Almost 5 years ago, a bunch of anons on /vp/ set out to crea

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Demo pokedex.

Also, reminder threads I start do not deserves titles.

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first for font

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Since Pokemon Clover has a TvTropes page, would it be worth it to start a TvTropes page for Sage? At the very least, it'd give me something to do.

>>33186671
Someone triggered?

>>33186727
go for it, my dude

Sage should move development back to /vp/. I miss you, and also being able to casually contribute without committing.

>>33186835
if you can't handle us at our best, you sure as hell don't deserve us at our worst

>>33186727
please don't

>>33186835
it's not really a commitment. nobody does anything ever. you can do a thing and then fuck off and only vote in surveys for a month.

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>>33187012
Ok I guess I'll get around to making a discord account then

I'm starting this game, I choose foliat because I like having flying Pokémon in my teams. What good water / fairy / ground Pokémon recommend?

>>33187253

why is there a purple worm wrapped around his waist?

>>33187380
huh

>>33187286
There are no fairy types

>>33186727
>>33186744
>>33186864
I've thought about it before anon, if you wanna maybe collaborate a bit on it, shoot me an email at [email protected]

Note, I am very busy and likely will be for the next few weeks so I can't commit to too much, but if I have time during a day i'll be happy to help you with stuff

>>33187907
Why?

>>33187933
seriously we don't need that shit, please don't

>>33187907
FUCKING FAIRIES
REEEEEEEE

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We're almost finished filling up all the mons readily available before Cameron. I guess the Water Stone for Bullotus is just hidden too well.

>>33188214
>No turkbro yet
>No Forusk
Give me tomorrow night, 6 NYFVCA, four shots of Kringle Kream, and a fan blowing in my face and you will have your Turkistador and Forusk.

>>33188061
production started before they were introduced

>route 1 normal mons good

pebblosa, hat rat thing, and fawning stomp first gym. no one said?

few comments. devs keep making threads?

>>33189102
yes, until pokemon clover's next update.

>>33186727
Fuck you, no.

>>33189102
Until we 404 without reaching bump limit, yes. This will probably be the last one at this rate.

Can someone remind me what to do when I get to Tremol Town? I saw Seqoiah for a second before she ran off. I stopped playing after that and now I forget what to do.

>>33189283
I'll give you a hint.
What are you missing that all pokemon trainers have?

>>33189309
b-benis?

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Came back to it after a couple days, beat Stella.
Leech Seed Flowger absolutely ruined her team. The only half decent attack I had against Steel was Psybex Double Kick, but I didn't even have to use it because I was able to get a bunch of lucky sleeps with Flowger's Sing and Florabri's Grass Whistle.

My first attempt I got swept by Anvelid, after catching Flowger I didn't even use half my mons.

Looking forward to Cameron.

>>33187286
with foliat, you really only have bowee or pawter or something unless you wait for the good rod. As for ground types, there's minarac, or quibble later on, but you probably don't want more rock weak mons.

>>33189542
You sure have a lot of water and grass types anon.

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>>33189573
What are you talking about anon? I have no such thing.

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>>33189580
You made me laugh anon

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>>33189623
Danks

>>33189283
go back to dacapo

>>33189283
see, this is why the game has dialogue for you to read
you should try it sometime, i hear it's pretty good

>>33189741
Jeeze anon. They said they forgot after taking a break.

>>33189765
The demo hasn't really been out long enough for that to make sense.

I'll try to remember to put this in the survey when I finish the game, and it's possible this was already fixed.

But Shelosene's eye is transparent.

I heard this was the 3-gym beta, but the 3rd gym doesn't seem to, er, work? What am I supposed to do? Did I train up a brand new team member for nothing?

>>33190841
Press A to activate the teleport pads. Afterwards, I realised that this puzzle did work perfectly correctly after warping myself through with cheats.

>>33190841
Same anon here. Reloaded the game and figured out you had to press A on the tiles. It's all good. By the way I have to give you guys credit for a great game you have going here. Can't wait for future updates!

Please play in the showdown server as well. It's very lonely there.

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Anon from earlier with the 3rd gym thing, and I've finished the demo. As I said, I'm really looking forward to the next update! Here's my team for you guys to rate: I like it a lot, but it made the earlygame hell, especially Stella. My favorite team member is definitely Maskoon (Though on the obtainable 'mons post I was extremely disappointed to learn that Mortasque is Bug/Flying; I really dislike having multiple 'mons of the same type so I was hoping for Bug/Ghost), but my favorite that I've seen is probably Glocto. Big fan of Cuppy and Fettlekish too. I'm really impressed and I'm excited for updates and discussion in the future. I'm glad to be involved with both /vp/ fangames at last!

