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Daily reminder this is Kartana's Ultra Space The litlle

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Daily reminder this is Kartana's Ultra Space

The litlle orange dot is obviously Kartana, its glowing and moving when you watch the trailer. Kartana is grass Pokemon, this is a grass area with leaves looking like Kartana. Not to mention its a very small Pokemon so GF chose it to show in the trailer because its hard to spot.

Such a chinese forrest area is nowhere to be found in SM or on the USUM map

These people are probably just fallers. Remember how for a while Lusamine and Guzma lived in Nihilego's world? Its possible.

Nihilego is rock so its "space" was a cave, Kartana is grass so its "space" is a forrest

The layout looks also similar to Nihilego's cave: a short corridor with a wider area at the end

Given that we have version exclusive beasts i'd say each game will have 5 Ultra space "corridors"
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>>33340448
"Forget it, Anon. It's Chinatown."
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Dude, you're right, holy shit.
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makes sense because it's not on map

maybe post game is like the portals in oras. each day different ub shows up on there environment
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The Kartana is actually pretty clear in the Japanese trailer. I also wonder why those people would be defending UBs, they are clearly battlers
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My fucking god. This has to be it. It makes so much sense.
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>>33340537
They're either brainwashed fallers or some crazy Kartana followers (like Lusamine). Or maybe they wont like to battle just explain what happened to them
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>>33340537
I just checked the Jap trailer.

Holy shit it is Kartana. Gonna post a pic next post.
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>>33340448
>>33340537
>>33340606
Guys...
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>>33340536
I would imagine we can go and catch them, basically like legends
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>>33340622
Yeah, that's probably the highest quality pic we're gonna get. But look at that. It HAS to be.
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>>33340448
Yes yes yesssssss now this sounds dope. So what would the battlers have as their pokemon? The UB in that space? Or pokemon with similar typings? It might not be much except a straight shot down but the build up to the boss is what's dope
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>>33340448
Also don't forget the leaves are shaped like Kartana. Not to mention the walls in Nihilego's Ultra Space had what appeared to be polyps growing out of them. And the Daisuki Club site mentioned that "Unown and UBs don't lay eggs, could thy be connected?"

Ultra Beasts grow out of the environment from their respective Ultra Spaces. Kartana blooms from foliage, and Nihilego grows out of crystal corals.
>yfw we find Pheromosa cocoons, Xurkitree saplings, Buzzwole nymphs, Celesteela shoots, and a big FUCKING mass of proto-Guzzlord in the other Ultra Spaces
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>>33340622
Those tricky fuckers actually did this since Kartana is so small
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>>33340448
Couldn't it also serve as Celesteela's Ultra Space? GF is so lazy I could actually see UBs with the same number sharing the same Ultra Space.

Also those guys look like Aether Employees with chink hats.
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>>33340638
Worst part is you can only see that it's Kartana for a single goddamn frame. I had to set the video to the highest quality and basically keep clicking right after the shot of Necrozma-Lunala with it still paused. I'm pretty sure I just discovered that with a stroke of luck.
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>>33340637
>Celesteela's Ultra Space is a big open bamboo foresty area with 1600s Japanese architecture
Also,
>proto-Guzzlord
What the hell WOULD Guzzlord's Ultra Space look like?
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>>33340654
>Guzzlord's Ultra Space exists at the center of all other Ultra Spaces
>it's just one big gridlike void, with levitating black orbs everywhere
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>>33340637
>Kartana blooms from foliage
Reminds me of these guys.
http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/47f59d1361edf
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>>33340701
Is this how Android phones are made?
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>>33340537
The natives revere 04 as gods, probably. Between cut anything in one swipe Kartana and sheer gargantuan size Celesteela.
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>>33340704
They're acorn people, dumbass.
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>>33340448
>fallers
Maybe they're actually native to Ultra Space?
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>>33340448
> wow so exciting... ultra space is just a little spot -.- game freak is so lazy, I wanted an ultra space world not a fucking spot, they only did on distortion world
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>>33340747
If there is 5 ultra beasts per game. That's 5 different spots
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Daily reminder that Pokémon Ultra Sun™ and Pokémon Ultra Moon™ will be Ultra Great™!
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>>33340670
I honestly see it as a giant garbage dump, where its stomach is just a wormhole to its own Ultra Space.
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>>33340756
Nice™ Epic® I Love It©
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>>33340747
Who are you quoting?
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>>33340448
So does this mean that in USUM ultra space has been a thing for a while that people have pretty much integrated into their everyday lives rather than a recent discovery?
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>>33340751
i prefer a world to explore
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>>33340773
(Me) when I said this months ago
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>>33340783
Well that's not your getting
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>>33340783
I'm hoping for at least something like Mirage Spots.
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>>33340786
Well, if you unironically typed "-.-" then you must be underage.
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>>33340791
Oh okay :c
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>>33340807
Good boy for understanding
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>>33340774
They could just be fallers.
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>>33340747
Can we stop acting like DW isn't just a long corridor with fuckall in it?
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>>33340828
This desu

