"VGC niche" HAHAHA And you know damn well it wouldn't

>>33470219
Immunity to psychic type for oe dongoose

snap snap snap

>ITT I don't care about competitive viability except for the sake of starter wars

>>33470251
Are you retarded? Are you an idiot? Are you a moron? OP never mentioned any other pokemon except for Arcanine, and you'd have to be feeble minded to think that Arcanine is a starter pokemon.

>>33470219
all the starters are shit, primarina is in UU only because of its fairy typing. If it were anything else it would be with incineroar in NU

>>33470219
To be the starter pokemon of the Alola region. People who want it to be viable are fucking morons.

>>33470265
/thread.
Now can stop people shut up about Primarina being in UU? It relies on fake viability to be UU.

>>33470256
>it's totally not a starter war I swear!

>>33470219
>but trick room

If you want fake out offense hariyama is way better. If you want a hard hitting fire type with almost the same STAB coverage Marowak is better. If you want intimidate, Mawile is better. If you want something that has fake out and intimidate, Scafty and Hitmontop have far more utility, and incineroar doesn't hit hard enough to justify its use over them.

The one, ONE practical use I see for Incineroar is being an intimidate user that hard counters Bisharp, unless it opts for low kick of course.

>>33470219
>the general problem with 3D models is the shitty animations/poses
>Incineroar is one of the few pokemon with actually really good animations
>3d model looks like a shitty inflated balloon

>>33470273
Wait until it gets Pixilate Boomburst in USUM.

>>33470274
Show me where OP mentioned Decidueye or Primarina then.

>>33470251
>>33470265
>>33470273
>>33470274
retards who get stuck on starterwars whenever a single starter is mentioned

>>33470219
>>33470243
>>33470280
Intelligent individuals who want to have an actual thread discussing competitive viability

>>33470321
>discussing competitive viability
>on /vp/
I still remember how everyone on /vp/ used to say Tapu Koko is going to be the worst Tapu in the VGC meta, because it loses the terrain war.

>>33470265
>>33470273
Why did you bring up Primarina at all?

>>33470219
It has a niche with Tapu Fini. Almost definitely just because Infiniroar is punny as fuck.

>>33470243
Except everything relevant that learns Psychic fangs is part water type. Barafags just can't win.
>>33470265
>this pokemon is only good because of an essential part of its design! if you ignore that it's shit!
Landorus would be a shitmon if all of its stats were half of what they were, your point?

>>33470219
Except Intimidate + Fake Out would give it niche indeed

>>33471450
No it wouldn't. Stop living in your self-contained fantasy world and face reality.

>>33471450
It has those

>>33471489
But it does, why would that make you mad?

>>33471497
No it wouldn't. Stop being delusional.

>>33470219
It gets access to fake out which could give it some importance not as much as Intimidate will tho

>>33471502
Why are you saying wouldn't? I said does. Why does that make you mad? Intimidate + Fake Out makes a nice niche with mons like Fini

>>33471510
Arcanine does that better.

>>33470219
>both in terms of viability and design
Arcanine is one of my favorites in design but I can't see how this is objectively worse?

>>33470219
Do you know what niche means?

>>33470280
>if you want all these things Incineroar provides in a single package
I'm hoping your post is ironic.

>>33471513
Not in every possible case, that's why it's called "Niche" and not "Arcanine replacement"

How do these shit threads keep attracting shitty, but serious replies?

>>33471513
>Arcanine does Intimidate + Fake Out better

>>33471514
Come on. I don't even hate it as much as others do but you cannot tell me that Incineroar is actually better than one of the best, most popular and majestic Pokemon of all time.
>>33471522
But it isn't the best in any of it, thus absolute shite.
>>33471528
The niche it has sucks though, hence the drop in usage.

>>33471532
"Arcanine is better" is the default reply, falseflaggers don't need to use their brain to hook some (you)s.

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>>33471545
>It doesn't have a niche!
>W-well yea, those ones, b-but they suck!
Goalposts, meet your new roommate
This retard

>>33471545
>it isn't the best in any of it
Arcanine isn't the best at anything either, it's just a good all-rounder.
>the niche it has sucks though, hence the drop in usage
It doesn't have Intimidate yet you fucking mongoloid. You're judging usage for something that isn't even out.

>>33471545
>is actually better than one of the best, most popular and majestic Pokemon of all time.
I couldn't because it's not my opinion but it still doesn't make Arcanine, objectively, better.

Something isn't shit because I don't personally like it.

>>33471529
Vgc

>>33471554
Yeah when the niches suck they are non existant. It's simple.
>>33471561
Arcanine is objectively better though.
Also
>STILL believing the intimidate meme
Man you truly are delusional.

