.

>>2977469
you mean disarm AI or in stipscreen player vs player too?

though i was more fan of 007 TWINE, and its 4 player slipt and varied map styles

>>2973847
Heretic by ID Software.

Got my original diskettes somewhere for the PC version.

>>2975987
Just like next to every Metal Gear game ever...

>I'm seeing a recurring theme here

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>mfw no Super 3D Noah's Ark

>>2975014
Art style i suppose

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>>2973847

>>2978782
I thought that was a Doom mod.

>>2978890
It's a modified version of Wolfenstein 3D for SNES where you get to be Noah (from Noah's Ark) and beat the shit out of animals with a slingshot.

>could've called it Bart simulator 1994 if they wanted

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is tomb raider an FPS/3PS ?

>>2978763
>my original diskettes
hexen and/or heretic got modern ports/revamps, i think even an official re-release

>>2974416
Good memories doing 1 on 1 sniper fights with my mate on those monstrous maps.
One computer always gave the advantage at spotting the enemy because the resolution was so low on it.

Blood was pretty good

>>2973847
Should I play Shadow Warrior original or the 2013 version?

>>2979432
both

Unreal

Terminator: Future Shock

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Not retro so I'll get screamed at, but Giants: Citizen Kabuto is cool as fuck.

Also Realms of the Haunting here which is legally retro, and a fine game to boot. The sound quality is fucking amazing in this.

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Continuing with the mouse cursor fps them, here's Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri. A kind of tactical fps/mecha game that was way before it's time in some aspects and way behind in others.

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>>2973847
H.U.R.L.

Anyone else ever play this?

>>2975014
Strife was beautiful, fuck you.

>>2976305
Let's forget about Hacx

>>2978763
Heretic was made by Raven
They licensed the Doom engine from ID

>>2979507
I almost never see anyone talk about this game.
Is it on GOG yet? I haven played it since the 90s

>>2979297
>is tomb raider an FPS/3PS ?
3D cinematic platformer.

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>>2979516
>the sound quality is fucking amazing in this
The production quality for Realms is awesome across the board. Combat is pretty ropey (enemies are really dumb) and puzzles range from average to "lol, here's another maze", but they did such a good job with the atmosphere that I love playing it.

Love the look of the hand-drawn maps and readables, too.

>>2974738
Man, Shogo is a fucking BLAST.

Really pretty unique in that you can get out of your mech and fight on foot.

You really should try it sometime anon.

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>>2982045
The only thing I don't really like is the actual engine. The quality of the textures and the shadows/lights baked into them is kind of offset by the bizzarre flickering, jagged banding all over the place and general weirdness of the renderer. Even the 3 year older System Shock engine feels better.

Sprites from 1995, sounds and textures from early 2000's, running on tech from ~1994 in a game released in 1997 is what it all feels like to me.

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>>2975803

Catacombs 3D

Alien: Trilogy and Alien: Resurrection on the PS1

>>2980131
Yup, and I thought it was scarier than Doom back in the day. The expressions of those animals still hunt me...

>>2976041

Fair point, innit?

>>2986309
I know, right!? That shit was so P.C. and happy that it was disturbing. Also, the fuck is with the guy playing? Soap was OP, water balloons and deodorant was bullshit.

>>2986312
Great atmosphere and creature design. I just couldn't get anywhere in it. I mean that. I never got out of the first level. I couldn't find the switch for opening a door.

>>2979527
I love this game. Pretty much the only game I've played that properly conveys a feeling similar to Starship Troopers (the book) in how you play.

>>2982323
I wish there was a pic like this for Dark Forces (or even JK) maps.

>>2987218
hum, i played jk when it was already somewhat old, lil before jedi outcast release, and damn, even with many communities still active around jk1, i dont recall anything of the sort, u know why, thre was just too many maps, and too many good ones, even single player levels, every other guy always have their small list of best lvls, but theres no unanimous levesl that appear on everybody's list.

best thing is probably going on massassi temple and jkhub, list by score or downloads, check all photos for each map, pretty much download a few dozen, and cycle thru them while sparing with friends, everybody exploring the maps together you quick know if its boring one and move on, just make the winning score very low, so one can kill everyone and load the next map

Depth Dwellers
Operation Bodycount
Fortress of Dr. Radiaki
Witchaven I and II
Legend of the Seven Paladins

>>2974015
>Chasm
Mah nigga. I even played it online with anon a couple of years ago.

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Blood
Hexen
Shadow Warrior
Rise Of The Triad
Blake Stone
Strife
Tekwar

If you haven't played these (and Dark Forces), you achieve eternal pleb status

>>2987671
is tekwar any good?