>>33191039
Don't forget to take the feedback survey on the Demo Page!

>>33191049
I was wondering where that was. Thank you!

Why does anyone use minarac to fight the first gym? Sure, it'll pick up later and is fine in the forest, but foster beats it easily.

>>33191541
I don't think anyone does? The prime contenders against Foster are Thick Fat Capig with Rollout, Double Kick Fawning, Arm Thrust Iguadium and Kidling or Pyroat.

>>33186694
holy shit did you guys FINALLY trim the fat from the dex? It looks like you still kept some of the arbitrary furfag shit but still a much needed debulking. nice job

>>33191657
Those are only the pokemon that are in the demo
It doesn't even include most of the cool designs at all

How does the pokegear rematch function work? It's going really slow rn, it used to recharge a lot faster.
What triggers it

>>33191717
Also the blackbelt in the observatory has a broken rematch, never works

>>33191726
Should work if you patch your game.

>>33191799
how you do that shit

>>33191805
>>33191805
Literally just download the new version and run that instead.

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Show me your best loli sprite, sagefags. Your pokemon are pretty okay but a patrician needs more.

>>33191717
They don't need to call you to be ready. It's actually programmed so most don't call you so you don't get overwhelmed with them. All you need is the little icon in the phone app. I don't remember the exact values we use for times between rematches, essentials defaults are randomly between 8 and 16 minutes. I can tell you that it takes longer to battle all the rematches in the game than it does for your first rematch to renew. So you can basically infinitely cycle through them. Rematches are initiated after Stella and then again after Cameron. There may be one more round but my memory is hazy. Until you reach the next upgrade point you can infinitely rematch a trainer and they will have the same team.

Why does Basilect look like a Dragonite got into a teleporter accident with a beetle
Who is it that thought we needed more pokemon visually inspired by Barney

god will you just fuck off already

>>33192518
The same notaste plebs who like dragonite. For some reason Basilect is pretty popular.
Just use any of the superior dragons.

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In general I like the look of the dex. In my opinion there's a tad too much furshit though. There should be more gardevoir/lilligant types, less blaziken/lucario types.

>>33193052
I've always wanted a bug dragon and this just really chaps my ass

>>33188214
Working on Forusk and Phantasmare. But goddamn, coltergeist is a nightmare to level, I might not be able to do both.

>>33193245
>In my opinion there's a tad too much furshit though
>There should be more of the pokemon I want to fug and less of the ones other people want to fug

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>>33193328
Well, yes. Exactly.

>>33193357
Potential for porn notwithstanding, cool>cute>>>>>"beautiful"

>>33189889
Stop being overly defensive about your game, I wasn't critiquing it. I legitimately just forgot, but figured it out before reading the replies here. The devs being so overly sensitive makes me want to play it less, though.

>>33193397
Fair enough

>>33193428
desu, i don't think that was a dev

>>33193460
apparently 8ch doesn't like "to be honest" anymore
i dunno when that shit happened

>>33186694
>tfw all of these are better than Alolamons

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>>33193428
Sup you smarmy cunt?

>>33193568
The demo has a lot of the trashmons from the full dex, the few alolamons that don't have shit designs are at least better than most of those

>>33193568
Not a high bar desu

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>>33186671
>5 Years
>3 Gyms
Some of the pokemon are pretty cool, but why would I play it? It seems never going to get finished..

>>33194183
Half of that time was spent ideaguying
It'll be done by 2021, at the earliest

>>33194183
to enjoy even more your life

>>33193397
cool in an elegant way > cute > beautiful >>>>>> "badass"

>>33194483
You're gonna need to define that a bit
Edgy is obviously bad, but lots of cool mons aren't exactly "elegant"

I also think popularity has an impact, like I used to genuinely like gardevoir and lucario before they became furfag memes

>>33194567
Elegantly cool is stuff like Royjibiv and Floressum, things people with developed taste would think are cool.
"Badass" cool is stuff like Dilophlora and Auguanaut, things 6 year old boys would think are cool.
Cool is a vague word though, there are many other kinds of cool mons.

>popularity has an impact
Don't let losers change your taste. Lucario has always been stupid though.

