>Following yesterday's leak of CoroCoro, a clearer image

So it was a fancy midday after all? Whew.

Is it a forced evo into dusk then?

Are you saying the only way to evolve Rockruff into Dusk form Lycanroc is through distribtution.

>>33249742

Only the event Rockruff can evolve into Dusk form

Literally Ash-Greninja 2 Furry Boogaloo

>>33249742
yeah we knew that already

I don't think it will be level only-based evo

Maybe this thing will have a stats buff. Fugging bleh.

>>33249753
>No Fire Fang
>No Thunder Fang
>No Sucker Punch.

Welp

>>33249726
Are we sure it isn't obtainable outside of the event, and this Rockruff just evolves into Dusk Form without any special conditions (like it might usually take)?

>>33249753
You sure? Because that's literally the Zorua family syndrome all over again, and I though GF already learned from that little fiasco.

Like >>33249770 says, it literally loses every move it would've loved to exploit with TC, so I guess Midnight Lycanrock will have another pal in PU.

>>33249784
It literally says "Here's how to obtain it: Evolve the special Rockruff being distributed to early adopters"

>>33249784
Who knows. It doesn't say anything other than that it's a "special Rockruff".

>>33249790
You act as if Day isn't PU.

>>33249792
That doesn't really disprove what I said.

>>33249823
It kinda does.

>>33249726
>Day forme during the day
>Night forme at night
>Dusk forme when it's a specific Rockruff that has been sent via the air space in the real world. In-game lore counts for nothing.
Why the fuck are Game Freak so creatively bankrupt I just can't fucking take it anymore.

>>33249805
Huh, my bad. I swear normal Lycanroc got to be NU for a while by being faster.

>>33249792
Does it say it's the only Rockruff that evolves into Dusk or that it's a Rockruff that can evolve into Dusk?

>>33249790
Basically this. I can't accept Gamefreak being this stupid again. There must be a way to get it in game.

>>33249830
I don't get how that means it's impossible to get it normally, this is probably just like the shiny beldum from ORAS. An easy way to get it, but not the only possible way.

>>33249840

Why the fuck else would they distribute a Rockruff

How does /vp/ feel about the anime noticeably influencing the game series again?

>>33249840
It literally says what I said.

Maybe they want you can get Rockruff at the begining.
Remember you can catch Rockruff after the first Totem.

>>33249849

>Torchic event from XY
>Beldum event from ORAS
>Munchlax event from SuMo (which could also be caught on island one, just like Rockruff can)

>>33249860
That would kind of kill the point of the distro.

>>33249840
The only way to answer that would be if it said this was "a way to obtain Dusk" or "the way to obtain Dusk", but "a" and "the" don't exist in Japanese.

>>33249872
>Torchic event from XY

Had the Blazenite, which was otherwise unobtainable in XY.

>Beldum event from ORAS

Was shiny and came with a Metagrossite, which is otherwise unobtainable until postgame.

>Munchlax event from SuMo (which could also be caught on island one, just like Rockruff can)

Had the Snorlium, which is otherwise unobtainable.

>>33249831
It's not "day form during the day, night form during the night," it depends on the versions still. Retarded, I know.

>>33249860
>Following yesterday's leak of CoroCoro, a clearer image has now come showcasing the details of the distribution of a Rockruff that can evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc.

The thing's that this line implies that only this Rockruff can evolve into Dusk Lycanroc

Either that or we're just taking that assumption from granted, but considering GF reputation of doing questionable things, well...

>>33249876
The point is more or less "enjoy this exclusive new feature we added with this even pokemon that might be the only one that can become a true dog!"

So Dusk is impossible to get any other way and specially bred ones are a no go? I'm ok with this.

It could be that the rockruff is holding a "Lycanium Z" or something that they havent revealed yet, and all rockruff in USM can go dusk

>>33249915
A useless Z move exclusive no one will use. Great.

