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Before everything, I want to make ir clear it's not my intention to buttfluster the most hardcore blind fanboys that will defend anything.
That being said, I would wish to understand how it's even possible to go from THIS to THAT?
Who thought it was a good idea?
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Gotta get with the times, gramps.
Pokémon was losing overall views, so they had to change that old-ass artstyle to something fresh and new.
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>>33420586
Lots of people with shit taste that roam on this board think it's actually good.
That's why it's allowed to do such abominable things to good character designs.
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>>33420586
They wanted a silly cartoony art style because they wanted that Yokai Watch money and Yokai Watch is a comedy show.
Pokemon is not a comedy show, but it's never been super serious or a grand sweeping epic either.
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>>33420586
The art style now fits more with what the show's target audience is. Kids. It's a cartoon for kids and now it looks the way it should instead of trying to look like an action series.

t. Someone who hates the show and thinks it should have ended ages ago.
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Gen 1 Ash was created with the idea that the anime wouldn't last that long, so they went with a more complex design.
I fucking ADORE Gen 1 anime's cell shaded look and overall style but I can tell you that the characters did not move around much at all. It looks great in stills, but as a moving feature it's not even average.
Gen 7 Ash was made to move around and be expressive, if you actually watched a single episode of SM, you'd know Ash gets REALLY into the battles now, VS literally every other generation where he was standing around either yelling or pointing. I can't even tell you how many times they reused the stock footage of him throwing a Pokeball in Gen 1.
tl;dr Ash is getting focus in battles instead of just the Pokemon, and it's really made me like him.
Not that it matters though. I hate when something Gen 1 related happens and /vp/ gets flooded with normalfags who don't actually give a shit about the series past muh childhood. Same shit with GO.
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How was it possible to go from THIS to THAT

Oh, wait.
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>>33420617
>if you actually watched a single episode of SM, you'd know Ash gets REALLY into the battles now, VS literally every other generation where he was standing around either yelling or pointing.

Like what? He fight opposing pokemon himself now?
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>>33420612
Not at all, this kind of artstyle is used in a more "adult oriented" animes too.
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Clam the fuck down. Ashnime's main target audience are little kids (Kodomo).

They literally made a smart choice.

SM Ash is cute and expressive which is relatable for little kids, it's target audience.

However, SM Ash is still competent, strong and sometimes even badass, which is what you, my autistic oldfags, should be happy about.


XY Ash wasn't relatable for kids.

BW Ash was, but he was a shit Trainer.
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>>33420586
Not only the anime haha
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>>33420670
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>>33420608
>Yw
>comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3yKbQF46w
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>>33420660
Poor kids these day....
I remember when I was a kid, I loved Japanese anime because it was well drawn and hated American garbage cartoon because art style was shit (on purpose with that)
I mean, between Pokemon/Captain Tsubasa/Cat's Eyes and Hey Arnold!/Sponge Bob/Looney Toons, the choice was quickly made
A shame pokemon (and many other japanese anime nowdays) decided to follow the American route....
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>>33420690
Good animation>>>>"good" artstyle.
It's an anime, if i want to see stills i read the manga.
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>>33420680
That's an upcoming movie, not the main anime. The main anime is as silly as fuck.
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>>33420700
Anime is about art stule
If youonly care about good animation, go watch 3D animation movies like Shrek
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>>33420617
>if you actually watched a single episode of SM, you'd know Ash gets REALLY into the battles now, VS literally every other generation where he was standing around either yelling or pointing.


You mean like that?
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/36952

Cool. I'm glad they're not putting effort into the fight, and instead are animating Ash flail around like a retard.
We Yu-Gi-Oh now!
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>>33420713
True, but style is subjective. I personally think SM's more expressive cartoony bouncy style fits Pokemon just fine and works well with the more fluid animation we have now.
And it's fine if you don't like it personally, but way too many people on 4chan think their taste dictates objective quality.
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>>33420586

Stop being a fucking moron. You are not the intended target audience for the anime. Grow the fuck up and stop being entitled.
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>>33420586
I feel like I'm the only one here that likes the new art style
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>>33420725
PrinceOfTennis.webm
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>>33420729
Remember in the 90s and early 2000s when anime targeting kids were still well drawn?
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>>33420713
>movement is irrelevant to animation
>>33420732
I prefer the new artstyle too.
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>>33420732
Nah, it's actually really good and animates amazingly. Anyone who doesn't like it knows nothing about animation.
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>>33420746
I remember it being shit
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>>33420713
This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read.
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>>33420732
>>33420776
>>33420781
The kind of faggots who'd like Picasso over Michelangelo

>If it's shittily drawn on purpose surely it must be art
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>>33420786
/vp/ in a nutshell
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>>33420799
Are you comparing the original generic anime art style of pokemon, to Michelangelo?
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>>33420818
He's right tho
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>>33420746

Yeah, I remember the good old times when autists like you didn't bitch about cartoons that weren't intended for them.