>>33194674
>Floressum is cool
Oh
You're one of those

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>>33194742
You talking shit about bestbirb?

>>33194773
While better than most, it's still just another entry in the long pokemon tradition of low energy grass starters

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Favorite Sagemon? Mine's Musbushel.

>>33194880
There are so many good ones, but I think my favorite is Phlask
Great concept, and so coot

I also really like at least the art for space form Quetzar though it would be better if it was one of those mons that changed form mid-battle, because that's just a great way to make something stand out and even gamefreak realized that

>>33194880
>Muh Sawsbuck

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>>33194880
See Mushburry is pretty much the only grass line in the dex that I'm not fussed on. Pretty cool that taste can be so different across a fakemon dex though

Hard to say my favourite, but I think I'll go with pic related because it's so damn weird
Close runners up include Floressum, Cerebrulb & Mawasite

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>>33195062
>See Mushburry is pretty much the only grass line in the dex that I'm not fussed on
A damn shame, there are a good number of quality single designs, but that rarely ever carries over to the evolutions

Holy hell I just realized, because of the type-based evolution animation you can see which split evo you're getting and cancel it.
That's awesome.

>>33195062
Try using Musbushel in the demo, he'll become your nigga in no time.

>>33195471
Unfortunately Foliat was my starter & no way that I was swapping that out. Probably would have ended up using Alpint, Peppit or Growmeo/Tuliep over it anyway as I love those guys (didn't really care for Alpint until I saw its sprite & suddenly loved the guy - this actually happened with quite a few sagemons)

Shout out to my unexpected bro Taomarin for being the most insanely lucky fucker with Acupressures, Detect predicts, sleep wakeups, Secret Power status effects, evasion, crits, & general RNG shenanigans over the course of the demo. Combined with Content it saved my nubile ass on a ho-load of occasions

>>33194880
Glocto is gorgeous I want one so bad

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>>33186723
missing artisnt name

>>33195562
This. I couldn't fit it in on my first run. But my second run I used Kidling and I learned it was fantastic.

That, and I spammed it on the showdown simulator to surprisingly great effect. Harvest is a mother fucker.

>>33195717
*artist
fuck

>>33195731
sega does what artisnt

>>33191799
>>33191726
Patched it, on 2.04, stil aint fuckin workin

>>33196346
Can you describe how it's not working? What happens? I remember this being fixed before 2.0 even came out.

>>33196504
I have the question mark, the one rematch, again just for the blackbelt. When i talk to him, he mentions how the mountains are eire, and no rematch

Is there a way to get all three starters legit ingame? Just wondering.

>>33196882
There will be in the full version

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>>33194880
>>33194967
>>33194976
>>33195062
>>33195125
>>33195710
>not filling out a chart

>>33189542
Checklist Guy here. Can you try to get Bullotus? There is a Water Stone in the demo. I'll keep my mouth shut for now if you want to try and find it on your own. Although, I'll say you should use your item finder.

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>>33197374
Actually might as well post the version with gf mons too

>>33197377
I have item finder hotkey'd and I press it occasionally, if I find it I'll tell you.
Funnily Psybex and Fortifry are my other 2 main team members, so I might get you their evos eventually if no one else does.

Is it the game that's slow or is my computer just a piece of shit?

>>33198457
post specs?

>>33198457
Probably both. The game runs fine on good computers, but the threshold for "good" seems to be a lot higher than you'd expect for a tile-based game that only loads a relatively small area at a time.

>>33198457
>>33198475
>>33198601
The game is slow. My computer can run Citra just fine but kills itself easily on essentials

>>33198607
Well, that's still more an issue of his computer not being able to run it well then the game itself just animating at a lower framerate, and even then it's the engine, not the game

>>33190859
please play the game legit

Things would probably run better if the game actually rendered at 256x192. Hopefully when they fix the mixels it speeds up the game as well.

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>>33198711
I was in the sage threads when the Adante gym walkthrough webm was posted and so I immediately assumed that they activated when you walked on them. I'm a retard.

>>33198711
>>33198771
It is pretty unclear, Carlos should probably tell you how to work them as part of him saying the gym is water type

>>33198719
The lowest resolution opttion is the native resolution the game assets are at

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>tfw got Hidden Power that was Super-Effective to Ice
I know it's not Fighting so it's either Steel, Rock, or Fire

>>33198844
Fire would be really nice, especially for Stella.

Tell me more about Pokéman. Why does he wear the mask?