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>>33470219
tfw Lucario is way better than any of the starters

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>>33471581
So you admit that both the claim it doesn't have a niche and that "It wouldn't be any better with intimidate" (When it doesn't have it yet) were both objectively wrong and retarded things to say. Why did you post then?

>muh intimidate
Friendly reminder that literally EVERYONE who thinks that Intimidate will make Incineshit more viable are 100% retards.

>>33471588
Venusaur is uber material

>>33471595
>More viable
There you go saying stupid shit again. It literally could not make it less viable. Even if it's insignificant the only POSSIBLE result is it becoming more viable

>>33471545
>Arcanine
>majestic
It looks like a fat idiot dog. Cute? Sure. Hardly majestic though.

>>33471595
The Ministry of Shitposting is honored to grant you ONE (1) free reply for your valiant attempts at baiting.

Most people think incineroar is shit. Just accept it

I hate the Litten line but Intimidate, Fake out, U-Turn, and immunity to psychic will give it a niche in VGC. Arcanine doesn't out class it as Arcanine only really has higher speed but far less attack and overall bulk. Trick room is a threat these days and another fake out user that isn't weak to fairy is good.

>>33472000
Could you be more ignorant? Incineroar will be worthless trash in VGC, with or without Intimidate.

>>33472002
but he is right dumb starter cuck

>>33472002
If Arcanine can be used decently then so can Incineroar. It has far more support options as I've said for less speed and special attack.

>>33472089
Arcanine is good, Inicneroar is shit. Intimidate won't help. Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody loves Incineroar. It's a shitmon. End of the discussion

>>33472165
the absolute state of owlcucks

>>33472165
wow good job anon, telling him to shut the fuck up and say 'n-no it's shit' really proves you right

>>33472178
>>33472190
Why the fuck is /vp/ so fucking delusional? We keep beating the facts into your thickass heads but you won't accept the facts.

>>33472196
misread the reply chain

You're not stating any facts, you're throwing a vapid hissy fit with no argument.

>>33472228
Because "the absolute state of owlcucks" is surely a valid argument and not at all the true vapid hissy fit with no argument.

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>>33472196
>facts
>his one and only argument is "NUH UH"

Wow real compelling stuff

>>33472271
I've already made an argument. Since you didn't respond to it I just mirrored your shitposting for fun. The onus is on you to provide a counterpoint.

>>33472196
>responding AGAIN with another 'n-no you're wrong' without proof

>>33472281
>>33472296
>>33472308
Incineroar is shit. Look at the facts. I'm not gonna bring up more. End of discussion, you delusional faggots are way too deluded to get it into your chimp skulls.

After it gets intimidate it'll be one of 3 differently typed pokemon with intimidate AND fake out.

>>33472281
>>33472296
>>33472308
Why is it so HARD to understand that if it isn't good in VGC without intimidate, then it WON'T be good in VGC with intimidate. That is BASIC FUCKING FACTS.

>>33472317
>look at the facts
provide some nigger, and quit it with the 'lol end of discussion xd'

>>33472329
And they're all shit. Now fuck off and die.

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>>33472317
Incineroar is shit NOW yes, BUT, it'll get better once it gets Intimidate thanks to its above average bulk and decent movepool. You are a SEETHING owlfag that needs to seek sunlight and get ding dong diddly laid ya pinhead

>>33472317
>>33472335
le samefig whom doesn't understand vgc

>>33472335
>Why is it so HARD to understand that if it isn't good in VGC without intimidate, then it WON'T be good in VGC with intimidate. That is BASIC FUCKING FACTS.
That's some real fucking bullshit logic right there.

>>33472349
you forgot the finna

Where's magmortar? Because that's about what arcanine would be without intimidate. It's nowhere, that's where.
Intimidate is probably the most important ability in VGC. That's why lando is everywhere, that's why arcanine is everywhere. The minute intimidate incineroar drops, it'll go right up in usage immediately. Intimidate, snarl, fake out, willowisp, probably knock off, u turn, throat chop (beat roar users for set up teams/TR teams) will make it a god-tier support mon.

>>33473343
You wish.

>objectively worse designed than arcanine
Name 1 Pokemon that isn't

God, the people who hate Incineroar really lost it, didn't they? Sorry it's gonna end up quite viable and it's getting shilled by Game Freak, guys. You lost, go back to your numale owl and masturbate to it some more. Hehe.

>>33473357
Go back to tumblr to cry in your safe space over Incineroar being popular and useful with more highs to come, nigger.