I'm sorry but the cruel fact is that nobody in the staff in charge of this anime gives a shit about what you or I say. Does it look shit? MAYBE.

But the kids like it, and the ratings are good, and in the end that is all what matters. Posts like yours, and threads like this in general make me lose hope in humanity. Knowing that I have to breathe the same air as the scum who is posting this trash day by day because they can't make peace with the fact that their opinion is irrelevant and that there are actual children, the actual target audience, who likes it, who enjoys it.

So fuck off, and grow up. I have no idea how old you really are, but you are acting like a complete brat.
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>>33420799
I think it looks objectively better than the original art style. That's not the same as praising an artist that literally just drew a stripe on a canvas, you mouth breather.
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>>33420586
Anon, you're assuming the ashnime is made with the intent of producing a quality product which is not the case. This is a show literally made for you to get tired of because of how bad it is. Nobody thought it was a good idea because nobody involved cares about whether its a good idea or not.
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Out of curiosity, how has the ratings been in Japan since they made the change? Did the art style change actually benefit the series, or did it cause more people to drop the series then bring in new viewers?
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>>33420620
old luffy was much better.
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>>33420892
Ratings are a bit higher than the tail end of XYZ, which corresponds with the usual tenendcy: each start of a series gets a ratings bump over the last series' end. It's usually around 3.something, but on some occasions has gone under 3.0 too.
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Funny how people keep regurgitating the whole "it looks simple so it'll animate beautifully!" yet can never give any good example of SM actually being extremely well animated on a consistent episode to episode basis like they all said it would be at the beginning all cause of one faggot who thought he was smarter than everyone for creating the headcanon just to be a contrarian in the first place.

Prove to me right now that there are well animated scenes for the entirety of every episode of SM that justify it's shitty art style like you all said it would. You can skip the baseball episode because that's literally the only except where the whole episode actually does move good AND look good at the same time.

None of the other series had people basting that it would be smoothly animated 24/7 like SM apparently would be, so they all get a pass. Even BW. SM, on the other hand, has some explaining to do.

So get to it or shut up and fuck off.
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The art style in SM is great. The only problem is Ash.
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>>33421071
Check the last episode. Iwane's work, 10/10.
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>>33421160
Nope. Majority that episode just looked "okay" in the animation department and wasn't consistently free-flowing in movement or any of that other junk you folks seem to like.

Not to mention that episode was boring as sin.
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>>33421142
Ash and Team Rocket. They honestly look even worse than he does and that's saying something.
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>>33421142
Ash is the main problem but not the only one
Far ginger is retarded looking too
And so are Brock and Misty
Characters are a problem overall
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>>33420598
They can change it into another style that's easier on the eyes. What's to say that they cannot explore the different kinds of anime styles out there and still retain true to the target demographic?
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>Bitching about a redesign in THAT long Anime show

Are you fucking autistic?
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>>33421369
Thing is that if it was an improvement it'd be okay
But what's the point of redesigning something to make it objectively shittier?
It's like Youtube interface updates
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>>33421391
It's either your eyes or you taste are shit.

They changed to a more cartoony "bubbly" art style to appeal kids. Heck, even USUM Heroes have that vibe. Don't forget that it's a show for little kids.
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>>33421391
Because it's not objectively shittier just because you don't like it?
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>>33421391
>objectively shittier
It boils down to preferences and you know it. Personally I think the new artstyle looks great, what's wrong with the characters looking and acting goofy? It's a show for kid's and it fits imo.
>>33421071
>smoothly animated 24/7
I'm pretty sure nobody said this since we all know that this is the Pokemon anime where nobody gives a shit about quality control outside of the key episodes anyways.
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>>33421413
>kids must be given retarded looking shit, it cannot be otherwise

In the 90s, kids were given good looking anime
Why can't it be anymore?
Kids don't necessarily prefer retarded looking stuff
That's why in the 90s they'd choose DragonBall over Looney Tunes and why in the 2000s they'd choose Pokemon over SprongeBob
Now Pokemon is SpongeBob....
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>>33421391
Looks different =/= Looks shit.