>>33199326
So no one knows his secret identity as lol I dunno

>>33198601
My computer is a toaster and runs it fine. The engine is completely CPU dependent, but it seems it's also certain CPUs work better regardless of strength.

>>33199353
His secret identity is actually the evil team leader.

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>>33199822
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHATTTTT

>>33197374
Well I haven't seen the entire dex, I just played the demo when I saw it.

>>33199326
I totally forgot that Pokeman existed

>>33186671
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I, SAGE, THE PROCRASTINATING MASTER OF ELITISM, UNLEASHED AN UNFINISHED GAME.
BUT, A FOOLISH ROMHACKER WIELDING FIRERED STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME.
BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, I TORE OPEN A LINK TO A NEW DEMO AND FLUNG HIM INTO MY GAME, WHERE NO FAIRY TYPES EXIST.
NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO /vp/ AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS SAGE'S DEMOS.

So it's impossible to get a Dreamdery with prankster or a Macabra with psych out in this demo, right?

>>33199824
>>33199822
Oh yeah, that's an actual spoiler, don't mouse-over unless you're okay with that.

>>33200104
But I thought Pokéman was your dad

>>33200139
Nope, your dad, like your mom, is a relatively unimportant character. But he will tell you he's proud of you, once you beat all the gyms.

Another actual spoiler, but a small one this time.

>>33199822
Obvious in retrospect. The scene where you meet him doesn't make any sense otherwise. I have higher hopes for the plot now though, the way the survey was worded I thought it was someone else entirely.

>>33200226
Well it's also someone else. The Urobos region never issued an ID card that said "pokeman" or evil team leader on it, after all.

>>33200264
>>33200226
>>33200104
>>33199824
>people actually fell for this

he's not the ETL

>>33199353
inb4 he's the Champion

>>33197377
Item finder..??? Where's that

>>33200383
you get it from the curator after helping him as part of the main demo plot

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>Implying its a spoiler

Come the fuck on guys. ETL is Thrasa or whatever the bitches name is. Shes the head of a prominent manufacturing company, and she just so conviniently shows up at the museum when it gets raided. Can anyone say Cyrus-syndrome? You can see it from a mile away.

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>>33200393
Alright you fuck i have it but its broken. Right here its going off but no item.
Also, still cant rematch the blackbelt.. yes i have 2.0.4.. Fuck this broken game.

>>33200631
Regardless, doing good, gonna finish the mons that you can get. Also have 21 rare candies from pick up, a pebolosla at level 42 so i count those three mons also done, just waiting to do them last as to get the most out of pickup

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Just beat the demo and loved every single moment of it. Can I just say, whoever is doiung the B/W2 soundfont compositions? KEEP HIM. His or her work is absolutely legendary.

This battle theme literally rocketed to the top of my favorite Evil team themes, even though its unofficial, Like holy fuck this music is good. Keep doing this and you've got my vote hands down.

https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/pokemon-sage-evil-team-1?in=mathias-kristoffersen-2/sets/music-for-3rd-demo

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>>33200690
Forgot the pic

>>33200691
O-oh my. Thank you, anon.
I'm not too focused on Sage nowadays, I have other projects to work on, but when I occasionally come up with an idea I make it right away.

>>33200729
Seriously. You're what this project needs. I love a lot of the music in the game but the B/W2 soundfont tracks really fit while some of the others feel a tad off-key. But that Aurum theme man, I already liked the Concept of Team Aurum when they were conceptualized, but that music really brings it home for me.

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It really and seriously brings a tear to my eye to see this project coming together so smoothly after so many years. Back when we were /vpmagg/ I helped out with tons of the prelim sprites mapping and a bunch of pokemon concepts, so to see this actually become a thing means a lot to me. I'm sad my life is so booked that I can't drop eevrything and jump right back in to help you guys, but at the same time I'm so glad to see such a competent team carrying out that vision for all us oldfags. Keep up the stellar work crew, I seriously can't wait to see what you do with Vivace and Shadinni. I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation! I am seriously excited for sage more than any mainline pokemon game post 6.

>>33200783
Join in anyways, you dont have to necessarily dedicate a ton of time to it, just help out when you can!

