>every type has a legendary >EXCEPT POISON >even fucking

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>>33235280
>ultra beasts
>legendaries
You have to be at least 18 to access this site.

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>>33235307
>it's an Anon starts an autistic argument about fucking nothing episode

>>33235307

>Legendary-tier stats
>Major role in the story

>>33235307
>UBs referred to in the game's code as same category as Tapus
>Tapu Koko referred to as a legendary in a promotional event for the distributed Shiny
>that category thus refers to legendaries
>thus UBs are in the category of legendaries
There's not a logical basis.

>>33235307
Game files consider them legendaries. They're grouped with the legendaries in the PokeDex. It's really not that difficult, anon.

>>33235307
The Pokedex considers them minor legendaries, same with Type: Null, Silvally, and the Tapus.

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>>33235307
Define "legendary" in a way that includes all Pokemon officially confirmed to be legendary but excludes the Ultra Beasts, and relies only on objective facts and not subjective opinions.

Protip: you can't.

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>>33235267
>>33235307

>>33235267
Someone hasn't played Vega

>>33235267
I would love some dragon/poison legendary that doesn't look like dogshit like every other poison pokemon.

>>33235307

If UBs aren't legendaries then the the birds, beasts, regis, etc. aren't legendaries either.

>>33235547
Nihilego is a jellyfish made of glass. Glass has no smell.
Checkmate athletes.

Nihilego and Silvally are Poison-type Legendary Pokemon. Arceus is a Poison-type Mythical Pokemon. That's more than "no."

>>33235267
And there's no Dark gym either, what's your point?

Literally the only type in gen2/remake without a gym, as everything else is covered by either a Johto or Kanto gym (not counting fairy cause it didn't exist yet)

>>33235455
Type:Null and Silvally are considered legendaries?

But... they're dogshit

>>33235307
dumb serenaposter

>when you realize Poison would've made more sense for Yveltal than Dark

also Nihilego you ninny

>>33235307
I really have nothing to add, but I just want you to know that you gave me a good chuckle.

>>33236424
green pokedex background.
And would be better with Recover.
theres no good reason they don't ahve it actually, it's an arceus move. they have exclusively things from arceus moveset.

It would even make eviolite typenull pretty cool, thought silvally is irredeemable without drastic changes to how its ability works.

>>33236550
The problem with Silvally is that 95 in everything is kind of shit

Those stats can't excel in any field except maybe tanking, but it has no recovery moves, combine that with the fact that you have to choose between having an item or having an ability and it really can't be salvaged

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>>33236686
For all it is worth Sylvally could work, that bulk is very usable 95 is not quick but not slow either and normal type while no advantages has only 1 weakness which is easy to cover it could work well with the proper moves and thats the problem, the game sell it as a UB Killer and a discount arceus but everything the llama has sylvally lacks like a recovery move, good priority, EQ, the more powerfull elemental coverages it even lacks CM so a special sweeper is out of the picture and with a abilty who only change his type with no boosting whatsoever seals it at the very bottom.

>>33235490
580 BST unevolving unbreedable mon?

>>33235756
The other ones have legend stats though.

>>33235307
I dont see how age is related

>>33236727
Exactly. Like, the real insult to injury is that the ability is actively worse than multitype. Unlike the real thing, It can't use Z crystals or plates to change types, it HAS to be drives that do nothing but change its type.

No plates means it doesn't get the x1.2 boost,
No Z means it can't Z-move either.

So even just swapping the ability for he real deal would be a massive boost.

>>33236748
Articuno has a BST of 580. Nihilego has a BST of 570. Phione is 480. It's fine.

>>33236814
Ok but every single one before the Tapus and UBs were 580. Phione's status has always been debated so it's kind of in a weird position.