Everything looks fine, it's just different. You are complaing because you can't adapt to this new style after all those 20(-) years.
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>>33421422
Look at OP pic and tell that again
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>>33421431
>Now Pokemon is SpongeBob....
I wish because then the anime would actually be decent
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>>33421435
Actually, I do prefer the old art style, but my personal taste in art styles is not objective.
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>>33421413
>Heck, even USUM Heroes have that vibe
They literally look the same as SM. The only difference is that they aren't in a simple standing pose.
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>>33421435
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>>33421477
Trying to hard nigga
Take you bottom pic and compare it top OP's top
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>>33421502
And? It looks even better. Stop pretending to be an autist and read >>33421432
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>>33421502
Everyone sees the art style is different, but no one has explained why the new one is bad other than "I don't like it because it's different".
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>>33421339
Fat ginger looks bad even in the games IMO.

Brock and Misty are passable. They don't look as bad as Ash.
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>>33420586
Doesn't look bad, just different.
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Everything in the ashnime is garbage the art, the animation, the plot, the protagonists, the Pokémon saying their names lol, is the worst anime in the history, Pokémon is diarrhea
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>>33421517
If it's bad is probably cause it seems to waste time on random bullshit that doesn't really amount to much.

But aside from that and the Ash design. It's decent.
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>>33421517
>but no one has explained why the new one is bad

Because it's poorly drawn, you massive autist
It is objectively way poorerly drawn than the original art style
Now you can go contrarian and claim that you prefer the poorly srawn "style", but fact is that most people prefer well drawn things over shittily drawn ones
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>>33421530
>is the worst anime in the history,

Chargeman KEN.
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>>33421527
Where is this art from? Looks like that kind of "official" sketch arts animators usually post on Twitter.
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>>33421539
But how is it poorly drawn? Explain to me in words how the way it is drawn is worse than the old art style.
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>>33421539
>objectively
there's that word again. It's not objectively worse drawn, it's a different artstyle. The characters are simpler and more bubbly which imo is a nice change and lends itself to better animation and more expressive poses/faces
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>>33421539
>using objectivity in art
Autists calling other people autists never fail to make me laugh.
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>>33421552
Are you massively braindead?
How is pic related not poorly drawn?
Want me to explain you with words why the color red is red too?
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I'm boycotting the anime until this art style is gone. I suggest ya all do the same.
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>>33421571
You don't know what a bad drawn picture is.
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>>33420732
>>33420776
>>33420781
>>33420858
>>33421413
>>33421422
>>33421510
>>33421517
>>33421527
>>33421552
>>33421559
>this level of autism

Soon you're going to argue that shit doesnt objectively taste bad
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>>33421571
Can't you fucking read this >>33421432 ?

Stop acting like you are baiting.
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>>33421571
How many times will you use the same single screenshot that proves absolutely nothing ? Be it on /vp/, /v/ or /a/, you always post it as if you are in a crusade to make everyone hate SM. Chill, dude.
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>>33421577
>I'm boycotting the anime until this art style is gone. I suggest ya all do the same.
Only on /vp/, folks
>>33421586
>if I quote every single person with a different opinion, I win
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>>33421571
Yes. Because if it is objectively inferior, you should be able to actually explain why instead of just spamming "look at it" over and over.
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>>33421577
Sure, do it and fuck off. Nobody cares.
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>>33421565
See >>33420799

Not every piece of garbage can be art because hupsters have decided that shitty looking stuff was great for being so shitty
Kys
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>>33421607
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>>33421542
Skelter+Heaven.