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>>33200803
Thats a really great and tempting offer, but ike I've said my schedule is booked these days with other company projects. If I could take some time off i'd love to pop in though. But I feel I've contributed enough over the years as is, most of my pitches back in the hay days actually stuck with the voting process and became the basis for most of sage, The stone-bronze-industrial; age pokemon became the basis for the golems, Jelly-lady/moon Jelly waifu eventually became yaccuma, The concept for a cirque du soleil gym leader became Shaddini, Heck the only thing that stayed true throughout was my darling chillnobyl. But all the aimprovements really made me happy to see it all get submited. I've played the whole demo from start to finish, I'm not worried about the writing at all because from what I can see you guys definitely have a handle on it. I wish you best of luck and can't wait to see the final product!

>>33200907
Post discord

>>33200934
Oh alright fine,

#4450

>>33200691
the ET theme is great but IMO it's way worse then previous versions of it used to be

some (but not all) of the older versions, for comparison:

https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/pokemon-sage-evil-team
https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/pokemon-sage-evil-team-battle

>>33200729
>I have other projects to work on
Like what?

>>33200954
I like both of those, but I still like the final most (I love plasma, so) But the second one is definitely good too, a bit high pitched.

>>33200983
I've got a paid gig doing sprites for someone else's game.

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What in rogue nation?

>>33201310
PS that updated water pulse animation is SEXY

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>>33201319
it's better then the old one for sure but it's still nowhere near as good as gf's gen 4 move animations or even the other custom sage ones

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>>33201328
Also daddy likey

how is the music/region?

I'm guessing it's shit

>>33201351
>>33200954

>>33201337
Also just a point of feedback, I would up the levels of wild mons in the swamp

PLEASE TONE DOWN THE ENCOUNTER RATE

I love the game but my god running into a pokemon every two steps when trying to progress is frustrating.

>>33201351
>I'm guessing it's shit
IMO its the most interesting region in any pokemon game because it tries to be different. The places are max comfy and the routes aren't all just -path to next town- Also, I'm getting such an Orre vibe from legato cross roads

>>33201375
put it in the feedback survey, though asking for repels to be available to the player earlier might be a more realistic option

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>>33201375
>>33201404
Repels are shit, turn down the fucking encounter rate.

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>>33201416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYsMjEeEg4g

>>33201404
>Asking for repels
Thats not the issue. People want to be able to still grind for exp along the road, but if something takes out your pokemon and you need to go back, you end up fighting 5-6 times more pokemon on the way back and get wiped out. It should be balanced to at least every 3-4 steps, because I sear i take one step and theres another pokemon battle

>>33201424
put it in the feedback survey then, devs already said posting about stuff here is less likely to be considered then there

Idea: Depth charge should hit underground/diving targets.

It would make cameron far more challenging for those going with trenchula

>>33201451
>Adding more shit to Depth Charge
You monster

>>33201483
Its literally called "Depth" charge. I expected it to do that the first time it was used on me to counter me and disappointed it didnt

>>33201401
Speaking of Orre, the lack of desert and abundance of every fucking thing else makes me very butt angery

>>33201497
>Deserts in south america

>>33201451
it does hit diving foes

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>oh boy, a demo of Sage!
>I used to love those threads!
>*downloads demo*
>Here we go, time to start a new adventure!
>*opens folder*
>Sage.EXE
>.EXE
>.EXE
>.EXE

FUCK. YOU.

>>33201423
What did the Pawter kid say to you when you tried to get in there? That area's not supposed to be accessible.

>>33201514
Whats the problem?

>>33201501
I know, but deserts are my favorite environment and with Somberado I was expecting a bit of mexico, not just one inexplicable american wild west town in a forested plain

>>33201525
I HAVE A MAC.
I'm actually crying right now.
WHY would you make this unavailable for 50 PERCENT OF USERS

>>33198811
>The lowest resolution opttion is the native resolution the game assets are at
Not all of them. The shadows in the forest, the HP bars, many move effects, etc. are whatever resolution you have it set to. The assets are just scaled up, while instead your computer should just zoom in.

>>33201538
>50%
Good joke, but seriously RPGM has mac cupport so no idea what you're on about.

>>33201516
Since I beat Cameron I can go forward now!

>>33201538
>macfags
>50 percent of users
>Of a fan made video game
You're a funny guy

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>>33201497
>>33201537
the entire southeast section of the region is dry tropics and desert.

>>33201501
The world's driest desert is in south america you bozo

>>33201538
>>33201514
It works via wine

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>>33201538
Playing on a mac is not that much of a problem friend

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>>33201563
That's actually a really good chunk of desert
Yes
YES

>>33201589
That's after they nerfed the size by the way. It used to be 30% bigger.