>>33470243
Also immune to prankster

>>33473518
It will never be useful. Ever. If you want to use a Fire Intimidate mon just use Arcanine. It's better. Stop deluding yourself. Inceroar will never be useful. Deal with it.

>>33473711
See >>33473507, nigger.

Sure arcanine IS better but intimidate would make incineroar atleast slightly less terrible
>Arcanine is better
Arcanine would be better than incineroar overall, but incineroar would have a slight niche.
>Its still terrible
But it won't be complete, 100% shit.

>>33473901
Why is it so heinous to want to see Incineroar stay complete 100% shit?

>>33473711
Well gee, what if you want a Fire Intimidate mon with Fake Out, U-Turn, better attack, higher bulk, dual STAB, psychic immunity, and so on? Can't use Arcanine for that.

>>33472340
>Hitmontop
>Shit
>One of the most consistently seen Pokemon in Worlds

Ok buddy

>competitive

>>33473949
It isn't. I don't care about Incineroar but it cant be worse with intimidate. That's all I'm saying.

I know it's a really unpopular opinion... but I really like Incineroar. I really wish it was more viable.. Sure Intimidate is obviously better, but it's not enough I think.

Here's hoping that GF does something to help boost unviable mons. I am sure we all have our favorites that just aren't up to snuff

>>33473962
Incuneroar has awful speed

>>33473949
How can it be heinous when it makes you sperg out? I want to see Incineroar become even more viable and popular just to piss you the fuck off.

wh-when it gets intimidate you'll see...
it will replace landorus!!!

>World champion of VGC said would be amazing with its hidden ability
>Better trust vp

yeah no.

>>33470273
It's literally Top 30 on Battle Spot Singles, which is more than what a lot of starters can say. Including ones with Mega Evos

>>33470219
>it wouldn't be any better if it had the best ability in the metagame

Ya really got me OP

Incineroar best mon of all , screw charixard and greninja

>>33470273
>fake viability
what the fuck am I reading

>>33471450
It gives it a niche in which it's outclassed in

>>33474680
>implying it's not you falseflagging barafgs trying to make owlbos look stupid

>>33474680
Why would I trust the opinion of some autistic neckbeard virgin furfag?

>>33476270
I don't know, why WOULD you trust yourself?

>>33474680
I know this is going to come across as a shock for you, but sometimes world champions really don't know better, especially if they're blinded by their bias.

I truly am surprised. Barafags always manage to show how much of delusional assholes they truly are.

>>33476868
>especially if they're blinded by their bias
However, people who are blinded by their hatred for Incineroar are right, am I correct?

>>33476885
Antis are always more trustworthy than fans, you know this to be true.

>>33476897
Antis also said Primarina isn't going to be viable because all of it's stats barring sp.atk and sp.def are 80 and under, while the fans said it's typing is enough to make it a monster in UU, and now I know who was right.

>>33476919
>one autistic fanbase does a lucky guess
Wow I can do that too, faggot
Incienroar is shit. Accept it.

>>33474586
Great. Perfect for Trick Room. Which is actually a thing in VGC (and doubles in general for obvious reasons) With its Bulk, dual stab, fake out, U-Turn, and good speed for Trick Room it's going to see usage. Not to mention Prankster immunity.

>>33470280
It has a very unique trick room support role. It can run fake out and throat chop to prevent roars.

>>33476923
>Antis are always more trustworthy than fans
>except for this case which totally doesn't invalidates my claim
I wish we had Intelligent people here.

>>33476919
A broken clock is right twice a day.

arcanine
>90/80/80 bulk
>110/100/95 offensive
>3 weakness, 6 resistance
>intimidate
>flare blitz, iron tail, crunch, close combat, thunder fang/wild charge, extreme speed, lot of fire stab options

incineroar
>95/90/90 bulk
>115/80/60
>4 weakness, 6 resistance, 1 immunity
>intimidate
>only 2 fire stab options, fire fang and flare blitz. coverage include cross chop, outrage, darkest lariat, earthquake, leech life, shadow claw, u-turn, fake out, crunch, brick break and swords dance/bulk up

both are good at different things, arcanine has a handy resistance to fairy and is faster plus access to some good moves like iron head. incineroar is more defensive but still hits physically hard with some good coverage like earthquake. both will be used depending on how the team is built.

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>>33476925
>>33476935
> its good in trickroom

>>33476949
>95/90/90 bulk
Yeah like those ebin 25 points matter, fuck off.
>115/80/60
Literally shittier
>4 weakness, 6 resistance, 1 immunity
One more weakness in trade for one immunity, immunity to the shittiest type that is. HOW FUCKING USEFUL YOU BARAFAGGOT PIECE OF SUBHUMAN TRASH!
>intimidate
Arcanine has that and is 1000x better at it.
>only 2 fire stab options, fire fang and flare blitz. coverage include cross chop, outrage, darkest lariat, earthquake, leech life, shadow claw, u-turn, fake out, crunch, brick break and swords dance/bulk up
Oh all shit moves, can't even take full advantage of its stabs. Yup no arguments here anymore. You have just disproven yourself and at the same time shown that Incienraor is fucking teash.