>>33249915
Most likely. They've done "only Pokemon that have this specific event flag can trigger this thing" shit before, but it's only been to access in-game events, never for shit like evolutions.

>>33249915

That's pure denial

Face it, this is an anime tie-in like Ash-Greninja or Hat Pikachu

>>33249937

That didn't stop Pulverizing Pancake, now did it?

>>33249948
It's amusing to watch

>>33249940

You mean like how they locked Ash-Greninja behind the demo?

Battle Bond Greninja is coded as a separate form rather than just another ability for Greninja. Battle Bond has no effect on any other Pokemon, not even another Greninja.

This event Rockruff also likely has a unique forme ID that makes it evolves into Dusk Lycanroc.

>>33249970
At least you can still get Ash-frog through the demo. Here, either you buy the game early and have wifi, or you lose best dog.

>>33249970
There is no unique ID for Rockruff, only for Lycanroc.

>>33249970
That's interesting, I didn't actually know that. But at least in that case they're pretending it's the Ability that makes it different, which means they can easily make the Ability available in later gens and actually have it matter there. You can't trade back to older gens, so only hackers would know they changed anything.

>>33249989

Neither Rockruff nor Lycanroc have IDs for another form in the actual game, the Lycanroc form only had an ID on the PGL

The actual game only has:

Lycanroc (Midday)
Lycanroc-1 (Midnight)

Dusk will be Lycanroc-2.

Since USUM will have to add another ID for Dusk Lycanroc, they can also add a "Rockruff-1" ID for the Rockruff that evolves into it.

>>33249726
So no mysterious light coming from another region where Zygarde lives that is mutating Pokémon?

Maybe there's no wild Rockruff in USUM.

>>33250010
the bottom text is still not shown but i presume that was just shitposting at this point. We cant have nice things

>>33250044
The bottom text is Dusk Form's species/height/weight/type. You can make out the very start of it, but only "Species: Wolf Pokemon" is readable

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official lycandoggo artwork.

>yfw gf put floette-eternal like stats with dusk form

>>33250061
Gee look at that new artwork of day in a different pose

>>33250061
Nice. Looks bland and uninspired.

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>>33250061
so unique

>>33250069
Wouldn't make sense. AZ floette's overall tats are still one point lower than florges. This is gamefreak though.

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Dawn Lycanroc confirmed to not exist then? Since this Rockruff is the "reveal" for Dusk.

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>>33250057
you mean this says that?

>>33250057
It's pure Rock type.
It is 0.5m tall and 9.2 kg.

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>>33250096
Yes. Dawn makes too much sense to actually exist. Fucking gamefreak.

>>33250107
So it's shorter and lighter than both normal Lycanrocs? What?

So since it's event exclusive, odds are it's going to have the best of both Lycanroc's stats at

85/115/75/55/75/112

Hell, it'll probably have even higher stats.

>>33250107
That's Iwanko.

>>33249726
>AZ Floette has +180 to its BST compared to regular Floette along with an exclusive move
>Ash-Lycanroc may receive same treatment
>Also gets Accelrock and Counter

Literally what is the point of the other two forms if this exists and is getting the Ashninja treatment and possibly the AZ Floette treatment?

>>33250099
The top of it does. The bottom is illegible, but seems to be the kind of info on how to obtain the distro they usually toss in fine print under this kind of event announcements.

>>33250107
are you sure that's not about rockruff?...I mean, 0.4m is how tall most starters are , rockruff is probably 0.5

Pretty sure the official website already said you CAN'T catch dusk pupper in the wild, corroborate that with this distribution, it's pretty obvious what the intent is.

>>33250118
:( this will hurt forever
rip midnight wolf paintjob

>>33250096
the other lycanroc is the totem version

>>33250133
Night still has no guard. Day has...uhh...personality?

>>33250084
>>33250061
You know they actually look pretty different in all media that isn't the games.

>>33250096
I thought the pupper on the corocoro cover was actually dawn that would be an exclusive corocoro reveal but nope it's just dusk in different artwork.