>>33235439
>Lucario is a legendary

>>33236877
Phione status isn´t debatable
If GF says is legendary, then is legendary

>>33236736
>>33236748
>Phione
>Zygarde 10%
>Tapus
>Cosmog and Cosmoem

>>33236877
>Ok but every single one before the Tapus and UBs were 580

Every single one before Latias and Latios had no known gender. Every single one before Manaphy couldn't breed. Every single one before Victini was at the end of the regional Pokedex. Every single one before Cosmog couldn't evolve. It's almost as if the company in charge of creating and categorizing the characters can change the rules for those categories any damn time they want. Imagine that. And the Tapus are now officially confirmed to be legendary, so by extension the UBs must be too.

>Phione's status has always been debated

Yeah, by idiots who think error-ridden strategy guides, non-canon spinoff games, and a storage app that thinks fucking Mewtwo isn't legendary are somehow to be trusted over Game Freak themselves.

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>>33235389
>>33235439
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>>33235456
>>33235490
>>33235531
>>33235756
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>>33236452
>>33236697
>>33236773

>They are Pokémon native to a vastly different dimension to the world of the games the Ultra Space, causing them to develop as very strange, and often very strong.
>Implies there's a world full of them
>Legendaries are known to only have one copy, themselves
>This is the equivalent of stating one alien is God on our planet, despite there being a planet(s) full of them
Take your (you)'s and leave.

>>33237335
>>Legendaries are known to only have one copy, themselves
You mean like how there's only one cosmog?

>>33236877
their BST is made out of prime numbers. You literally can't MAKE 580 with that. So they went with as close as possible.

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>>33237335
>This is the equivalent of stating one alien is God on our planet, despite there being a planet(s) full of them

And what exactly is wrong with that?

>>33237346
There is. You go to an alternate dimension to get another. Are you thick?

>>33238806
Just like the UBs? Which means the argument that there's only one of the legendaries, thus the UBs can't be legendaries is false?

>>33238813
Oh you actually didn't play the game. Sorry. Lunala and Solgaleo are Ultra Beasts. Cosmog come from the Ultra-Universe, just like the UBs.

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>>33235307
>Being this stupid
>the games lie to us now
Take this (you)'s, now.

>>33237335
You didn't even read most of those replies lmao most of them weren't even calling you out and you still replied to them

>>33238875
>The games that explicitly say they aren't legendaries

>>33238882
>ignoring the background in the pokedex
>ignoring that one datamine from a time back
Stop it.

>>33238888
Everything is a legendary if you're brave enough.

>>33237335
>Legendaries are known to only have one copy, themselves
There are three Type:Null, Regis in nearly every region, and a smattering of reoccuring, which seem more likely to be separate entities than 1 beast somehow everywhere, especially the birds.

Not even counting anime, where we have 6 genesect, two mewtwo, a colony of Lugia, a family of Lati@s and one owned by Tobias as well as a second darkrai, and a third Latias owned by a Nurse Joy, and two Deoxys.

My rules on it is, if it's not banned from Battle Tree there's definitely more than 1 in in-game universe, they're just super rare. They ban 1-ofs because it's not fair to other trainers. They could go out on a ruin-diving epic quest like you did to go catch themselves a regi to fight your regi, but there's only 1 Reshiram.

>>33238827
Right, and Solgaleo and Lunala are Legendary UltraBeasts.

>>33238888
>Determining what's legendary by the hue of a fucking pokedex entry
This is why we're laughing at you.
Get it, hue? You're still retarded.

>>33238940
See, you're doing that thing retards do called circular logic.

Solgaleo and Lunala can't be legendaries because they are UBs. UBs can't be legendaries because they're a regular species of Pokémon from a different universe and legendaries are unique, one of a kind 'mons from our universe.

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>>33238967
Gonna let you realise your mistake. That is if you even have reading comprehension.

>>33238977
The award for the dumbes comment goes to.

>>33238984
Come on man give me one stupid fucking joke.

>>33238998
The person claiming the opposite thing to the game they never played! Well done anon, how does it feel?

>>33237335
>Legendaries are known to only have one copy, themselves
Why do retards still believe this?

>>33238827
They're the box legendaries. They're referred to as legendaries on multiple locations. Besides, nice backpedal, should've resorted to that in the first place.