>>33201501
>what is the Atacama

So I'm having serious framerate issues specially on the overworld, which I suppose it's normal on this stage of development.
But I'd still like to know if it's really due to optimization problems or am I the only one suffering from this, because I never saw anyone mentioning it.

>>33201626
it can be slow at times, but thats due to omptimization on RPGMakers part.

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>>33201606
Oh no, that's bad

>>33201626
The entire game ran like chunky peanut butter for me, but I assumed that was because I was using a shitty laptop and always have like 30 browser tabs open

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>>33201626
>>33201657
Depends on your computer.

On a netbook I tried to run it on frm the mid 2000's it was very stuttery and ran at a lower framerate

>>33201639
Each one of those grid spaces is 30 tiles, it's still huge

here's how it used to be, compared to hoenn

>>33201657
>>33201675
>The entire game ran like chunky peanut butter for me
Yeah, this was the experience for me. Most of the overworld was "jerky" as fuck. I do have a toaster and it's not the first time I've seen rpgmaker games running a bit slow on my piece of shit, but it's the first time I've had a game of this kind stutter so much.

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>>33201675

>>33201675
What were the reasons behind toning down the longest parts?

>>33201722
It was fucking huge. At its original size, the desert was more than twice as long as Seabreak Path, both horizontally and vertically.

>>33201741
Yeah but I mean. Did you reach the conclusion that it was too big to be balanced even for a full 6-mon party?
Or was a resources and time-consuming matter?
Both are understandable, but I'm curious about the thought process.

>>33201749
It would be a balancing and pacing nightmare and it'd be a tedious mess to get through the routes.

Swamp is really underwhelming. Seeing more flowger and platypow makes sense here as opposed to route 9. But the trainers are few and far between, we can't fish in the swamp, and the items were lackluster. This would have been the perfect spot for a leaf stone or water stone and having the final gift be venoshock is a let down. On top of that, please stop with all of the X-items. No one uses them. To have them in such abundance is a waste honestly.

All in all, major thoughts for distribution.
>Route 9: Remove Platypow and replace with Chardinite. Better place here for it and Route 10.
>Swamp: You need another mon here. It will get dull fast otherwise. Consider more swamp/marsh pokemon here.

>>33201823
The marsh wasn't supposed to be added, but add all that to feedback anyways.

What did you weebs do with this gay undertale reference and why wont it let me get the item from the fountain?

>>33201838
I've already submitted feedback guys. Like sent the final survey in.

>>33201847
You can take the feedback survey multiple times for this exact reason

>>33201823
Emily fucked up. It's not supposed to be in 2.0.
It's an unfinished area.

>>33201855
So you're telling me you want me to fill out that whole fucking thing again for the sole point of the swamp?

>>33201838
>>33201861
The swamp will be added before Cameron for futures version, right?

>>33201861
I know

>>33201865
Addendum: You're not going to listen to one bit of feedback on it if I'm the only person who comments on it so what's the point of me submitting feedback for it?

>>33201865
>>33201872
You don't need to redo every question, just put your marsh comments in whatever section is appriproate and leave everything else blank or put in "already took"

>Addendum: You're not going to listen to one bit of feedback on it if I'm the only person who comments on it so what's the point of me submitting feedback for it?

What a stupid thought process. Why did you take it the first time then? Even if you are the only one who comments on the area, your suggestions will still get consideration to some degree or another, especially if people happen to agree

>>33201882
I'm saying that if I'm the only person who is going to actually give feedback on the swamp, and I know for a fact that most of my feedback will be ignored because this song and pony show has been done before, then what's the point in even bugging me to submit feedback for a route that you are detesting as unfinished?

There's a hobbit going blech to my suggestions, the idea of changing route distros is widely unpopular due to the group running the show, and I have no idea how receptive you are to item suggestions.

>>33201749
None of those, but nobody thought it would be fun to have to trudge through so much of the same shit.

>>33201914
You should do it because it would take all of a few minutes just to type out what you did in your comment there in the survey and I am telling you your suggestions will get more consideration then you think.

Yes, pokemon re-distros are a bit of an ordeal, but it can happen based on feedback/suggestion/even just devs changing minds. It's happened before: Route 5 originally didn't have coltergeists and were voted against, but a few days later even after it was locked minds were changed and it got re-addmitted., Item stuff especially nobody really cares much about so as long as 1 person on the dev team agrees with you everybody else will just go "yeah sure fine" to it.

