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Why is this even considered a region? It's got no starters,

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Why is this even considered a region? It's got no starters, no new Pokémon, no Professor, no anything the other main series regions have. So why?
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>>33293608
It's not.
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>>33293608
It's considered a separate region? I thought people just considered it to be part of Kanto.
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>>33293608
Somehow bigger than Alola.
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>>33293615
>>33293633

Unfortunately, it is.
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>>33293608
It's a pseudo-region. They can basically be considered part of Kanto, but them being a chain of small islands far from the mainland (quite a bit further south than Cinnabar is, and given their own map in-game) also means they're not really considered part of Kanto proper.
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>>33293659
That's because Bulbapedia is retarded. We also already have a Bulbapedia hate thread, there's no need for two.
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>>33293659
Bulbapedia is inaccurate unofficial source for information about Pokémon.

They says Mew and other legendaries are Genderless.
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The Kanto Rider Federation is hijacking this thread! (You) belong to us now!
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>>33293659
Try reading the article you faggot.
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Just further proof that FRLG are shit
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>>33294029
Go away Richard, nobody wants you here. Ever.
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>>33293608
Orange Islands game with treecko, chimchar, and squirtle as the starters when? No new mons, maybe some more tropical regional variants and megas.
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>>33294103
Naranja was a fun hack
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>>33293659
Well, I've always considered them a part of Kanto, even tho Seviislanders hate kantonese people, fucking xenophobes, I hope Blaine builds his gym there once the seafoam one explodes.
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>>33293608
Still better than Alola
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QUICK CHOOSE STARTERS AND PROFESSOR FOR THE SEVII ISLANDS
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>>33296122
Celio as professor
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>>33296122
My DICK
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>>33293608
>no new Pokémon
johto mons only appear there
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>>33296131
>>33296122
Because pre-gen 4 there are no three stage fire types, I worked it down to one Pokemon per type per region demonstrating Celio's work to connect the three regions.
Houndour, Psyduck and Shroomish are the starters. Any ideas? Seems comfy desu
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>>33296081
If Sevii is part of Kanto, then that makes Alola the least populated region and the smallest.
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>>33293608
Sevii is something that shit-tasted 13-year-olds will never appreciate.
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>>33296196
>game is based around being an assistant for Cecil
>travel the islands to help start up and repair the Pokecentres
>solve mysteries throughout the island with Bill
>find Celebi in the Pattern Bush/forest
>find Unown in the lost cave
>Birth Island plot
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region
noun
an area or division, especially part of a country or the world having definable characteristics but not always fixed boundaries.
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>>33293608

You could probably say that it's a region within a region.

Region means area, like Kanto is a region of a country, Johto is a region of the same country as is Hoenn and Sinnoh, they're all regions of 1 country.

So Sevii islands is a "region/area" within the Kanto Region, not an actual region of the country, if that makes sense.
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>>33293608
Because having starters, professors & new Pokemon are not requirements to be considered a region
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>>33296477
It's not acknowledge as a different region.
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>>33293608
>>33293659
It's still part of Kanto. Call it outer Kanto if you will or something, but that's just one of the things Bulbapedo claims when it isn't official
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>>33293608
>>>33293608
>>33293615
>>33293633
>>33293659
>>33294029
>>33296081
The actual games call Sevii separate from Kanto, that's why
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>>33297400
dude, it's like how britain is not part of europe even though it technically is
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>>33297409
Nobody says Britan isnt a part of Europe.
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>>33296385
I wanna play this.
And write fanfiction about it
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>>33297414
You don't live in Europe right?
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So, which region do guys want next? I'm honestly wishing China. This is Gansu for example.
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>>33297414
Britain does.
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>>33297508

Another example is Harbin.
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>>33297400
>>33297409
>>33297414
How about China and Taiwan for example? Taiwan is still officially named China, and why Commie China is often referred to as "mainland China"
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>>33297516
European Union =/= the continent of Europe
Do you think Norway and Switzerland aren't European countries either?
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>>33297414
Bong here, we normally refer to Europe being another place and would not normally refer to ourselves as Europeans. Don't know why, it's just how it's always been, not just after brexit.
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>>33297495
Do people actually say that in Europe? Doubt it applies to Sevii though. ALola proves a region doesnt need a pokemon league to be it's own region

>>33297646
Actually, makes sense. You guys do have your own separate money.
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>>33297654
>Actually, makes sense. You guys do have your own separate money.
But a lot of European countries have their own currency.
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>>33297677
But who cares about anything there other than the Pound and the euro?