>>33238977
Not all UBs are legendary, they're just normal pokemon from an alternate dimension.

But since we have legendaries on our side, it must mean they have legends on their side. Which Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma are obviously members of.

>>33239006
Nice rebuttal. Can I try to match your caliber?
Because it's true.

>>33238882
Where?

>>33239024
Not him, provide one source that proofs there's only one of each.

>>33239006
becuase its tru.e

>>33235280
>legendary
>pokemon

I mean, you fucked up on 2/2 criteria there.

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>>33239018
>If it's on the box it's a legendary
I'll go tell the Kanto starters/Pikachu
>They're referred to as legendaries on multiple occasions
Up until the plot point where it is revealed they are UBs
>>33239019
>Since we have legendaries on our side, it must mean they have legends on their side
I wouldn't say "must mean", but that's a fair point.
>Necrozma
Oh you went and fucking ruined it. Necrozma ISN'T a UB. Play the fucking game.

>>33239050
>>If it's on the box it's a legendary
Not what I said.

>Up until the plot point where it is revealed they are UBs
Bullshit. Besides, official sources still call them legendary, what should you believe otherwise?

>>33239043
UBs are Pokémon from another dimension not just random creatures.

>>33239024
burdun of proof etc.
There's already been multiple posts on why they aren't only one of each legendary.

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>>33237335
>Legendaries have only one copy of themselves
Oh aren't you cute.

>>33239073
What pokemon?

>>33239079
Latias.

>>33239050
>Necrozma ISN'T a UB
PRIME NUMBER BASE STATS AND MOVE LEARNED LEVELS
ALSO HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE COVER ART FOR THE SEQUELS?

Besides, Interpol said classification was uncertain.

>>33239057
>Not what I said
You called them box legendaries as a point in a conversation about wether or not they're legendaries so I'm not sure what else you meant except to imply that the box "legendary" is always a legendary.

>Bullshit
Sorry what? To what? You don't just get to stomp your feet and say no anon. They are called legendaries because in game they think they're Pokémon, then you do the UB questline and learn that UBs are just Pokémon from another dimension, that Solgaleo/Lunala are UBs, hence evolving, and that Necrozma isn't a UB.
>>33239087
>Autism and the box art meme again
>Interpol said classification was uncertain
Because they thought it was a UB. This was before the 100% accurate scanner than finds every single UB in the game, a Faller and Looker (The man who saw it and thought it WAS a UB) all agree conclusively there are no more UBs in alola.
Also not to go full richard but the dex explicitly states "Reminiscent" of the UBs.

>>33239073
So you're saying the dex is 100% accurate 100% of the time and never wrong, is that right Richard?

>>33239103
>so I'm not sure what else you meant except to imply that the box "legendary" is always a legendary.
That they're the box legendaries. Not that all box pokemon are legendaries, just that this time it is.

>Sorry what? To what?
That they specifically start calling them UBs. Besides that again, that doesn't exclude them from being legendaries.
Considering you didn't rebute all my points, I can only guess that you agree that they're legendaries.

>>33239115
>now he's doing the Richard move
You already got BTFO'd, get out of here.
Also
>not knowing how Richard posts
Newfag

>>33239117
What? Sorry your argument is "Aha, I called them box legendaries so I win!"?
They're on the box, that doesn't mean they're legendaries. And once again, they literally do start calling them UBs so I have no fucking idea what more evidence you could need other than the game saying so.

>>33237335
>Lunala and Solgaleo are not legendary

>>33239131
>What? Sorry your argument is "Aha, I called them box legendaries so I win!"?
No.

>And once again, they literally do start calling them UBs so I have no fucking idea what more evidence you could need other than the game saying so.
This is just you saying something without posting a source versus me saying something without a source.

>>33239128
That doesn't rebuke me or answer my question. Are you stating that the dex is 100% accurate and therefor that dex entry 100% confirms there are multiple legendaries of each species?

>>33239145
Yes but the thing you're claiming is wrong, everyone who played the game knows that and you already proved you haven't played the game so you can't possibly know how the conversations go down. What do you want me to do, delete my save, beat the game again and photograph my 3DS because literally 100% of the plot of the game went over your head?