>>33250165
yea carrotwolf actually has the mug of midnight wolf moreso than day's ..or well it's some form of a mix..its eyes also look worse than daywolf's
(but that's about it for difference)

Name 1 (one) reason this thing should exist
Pro-tip: You LITERALLY cant

>>33250196
it only exists for the ashnime

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>>33250180

Its eyes also change to Midnight's color sometimes.

well it just says a special rockruff
doesn't say only this rockruff
people thought the starters would have different forms because of "rockruffs surprise"

Ugh you guys are O-VER-RE-ACT-ING

I doesn't look THAT bad. You'll end up liking it once you use it!

If you are REAL Pokéfans you wouldn't complain about this, so shhhh ;)

>>33250061
He has some orange tokī energy emanating around his body? Like Raoh fron HNK series lol

>>33250226
Without night's face, it just looks so angry now.

>>33250244
>Positivity

REEEEEEE! I'D RATHER COMPLAIN WITHOUT FULL INFORMATION!
/s

>>33250165

Too bad only the games matter and that's where they fucked up the most.

>>33250118
>>33250118

You realize it isn't called Dusk in Japanese right? There's no reason for it to have another form.

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>>33250244
Maybe if most fanart didn't do a better job before the thing was even revealed.

>>33250226
yeah for a split second during attack animation
retards didn't even give it the floppy ears...
>>33250244
no. Only way this paintjob would be on my team is if it's somehow not pure rock

>>33250280
Yes I know that.

>it turns out that the Super Speshul Event Rockruff is breedable
>all of its offspring will evolve into Dusk Doggo, too
>it gets all the same egg moves as normal Rockruff
Watch GF not do this and dump the event Rockruff in the No Eggs group with Battle Bond Greninja.

If the anime team designed it that would explain why the design is so fucking bad.

>>33250205
>Midday fits Ash
>But they gave Midnight to Gladion for some reason (probably to hide Null for longer)
>But Olivia needed a Lycanroc also so they gave her Midday
>Didn't want to have Ash have the same Pokemon as Olivia since Ash is so special
> Introduced a Midday reskin and put it in the games
We will probably never see this thing again.

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>Battle bond empowers water shuriken to hit 3 times but for more power
>This form accelerock to be a rock type extremespeed instead of quick attack

>>33250355
>It has priority over every move, including Protect

>>33250355
Tough claws already makes it a rock type extreme speed though short by two points of 80

>>33250352
pretty much spot on
>They gave Gladion midnight cuz it fits his edge
>Null is getting shown in this week's ashnime episode so there goes that
literally no excuse for the shitty carrotdog and midday got shafted to oblivion in the ashnime, so they could not possibly make ash's dog evolve into a bitchwolf

>>33250346

Game Freak designed Ash-Greninja though (this was confirmed in an interview), so they likely designed this form too

>>33250380
What? Extreme Speed is 80 before STAB. Tough Claws Accelrock is 53.

>>33250352
That explains the form's existence but it doesn't explain why it looks so bad.

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>>33250412
...

40
+
stab
=
60
+
TC boost
=
78

>>33250412
Factor STAB into Accelerock.

>>33250429
midnight confirmed yet again for best wolf(picrelated)

>>33250429
>rock type extreme speed
80 + STAB = 120, you idiot.

>>33250138
It is. Rockruff's data is what's visible on the picture, while Dusk Lycanroc is printed just below the cutoff point. That's why people are saying it's not visible.

>>33250461
Close enough

>Ash-Greninja
>Ash-Pikachu
>Ash-Lycanroc
Why all of a sudden did the games start bending over for the Ashnime? Aside from Yellow they were separate until SM.

>>33250565

Well, the anime is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year, and there have always been small references to the anime in the games

Like it or not, the anime is an important part of the franchise.

>>33250565
SM in general panders harder than ever to braindead kiddies. Guess who watches the ashnime?