Dont mind me, I'm just trying to save face for actually forgetting that completely
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>>33297688
I do, as a European, non-EU-member, non-Euro-spender.
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>>33293608
I think they are part of Kanto
>>33297400
Just like Brit calls continental Europe, "Europe".
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>>33297654
>>33297677
The Euro doesn't really count as determining Europe anyway, since it was only introduced in 2000 (2001?), and only had some countries occasionally join the "Euro Zone" in the later years, and I think some even leave.
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>>33297719
I dont think the translators were alluding to that at all though
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>>33297400
Sevii islands were created in 7 days too.
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>>33297799
>comparing legends and myths to scientists discussing PC linkages or people wishing for gangs to leave
memeing or stupid?
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>>33297719
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>>33297820
>it is said.

The myths are true.
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>>33297820
>it is said.

As, I said before. The myths, theories, rumors and legends are true.
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>>33297824
Richard dont start posting my image okay? Thanks. At least I'll know its yours since it's maximized for no reason

>>33297838
>>33297847
oh no
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>>33297824
Again, it's likely the same scenario how European Brits refer to the mainland as Europe, and how the Republic of China, aka Taiwan, refers to Commie China as mainland China.

I think Hawaiians, and I guess Alaskans, do something similar, but I forget what term exactly they use.
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>>33297864
Ok.
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>>33297880

It's possible.
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>>33297646
Scandinavian here, we do the same.
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>>33296122
Celio as the prof, obvs.

I have some ideas for the starters, though.
I've always liked the idea of having not-starter mons as your starter, either pseudo-legendaries to at least feel special (Beldum, Larvitar, Deino as one set for example) or more common 3-stage mons (Geodude, Machop, Abra) since Sevii is just a less-developed offshoot of Kanto, so you get a more modest starting choice.
The latter option would also translate to things like items being rarer and more expensive, the Bike not being available, and other general luxuries reduced or removed. It'd be interesting to play a Sevii region game that's almost Nuzlocke-lite and more unforgiving.

The last idea for Starters would just be "Seviian" gen 1 starters, either;
>Start off normal, like Cubone and Pikachu do in Alola, then the 3rd stage is Seviian with a new subtype e.g. Water/Steel Blastoise, Grass/Fairy Venusaur, Fire/Figh-....something else for Charizard
Or they're completely Seviian from the start like Alolan Geodude line.
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>>33296196
>>33296385
Sounds pretty neato. Not entirely down for the starter choice, mostly cause Houndoom gets a Mega and Golduck is too "bland" a design to be a starter imo

Also I'm fag and I'd like a starter trio that isn't F/W/G.
Could be lame and just make it an Eevee, the excuse being it's an experiment to test how easily pokemon brought in from other regions will adapt to the islands and you're the new field guy so it's given to you.

Either way I'd adore a Sevii game. Are any non-shit roms set there?
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Bit of a longshot, but does anyone have those region flags a bunch of anons made from that thread way back?
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what region would you recommend as the most "fresh/new" to someone who's only played in kanto and sinnoh?
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>>33298860
Unova or Alola
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>>33298915
>Unova
cheers,
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>>33297646
Might as well just say Japan isn't part of asia.
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>>33298697
>Seviian dex is small and a mix of Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn mon but all slightly designs, abilities, movesets, stats, and typings
>Pure water Lotad line, Normal/Flying Dunsparce, Fighting/Dark Mankey line, Rock/Electric Nosepass line, Bug/Dragon Yanma line
I could dig it
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The whole "regions" idea was fucking stupid.
No one refers to places in their home country as "regions". No one.
How do you define a "region"? No one even said the word "Kanto" before they decided to do a sequel to RBY.
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>>33293608
>>33299307
I define a region within the pokemon games as having it's own map