Chargeman Ken is at least only five minutes long

as for wading into this debate: I wish they'd gotten rid of the lines under Ash's eyes when they were simplifying the design; now they look like some weird-ass mustache and it's very visually distracting. Other than that, I have no real opinion on the redesign.
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>>33421607
Now that's what I call ART!!!
How can Hayao Miyazaki even compete?
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>>33421607
>using in-between as an argument
Stop digging your own grave.
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>>33421598
And because red is objectively red, you should be able to explain it is with words
Wanna try?
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>>33421605
>hupsters
>kys
Thanks for the confirmation, triggered underage autist.
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>>33421632
The color red is visible light with a wavelength of 620–750 nm.
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>>33421641
>underage
>nostalgiafag

Can't be both
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>>33421648
How does that prove that red is indeed red tho?
What you see as red could be blue to everyone else but you while still be called red by them
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Take a look at this.
https://ranking.goo.ne.jp/column/article/4487/
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>>33421658
I don't think you really understand what objectively means.
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>>33421651
>implying he's a nostalgiafag.
He's a XYfag, no need for him to be old.
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>>33421666
I don't think you understand what red means
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No Opinions that differ from mine are Alllowed: The Thread
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>>33421763
Their allowed
But there shit
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>>33420586
>Top
Determined, confident, going to kick your ass brutally hard in a pokemon match

>Bottom
Dead on the inside and trembling on the verge of a mental breakdown as he watches Lillie getting fucked right in front of him
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>>33421071
The baseball episode doesn't use SM's animation style anyway. You could've put that shit in literally any series.
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>>33421571

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBH3IYRjaw
>Pokemon Sun and Moon: The Importance of New Anime Character Designs | Animator Spotlight
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>>33421659
https://ranking.goo.ne.jp/column/4487/ranking/50279/
>more than twice as many votes as second place

>B-But Japan likes this design, it's only /vp/ contrarians that don't
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>>33420586
Holy fuck this is like Nick Jr
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>>33420586
Not that I'm disagreeing with your point OP, but if you come out super-defensively like this it's gonna put people on edge and detract from your opinion.
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>>33421179
and pikachu
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>>33420690
This, so much. I watched DBZ as a kid and I always prefered that art style to the other show's cartoon-style art.
Why do people think that just because it's a kid's show, it has to look ridiculous??? If kids actually prefer this kind of artstyle, they should have been fucking aborted in the first place.
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>>33421999
>samefagging because people ignore your post
And nobody said that. If there is people triggered by such a change here, there would be some in Japan too. And I love how people just focus on Ash and ignore every other character as it wouldn't prove their point.
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>>33420690
>captain Tsubasa
>well drawn

thanks for corfirming me you're shitposting
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>>33422052
>If kids actually prefer this kind of artstyle, they should have been fucking aborted in the first place.
Same could be said for you watching DragonBall
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>>33422058
>And I love how people just focus on Ash and ignore every other character as it wouldn't prove their point.

But we don't
Proof is all this shitstorm on /vp/ started when we saw how ugly new Brock and Misty were
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>>33422068
Well, compared to SM Ash, it is
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>>33422058
>everybody that disagrees with me is a samefag
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>>33422084
You sure always use the same "arguments", even when you are accused of samefagging, shitposter-kun. Either, you're samefagging, or your soul mate is here somewhere in these threads.
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>>33422135
That first post just said "take a look at this" and posted a link. That's not even an argument.
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>>33422175
That's not the first time he's posting this. And the article is explicit enough to show the point of its first post. This guy is always doing the same shit in the anime threads.
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>>33422198
>streaming
>IMG
Whatever you wanted to say, opinion discarded.
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>>33422198
>the crybaby is a phoneposter
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>>33422211
Unfortunately for your autism, I'm >>33421999

And no, I was not replying to my own post.
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>>33420617
but the art style sucks ass. kanto to hoenn was way superior. i don't get why people like you are defending this crap. are you really that big of a fanboy? the style is dogshit, you know it, i know it, we all know it.
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>>33422244
>Kanto superior
>When it was barely animated and the fights were embarassing to watch
No. I enjoyed OS, but the animation sucked, even with the 90's standards.
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>>33420835
You're acting like someone who never watched the first season as a kid. That's why you like this shit art. You don't realize what you were missing.
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>>33422280
Dumb nostalgiafag
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>>33422286
You're just mad young'un.
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>>33422275
nah you don't know what you're talking about. most anime in the 90s was miles better than the streamlined crap we have today.
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>>33422347
>most anime in the 90s was miles better than the streamlined crap we have today.
You couldn't be more wrong.
>inb4 lol show me some examples xD
You first since you made the claim
>>33422335
I'm not the manchild who makes dozens of threads about getting triggered by a show for toddlers
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>>33422357
if you were a kid in the 90s and watched anime, you would know what I'm talking about. you clearly weren't, sorry. that still doesnt mean you have to get angry about missing the golden age of anime. we're all born in different times, anon.
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>>33422403
>if you were a kid in the 90s and watched anime,
Nostalgiafag AND a manchild. You're literally saying that shows catered for children during the 90s were the "golden age of anime". Completely ignorant of anime as a whole except for the shit you watched when you were a toddler. But you're right, anime is shit nowadays, even though we got stuff like videos related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4y8ph3cH54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNYD5qIcOqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDYea3qPzSU