>>33476958
>points don't matter
okay but they do, its just arcanine's bulk plus some
>shittier offensive
better physical attack so there's still that
>bad typing
fighting is rarely seen in vgc, psychic immunity is helpful because of lele
>intimidate
yes i know arcanine has it, i said it in the post
>movepool
did you look at arcanine's moves? yes, it has iron head and extreme speed but incineroar has way more type coverage. also tell me more about how leech life, earthquake, cross chop and flare blitz are shit. while im here ill add that it also gets acrobatics and throat chop so there's that as well.

>people are still this fucking delusional
Incineroar WILL have a niche in VGC with Intimidate.
>Prankster immunity
>Fake Out
>hits harder than Arcanine Physically
>a little bit bulkier
>in case TR happens
>Darkest Lariat cucks stat boosts

It useful stuff to go around. And people starting bringing up Primarina too? This has to be Owlfags. Just admit that your fav starter is hot fucking trash to use and stop attacking the one that is actually good.

>>33476989
>he says while Incineroar is PU trash

ITT: Owltards literally choking on the autistic rage gurgling from their mouths as they continue to deny the inevitable

Cringe

>>33476997
That last part was about Prim, you mongolian.

Incineroar will still be outclassed in singles and it's not PU to begin with. Stop making yourself look even more retarded.

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>>33477003
>literally choking on the autistic rage gurgling from their mouths as they continue to deny the inevitable

?

>>33477006
Not even trying to be subtle about your owlfaggotry?

>>33477003
You have no evidence that any of the anti-incineroar posters are even fans of Decidueye, retardface.

>>33477012
>>33477006

>>33477012
lol >>33477006

>>33477006
Why can't you falseflaggers just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever.

>>33477022
>Everyone is a falseflagger XD

>>33477006
>tfw Pokken Decidueye is just, if not more expressive than normal Incineshit and at the same time a good design and actually viable in its own way
And there goes the last thing out of the window Incineroar had even in the slighest going for it. It is now considered objectively worse than Arcanine and Decidueye in every way and if you like it or pick it you are objectively wrong and have shit taste. Baraturds can now stop existing.

>>33477043
Fuck off falseflagger.

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>>33477009
>>33477017
>>33477019
>>33477022
>>33477043
>five guaranteed replies
Stay mad, Incineroarfags.

>>33477164
OP here I was >>33477043
and from that I can tell you have shit reading comprehension, which tells me you are not one of us but a falseflagging barafag. End your pathetic existence before the real poster of >>33477006
returns to save the day from disgusting barafags like you.

Incineroar has a better movepool tho.

>>33477167
Not even remotely true you fucking retard.

>>33477043
>a good design and actually viable in its own way
AAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

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>>33477006
>those lazily made plastic-looking wings with a texture slapped on
> that ugly ass face

You'd think Pokken art style could save one of these designs, but it just made it worse.

>>33477310
>>33477328
Fuck off.

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FUCKING BARAAAAAAS AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>33477356
Is it using all of its wings together for the killing blow of homosexual shit baras?

>>33477328
What's next, Barafag?

Pokken is a garbage unpopular shit game?

>>33477328
t. baraturd

>>33470219
>Worse than arcanine
No shit. Arcanine has Recovery and extreme speed.

Top it all off arcanine is faster. Anon TELL me you're only pretending to be retarded

>>33477376
>>33477630
>Everyone that disagrees with me is a barafag! I-i swear!
Not even him either. You ate sad salty owlcucks and denialfags

>>33477785
t. baraturd

>>33477785
Are*

>the barafags are literally SEETHING with rage and fear in this thread because they're getting bombarded with truth
Seems like barafags are officially the biggest losers of all time.

>>33476989
>implying prankster is used in current vgc

>>33476977
>non stab leech life
>non stab miss chop
>slow fire shitmon in general
lmaoing @ ur life

>>33477376
I mean it is.

>>33478118
>Prankster ever being irrelevant despite the nerfs
>Whimsicott is champ this year
Stop making yourself look retarded.

>>33478205
Your face is retarded, baramonger.

>>33478213
>being this ass blasted about facts
Didn't even mention Incineroar to begin with, why so insecure?