Distortion World was cool and all, but it was annoyingly drawn out and tedious to navigate. It could have gotten the point across with less, but Ultra Space could also have used more. Hoping USM strikes a nice in between spot.
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>>33340622
i just went to stopframe the same shot....shit, it's friggin kartana forreal
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>>33340827
how do said fallers survive without food and drink? If the area is a small corridor, it has nothing
>inb4 you can eat leaves
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>>33340846
>>33340622
What time is this on the trailer?
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>>33340448
>>33340827
>>33340851
>>33340729
>fallers
they're clearly from aether
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>>33340828
It had puzzles and was the most unique area in all pokémon. t was interesting the use of the three dimensions to navigate. UB world was an absolute disgrace in SM
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>More Ultra Beast garbage.
Holy shit who cares. Why are they wasting development time on this?
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>>33340622
holy shit
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>>33340928
Gee it's like the whole doesn't revolve around them..
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>>33340928
>why are they giving an important part of the region more of a role
Retard of the day
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>>33340448
Ehhh idk if this is really Ultra Space. I didn't even consider that possibility until I saw this post. Just seemed like a new area in the overworld where you can catch Kartana or something. Doesn't seem extradimensional enough
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>>33340909
kinda agreeing with this anon, distortion world was sweet. ultra space was just lame
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>Pheromosa Ultra Space is Turkey
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>>33340958
Read the fucking thread denialfag
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Thats cool and all allthough its not anything crazy