>>33239146
The pokedex is the ONLY piece of info we have regarding these creatures. Unless Masuda himself comes forth and says the pokedex is not 100% correct, it's the hard truth.

Are you genuinely this desperate to pick up a argument you lost a time back? Get out of here now.

>>33239139
What criteria for being legendary do they meet exactly?

>>33239154
>everyone who played the game knows that and you already proved you haven't played the game
I did though. You can't say somebody posting something is "proof", which is why I'm saying your (or my) posts aren't proof.

>What do you want me to do, delete my save, beat the game again and photograph my 3DS because literally 100% of the plot of the game went over your head?
That, or find a screenshot, or to shut up if you don't have proof.

>>33239159
You keep saying "You lost" like that's how arguments work. Your only bit of proof is the thing we're debating. But sure, if you agree with Richard, let's agree to disagree. Because you're as fucking retarded as he is.

>>33239163
>bst is 680
>banned from Battle facilities and Ranked
All you need to know for Legendaries and Mythicals. Sub-Legendaries are the only ones allowed.

>>33239165
So even if the game explicitly states something that everybody who completed it/the post game would have seen, it's false unless you have a screenshot of it? Unless you can find an archive that leaves your idea of canon on incredibly shaky ground.

>>33239174
Can Ash-Greninja or such get in?

>>33239186
>So even if the game explicitly states something that everybody who completed it/the post game would have seen, it's false unless you have a screenshot of it?
No, that's not what I said.

>>33239174
But canonically everyone in Alola except the MC/Looker and co think they're legendary

>>33239200
You're claiming that if I can't prove it, even though it's well known and incredibly obvious it's not true.
I can't prove any of the XY post game either then. Or much, really.

>>33239199
Gren is a anomaly, it's categorizes as a individual in itself in the game's data rather than a form of Greninja and a "technical Mythical, but not" like Eterna Floette.

>>33239222
>You're claiming that if I can't prove it, even though it's well known and incredibly obvious it's not true.
No, I'm fucking not. How many times do I need to repeat this before you get it?

>>33239223
Cool. So that's not criteria exclusive to Legendaries. So find a new criteria.

>>33239232
>That, or find a screenshot, or to shut up if you don't have proof.
You are literally stating that you do not believe a thing you claim to have read yourself if I don't have a screenshot.

>>33239206
SUB-Legendaries, like Lado or Latios or Heatran. Sol/Luna are Box Art Legendaries/"true" Legendaries since Zy and Crozma are also lumped with them. Yes, this is all from the game's data. @ the dataminers that found this.

>>33239235
You're so desperate, it's actually amazing. I already said those are anomalies. What, now all of the sudden Ho-oh or Marshadow or Magearna are not Legendaries? Fuck off.

>>33239154
linking to appropriate moments in a Let's Play will be enough.

>>33239265
I don't think you know what desperate is. Desperate is what you get when someone asks you for ONE thing that is unique to legendaries and true for the Box UBs in SM and you can't think of any.
You said those are anomalies, I say so are Lunala and Solgaleo. They're already anomalies for being "Box legends" that are UBs, for being able to evolve and plenty more
>All of a sudden Ho-oh or Marshadow or Magearna are not legendaries?
Where did I imply that in any way? Those are Legendary/Mythical Pokémon. Not Ultra Beasts.

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this is from Sciresm's twitter

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>>33239269
I'm looking but you're asking an immensely fucking petty thing that could take fucking hours because you're a petty prick who knows he's wrong is just fucking with an autist

>>33239287
Yes, those on the side are Sub-Legendaries (I admit, I'm not sure if this was a fan name or something that was in the game because ever since this info came our, everyone has been using the term).

>>33239251
Green Background VS Gold background.
It's in the dex.

Very visible.

Type:Null, Tapus, and UB are all Subs. Which means likely so too are the birds, regis, etc.