Please stop talking about stuff you clearly no nothing about
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>>33422491
*know
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>>33422491
Those clips look good, though. Why can't SM look like that?
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>>33422508
Because a 22 minute commercial doesn't need to look like that. It's wasted money.
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>>33422491
wow thanks for proving me right!
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>>33422510
So why can't it look like how it looked until last year, then?
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>>33422517
>damage control
>>33422518
New season, new artstyle. And no, it's not objectively worse just because you don't like it.
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>>33422530
"If it's not broke, don't fix it" is a phrase for a reason.
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>>33422530
Actually, it IS objectively worse if a LOT more people preferred it the way it was.
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>>33422546
No, that just means that the artstyle is unpopular. By your logic the simpsons is the best tv show ever because ao many people like it.
>>33422539
Personally I think it looks better than XY
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>>33422552
If most people agree it looked better before, it's objectively considered to have looked better before.
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>>33421586
TPC could put out an anime which has the art style like the first season of south park and those anons would still say its amazing. its meaningless to argue with them, they'll always have TPC's dicks in their mouths, no matter what. its sad really.
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>>33422575
You don't know what objectively means
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>>33422552
According to your logic, The Simpsons isn't bad just because you apparently don't like it. So what made you pick that particular example and not some other random TV show you pulled out of a hat?
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>>33422585
The argument I made is that popularity does have nothing to do with whether something is good or bad. I am indifferent towards the simpsons
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What is bad here? Literally.
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>>33422594
So why bring up the Simpsons and not some other show? Clearly it couldn't have had anything to do with the rather common opinion that modern Simpsons is shit, since common opinions count for nothing according to your own post.
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>>33420586
Fuck ash, guzma should be the protagonist
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>>33422621
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>>33422603
>common opinions count for nothing
Exactly. And now that I think about it, I probably really chose that example because I think the simpsons in general are very subpar. However, I don't care if that is the opinion of many others since it is an opinion I came to on my own accord, if you get what I'm trying to say.
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>>33422597
Nothing, really
SM really improved Ash's design
As matter of fact, it can be even better improved
Here, I did it
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>>33422664
>And now that I think about it, I probably really chose that example because I think the simpsons in general are very subpar.
I know. You literally fucked over your own point right there.

Also, "modern Simpsons is shit compared to classic Simpsons" is an incredibly common opinion, just like "SM looks like shit compared to XY and the older series" is.
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>>33422674
Literally triggered.
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>>33422686
Literally his perfectly valid opinion, according to chummy here.
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>>33422686
You shouldnt be
It's just a different art style and objectively not inferior to OP's pics because anons here have decided there can't be objectivity in tastes
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>>33422685
>I know. You literally fucked over your own point right there.
I'm sorry for that mistake.
>Also, "modern Simpsons is shit compared to classic Simpsons" is an incredibly common opinion,
My whole point was that it doesn't matter if an opinion is common or not but if it's an opinion backed by facts, arguments and logic.
Also, I think that simpsons as a whole is bad, read my previous post again.
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>>33422694
Define objectivity.
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>>33422692
You didn't understand the point I was trying to make at all. Just because you keep posting your shitty image macros with OS at the top and SM at the bottom doesn't make SM's artstyle bad per se. Why don't you try to argumentate against it instead? What do you dislike about it?
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>>33422743
>everyone that calls me out on my shit is OP samefagging
Just stop, m8.
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>>33422750
Oh come on, there are clearly only a few autists making these threads, three at most.
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>>33422754
Probably. But there's 38 posters in this one, and that isn't OP and 37 anons that think SM looks perfectly fine.
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>>33422797
Fair point.
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>>33421467
Negative.