5 extra small areas for UBs isnt all that much
Not that im disliking it
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>>33340968
none of this is true until confirmed tinfoilhatfag
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>>33340909
US was shit and DW was interesting and unique yes but stop acting like it wasn't a linear corridor where you do nothing but walk and push a rock once every 2 minutes. The only thing it did was looking pretty. There's nothing in it.
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>>33340973
It's at least a bit better than finding them
in the grass, but still pretty lazy.
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>>33340872
00:09
>>33340958
This anon is right though. We DONT know if that's Ultra Space. It can be that in this alt universe, UBs and humanity coexist, and maybe some chinese farmer-looking folks decided to dedicate a forest shrine Ultra Space replica to Kartana, where it now dwells peacefully. Those people are not from Aether, they have a typical chinese outfit and hat, they're a new npc class. Maybe Necrozma's role will be to make UBs go berserk again and attack Alola, who knows.
Of course, it can also BE Ultra Space, but if it really is, then they better have a very good explanation as to how random chinese farmers survive there for all eternity without food/water, and what the fug are they even doing in a small corridor forever
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>>33341006
There could be plenty of explantions for that
Maybe they're not humans but illussions
Maybe humans in Ultra space dont need food
Maybe there is food since this is a forrest
Maybe these people can travel freely between worlds etc
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>>33341014
If they are illusions, sure, I'll take that
> Don't need food in ultra space
Too convenient to ever be a good idea
>There's food since it's a forest
It's a small corridor with nothing but Kartana leaves, so unless you can eat those...but there's still no water
>People can travel freely between worlds
So china has taken over the world forreal, huh?
No, but really, that seems to be too huge of a jump, to be introducing such people already without any logic or lead-up to it. There is the guy in the Haina desert, sure, but we don't even know if he's really a human being or some disguised alien creature (and also, he's just some flavor npc that has nothing to do with the main game canon)
>tldr is that it's more logical for that forest to be a replica in Alola
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>>33341028
This is only a small portion of the forrest, doesnt mean there's no food and water nearby
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>>33341039
If it's really Ultra Space, then it's as big as the Nihilego place, and has zilch.
Mystery files lore explained that US wormholes are each their own thing and there are many of them, which is why the Nihilego one was so small and had nothing but Nihilego(multiple).
By that logic, other US are the same small spaces designated for their respective UB (multiple of them), but as we know with the UB catching spree, some UBs are less in numbers than others, so maybe some have even smaller spaces (nihilego was one of the many-number UBs)
Imean, I'm all for it being ultra space, but I'm saying they better not just asspull whatever we're seeing in that shot
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>>33340936
What attack is Snorlax using?
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>>33341305
Hyper Beam
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>>33341059
I dont see how Chinese people would be on daily basis in Alola though
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>>33340983
You sure dude?
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>>33341840
How not? Alola has 2 asian-themed cities, they could have added different npc classes around Malie or something
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>>33341922
Malie is Japanese themed, they are chinese
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>>33341938
Isn't the other one chinese themed though? Can't remember its name, but the one that Olivia lives in.
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>>33341938
KoniKoni then? That looks Chinese-inspired
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>>33341938
>>33341944
>>33341946
It could technically be an extension of the place where diglett tunnel was, it's near Konikoni, the Chinese-themed city, it's not out of the question that they added chinese-themed trainer classes
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>>33340448
I wanna see Buzzwole's ultra space now.
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>>33342130
Just go to your mothers room then, cuz he loves to suck.
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>>33340592
Remember the idea of an alternate dimension isn't always so alien and fucked up like Ultra Space.I'm thinking that Kartanas Ultra Space is only a slightly different version of the universe the Pokemon games take place in just with small differences.Its entirely possible Kartana is from an ultra space where other ordinary Pokemon and people exist.
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>>33342167
baby kartana's !
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>>33340670
Naw I imagine this big ass planet with massive holes where guzzlords have chewed through the crust of the earth. Magma and shit erewhere
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>>33342251
...I'm actually interested in this concept
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>>33340722
Wew>>33340807
Better prepare for class boy
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so are there cults that worship UBs in USUM?
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>>33342251
What if there are baby forms for the UBs in USUM?
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>>33342308
Aww imagine a baby Guzzlord
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>>33342304
i prefer that idea to humans in ultra space
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>>33342251
>>33342308
>>33342314
Drawthread. Now.
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>>33340622
Is this real?
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>>33340783
That'd mean GF would have to go with the effort of making a few more standard-mon ultra beasts, or some kind "different dimension" versions of already existing Pokemon.
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>>33342400
i remember someone drawing the UBs as in babies formes i remember Guzzlord was Niblord
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>>33341006
>random chinese farmers survive there for all eternity without food/water, and what the fug are they even doing in a small corridor forever

I'd assume that the small space there is just a smaller part of the larger world. Though this post >>33341059 tears that theory down immediately.
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>>33340592
Totem UBs?
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>>33342488
it is real, but we don't know if it's a troll or actual ultra space
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>>33342513
that post is mine too, that's why I say..it seems too much of an asspull if it's the case and why I'd rather it not be ultra space if they can't come up with a coherent explanation
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>>33342522
But what's the source of this clear screen?
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>>33342533
japanese usum trailer, 0:09
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>>33340448
Nice catch OP
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>>33340851
You do know that it's probably "just a hallway" due to game play constraints, right? You kind of have to imagine a somewhat sizable world that allows for basic necessities essential to sustaining (weird UB) life. The designers probably just left most of the world out and focused on the part that mattered to save space or some shit. Come on, think.
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>>33340448

