>people hating on Alain Was it really worse than Ash's

>>33435505
Yes. None of those were in the final round.

Or Mega Sceptile losing to a quad resisted Water Shuriken

>actually has an arc
>actually fought for someone in the league
>has a far more diverse range of emotions and expressions than XY Ash

I don't understand why more people were not rooting for him t b h

>>33435505
XY fans have out of control autism, and hate to see their "perfect Satoshi" fail at anything.

>>33435505
>Ash at the most competent he's ever been
>Battles Alain and loses every time
>No League in Alola meaning this is Ash's last chance for at least 3 years
>Pokemon is celebrating an anniversary
>Pokemon Go has put Pokemon at a high not seen since Poekmania
>Ash and Greninja grow stronger with each loss and begin pushing Alain's Charizard to the limit
>Ash unlocks a super special once in a lifetime bond with Greninja
>The story is being built up to Ash finally beating Alain and overcoming his greatest challenge
>Their final match is set for the League finals
>League matches are skipped for the first time because of how OP Ash has become
>Finally the time for battle has come
>Pikachu puts the team on his back onluy for Ash's "greatest" team to job
>Goodra forgets how to dodge
>Talonflame draws with worst bird
>Base Charizard tanks a thunderbolt from Pikachu
>Build up for final battle is Greninja's maximum strength Water Shuirken
>Greninja beats the shit out of Megazard
>Beam clash between Shuriken and BURASTO
>Greninja jobs
>All that build up to Ash and Greninja finally overcoming Alain is thrown away
>The only reason Alain joined the tournament was to fight Ash vs Ash's dream and the series goal
>Team Flare arc starts
>All media presents Alain and Ash on opposing sides
>Instead Alain saves Ash multiple times
>Charizard has to help save the day
>SM starts and Ash fucks off as if Kalos never happened
I will never not be mad

>>33436272
Autism

Y'all know that Ash won't win a tournament until the current staff retires and is replaced by rabid Ash fanboys, right? It's the same deal as in comic books.

>>33436779
They probably simply won't be allowed to, even when that happens. The Pokemon anime team will never be given as much freedom as the average comic book writer.

>>33436793
>freedom
>Implying

>>33435925
because they were too busy hating on "zard shilling" and the frog fanboys were too many

>>33435505
Yeah, because this time they made us believe he actually had a chance.

Alain said like half a dozen episodes before the league that he wasn't competing. Then like 2 episodes before it starts they basically say "oh btw he collected all the badges in like 4 episodes now he will be in the league haha"

>>33435925
>has a far more diverse range of emotions and expressions than XY Ash

Just another bait from SMunderage.

>>33437690
That's your own damn fault for being braindead retarded. What would possibly make you animefags believe he'll EVER win the league when he lost it 5 times in a row before that? Those of us who stopped watching the anime figured out as kids that he's never going to win the league

Part of me kinda likes Ash's Sinnoh loss cause he took down two legends in a single battle, and showed he was pretty obviously the number two trainer there, it was just ridiculous.

>>33438025
Did you figure out as kids that Pokemon was never going to drop gyms and that all the "trials" stuff SM advertised was just them trying to trick gullible people into thinking they might be done this time too?

>>33438033
That's literally what happened in the Kalos League too.

>>33438039
That decision was made by GF, and affects the games. You know, the things the anime is meant to promote?

>>33438025
Why is the show so against characters accomplishing things, when in the games you can be the best trainer on your first try?

>>33438690
For a kodomo ass show it sure is sending the wrong message across

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>>33436272
>>Ash unlocks a super special once in a lifetime bond with Greninja
top kek. this silly plot device was exactly why i was satisfied with the outcome

>>33438664
So will SM not have a tournament this time around, or will they force another tournament and have Ash lose the final by DQ this time?

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>>33436272

>>33436590
no u

>Ash Greninja beat Diantha's Mega Gardevoir
>Couldn't beat Alain's Charizard

>>33435505
BURASTO

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>>33440826

I didn't understand why the marketing put Ash and Alain on opposite sides when they worked together to save the world the entire time?

>>33440816
Alain's Zard > Diantha's Gardevoir, simple as that

>>33436272
>the most competent he's ever been
1000 multiplied by 0 is 0

>>33436272

This. Worst of all, SM had the PERFECT setup. Champion Ash, after having won the Kalos League, is invited to the Alola region where he gets into new shenanigans while preparing for the Champion League (next arc).

Instead. We get this go nowhere bullshit plot where the only grab are meme faces

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>>33435505
Kalos is easily the second worst league, rushed as it was with any memorable moments withered by such a horrid ending that is only outdone because of Unova League, thanks in no small part to Cameron.
Tobias was bullshit, but losing as he did only made him look mighty as all fuck. Sinnoh League and Ash vs Paul are still the best the anime has to offer.

>>33435505
I'm actually annoyed that Alain struggled against Ash.

In the semifinals, he took down his opponent with just two Pokemon: Metagross and Charizard.

They nerfed Alain during the Ash match to make it more "interesting."

>>33438045
>literally
what legendaries did Alain use?

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Reminder the writers had the nerve to make Alain say this about Ash after Flare.

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>>33441533
can't tell whether they wanted to say "we know it was a fuckup but we can't do anything about it, sorry" or it was merely an experiment to see which of them would laugh the most

>>33441533
he has an inferiority complex and has symptoms of depression, makes sense that he would think that