Zygarde, Cosmog, Magearna, Marshadow, and Necrozma are all True. Which means likely so too are Mewtwo, Reshiram, Rayquaza, etc.

>>33239317
Yeah, that's....kinda the point that I was trying to make. Thanks anyway.

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>Is it banned from use in that generation's Battle Facility and isn't an Egg?
If yes, it's a Major Legendary or Mythical.
>does it have a unique Pokedex background color used by Pokemon such as the Tapus?
If yes, it's a Minor Legendary regardless of what the game says, as the internal coding refers to them as Minor Legendaries for convenience's sake.
It doesn't matter if there's multiple of a Minor Legendary's Species, as the only time this rule ever really applies is the Lake Guardians as of right now.

>>33239301
>I'm not sure if this was a fan name or something that was in the game
nigga he linked the code.

>>33239287
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>>33238930
>>33239317
Case in point.

Only things banned from Battle Tree are true legends. Everything else are Sublegends, and can have more than 1 from the same timeline.

>>33239334
Ok, then I'm blind. Fuck me.

>>33239333
>the only time this rule ever really applies is the Lake Guardians as of right now.
they appeared in both DPPl and BW2, so I'd say there's multiple of them. It's the same kind of evidence we have for the birds, regis, and etc.

>>33237335
there are multiple lugia and how else do you explain battle facility users that have legendaries which can also be caught in the same game? checkmate athiests

>>33239333
Code doesn't overwrite in game lore anon. Also you just made a bunch of anomalies like A-Greninja a Major Legend or Mythical

>>33239436
What battle facility has trainers using legends when you can't?

>>33239447
ash grenigger is not banned from the battle tree, only battlespot.

>>33239454
It is

>>33239244
Yes, that's not the same as claiming that if you can't prove it, even though it's well known and incredibly obvious it's not true.

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>>33239466
>Shitposting so hard you accidentally destroy your own argument

>>33239480
What argument did I destroy, and how? I'm not even sure what I'm arguing anymore, so it seems weird that you do.

quality thread

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>>33237346
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>>33238875
>>33238879
>>33238930
>>33239006
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>>33239436
And that is how you garner (You)'s my anons. Thank you, I'll take my leave now.

>>33239464
It isn't though. I used it the other day. Ash-greninja is only banned from online for whatever reason.

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>>33239492
>Shitposting so hard you confess you don't know what your own argument is

>>33239517
Can you just answer the question? At this point I'm just answering questions and clarifying because clearly the dude I was responding to didn't understand my simple English sentences. Maybe because he's retarded or ESL or something.

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>>33239043

So you're saying the creatures you catch and raise in Pokemon are not Pokemon? And that the Pokemon labeled as legendaries aren't actually legendaries?

>>33237335

The pokedex literally states there are multiple Latis. And there are multiple trainers who use the same type of legendary. Holy shit you're stupid.

>>33239436
multiple lugias is anime which follows no rules other than "what do we feel like doing today"

battle facilities are simulations, which if you think about if explains a lot about them.

>>33239522
What question? The question where you admitted you don't actually know what you're talking about? No, I can't answer that. You've been made a fool of an it's time to breath a sigh of relief that you're anonymous and bail out.

>>33239571
>battle facilities are simulations, which if you think about if explains a lot about them.
We're reaching speculation levels that shouldn't even be possible!

>>33239571

>battle facilities are simulations

Nice headcanon. No they're not simulations. Battles in the battle facilities are real like any other battle against another trainer.

>>33239568
The Pokedex literally states that slugma is hotter than the sun Richard, fuck off.
>>33239542
He misunderstood UBs to not be Pokémon. You misunderstood the rest.

>>33239580
>What question?
>>33239492
>What argument did I destroy, and how?
>>33239580
>The question where you admitted you don't actually know what you're talking about?
No, that's the sentence after the question. That's not even a question dumdum.

If you can't, then there's nothing wrong with >>33239466

>>33239504
I dunno what you're bragging about, I responded to your nuisance shitpost with my own clever comedic shitpost.

If anything I feel like I got the best of that deal.