So Sevii is a region, as you cant just scroll down the FRLG Kanto map and see it. But the Battle Zone is part of the SInnoh region, because it's right on the Sinnoh map
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>>33299307
>No one even said the word "Kanto" before they decided to do a sequel to RBY.
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>>33299307
Japan is divided up in regions you retarded burger.
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>>33299307
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantō_region
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>>33299307
The whole "states" idea was fucking stupid.
No one refers to places in their home country as "states". No one.
How do you define a "state"?
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>>33298697
>>33298734
Eevee would be a great choice since Bill is connected to Celio. It could be given to you for that reason, but also they want you to try and get a new Eevee that hasn't been discovered yet because of Bill's fascination with rare Pokemon
It follows you around like in yellow and doesn't want to evolve.
Maybe it could be related to the plot?
>just you and Eevee travelling and solving mysteries in the Sevii Islands
>all those strange areas finally do something
>all that comfy music
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>>33299307
>he didn't play the games in Japanese
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>>33294029
Richard, please die in a pit.
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>>33297489
Me, too, anon. Me, too.
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>>33299307
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>>33297838
>>33297847
Richard, you fucking dipshit thought the sea was made by Kyogre's tears because of some stupid ass sailor and claim the Emerald pokedex entry for Rayquaza to be the only canon one while it is the _only one_ to mention Groudon and Kyogre fighting.
You don't use any logic, you just cherry pick what you like to believe, you fucking autist.
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>>33300220
I always wondered why Kanto was on-the-nose while the other regions just have allusions to real places in their names.
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>>33300243
I don't know?
But Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh are regions in Japan country.
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>>33300243
Because the idea of multiple regions didn't exist in gen 1, so it made sense to just make it take place in a fictional version of Kanto, Japan.
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>>33300227

I don't. I just following canon information from core-series of Pokémon.

The Pokédex is always right about everything.
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>>33300293
You do, as proven by pic related.

Also, how do you go about the huge amount of conflicting information in the series?
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>>33300243
This is Pokémon Earth.
(our Earth)
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>>33300329
Oh, I thought you were saying that I don't believe everything in the Pokédex.

Cause, You said that I pick and choose.
I can't, since everything in the Pokédex is fact, if not then everything in the Pokédex is false.
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>>33300356
Why can't some things be fact and other things be legend? You know, like actual written word.
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>>33300367
Because, the Pokédex only records facts.
It cannot lie.
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>>33300386
Even if we ignore legendary pokemon's dex entries that often depict events that couldn't possibly be observed by a person, just look at regular ghost pokemon entries. A lot of them are told from the perspective of a purely narrative voice, telling stories no one could have possibly observed themselves, like the legends surrounding Phantump and Yamask.
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>>33300386
stop it you pokejew
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>>33300356
You don't. That's why you only take into account the Emerald Pokedex. It is the only one out of all to state that Rayquaza's job is to stop Kyogre and Groudon from fighting.
Also, the "pick and choose" is you choosing some random sailor and his random ass quote about the sea. Do you not see how stupid you look?
Not that an autist would excell in reading comprehension, but this?
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>>33300405
No. Phantump Pokédex entry is a fact.
Everything in the Pokédex is fact.
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>>33300466

But It's true. Kyogre did create the sea, with It's rain tears and etc.
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>>33300468
Ok, answer me:
How can the pokedex for a fact know that Arceus shaped the universe?
Did the pokedex travel back in time to prove this?
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>>33300405
It's true that Yamask originally was a Human.
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>>33300485
>>33300485
Why is it true?
Do you have any explanation on that? Would you be so kind as to explain why what a random sailor has to say regarding the shaping of the sea, which is clearly stated as how he BELIEVED it to happen, is so important?
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>>33300468
Who could have possibly observed and recorded that information? Even if it is true, from an in-universe perspective it's a legend, because there could be no trackable source to this information.
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>>33297400
Eh, doesn't really mean that they're separate. Plus, it's not like it matters, literally no one outside of NPCs in the game consider it to be a different region.
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>>33300498

It's a super-adavace device that records facts about all Pokémon.

If Arceus didn't create the Universe.
Then Groudon create the land.
Kyogre didn't create the sea.
Rayquaza didn't come to ground to stop them from fighting each other.