>>33478163
Hello Pokebarneyfag

>>33476950
You mean that strategy that always sees consistent usage at high level VGC play? The format that this thread is based on?

Why are people so desperate for this thing to be useable?

>>33478563
It's this gen's shillmon.

>>33478572
That doesn't really seem to be true though. Very little focused marketing has gone behind it. It was a rival Pokemon in one movie. That's all the special treatment it has gotten.

>>33478596
Only ones to get more attention are Lycanroc and Mimikyu, arguably also Koko.
Market wise, Mimikyu, Vulpix and Rowlet are the best sellers this gen.
There can be more than one shillmon a gen, there isn't a thing such as THE shillmon, but A shillmon.

>>33478627
It's tied with Decidueye, right? Since Decidueye is in Pokken.

>>33478596
It's not THE shillmon but it definitely has been shilled. The movie is a big deal and it also got more marketing than most fully evolved Pokemon.

>>33478633
Do you have other examples?

>>33478631
Yes.

>>33478627
>>33478633
>shilled
>as a fucking villain
Bravo.

>>33478645
Being a villain shillmon is a unique role though, not necessarily bad, Incineroar and Lycanroc fit that role perfectly, as a duo even.

>>33478639
Aside from the movie? There's all the merch tied to it. Which is not a lot, but again, it's also more than you can say for the other fully evolved Pokemon. I think Mimikyu is the only exception, isn't it?

>>33478645
Mimikyu is also shilled as a villain. Does that make it less of a shillmon? No of course not because only that Incineroar is known as a villain. Incineroar as a whole also has a good side, see its entry on the official page.

>>33478645
People will use Greninja's movie appearance as precedence, but Greninja was already being singled out with marketing by that point.

Pretty much any time a Alolan starter's final form gets attention, all three do. The only big exceptions are movie rival Inceneroar and Pokken having playable Decidueye. I think both hose roles aren't as significant as people think.

>>33478655
>pokken
>not significant
Shut the fuck up you fucking mongoloid.

>>33478649
I was asking for instances where it got special attention. Every time I have seen merch of Incineroar, It's been alongside the other two as well. Plushes and trading figures for example.

>>33478659
More significant than being used by a movie exclusive rival.

>>33470219
>What's the point of its existence?

that could be said of at least 85% of Pokemon.

>>33478674
20th anniversary movie, also the most successful one.

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As a skinny, socially awkward owlfag myself, I can personally attest that we are the most autistic, most retarded, most desperate fanbase in all of Pokemon.

Please understand us, however, for we are only angry that Game Freak gave us such an ugly, irredeemably shit school shooter fedora redditor caricature to like, and we feel inadequate that superior Tigerbros and Sealgods have excellently designed starters that are competitively good in VGC and Smogon respectively, while our owl rots in a mediocre oblivion where it is unable to do anything right, much like ourselves with our lives.

Please also tolerate us when we keep bringing up Pokken as if it were relevant, for it is the only ammo we have going for our garbage nu-male owl.

I hope this has cleared everything up, and that all of our fanbases can live on this board in peace.

>>33478680
And it's still a minor role vs. an actual playable character in an action game.

>>33478689
Kill yourself, falseflagger

>Incineroars Movie Theme is literally called "The Raging Incineroar"
Guess what its autistic fanbase is doing now kek

>>33478667
It got one mini figure (not the takara tomy one which all starters got) and I THINK they had a set which included Incineroar alongside Pikachu and Lycanroc. I also saw Incineroar stuffed into other unrelated merch posted here a while ago. There could be an equivalent of it for the other starters, but it used a Movie artwork so I don't think that's the case.

>>33478695
I wouldn't call the main antagonist a minor role, also the fact that Incineroar and Lycanroc were hand picked specifically to be in the most important movie alone speaks volumes.

>>33478695
I don't think TPCi considers it a minor role at all. Also it's pretty clear that Pokken's main focus on the roster is diversity and not popularity.

>>33478706
Not really. The only notable things Incineroar does the entire movie are kicking Charmeleons, a non evolved Pokemon btw) ass before it gets its ugly ass face utterly smashed by Charizard.

>>33478699
You can tell what the better fanbase is by the facts that incineroarfags are raging in the most autistic fashion imaginable with their endless ad hominems while decidueyebros are calm and only uses valid arguments and facts when they're attacked by incineroarfags.

>>33478710
Then why did they pick starter with the most popular final form?

>>33478718
The other way around tbqh famalam

>>33478706
>I wouldn't call the main antagonist a minor role
And I wouldn't call the rival the main antagonist of the movie.