>>2979432

Theyre completely dissimilar games but both are ok. Original Shadow Warrior is motherfuck hard and racist as fuck in CHING CHONG NIP NONG NONG style, but once you get the hang of it it is quite enjoyable. The trick to the game is that your light armaments are basically shit garbage that wont kill enemies fast enough to save you in a real fight, they are strictly for cleaning up trash. So the start is rough. Once you get ammo for the nade launcher and rocket launcher, the game really starts to shine.

new Shadow Warrior is a lot less racist and also a lot less hard, but not really the same sort of game at all. instead of being lightning fast and all about explosives, it's mid-paced and all about the sword.

Does anyone actually enjoy Mysteries of the Sith? On top of pulling the ol' Raiden maneuver on you, even when you play as Kyle he's weak as shit compared to the end of JK, just to make the game a bit harder. Instead of FMV, or even sprite cutscenes like DF, it has astonishingly fuck ugly early 3d cutscenes. It ditches the regular boss fights which were one of the most enjoyable things in JK and started the series trend of just throwing a shitton of boring lightsaber mooks at you in lieu of creating opponents that are actually fun to fight. Level design sucks and hardly ever feels Star-Warsy, compared to JK it's just a bunch of boxy rooms with fuck all in them. The force leveling system is even weaker than in JK, hope you didn't want to use any useful attack spells because you're gonna need healing. A lot. Did I mention the game is fuck hard? The last three levels of this game are far and away more difficult than anything else in the franchise. The real mystery is how they thought anybody could beat Dark Mara on the hardest difficulty without glitching her AI, and she's not even the final boss of the game.

In addition, those are the only three levels in the game that are actually relevant to the Sith in any way shape or form. The plot is pretty much nonexistent and schizophrenic as shit with Kyle suddenly fucking off to Dromund Kaas for no earthly reason and Mara basically being left to fuck around doing fetch quests for assholes for half the game that even she complains about having to do. The guys who made Outlaws made this?

>>2987823
>The trick to the game is that your light armaments are basically shit garbage that wont kill enemies fast enough to save you in a real fight, they are strictly for cleaning up trash. So the start is rough.
Nigga did you forget about the sword? It kills most basic enemies in a slash or two and is like a million times better than all the basic guns put together.

>abloobloo racism
Come on, it's duke3d in the far east. Nothing more or less.

>>2987823

>racist as fuck in CHING CHONG NIP NONG NONG style

If Shadow Warrior is racist, so is Duke Nukem.

>>2988275

I've always thought that people who complain about racism in Shadow Warrior were the worst kind newthink assholes.

>>2988289

Duke is white, therefore under the new cancerous thought of our time he cannot be subject to racism. Instead he must be labeled a sexist pig, because merriment is forbidden and no fun is allowed.

>>2973847
No One Lives Forever

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Fuck you I liked it.

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How about this little gem

>>2987848
>Dark M...
oh shit spoiler alert anon
unless thats not M.J. (..not asking, dont tell)

i recall obtaining MotS after finishing jk, other than some slightly prettier FX here and there, the blocky 3d cutsneces are a signal they just put together an expansion in a hurry just to shell out another game, dont remember why i didnt play it thru, your review has prompted me to try again, thanks

hum, i remember the multiplayer mots had something different too..

btw, what's even Raiden Maneuver?

>>2988319
That shit was scary

>>2988615

the game is old enough to post on 4chan, spoiler warnings dont apply imo

>dont remember why i didnt play it thru

probably got stuck on level 4, theres a bullshit hard timed escape sequence at the end

>Raiden Maneuver

At the start of Metal Gear Solid 2 you play as Snake, who is bad ass and also the protagonist of the first game. Then a few levels in they pull a switcheroo on you and you play as some bitch ass called Raiden for the rest of the game. It kind of works in MGS2 because the whole game is about fucking with the player's expectations, doesn't work in MotS because MotS isn't about anything whatsoever.

To be fair the FMV cutscenes were probably really expensive to make, some of the CG in them has even held up alright, and I can understand why that wasn't an option for an expansion pack. I wouldn't mind the ugly ass cutscenes so much if not for the fact that they are all completely pointless because nothing in the plot has anything to do with anything else, everything they convey could have been accomplished more elegantly with mission objective splash screens a la DF.

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>>2987592
I remember playing a shareware version of Operation Bodycount on a demo disk when I was a kid.

>>2977754
Can't find a download for it.

>>2990986
It got taken down because the creator was hit with a cease-and-desist. By a company he'd previously worked for that bought the IP fully aware that there was a nearly finished port in the making made by a person they know, so now it'll be commercially released soon enough and with greater authenticity due to the dev(s) having source code access. The exact same thing happened with the same people (and actually the same new engine) for the recent Turok re-release.

There are still some copies of the Powerslave Ex beta floating around though.

i bet OP never heard of counter-strike xdxd the game that put the S on Shitty realistic shooters

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Damage Inc!


I think i ran on the Marathon game engine

>>2992312
>I think i ran on the Marathon game engine
Sure you did. How did you get past the captcha?

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>>2987728
It's not *good*, but it's different. Like if Duke Nukem had a hub-based mission selection using metro trains;

It had some ideas ahead of its time (civilians, civvie police), but the problem is that the police would only respond if *you* started shooting. And you'd get in trouble for blasting them back.

