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Why the fuck is it still OU? What purpose does it have now that

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Why the fuck is it still OU?

What purpose does it have now that most UBs are gone?
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>>33224967
keeping them gone
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>>33224967
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sm-ou-viability-ranking-thread.3590726/page-92#post-7452207

Pretty good post regarding Alolan Marowak Viability
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>>33225027
>Joined: Jul 30, 2017
did you make that post?
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It hard checks a lot of mons that are popular right now like Magearna, Tapu Koko, Zapdos, Clefable, Tangrowth, and Mew. It's also the only physical Ghost type that's worth a shit and it can break stall defensive cores decently well.

The UBs were never the full reason why this thing is OU, stop falling for memes.
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>>33224967
Thicc Club on an incredible typing that grants three amazing immunities and great resists like Fairy, Fire and Ice. It even helps your team's consistency by giving you a powerhouse to use against Trick Room teams. Amazing mon overall.
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>>33224967
*breaks your stall team*

heh...nothing personal, kid
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>>33224967
UB's were only a part of what it did.

A-Maro is extremely solid outside of being a check to top tier stuff. It's got a rare typing, with an entirely unique resistance/immunity list, letting it wall really conventional stuff. It pairs well with a lot of pokemon as a result. This makes its' average defenses shine a lot more, which is important for a pokemon designed to facefuck holes in teams. The reason strong "wallbreakers" like Rampardos fail over and over is because they never get a practical chance to do damage. Maro does. A-Maro also has solid coverage.

On top of its' raw base strength, it has supportive capability with WoW and SR, meaning it'll never be in an absolutely useless position when played to its strengths. This overall makes it really good at regaining momentum and putting the opponent on the defensive, if at least for a turn or two.
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>>33224967
>>33225046
This pretty much.
>Koko can't touch it
>Common magearna sets can't touch it
>Magnezone can't touch it
>Common mew sets can't touch it
>Zapdos can't touch it
>Salazzle can't touch it (not that it's OU but still)
>Non-night slash kartana can't touch it
>Non-stone edge bulu can't touch it
>Celesteela or skarmory rarely are fast or offensive enough to touch it
>If tangrowth didn't predict and go for knock off/EQ, it risks a flare blitz if it stays in
>Knock off on any given switch it forces, shadow bone spam on everything else, even greninja
>Bonemerang for the occasional sash
>Good defense lets it survive a pursuit/sucker punch sometimes
>Can't be burnt, switches into w-o-w from mew or even some sableye
Being limited to a single item that makes it good and the SR weakness are the only things holding it back
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>>33225259
This. It's also got a reasonable degree of flexibility.

>Can carry WoW as an alternative for switch punishes
>SR for Defog baits+getting solid mileage against counter switches
>SD as anti stall
>Easy to fit on teams as an anti-meta answer

If it didn't wear itself out so hard with SR weakness, and had Shadow sneak, we'd see it all over the place.
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>>33225259
>Non-stone edge bulu can't touch it
1v1 yes. But if SD'ed on the switch in...
>+2 252 Atk Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola in Grassy Terrain: 271-319 (103.8 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 252 Atk Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola in Grassy Terrain: 271-319 (83.9 - 98.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
A-Wak is a situational check at best.
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>>33225259

>Common mew sets can't touch it

Doesn't Mew carry knock off?

> Celesteela

Automatize +Heavy Slam usually carries Earthquake, doesn't it?
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>>33225435
>Doesn't Mew carry knock off?
Not usually, no.
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>>33225435
>Doesn't Mew carry knock off?
It can't afford to run Knock Off nowadays because it lets Z-Volcarona in for free.

>Automatize +Heavy Slam usually carries Earthquake, doesn't it?
Autotomize Celesteela usually goes full special with Z-Air Slash
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>>33225435
It's been a long time since I saw a celestela that wasn't leechprotect, that's why I said slow defensive variants, like those skarmory that don't run at least brave bird for damage. Otherwise yeah, an EQ celesteela would fall within the variants that can indeed touch marowak.

>>33225366
This is a fair point.
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>>33225041
No.
I made my account during ORAS release hype, but have been using the site since I started competitive Pokemon

Also, why does that matter at all?
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