That being said, I can't think of another new mon to put there that would fit: what do you have in mind?

>>33201984
Totter for one. Loneleaf might also work if you have a deeper swamp area. Could also try Drosire or Thoraxe. Slatic would fit here as well. If you really want a stretch, Magowl at night, especially if there's a deeper swamp and it might work on a "reclusive hermit mage" kind of idea.

Personally, I'd throw pueblant here because it's the perfect place for termites, but the typing doesn't fit the mon.

>>33202034
doesn't fit the route****

>>33202034
>totter
Isn't going to be found on land, and i'd argue the water is too murkey/unclean for it, personally

>loneleaf
I and I imagine others want it as a jungle mon

>Drosire
Could work, but I personally want it as a jungle only mon. I think this is your strongest bet though.

>Thoraxe
Possible, but I feel it's too early game for it.

>Slatic
Explain pls

>Magowl
People want Magowl and Burrowl to be found in the same locations. I think that's dumb and wanted magowl at the observatory but that's where things are.

>>33199822
thanks anon; 5 years ruined.

>>33202080
Otters live in swamps.

>Magowl and Burrowl in the same place
That's fucking retarded.

The only reason people see Loneleaf as a jungle mon is because of the Shaman. End of story.

Slatic is a chameleon. There are lots of insects in the swamp. It being a warmer atmosphere, makes sense you could find a reptile here.

This is pre-gym 4. Thoraxe is not too early here. Plus it's a decent bug option for the dark gym leader that comes next.

Drosire is based on a sundew which grow in poor nutrient soil, like a swamp. They're insectivores in real life. Think back to Carnivine.

>>33202125
>That's fucking retarded.

I agree and I argued vehemently against it back in the day but that was what people wanted.

>Drosire is based on a sundew which grow in poor nutrient soil, like a swamp. They're insectivores in real life. Think back to Carnivine.

I'm aware

>>33202125
The shaman is entirely enough reason though.

>>33202145
Honestly, drosire not being in the swamp is dumb. Putting it in the jungle is a stretch, but not beyond credibility. Leaving it out of the swamp makes no sense at all.

>>33202277
I mean, the start of route 22 is a jungle swamp, so it'll be there for sure. Route 11 was supposed to be more of a flat bog/marsh but got more swapish elements over time.

>>33202335
You can't put half the dex in the jungle and the desert. Come on man.

>>33202357
Well half the region is jungle and desert so

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>>33202357
well, this isn't official at all (aside from the mons in color for 2.0 routes), but this shows one opinion somebody had that I think is mostly on point

>>33202371
Where's Berratel?

>>33202371
>Boarealis not confirmed in the area that was literally made for him

>>33202402
I didn't make the chart so I don't know what that aon's thought process was for it's exclusion.

But,I do know we had it on route 3, the forest, and he ranch, since it preys on musberries, but it then later got removed for fear of having too many mons/being superflous with macabra

>>33202433
Wouldn't it be fine if it's a rare pokémon in the forest only? There's not really any other place to put it.

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>>33200699
Bless you anon

What's the best way to report this to Nintendo?

This? https://ap.nintendo.com/report/

>>33202523
>declaring his reports
MOOOOOODS

>>33202523
Oh look an original post. You're probably the 400th person to submit a report. Nintendo doesnt give a shit long as its non profit.

>>33202460
I personally think it should be added back to those places, especially route 3, but i'm not a def anymore.

I'll be suggesting it in demo feedback at least, if you think so too, do so. You can retake it just to say that if you want.

The problem is the forest already has 2 rare mons in erycoon and leukoon. so maybe just back to route 3?

>>33202487
Still need that water stone? I found it, but it think its glitched..? Its weird, the item finder pointed me in a direction and area i thought was impossible and i kind of clipped through it. Weird, but i wont spoil it unless you want.
Thank you, and great job too man I'm right behind you

>>33202523
ask to pokemon clover devs

>>33202487
You missed out Bullotus famalam

>>33202672
Someone already got Bullotus, I just forgot to mark it. I don't know what's exactly glitched with the fountain. It's always been a pain to work with.

>>33186671
So what you pick up and leave to work on a secret spoop project thats too good for the board but now you want us to playtest?

>>33202753
This isn't a playtest build. There were a couple of bugs but it's to showcase complete content. In other words, a demo, not a beta.