>Ultra Dimensions are all part of the same dimension
>pokemon, people, items and energy have fallen in and out of the Ultra DImensions
>Areas of the U.D. are changed by the things that have fallen into them
>U.B.'s were pokemon that are fallers/possibly native to the U.D.
>The Ultimate Weapon did something to the U.D., changing its structure and causing energy fluctuations
>This in turn causes the creatures in the U.D. to become U.B.'s based on their environment
>This also destroyed much of the U.D., creating the Distortion World
>This explains why the U.D.'s are relatively small, closed off areas. They're closed off sanctuaries floating in the void of the Distortion World
>The people in the U.D.'s are all fallers who survive because of plot
>You enter the distortion world through the purple thing over Poni island, which aside from being more stylized, is identical to the one found on platinums map above Spear Pillar
>greentext
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Wait, ultra wormholes bring the UBs to the world. Ultra Spaces give life to to the UBs from the surroundings. Lusamine wanted to be the mother of all, and mosr importantantly control Lillie. Think about all this, and then go thinking about Freud for a second. This is some next level metaphorical anime Mommy Syndrome, holy shit.
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>>33340651
Mash k while using youtube's 1/4 speed setting instead
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They will be plain corridors won't they, we are probably seeing all that there is, china man is going to be just for exposition and we won't battle him.
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>>33343134
there's a second chinaman down the corridor seen in the jap trailer
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>>33340651
>>33343094
You can go frame by frame with , and ,
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>>33343134
There is a second china man facing the other direction further back that isn't in the english trailer. So at the very least 2 guys will be there, and they are likely trainers as i can't see 2 of the same npc for just a few sentences.
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>>33341059

It's a small space of a larger world, not a tiny pocket dimension, you turd.
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>>33342167

>The reason the UBs are so strong is because they're evolutions
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>>33343637
that's not what mystery files lore says and that's not what we saw at all
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>>33343652

Mystery files lore says basically nothing on the subject
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>>33340448

>Because it's not on map

SM had a lot of inner areas that aren't on the map
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>>33343725
>SM had a lot of inner areas that aren't on the map

Yeah, like Ultra Space
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>>33340448
>>33340654
>>33340670
>>33340751
>even if they're not in Ultra Space, there are now individual locations for the UBs instead of random wild grass spots in towns and cities we've already been to
This is finally something I can get hype to for USUM. It's obvious that its Kartana in the back so it must mean the other UBs will have their own atmospheres.

Xurtree's location is the Kalos Power Plant and we'll get there via wormhole
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>>33343873
kek
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Poketubers already making videos about this
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If only they'd put this much effort and creativity into X and Y.
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Hey Verlisify, fuck you. I know you're reading this you cunt.
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>mfw this entire thread
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If the "you move to alola 1 year later" theory is correct it could also be a new area inside lush forest.

If the whole deal with lusamine happened already by the time you start the game its possible UBs already invaded and are now worshipped as legendaries.
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>>33340448
Can also be the place, where you can cath him in Alola. Dosn´t have to be the Ultra space. Therefor there are to many people.
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>>33344026
If they are they should kill themselves, I hope Youtube out-jews the greedy cunts.
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>>33344196
didnt that theory come from a chinese leak?might be the only credible thing we got desu but as if lazy gf would make actual sequels
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>>33344196
But the characters are younger looking not older, that shit is silly. Unless MOHN never dissappeared and UBs invaded because of the success a year earlier. Makes you wonder where cosmog is and why Necrozma is at the altar. Shit, right, why IS Necrozma at the alter, where the fuck is Nebby? I'm
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>>33340783
Wait for the Ultra Beast spin-off franchise
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>>33344594
the characters would be at most 12, and just cuz their designs have some SM anime-theme going on with them doesnt mean they got younger. That theory was about "what if you moved to Alola 1 year later"
>the games are an alternate story so alternate universe
>not direct sequels
>theory still holds the most water because these changes look like more than your typical third version
>in an alternate universe, 1 year later, anything could have happened differently
I personally think that anon's got a point, that theory seems to be able to explain more things than all those usual bs leeks
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>>33340967
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>>33344594
>characters deaged bc sugimori drew kiddy art of them
this board, lmao
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Hope it means there's still some post game instead of "here have this 5 corridors, so much content, cool huh?"
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>>33340650
This. Especially with 02s sharing types and 04s both based on Japanese culture.
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>>33340448
The vegetation of the place even resembles kartana omg!
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We'll probably get more UBs. Also, we know that Solgaleo and Lunala came out of a portal so is that giant wormhole thing where the legendaries come from and there's no Nebby?
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>>33340990
>linear corridor
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>>33345945
And that's just ONE floor out of like eight or something.
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>>33345945
But anon, just because it's not all in a straight line doesn't mean it isn't linear, according to many Pokefags, considering they refer to gens 5, 6 and 7 as linear corridors all the time :^)
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It's nice to be excited again.
Maybe USUM will be ok
Man I hope so
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>>33345945
Is this loss?
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>>33345945
Anon, you realize there's literally only one path you can take there?
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>>33346462
Uh, no? The distortion world is filled with forks and long dead ends that go nowhere, plus there are three different ways to solve the puzzle.
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>>33346299
It's pretty much guaranteed to be at least ok at this point