>>33250565
Because "le ashnime lol xd" is popular and well liked in the only market that actually matters, Japan, no matter what a bunch of spergy burgers think about it and its shitty dub.

>>33250034
I truly hope this is the case

>>33250716

Why? That's even more retarded as it means that if you want Midnight or Midday you can't get them and can only get Sunny Dog.

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>>33249790
>Because that's literally the Zorua family syndrome all over again, and I though GF already learned from that little fiasco.
GF never fucking learns from anything. As long as they can create a false incentive to make people buy shit, they will, even if it hurts the Pokemon brand in the long term. Just remembering how badly they fucked over Zorua and Zoroark still gets me irritated.

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>>33250747
At least Dy and Night aren't affected by this stupidity.

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>>33250747
They literally gave us a Zorua in B2W2 for free. That means someone at least learned something.

>>33250118
Honestly, they should've just called it "Twilight Form". It'd make more sense, because then the name would cover both dawn and dusk, and then there wouldn't be any crazy rumors about a "Dawn Form".
But at the same time, I can see jokes about wolves and twilight coming from a mile away if they went that route.

>>33250756
I still really like Lycanroc Day. I just wish it was better competitively. Keen Eye and Sand Rush are merely okay, but Steadfast is fucking garbage on Lycanroc Day. Why give a Pokemon that's supposed to be fast an ability that's technically only useful if they're slow? What's even the fucking point?

>>33250565
kids loved the jobber frog , he appeared #1 in the popularity list

Serebii updated it

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

>Following yesterday's leak of CoroCoro, a clearer image has now come showcasing the details of the distribution of a Rockruff, which they're listing as a "Special Rockruff" that can evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc.

>"Special Rockruff" that can evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc.

>"Special Rockruff"

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>>33250799
The same reason they didn't give all 3 accelerock and not make it a breedable egg move for the multitude of slow rock types.

>All this whining about Tough Claws and no moves.
Looks like you niggers forgot the obvious: that there be move tutors in the new games.

>>33249726
>The distribution of A rockruff that can
Not
>The distribution of THE rockruff that can

>>33250832
I'm getting flashbacks of the whole "is it gonna be a version locked evolution?" episode back when we knew nothing of the doggos.

>>33250852
And other that Iron Tail and maybe Superpower, doggo's gonna get nuthin'.

>>33250165

>Be me
>Work at GameFreak
>New games to come out
>Look for new Pokemon designs
>Try to use imagination
>Can't think of anything
>Have idea
>Go to Deviantart
>Ctr-S
>"Lycanroc"

>>33249726
>Shitty event only Ash-Greninja 2.0
Rockruff was a mistake.

>>33250061

This thing better not be event only, I want it in a level ball.

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>slowly becoming one of my favorites
>only available through event

this makes me mad because i can't have a nicknamed one with my own OT

>>33250866
At lease one of them should be guaranteed to get fire punch, thunder punch and drain punch.

>>33250890
Just inject lol

If this is true then it dosent make any sense. I mean if people want to buy USUM after January 10th they wont be able to get Dusk form Lycanroc since it can only be obtained by event.

>>33249848
the official website states that Dusk Lycaroc can't be obtained by normal means, and that they will state later on how to specifically obtain it.

>You can't get Dusk Form Lycanroc on your team by ordinary methods, such as discovering the mysterious Pokémon in the wild.
>So check back soon for news on how you can get Dusk Form Lycanroc, along with more details on the upcoming Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon games.

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Here's a thought: what if you can only evolve into Dusk if knowing a certain move, or while holding a certain item? Then that distribution Rockruff would just have those requirements already, which is why it's guaranteed to evolve into Dusk.

Fuck that’s rediculous if it’s event exclusive.

>>33250974

Much better then event only.

>>33250974
Or because its OT is Ash

>>33249726
>just looks like sun lycanroc with more detail

Shit

>>33250991
Having a specific OT has never been an evolution requirement before. Besides, if that were the case, then you'd have every player registering as "Ash" just to get one Pokemon's evolution, and that'd be stupid.

