ITT: Games with horrible level design >randomly place keys

>>2867383
>randomly place keys everywhere
>infinite backtracking ensues
Thankfully new version tidies up level design to fix this.
>infinitely spawning enemies to harass the player and waste ammo
Pretty sure the respawning isn't infinite.

>>2867383
all of these things are actually bonuses

sage for not retro

>>2867632
W0t? Did you even play the game? If you miss a single key you get stuck.

>>2867470
>Pretty sure the respawning isn't infinite.

Not OP but are you sure? I actually chose a spot and camped for a while to see how many times I'd have to kill the dude until he stopped respawning.

Maybe it's just my memory but I could use some 110% sure confirmation. This is important.

>>2867638
it's infinite but usually just a single enemy every 20 minutes so it's hardly a big deal

It's true though, as much as "new" gamers complain about corridor shooter level design the maps in turok 1 and 2 are absolutely atrocious, they even made Turok 3 completely linear to make up for this.

>>2867643
Ok then, thx man.

>>2867383
I thought /vr/ was supposed to be /v/ without the shitposting?

>>2867650
I believe the catacombs level was the biggest offender, in Turok 1.

>>2867764
Used to be. That all changed about a year ago though.

>>2867383
play Seeds of Evil

Seeds of Evil has way, way more backtracking than Dinosaur Hunter. So much so that I wouldn''t even think Dinosaur Hunter has backtracking. If you're thorough enough you get everything on the first run-through of each level in Turok 1, but in Turok 2 you have to get shit and go back to an earlier point in the game to unlock ways into new areas and stuff like that, which was super annoying.

nothing in this game compares to the bullshit of turok 2

Backtracking is only bad if the game never gives you any hints on whats the next thing you're supposed to do (either through level design, or through story text), making it a wild goose chase that could take hours. Or has you retread through large amounts of empty sections, making for an uneventful but lengthy trek to the next objective.

Otherwise, I feel backtracking is an overhated feature in games.

>>2867961
>but in Turok 2 you have to get shit and go back to an earlier point in the game to unlock ways into new areas and stuff like that, which was super annoying.

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I order the internet to mod a cerebral bore into Turok 1 because im not playing 2, thx for the advice pham

>>2867383
The Catacombs and The Ruins were top level design for the time.

Hell I wish the guy who designed those two levels had made the whole 8 stages.

>>2867383
>having ammo problems in turok ever
I'm always amazed by just how shitty vr is at video games

>>2867961
Not a fan of Metroids huh?

>>2869912
Difference is that it's super fast to get around in Metroid, and it's a 2d plane. In Turok 2, compared to the size of the each massive level the player moves pretty slowly and there's a lot of bullshit you have to go through.

>>2869845
Only time I ever had ammo issues was in the second last level of Turok 1 (The Lost Land), because the triceratops riders which fucking eat all of your ammo and take forever to kill. And also the heavy cyborg dudes in the last level.

At that point in the game it starts throwing explosive shotgun shells at you all over the place, though, so it's not that bad.

>>2869985
my only complaint is the low ammo count for each weapon, and no backpack power up.

>>2869828
Ancient City is the best level in the entire Turok franchise.

>>2870251
YOU ARE DERANGED.