SpongeBob is absolute trash that should've been discarded 15 years ago.
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>>33422803
Season 1-3 was good imo
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>>33420586
I agree OP. The new art style is truly revolting. Lost all of the charm the original had.
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>>33422829
Yeah, it was passable, which is why I said 15 years. It premiered 18 years ago.
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>>33420690
Of course the amerisharts would force their shitty art style onto Japan, the country they stole all their animation techniques from. Which is obvious if you're not retarded, that's why amerilards cartoons look awful and are terribly animated, they never learned how to properly apply those stolen techniques onto their style of animation.
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>>33423106
>Of course the amerisharts would force their shitty art style onto Japan, the country they stole all their animation techniques from.
Disney movies are famous for their incredible animation quality. If anything, Japan has been influenced by the huge impact of the West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4jlZoBGQeE
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>>33422803
>>33422921
>He doesn't like Mimic Madness
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>>33423158
>Disney movies are famous for their incredible animation quality
lol what? No they're not. They have always reused animation and cgi, even as far back as Bambi.
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>>33420586
Budget.
SM is simply irrelevant so why bother.
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>tfw Brock and Misty brought back the shitty genwunners

I'm starting to think Brock and Misty shouldn't have came back
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>>33420640
that's Trigger we're talking about, I don't think it counts.
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>>33420690
>Captain Tsubasa

have a (You)
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To be honest I dislike the new art style I don't care about what most you guys say about it being smooth or fresh or whatever it's a downgrade to its predesscors
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>>33422052
> I watched DBZ as a kid and I always prefered that art style
>DBZ
>art style

just because you're blinded with nostalgia doesn't mean it was good
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>>33423213
I don't even know what the fuck that is

Please don't redpill me either
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>>33423269
They're only back for two episodes, the genwunners will watch those, write some angry Facebook posts about how the episodes raped their childhood because (insert dumb reason here), then disappear again.
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>>33423938
They're not even going to watch those two episodes, all they need to know is that their childhoods are in mortal danger because of changes to a show they stopped watching years ago.
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>>33423245
Ahahahahahahahah
Most ignorant post i've read in fucking years
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both are shit compadre
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>>33423978
Disney has reused animation in the past, but that anon acting like that means Disney isn't widely regarded as the best in the business is really stupid.
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>>33424012
At the moment, I think Pixar is held in higher regard.
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ITT: people talking about opinions about anime that don't actually watch good anime
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>>33424046
such as?
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>>33420586
They wanted to accurately portray how hard Ash got BURASTO BANND by Alain by having even the artstyle take a huge hit.
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>>33424186

people in this thread are talking about how anime hasn't been good since the 90s and shit, but there's so much quality shit out there. Just because they don't air it on whatever children's TV channel airs anime nowadays doesn't mean there isn't some good shit

Here are some shows I like off the top of my head: Baccano!, Kids on the Slope, Gurren Lagann, Kill la Kill, Space Dandy, Ping Pong: The Animation, the Tatami Galaxy, One-Punch Man, Samurai Champloo, Code Geass. I'm about to watch Steins;Gate because my friends have been roasting me for not watching it (and people jerk themselves off over it a lot), and I really want to watch Your Lie in April.

I don't have the most refined taste in anime, but goddamn there's been some good shit depending on what you like to watch.
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>>33424101
They better not be bullying my beautiful Lana
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>>33424297
Gurren langan art looks like sm, it's shit
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>>33424297
>One punch man
>Good
The most boring shonen i've watched
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>>33424325

bad taste desu

you should really watch it though, it's loads of fun

>>33424350

>not realizing OPM is a satire
>liking shonen anime that aren't satires
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>>33424350
retard detected
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>>33424373
Still is boribg
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>>33424325
Unironically kill yourself if that's your reply to such an extensive and friendly post
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>>33424406
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>>33424297
>Kids on the Slope
My nigga. Learning all the music was performed by students at a music school made it even better for me
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>>33424373
>That shading and lineart
Was ttgl animated using digital software like SM ?
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>>33424432

I actually didn't know that, that's so good

thanks for the cool piece of trivia!
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>>33424457