>>33250983
>Then
Literal retard.

>>33251053
Given the stuff GF has been doing, could you honestly rule out that possibility even if it's unlikely?

>>33250355
>it has a unique ability where it's "priority moves" (including both posititve and negative priority) are super charged. Counter now deals back 3x the damage, Protect has a higher chance to sucessfull proc after multiple uses, and Accelrock now deals 2x the damage
it's nice to dream.

>>33250281
>Changing it to red makes it better
>When it's meant to be halfway through turning red and thus is orange

>>33249805
>>33249836
Die Smogon sheep

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>>33251166
Still looks better

>>33251053
Are you by chance autistic?

>>33249726
So it's just a recolor after all and there nothing new on USUM

>>33250244
You're not even reading the thread

People are complaining about it possibly being event-only

>>33250747
What happened to Zorua?

>>33251335

Game Freak wanted Zoroark to be Gen 5's Lucario, but it never achieved the same popularity, so they gave up on it and went back to promoting Lucario

>>33251335
The distro events for the 13th Pokemon movie, the Zoroark/Celebi one, was your choice of a shiny legendary beast (they had minor roles in the movie) as the ticket event and a Celebi as the theater distro event. If you sent these Pokemon to BW once that game got released, you could show one of the beasts to a woman to receive a Zoroark and the Celebi to a boy to receive a Zorua. This was the only way to obtain these Pokemon ingame until B2W2 came out.

>>33249893
The point is, they're event pokemon that eventually become obtainable.

Same shit with dusk form Carrotroc.

It could be possible that it maybe unattainable from regular gameplay. But it maybe able to get it after you beat the main story. Or maybe it could be obtainable in the switch game. People are just going to be farming for dusk Lycanroc.

>>33251395
So Zorua and Zoroark were basically mythical pokemon? That's fucking retarded

>>33251431

They at least had the final boss use a Zoroark so you could ask for it on the G.T.S.

>>33249893
It'll probably have a special Lycanium Z that only works with Carrotroc. Twilight Rockfall!

>>33251431
Yeah, with the exception that you could breed them, so you could easily breed a fuckton and toss them to your friends or trade them on the GTS.

>>33251457
That's actually how I got mine. It was such a fiasco that it ended up being demoted from "look at this rare pokemon with a cool ability" to a random encounter in XY's route 20 and a dexnav poke in ORAS's route 101

>>33251431
More or less, they tried recreating Lucario's immense success without realizing WHY it was so successful.
Lucario had a solid typing, solid stats, a great movepool, a move that also happens to be one of the few Special-based Fighting Moves while being one of the best, a simple means of being obtained, was used by quite a few notable trainers (Maylene, Riley and Cynthia) and was designed specifically to be universally appealing to both West and East.
Meanwhile Zoroark has a mediocre Pure Dark Typing, meh-tier stats, a so-and-so movepool, an ex-signature move that's basically a less-shit Mud Slap, a mediocre gimmick that was ruined by the fact it came in a generation too early, is unobtainable period in B1W1 without Event Pokemon, was only ever used by N and just seems to be a plain ol' furfags wet dream.

>>33251498
I liked how when Pokemon Smash started, they replaced the Lucario fursuit mascot guy from Pokemon Sunday with a Zoroark fursuit dude, then when B2W2 came out they dropped the Zoroark guy and brought the Lucario guy back.

>>33250118
never noticed dusk having those fangs. any significance with those?

>>33251535
Other than being an incredibly minor detail from Midnight, nothing that we know of yet.

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>>33251498
Honestly, I really do like Zoroark, and wish GF would try and do something new with it. I've been experimenting with it to try and make it viable.
Also it turns out Salazzle makes a REALLY good disguise for Zoroark. They both learn Flamethrower and Nasty Plot, a timid Zoroark can match a modest Salazzle's speed, and Zoroark is immune to Psychic, one of Salazzle's weaknesses.