>>33478720
Because Incineroar fits an antagonist better than the other two for a villain

>>33478718
You forgot that they also have shit taste and no idea what good design looks like. These "people" are quite sad honestly. But oh well, some human beings just fail and can't be as successful as us.

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As a fat, socially awkward barafag myself, I can personally attest that we are the most autistic, most retarded, most desperate fanbase in all of Pokemon.

Please understand us, however, for we are only angry that Game Freak gave us such an ugly, irredeemably shit hairy wrestler cat redditor caricature to like, and we feel inadequate that superior Owlbros and Sealgods have excellently designed starters that are competitively good in VGC and Smogon respectively, while our tiger rots in a mediocre oblivion where it is unable to do anything right, much like ourselves with our lives.

Please also tolerate us when we keep bringing up Wolfe as if he were relevant, for it is the only ammo we have going for our garbage nu-male tiger.

I hope this has cleared everything up, and that all of our fanbases can live on this board in peace.

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>>33478731
>decidueye
>good in vgc

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>>33478731
>Owl
>Good in VGC
>Good at anything

>>33478728
Then it's already doomed to being overshadowed if that is how they plan on using it in marketing. In the film it exists as a jobber.

>>33478715
That's just how villains are, they can't let them win, they're sole purpose is make tension for the main character and motivate them to get stronger and work harder, which it did.

>>33478737
>>33478738
t. delusional barafucks

>>33478737
>>33478738
Fuck off samefag!!

>>33470219
Not everybody plays competitive, you know.

>>33478737
>>33478738
Seriously, what do you incineroarfags get out of attacking owlfriends? Do you seriously think that aggressively assaulting them will garner you any sympathy from anywhere? You lot sicken me.

>>33478740
Yeah, nobody cares about Ash-Greninja now that it's a jobber. It isn't getting a new figure or anything like that, right?

>>33478757
Are you retarded?

>>33478689
Truth. Owlfags btfo out of existence.

>>33478731
Cringe. Kys.

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>>33478764
?

>>33470219
>What's the point of its existence?

It's base evo looks cool.

That's it.

>>33478777
We're saying that you're retarded for comparing Ash-Greninja to Incineroar, because it's not the exact same situation.

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Can we all agree that this guy has the best fanbase out of the Gen 7 starters?

>>33478795
who

>>33478795
You mean the fanbase that's creating all the shit for the actual gen 7 starters? Yeah sure.

>>33478789
>we
Why do you refer to yourself as more than one guy? You said Incineroar's sole purpose is to be a jobber, but it won every battle until the very end where it loses to Charizard. Greninja did the same, it lost at the end, making it a jobber.

>>33478757
They let Ash-Greninja fall once he had served his purpose in marketing with Gen 6. And he is STILL popular enough to get high end collectors merch.
Incineroar's ONLY special role thus far is jobbing to Charizard. And this isn't some sendoff.

>>33478809
You're truly retarded for thinking that they're even remotely comparable. We will no longer reply to you until you learn to stop being retarded because your retardation is tainting your posts.

>>33478815
It's not his only purpose, though. It defeats Ash once to motivate him to get stronger, and it loses the second time. It's not a jobber, it has a common role in antagonists.

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>>33478737
>>33478738
mmm. thanks for those tasty (You)s. The rumors I heard about /vp/ nerds being dumber than /v/irgins is true

>>33478771
You were dumb enough to reply, so maybe it is you who should kys

I wanted to get at least 3 before leaving today, and I succeeded. Maybe you mouthbreathers should go outside instead of replying to shitty starter wars on the internet.

>>33478844
Incineroar is a jobber and so is your face because we beat your face up all the time.

>>33478847
>Implying you can't reply to shitty starter wars while outside

Mobile phones exist, grandpa

>>33478844
How is that any different than what has been stated?

>>33478847
Decidueye isn't good in VGC. It's an undeniable fact.

>>33478847
I'm just shitposting for shitposting's sakes

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>tfw you made an owlfag cry at school today

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This is the true shillmon of Alola

None of you starter cucks can prove otherwise

>>33478863
A jobber is someone who does nothing but lose repeatedly. That's not the case with Incineroar, otherwise every antagonist would be classified as "a jobber". What bigger role could it have, considering Ash is using his OS pokemon?

>>33478889
Mimikyu has its own song. Lycanroc does not.

>>33478710
Pokken selection is based on popularity and diversity.

See interview below by developer

https://youtu.be/rNEh3imrCKI

Anyway both owlfag and catfag just live in peace. Attack something else like lycanroc or the chimeramon

>>33478974
>Pokken selection is based on popularity and diversity.
What I'm saying is that if the roster had 3 Grass starters and 1 fire starter, instead of being the other way around, Incineroar would have been the one making it into the game instead of Decidueye.