The real question is whether or not it's gonna be great
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>>33346559
That's all I'm looking for to be honest.
As long as it's ok then It's all good with me here.
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>>33340928
What else should they do better? At this point all USUM is wasted development.
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Verlisify brought me here.
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>>33346918
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>>33346918
Literally kill yourself.
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>>33346918
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>>33340448
reminder that verlis wears a diaper
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>>33346933
>>33346937
>>33346956

Not lying tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UpOp4LN6r4
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>>33346962
what
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>>33346973
Then you're disappointment plus.
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>>33341916
> Just seemed like a new area in the overworld where you can catch Kartana or something. Doesn't seem extradimensional enough.

You didn't even read my post did you? The point I was making was that it's possible this area isn't in Ultra Space and that it's just a new place where you can catch Kartana somewhere in Alola.
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>>33342564
>You kind of have to imagine a somewhat sizable world that allows for basic necessities essential to sustaining (weird UB) life.
We know literally nothing about the way UBs are born and how they survive. The only thing we know is that Guzzlord eats stuff, and even then we don't know what he can and can't survive on. They could've put literally anything in Ultra Space and no one would question it, because the UBs are just weird by nature. This is probably the shittiest excuse for the lazy way Ultra Space was handled.

>The designers probably just left most of the world out and focused on the part that mattered to save space or some shit.
Good to know Ultra Space got cheaped out on because they needed the megabytes to be able to include Rotomdex's photography app or some shit.
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>>33343887
Celesteela is on the golf course, playing golf with its bamboo shoots
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>>33344196
If Ultra Beasts are canonically referred to as legendaries I will nut.
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>>33340448
wow great, now you can capture the pokemon you already have 4 of in a different environment. woohee! take my money gamefreak
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>>33347042
He was seen wearing a diaper in 2015(?)'s Pokemon World Championship. The same year he got banned for physically hitting someone.
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>>33346918
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>>33347299
So THAT'S why that one guy on Twitter mentioned something about Verlis being blacklisted from some form of official Pokemon shit.
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>>33347299
No. there is no way that actually fucking happened.
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>>33347299
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kill yourself furniggers
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>>33348321
wrong thread, buddy
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>>33346962
Reminder that so does TheKingNappy.
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>>33347294
>yfw they have different abilities since they haven't passsed through the wormholes yet
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>>33348480
The same thing I was thinking early. Maybe those UBs that you catch IN Ultra space have regular abilities instead Beast Boost.
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>>33348421
>TheKingNappy
>nappy
>wears diapers

No clue who that is, but is that supposed to be surprising?
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>>33348497
This has some fun potential.
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>>33340592
>Or maybe they wont like to battle just explain what happened to them

I'm betting on this.
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>>33341006
>and maybe some chinese farmer-looking folks decided to dedicate a forest shrine Ultra Space replica to Kartana