The show aired in the mid to late 2000s, so the final product was probably animated using digital software. I think the key animation drawings were hand drawn though

pic related: key animation drawings to final animation
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it's pretty simple... just look at the ANIMATED movement from everyone... I honestly prefer this style over any of the others if it's easier on the animators to make...
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>>33424297
I've seen a couple of shows on your list, really want to watch Gurren Lagann at some point. Props for OPM, Space Dandy, and Kill La Kill. Shitposts aside I also like JoJo
Is My Hero Academia any good?
>>
WHY DO YOU CARE

THE ANIME HAS SUCKED FOR 2 DECADES
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>>33424558
Oh, that's cool, thanks anon.
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>>33424694
Yeah it's really good
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>>33424694

Gurren Lagann has a really strong S1, and then S2 kind of dawdles but has a really strong finish. The animation is gorgeous though, and it's good for a lot of fun and hype.

JoJo's is fucking hilarious and I love the episodes I've seen but man it's loooooong

I don't usually like shonen, it tends to drag and kinda get boring, but I think My Hero Academia is pretty good. Partially because of a bunch of really good characters (All Might and Bakugo come to mind) and also partially because of the fact that it kind of embraced the shonen style at its purest instead of dressing it up as something it's not. It's been very good so far.

>>33424716

no problem!
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>>33424756
Well the reason I like JoJo is because not only was it a nice ride with the anime (and having watched Part 4 AFTER reading it I can say the anime flat out improved it with the acting, Shigechi's death being even sadder animated than in stills), but when I get to things like Parts 7 and 8 the art style just looks so unique and gorgeous I can't help but love it for the art alone.

My interest in things like Kill La Kill and OPM could've probably stemmed from the fact I grew up on DBZ.
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It's not a big deal. Ash looks different every series. This is just a noticeable change, and it was done for the sake of expressive animation. It'll be different in a couple years from now as well, so there's no point in complaining. There were also more changes to Ash besides clothes in each series. In Hoenn, his hair looked softer and went down. Sometimes the size and shape of his eyes are altered, along with where the outlines begin and end. The zig-zags on his cheeks can be rounder in one series while he may not have any indication of sideburns in another. If you compare each Ash, you'll notice some very subtle differences between each one.
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>>33424777

Yeah if you liked OPM, KLK, and DBZ, you're probably going to like TTGL. I'd be pretty comfortable recommending it to you
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>>33424786
Hmmmm really made me think
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>>33424777
>>33424798
Shit yeah, definitely watch TTGL. Like starting tonight. It's such a feelgood series that will get your blood boiling with levels of hype you've never experienced before. It got me out of a bad funk back in 2011. Only problem is that the adrenaline is like an addiction and you'll enter another funk looking for stuff just like it for a period of time. It is the kind of anime that makes you wonder why you didn't watch it earlier because that's how big it'll be in your life for a while. Think of Kill la Kill, but with 5x the budget and zero restraint.

>>33424926
Different =/= Bad
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>>33424963
>Different =/= Bad

Is that what you tell ugly people to make them feel better?
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>>33424979
I'm saying that variety is the spice of life and those who are upset about the style change shouldn't be because it's just going to change again when the next series comes out. That's how it's always been. This idea that the anime adaptations of Pokémon must all be the same is idiotic.
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>>33424963

Seconded, that show has a way of getting to you and inspiring you
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>>33425008
>I'm saying that variety is the spice of life

By that logic nazis are a good thing
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>>33425032
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>>33425032
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>>33424926
Budget cuts.
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I think I just miss sharper features on anime. Everythings too round now a days. I'm too old.
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>>33425032
Why is this board so deeply infested with underage
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>>33425189
Because

>>33420660
>>33420612
>>33420729
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>>33425207
Why the fuck is "hurr it looks like this because it's for kids and they like shit that looks like this" such a go-to excuse? The series managed to survive perfectly fine for 19 years without looking like this, so obviously kids weren't crying over how annoyingly adult it looked, and I bet nobody here did when they were kids either.
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>>33425244

he was speaking as to why there's so many underage posters on the board

because the anime is for kids
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>>33423340
Are you trying to say Dragonball doesn't have an incredibly iconic style to it?
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>>33426371
Toriyama does. Dragonball doesn't look notably different from his other work.
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>>33426413
Well you are correct that Dragonball does look similar to Toriyama's other work, but if you're praising Dragonball's artstyle that means you are in turn praising Toriyama's style.
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>>33426457
That wasn't me.
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