>>33239580
>>33239593
>The question where you admitted you don't actually know what you're talking about?
Also, I knew what I was talking about. I'm just not sure what "argument" you thought I was having.

>>33239542
>UBs are pokemon
>labeled as legendary
wow, wrong twice in one post.

>>33239588
then why do they obey different rules, and have little timmy comfyshorts with Moltres's?

>>33239593
>Using dumdum after explicitly stating you have no idea what you're talking about
>Thinking you can talk about anything after that
Anon YOU already stated the thing that other anons mock you for. You have no idea what you're talking about and you know that. You're just shitposting now.
>>33239599
>I'm not even sure what I'm arguing anymore, so it seems weird that you do
Backpeddle harder. You know you meant what you said. What else could you possibly mean by the latter half of that sentence?

>>33239617
>What else could you possibly mean by the latter half of that sentence?
See >>33239599
>I'm just not sure what "argument" you thought I was having.
It's pretty simple.
But thanks for proving my point by ignoring to answer the question.

>>33239580
>dodging the question to lob more ad hominem

>>33239591
And what's wrong with that? As stated in the rapidash race episode, pokemon can control who their element effects, which is why ponyta don't burn their rider.

>>33239616

Because each facility can make it's own rules? How does having different rules make it a simulation? And usually only veterans or the facility leaders have legendaries.

>>33239616
>and have little timmy comfyshorts with Moltres's?
I mean, the main characters in these games are generally about 10 years old. So I don't see what's so weird about children being able to catch legendaries.

>>33239603

If UBs are not Pokemon why are they included in the Pokedex?

>>33239629
I already adressed that attempt at backpeddling, what did you mean by "it seems weird that you do"?
Why would it be weird that the person you're having a conversation with KNOWS what the conversation was about?
Maybe because you meant you don't know what your point is, so it would be weird that someone you're trying to get it across to would.

>>33239630
I don't know what's sadder, taking multiple attempts at rebuttling a post refering to you STATING YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT or the fact you just refered to the Ashime as canon

>>33239651
>Why would it be weird that the person you're having a conversation with KNOWS what the conversation was about?
That's not weird. It's also not what I said. Conversation =/= argument mate. I knew what I said in those posts, I don't know what "argument" I was having, and neither do you as you've already proven.

>I don't know what's sadder, taking multiple attempts at rebuttling a post refering to you STATING YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT or the fact you just refered to the Ashime as canon
Not me by the way.

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>>33239664
This might actually be the biggest meltdown I've ever seen

>>33239642
okay rules and "types literally don't work that way" are two very different things.

>>33239683
>You're just having a meltdown!
Nice post.

>>33239693
>nice post
sweet reply

>>33239703
Thanks.

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>>33239693
>I don't know what I'm talking about and nu-uh are the three posts all referring to the conversation around me admitting that are me
Keep going, please

>>33239703
cool story bro

>>33239708
I would if I could decipher your post.

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>>33239693
>>33239703
>>33239704
>>33239709
Oh god I broke him

>>33239691

The game literally explains inverse type battles are caused by a psychic dude's powers. It's not a simulation.

>>33239719
Or your own

>>33239721
Nah, I still have like, 3 dollars left.

>>33239721
>Seconds apart
Clearly multiple people.
>>33239731
I can. That's not a factor.

>>33239722
>implying psychics aren't just charlatans
Go back to >>>/x/ and >>>/trash/tulpa

>>33239732
Those 3$ could be going to starving African children instead of buying USUM, you know. Or bickering about legendaries.

>>33239735
>Thinking anyone is that new
Oh come on try.

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This thread is some high quality /vp/ autism. The reason why I hate this board, and the reason why I keep coming back. Good times

>>33239504
>merely pretending

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Alolan Form Mewtwo will be poison type, problem solved

>>33239708
THE LEAKS ARE FAKE
immunity dog plz

>gets verbally castrated by thousands of people
>h-hah...I was trolling...thanks for the y-you's...
lmao

You dumb niggers need debate skill megathreads.

>>33235878

UB-01*