If 1 Pokédex entry is wrong then everything in the Pokédex is wrong.
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>>33300517

It's not a legend. It's a fact.
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>>33300521
How does it collect those facts?
Does it travel back in time?
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>>33300527
That doesn't answer the question in the slightest.
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>>33300516
It did happen.
Kyogre created the sea.
If Kyogre didn't create the sea.
Then everything in the Pokédex is wrong..
Arceus created the universe with It's 1,000 arms.

Mewtwo body wasn't created by Fuji.
Hoopa can't move one thing to another location using It's loop ring.

Palkia can't control Space and It can't create parallel universes.

Dialga can't control time.
Celebi can't time travel.

If 1 Pokédex entry is wrong then everything in the Pokédex is wrong.
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>>33300243
Gen 1 anime, game, and manga were like the wild west for pokemon universe. They hadn't created the formula yet so things were all over the place and really weird.
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>>33300533
It's a super-advance device.
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>>33300568
Remember how frequently trainers were depicted with whips? And I don't just mean Rockets.
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>>33300563
This doesn't answer the question you stupi fucking piece of American shit.

How does the pokedex collect the information. How does it know that Arceus created the universe if the pokedex itself had to exist prior to the universe to watch Arceus and confirm this.
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>>33300586
Yup, that and how Kanto seemed to have an absurd amount of gyms, they later changed this to Kanto is the land of gyms which I guess works.
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>>33300589
>>33300533
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Encyclopedias have sections about mythology, this means mythology is true, because if one thing in the encyclopedia isn't true, then nothing is, because that's how I decided this works.
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>>33297508
Implying when they do this, it'll be anything but a copy paste of Sinnoh, just with a wall in the middle instead of a mountain.

Uh oh... I think I just confirmed China for Gen 8 to go along with the Gen 4 remakes.
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>>33300686
The Pokédex only records facts about all Pokémon.

Facts are undeniable evidence.
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>>33299470
So does the United States, so does every fucking country. Just because someone else is retarded doesn't mean you aren't and you my friend certainly are.
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>>33300701
are the sm site biographies facts richard
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>>33300692
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>>33300701
>Mega Kangaskhan’s strength derives from the mother’s happiness about her child’s growth. Watching it grow up keeps her spirits high.
>Thanks to Mega Evolution, its child grows. But as the child is good only at fighting and nothing else, its mother feels uneasy about its future.
richard
richard please tell me
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>>33300674
>Records Pokemon data upon sight.
So, does the Pokedex see the fact that Arceus is the creator of the universe? Did it time travel?
How does it work you shitty piece of trash.
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>>33300790
Mega Evolution is a transformation.
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>>33300807

It's super-adavace device that records facts about all Pokémon.

It cannot lie.
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>>33300809
Yes, and?
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If the Pokedex is true, then breeding Yamask does come close to making sense.
If the Pokedex is analogous to encyclopedias and combines facts and folklore, then everything makes complete sense.
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>>33300860
Do you ever wonder if Richard believe that a lot of Yamask are reincarnated eggs that came out and withered away during a period?
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>>33300830
Richard, I know you are an autist and you will not understand this, but the Pokedex is a lie.

"Everything in the Pokedex is a fact."
"The Pokedex is a super-advanced device that records facts about Pokemon."
"All these facts are true."

You see what this is? This is your line of reasoning. It is completely circular. And you wanna know what?
Circular reasoning and the conclusions that can be drawn from it are
ALWAYS
FALSE.
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>>33300830
richard please i want to know whether or not watching her stoned baby grow makes kangaskhan is a happy and hopeful mother
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ITT: Richard gets free (You)s from retards.
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>>33301016
ITT: Alola is a poor man's Sevii Islands.
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>>33293608
I was coming into this thread to argue why I think Sevii is it's own region but it looks like it has moved on to Rochardposting so that's fine.

Plus it seems a couple other people already voiced my arguments anyways
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Okay, so...

Alola is based on Hawaii, which is in the Pacific Islands. But its politically part of USA.
Unova is based on New York.

Therefore Alola and Unova are actually the same region. And so gen 5 really was the best gen.
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>>33301580
No. I think you meant to say that Unova and Alola could be in the same country
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>>33301511

No. Unova and Alola could be in the same country
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