>>33478974
Shut up you dumb faggot. If it were about popularity we'd get shit like Greninja, and maybe a popular Eeveevolution like Sylveon, and not literal whos like A FUCKING CHANDELIER. Also Swampert should have been in it instead of Shitile, nobody gives a shit about that tree dildo fucker.

Also starter wars are the only thing keeping this board alive. We need to keep flinging shit.

Hey catfriends, just leave team owl alone. That shouldn't be too hard, right?

>>33478991
Perhaps but also Not necessarily true. If u look at gen 7 starter popularity polls, alot of times incineroar is at the bottom of the popularity contest.

If they really want a fire type, they may go for a more popular one.

See results

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe5AzkD1-1vMoaYxekOYGvMadRnLKyLPwwqBhtWa1SGeldzbw/viewanalytics

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75716804

>>33479018
Fuck off baranigger.

im an owlfag and i won't deny incineroar will have a niche in vgc. anybody claiming that owl is still better in vgc is falseflagging and (You) should not reply to them

>>33479026
They picked Braixen instead of Greninja, so I don't see where the problem with Incineroar is.

>>33479015
>A FUCKING CHANDELIER.
You mean the most popular Gen 5 Pokemon in Japan?

Owlbros and catbros should just leave eaxh other alone. Fighting has no end to it. Fight against GF to give them better stats

>>33479035
You're a fucking falseflagger. I am team owl. Now fuck off.

>>33479037
See
>>33479035

>>33479018
>>33479037
Can fake owlbros fuck off? You're as just as bad as the barafigs

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>>33478689
>>33478731

This board is complete irredeemable trash.

>>33479052
You're the one who's fake, falseflagger.

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>>33479059
Sealfags are objectively the gayest fanbase

I wonder if theres any moderator in this board. This is a shitty community

>>33479076
Hey the gay community doesnt like the seal either

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>>33479092

As someone who actually plays VGC, and who thinks all Alola starters look meh, you'd be a fool to think its usage won't rise once it gets intimidate. It has a great typing, can function in TR teams or as anti TM tech. Has decent coverage, and has Uturn to boot. Darkest Lariat shits on any mon fond of setting up. Fake Out is always nice in VGC. Will probably not replace Arcanine persé, but if used can make for other team setups. I might actually use the thing really. But that depends on when HA alola starters are released. If its in USUM and we're getting another bullshit UBER/Legendspam meta (the pattern fits) then it won't see use. Of Lando is catch able in USUM then Lando will return as the default Intimidator(God please no.jpg)

>>33479109
>It has a great typing
Hahahaha
>can function in TR teams or as anti TM tech
Hehehehehehehe
>Has decent coverage, and has Uturn to boot
Hohohohoho
>Darkest Lariat shits on any mon fond of setting up
SHAHAHAHA
>Fake Out is always nice in VGC
HAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHHOHOHOHOHAHAHAHAHa

That has to be the wrongest post I've ever read on this godforsaken board. I can't believe you people actually believe your drivel.

>>33474586
Okay? It also has access to all the tools and benefits I listed, and more. Arcanine doesn't.

>this is the current stat of this board
it was already cancer, but this just takes the fucking cake.

Haven't you people learned? You better stfu before you get btfo. Again.

>>33479125
Explain how he's wrong.

>>33479125
nice rebuttal in my opinion

>>33479052
>>33479050
stop falseflagging pls

>>33470219
[Spoiler]OwlFag detected[/Spoiler/]

>>33479178
He won't.

Virgin haters are jealous of Incineroar chads. Hence the endless "NO U" stuff. They lost hard, denying reality is all they have.

>>33479125
Le haha amirite xd baragfifs....

>>33479221
Its pretty funny to see from the outside. All the points I made could be argued against but instead i get pure denial as a response. Laughing at fake out being useful in any doubles setting is fucking stupid. Functing love me some fake out.

>>33478205
then why shit tiger wasn't used?
or why a ground typed crocodile did put more work to stop muh nature power sheep?

dumb barafag
:^)

>ITT: Somebody mentioned an Alola starter, I have to fight in the starter war!

>>33480933
>ITT: Somebody criticized Incineroar and idiots immediately attacked Decidueye because of that. It is heinous to defend Decidueye because I say so

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>>33481245
>w-we are the victims, i swear

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Forget Incineroar, I'll be your slow Intimidate user for tonight

>>33481327
go slow daddy

>>33481312
...except that we ARE the victims? Just scan this thread. It's Team Incineroar attacking Team Decidueye before Team Decidueye even said anything.