Are there China people in Hawaii?
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>>33348737
Are there walled off Asian towns in Hawaii?
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>>33341305
Gen2 leer
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>>33348759
Was there Asian people in them? I legit don't even remember. SM were some of the most unengaging and least memorable Poke games so I forgot a good amount of small details in it.
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>>33348512
Right?
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Nihilego - Symbiosis
Buzzwole - Stamina
Pheromosa - Speed Boost
Xurkitree - Volt Absorb
Kartana - Hyper Cutter
Celesteela - Flare Boost
Guzzlors - Gluttony

Thoughts?
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>>33348772
there are tons of japanese people in hawaii
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>>33349096
Some huge blood lake for Buzzwole because mosquitos
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So if Kartana and Nihilego have their own Ultra Spaces, I guess that makes them like Daedric Princes with their own planes of Oblivion

Ultra Wormholes can work like Oblivion gates where they pop up all over the region in random or set spots and take us to the new areas, same way Marine Cave and Terra Cave work in Emerald

Celesteela's world can be a Bamboo Forest that's made of Metal, Buzzwole can be a giant infinite Beehive/honeycomb, Guzzlords can be a black hole with the remains of the mountains and cities he's devoured
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>>33349096
>pheremosa
>speed boost
its already fast enough, it can almost anything being #3 in serebii's top 300
>flare boost
seems good, not deserved, since you're mostly going to tank with celesteela.
>stamina
already has great defenses, i could see this fit i suppose.
>hyper cutter
not sure about this one
>gluttony
obvious, but not even that useful.
>symbiosis
why?
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>>33349139
I think you misunderstood anon. Those are the UB's code names
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>>33349170
Wait. Fug. I was the one who fucked up. Sorry for my autism
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People question these chinese NPCs in Ultra Space. Then answer this: why would these NPCs guard Kartana if it was Alola?

Either way i think they're just brainwashed and act as guardians
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>>33350204
I was thinking the same thing.
What if in USUM Tapus are not guardian but UBs does the role of guardians?
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>>33340783
>Exploring
>In anything Gen 6 and onwards
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>>33348737
They're obviously just Chinese-themed like Konikoni is a chinese-themed city..not literal chinese people
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>>33350567
see>>>33344196
it'd all be possible if that 1year later theory holds water, since with that and the games being an alt. universe, they can literally do anything they want
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>>33350809
But they're not freaking cosplayers. Ultra Beasts are weird, its possible that they just kidnapped people from around the world
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>>33343334
or, the easier way to understand it, the < and > buttons without holding shift
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>>33350824
They are just a trainer/NPC class that is Chinese-themed, like Furisode/Kimono girls are obviously themed around Japanese dress
The only thing we know about UBs right now is that they're hostile, not from this world, and are attracted to Fallers because they have the scent of Ultra Space to them, so it reminds them of home
>hence, it's implied that UBs don't wanna stay in the pokemon world
But if these games are an alternate universe where more time has passed before you move to Alola, then it's possible humanity established coexistence with the UBs and they became like some new guardians with shrines dedicated to them
Certainly seems more believable than humans in ultra space , brainwashed or kidnapped for ???????? reasons (and being able to exist there for eternity without food or drink)
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>>33350865
Maybe but im tired of hearing people basically saying like any time passed when it wasnt even implied. Not even once
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>>33350567
Could be something there.
>USUM is potentially an alternate universe
>Clouds covering what appears to be a new island
>"oh shit we have 5 islands now but only 4 Tapus what do we do"
>"we have 5 ultra beasts per game though, let's just use those"
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>>33350865
>Certainly seems more believable than humans in ultra space , brainwashed or kidnapped for ???????? reasons (and being able to exist there for eternity without food or drink)

Pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't Ultra Space literally just another dimension similar to the "Prime" dimension the games take place in, why can't humans just exist there?
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>>33349096
>Hyper Cutter for Kartana
Nope.
In Japanese it means Supepowerful Claws, hence why only Pokemon with Claws or Pincers get it.
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>>33349170
>Pheromosa's code name is Beauty
>get speed boost
Should be Queenly Majestic or smething like that.
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