>>33249726
>Box Starter
>Use Dusk instead
Is that the plan

>>33251540

I'm glad I didn't redeem the event one with Sludgebomb until Hyper Training was a thing.

>>33250096
Every language except English calls it Twilight Lycanroc.
You got trolled by shitty translators who went with a name that implies a counterpart when there isn't one.

>>33251498
It was sabotage. Sugimori couldn't stand to let his fursona be usurped.
Either that or a New Coke scheme, which fits with how Lucario made a comeback with the very next games and was outright deified in Gen 6. Gamefreak is lazy, not stupid. The higher ups had to have known that nothing about Zoroark was actually appealing.

>>33251605
The best part is that the following games, ORAS, IMMEDIATELY retcon it to put Lucario down a notch so that it was Fug that Mega'd first instead.

>>33251543
Only if it has my OT

>>33251637

Not entirely, they don't contradict each other

Rayquaza was the first to Mega Evolve historically (as it doesn't require a stone), Lucario was the first human-owned Pokemon to Mega Evolve

>>33249849
The same reason they are distributing 50 potions codes

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fuck

>this Rockruff is forced to evolve into Dusk no matter what
>you can catch and/or breed any Rockruff to evolve into Dusk under determinated circumstances
Guys...

>>33252053
That better be the fucking case after Zoroark's fiasco

It's not even a different Pokemon entirely, that's what's even worse

>>33251701
Magearna and the Munchlax event had your OT.
I think they will do the same thing with this Ruff.

>>33252108

Here's hoping.

...But it won't be able to be shiny.

>>33252053
They're the ones that keep saying that it can't be gotten by any ingame means other than events.

>>33252174
I'm not going to be happy if the shiny is unobtainable.

>>33252221

Well, if you can't get a shiny Ash-Greninja...

>>33252221
I know a shiny hunter who won't be very happy if he can't hunt shiny dusk Lycarrot.
Fucking hell GF why do they suddenly give a fuck about the anime being present in the games?

>>33252306
Because >>33250606
Stay mad.

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>>33252306
Anime's getting more and more popular AND merchandise-friendly in Japan after the Ash-Greninja Stunt, regardless of if that frog jobbed or not.
Hope you enjoy there being an Ash-Something every game, as well as getting a distribution for each and every one of them every single generation because of the marking demanding it!

>>33252306
It's always been present in the games, it's just that it's often been in the form of shit NoA and TPCi can ignore the references to.

And they can do that this time too. The only reason you know this form has any connection to the anime is because you're reading Japanese promo material.

>>33249726
fucking great, make it inaccessible forever why don't you. Better hope you got it the first time around. Why can't we just fucking make it a regular form or some shit.

>>33249753
Actually, I'd argue Greninja was better just from a distribution point of view because you can still download the demo and get it, they didn't really put a time limit on it.

>>33251053
Thing is, OT doesn't just run by name; you also need a certain ID number for you to count as that Trainer. Two Trainers named "Adrian" will not register as the same OT for a Buizel caught by Adrian. The Rockruff could have an exclusive-ID number.

>>33251068
>>33251201
>>33253865
It'll get determined by form ID. Doing it by OT is retarded.

>>33251498
Lucario's success is largely attributed to Lucario and the Mystery of Mew where it debuted. It was hugely popular after the film released as it was seen as a really fucking cool Pokemon because of what it did in the movie and its abilities.

>>33249726
The Stoutland & Litten Story was a mistake.

>>33253865
Pokemon trainers have both a Trainer ID & a secret ID so the game can tell the difference between Jack 12345 (secret ID:16585) & Jack 12345 (secret ID:96046) also every pokemon has a unique PID as well, which determines it's nature, gender, etc

>>33249970
>>33249989
>>33250004
Lycanroc has had an unreleased form since PGL opened and SciresM datamined it. I'm talking literally December or so. We just hadn't had confirmation about it.