On the plus side, fat William Shatner

>>2976649
>>2977235

That's because it was meant to be the sequel to the Hugo's House of Horrors trilogy and they completely changed format and target audience. They had no idea what they were doing and weren't very good at it.

Hard game though. I had a lot of fun with it!

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Did anyone else every play this magnificent masterpiece? It had mechanics that modern FPS are still trying to emulate! And that weapon set, holy shit. A gun that can create blackholes? Also, secondary fire options well before Perfect Dark came around.

>>2993241
I played it several years back. The only interesting touch I can remember were those magnetic boots which allowed walking on the outer hull of a ship, effectively inverting walls/ceilings. Only a few levels featured that though, in a mostly mediocre game.

>>2973847
Marathon
>>2977196
Thought the same

>>2993241

Secondary fire was definitely older than Honor Guard. Marathon had it. Heretic too, kind of. DF had it (albeit only on two weapons that I can recall), Jedi Knight had it on a couple more. Also, and presumably this is where Honor Guard devs got the idea, Unreal. I do like Honor Guard but there's nothing great about it, it most comes off like a Trek themed TC of Unreal which is basically exactly what it is. I enjoy it because I'm a huge Trek nerd and the devs definitely put some work into the look & feel, not because it's really good game. Better than Elite Farce though

>>2993561
I played a lot of Heretic and don't remember any secondary fire, just the upgraded fire from the tome of power. Never played Marathon and I only had the demo of Dark Forces unfortunately. This was my first exposure to it.

>>2993325
Those boots were awesome and the multiplayer was amazing. The campaign was long but not fantastic. It was all about the multiplayer. The boots and the tricorder were both extremely useful. I also used to play the space levels, get a suit, get outside, turn off the boots and snipe people from MILES away from the station. Levels with both gravity and zero-G were fantastic.

>>2993952
I think he's talking about the Tomes of Power in Heretic, that change the weapons' firing mode

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I like Perfect Dark.

>>2992471
mirrored sprite etirps derorrim

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Requiem: Avenging Angel and Starsiege: Tribes were on of my favorite games of the late 90s.

>>2988319
Oh shit I remember playing a demo of this. Never managed to figure out what you were supposed to do after you entered the base or camp or something.

Pathways Into Darkness
Prime Target
Sensory Overload

is that all you got /vr/gins ?

>>2991083
Found one.

PS1
PO'ed
007 World is not Enough
Alien Trilogy
Alien Resurrection
Powerslave (exhumed)
Hexen
South Park
Space Hulk
Codename Tenka
Delta Force: Urban Warfare
Disruptor
Medal of Honor

PS1 (first person view...)
Shadow Master
Forsaken
Colony Wars
Shadow Tower
King's Field
Descent
Star winder
Mech Warrior 2
Crazy Ivan

>>2994964
Perfect Dark is a phenomenal game. It's impressive how shit the sequel was and how they completely screwed up the XBLA port.

>>3002906
>Alien Trilogy
which games are you considering in that trilogy? there have been a few alien game series

anyways how could i forget Alien vs Predator 1,2
specifically the ones for PC around 2000 (the first is retro)

>>3003301
It's not a game trilogy, it's a game called "Alien Trilogy".

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>>2997581

>Pathways Into Darkness

Love and hate this one. Feels way ahead of its time desu, the next sort of attempt to reconcile adventure gaming with FPS wouldn't be made till...probably Trespasser but in a completely different way...and the FPS/RPG as we know it was still a decade away. Its style of storytelling is also quite cool and has aged a lot better than that of Marathon series, for example. Suffers from being motherfucking slow as balls and having a time limit. I'd love to see someone take the concept on today with a proper 3D engine and less bland "ye find yeself in yon labyrinth" tedious ass dungeon. At least in Wolfenstein you could move through the boring mazes as a decent clip.

>>3003424
And it was terrifying.

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>>3007102
The time limit was quite merciful, I believe. On my first play I had 30 game hours left in the end. It was just contributing to the overall immersion, i.e. "something is going on while you wander the dungeons!".

>>3007951

It depends how much you rest, really. The limit counts down real time while you play, but at like 8x real time while you rest. Since resting is the only way to regain health for pretty much the entire first third of the game and even once you do start to get healing potions the difficulty ramps up big time with Oozes and Nightmares, it's possible to fritter away loads of time sleeping if you suck at dodging.

I do kind of like the time limit in theory, it's the kind of atmospheric touch that gets focus-grouped right out of modern games for the sake of bad players. My problem with it is more the message it sends to the player, combined with how god damn slow the dude moves, is "you need to hurry", when really hurrying is just likely to get you into fights you can't win without taking lots of damage, and the game rewards a much more methodical playstyle.

>>2992471
It's buggy as fuck and damn near unplayable.

>>2973847
doom 2
unreal