>>33481346
look for yourself faggot
>>33471411
>>33471595
>>33472002

Why is it that anytime someone critize bara, it must be the owl, and the other way is true also. We are falling into the trap of the real manipulators. Wake up

>>33481386
Why do you use the term "bara" instead of "Incineroar/cat" followed directly by "owl", if you want to make a point? Not very smart.

Dude stop picking a fight out of nothing. Just a mistske when the term that is repeatedly used here is barafag and owlfag. Bara by itself is nothing wrong, it just mean a hunky person. Stop adding fuel

>>33481377
I don't see any owl fans in these posts.

>>33481461
I don't think they like to be called "bara".

>>33481492
That strikes me as a weird thing. It's like getting offended over being called a scub fan when you're a scub fan.

>>33481495
It might surprise you to know the majority of catfans like Incineroar for nonsexual reasons, retard.

>>33481495
One can like Incineroar without liking bara, though.

>>33481532
The truth is, Incineroar's gotten so much more actual popularity than the haters wanted it to have as the generation goes on they're basically resorting to "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT SUX" falseflagging because they have nothing else. They claim it's still PU-tier when it's clearly risen and will rise further with HA/USUM tutors, it's gotten in Movie 20 and Ash's Litten will evolve in the anime, in every thread of "unpopular opinions" or "mons only YOU like" you get endless "hey Incineroar's pretty cool I like it tons' posts. It's just them refusing to admit defeat and also seeing things sexually in a way no one else does.

Essentially, the real barafags are the Incini-haters if they focus so much on muscular furries where there are none.

>>33481346
No, YOU scan this thread. Hell, just look at OPs post! What is it with you owlfags and thinking you're always the fucking victim? Every time I see one of these threads about Incineroar, its always bombarded by owlcucks calling it a "bara" and people that like it barafags. I've never seen a catbro or sealbro attack Decidueye threads, but I ALWAYS see owlfags attacking Incineroar threads. Fuck, most of the time its not even a true Incineroar thread, its an owlfag making fun of it because they still think that Incineroar is PU tier.

The thread is already approaching a peace and yet u are here to start a war again. Whats wrong with you.

In owl threads, i have seen plenty of insults also. So stop, all these fueling and stop bringing up the older posts. U r really contributing to the starter war

>>33481623
OP never mentioned even a grass starter. What makes you think that OP is an "owlfag"?

>>33476997
Actually, that's wrong. Incineroar is maintaining a solid spot in NU and that's without his actually useful HA and no move tutors. Meanwhile, Decidueye keeps falling faster and faster down the ladder and is currently RU, and you better pray that it gets some good move tutors in ultra, because that HA of his isn't doing him any favors.

Incineroar will certainly see more useage once he gets his HA and move tutors. The only thing that can save Decidueye from eventual PU hell is a complete stat overhaul.

>>33481663
It happens for both of them. Look the the third and forth reply here, It's a thread about Decidueye and yet people are immediately pointing their finger at Incineroar. We reached a point where people just assume that.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/33465813/#33465813

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>>33481327
>No Fake Out
Oh well, your movepool is still jaw-dropping at least.

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>yfw HAs are released in gen 10

>>33481650
Can you shut up you fat ugly fag? These starters deserve starterwars as their only discussion. They're pure trash.

>>33482364
t. Ballio

>>33480898
The cat has no ability while the croco has the best one in the format

>say i'm an owlfag and that incineroars viable
>get called falseflagger
>say i'm an owlfag and incineroar isn't viable
>get called falseflagger
hopefully jannies purge this soon

>>33482699
End yourself falseflagger

>retards still fall for the tranny seal mindgames

>>33471588
What is Blaziken?

>>33486134
>a mod is probably the one constantly posting that lanklet Roar fanart thinking it's good

I'm sick to my stomach

>>33486236
Which one?

>>33486244
raikoos profile pic on smogon

>>33486283
I don't see it constantly posted though

>>33486283
Holy shit even as someone who neither hates or likes the Litten line that pic is disgusting.

Bit of a hyperbole on my part, but one nigger kept posting it before when Incineroar's design was brought and kept saying it was what Incineroar should ideally look like

Kinda ticked me off cause I'd even take regular Roar over that dreck

>>33486290
>>33486309

>>33486236
he plays vgc
probably the one who claims it will be good on the next vgc national dex championships since it will get intimidate
delusional

>>33486328
everyone who plays vgc says that though, even wolfe or some anon from the vgc general

>>33486342
That just means that everyone who plays VGC are delusional. Just because the majority once believed in the past that the world was flat, doesn't mean that the world IS flat.

>>33486384
can't wait to see your tears and backpedaling toward incineroar when it will dominate every tier