>>33202753
>secret spoop project
Just send them your discord if you want to work on it - unless you're a salty shitposter coming over from the Clover general, in which case carry on pretending that you represent the rest of the board in being a whiny little bitch

>>33202783
He's probably a salty shitposter from /vpmagg/, I was in the same position for a few years before I went and got involved in nonymous development.

>>33202753
>Too good for the board
The "Board" is filledwith ironic shitposting kids who want to downvote any suggestion because they can to cause chaos to the project. Leaving was the only way shit would actually get done, and it obviously has.

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ABSOLUTE

MAGNIFICENCE

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Its me, the guy who complains about how the blackbelt rematch doesnt work. 8 rare candies later got this

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How the fuck have you not confirmed this Izzie and rachel yet? How much more perfect can this design be? I'm actually legitimately impressed compared to what I saw three years ago.

>>33203048
How mad would you be if the full game released with zero gambling minigames

>>33203177
I don't care honestly, I'm just entranced by how beautiful Vivace turned out. The pixel work is top notch and I can't wait to explore it.

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Are there no loli sprites? I swear if you fags can't make a good loli I'll RIOT.

>>33203200
Pedophile.

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>>33203048
>>33203177
Desu the game has following pokemon, I think I'd be able to live without slots for that.

But goddamn if you guys do put slots in.

>>33203048
Is this town in the demo?

>>33203206
Bait.

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>>33203222
>responding

>>33203234
Yes.

>>33203222
jailbait maybe

>>33203200
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Trainer_Classes

>>33203221
Nope, it's the next city after the demo ends

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>>33203517
Picnicker could use some work. Bug catcher's okay. Schoolgirl a sex.

But this? What the goddamn I just can't

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>>33186671
Man I loved the Demo 1.0, I beat the gym and even tried to complete the available dex. My only gripe with the game is that some mons like Flairees, Buckston, Koberus and Galaxagos look super legit so they clash really hard against the rest, more amateur-ish looking pokemon.

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>>33202523
Don't you dare ruin this for everyone asshole,take your (You) and leave.

>>33202371
Looking at that map, you might get away with Pottle on Route 12. Might be worth having Chayan around there too if you can get it before Shidani's gym! The deserty area pushes up into Route 12 so maybe it'll be a bit more arid? Just a thought guys! Love your demo!

>>33203754
route 12 is going to be a drier tropic, yeah. Like ether African savanna or inland mexico highlands

>>33203733
t. hothead dev

>>33203658
There isn't any tubers in 2.0 anon. If there was we'd have made a better sprite, but for now, its just an old not so good sprite

>>33203988
its also spliced so it cant be used.

Also: New error discovered: Route 5 Blackbelt Tucker registers on the Pokenav ad Blackbelt Carlson

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>>33202523
>implying that Nintendo can do anything against /vp/ leaking Sun and Moon a literal week early and nothing happened
>implying that anything has happened to /wsr/, /t/ or every piracy thread on every random board
>implying that the FBI was able to do anything when some random /r9k/ autist decided to shoot a school
>implying that anything has happened to /pol/ despite it being full of doxxing neonazi crybabies who located a random flag using contrails
>implying that there is anything stopping me and a hundred gorillion other anons from uploading a full copy of the decrypted project files or adding more to the game, even if Ninty does manage to DMCA it as a torrent, because the demo doesn't just contain the game but also all the sauce code and the files
shoo shoo

>>33204060
Clearly you haven't ever visited /sp/ and clearly you aren't a fan of hockey otherwise you would know the tale of Lexplorer

>>33204109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bra1AUxmKYM

link for those who aren't aware.

>>33204109
There was literally a guy asking /g/ last night what servers he could buy to run his doxxing/harassment forum on.

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Anyone else disapointed with cameron's gym?

I mean, its beautiful, it really is. But after a crafty puzzle like Stella's switching valves, I expected a lot more out of it then jsut elevators and a straight shot. Maybe adjusting preassure levels to destabalize certain rooms or something? IDK. it just felt weak.

>>33204258
I didn't think Stella's was that great either honestly, nor was the lighthouse, not that Pokemon ever has good puzzles.
Now the ice puzzle to get the Old Rod? That's a winner.

>>33204258
>Destabilize room
>Gym leader drowns

Good job.

>>33204258
It could get darker and darker the deeper you go?

>>33204300
It was a puzzle?

>>33204258
What can i say anon. I hope you enjoy the other gym puzzles.

>>33204371
One that several people tried for 20 minutes without getting it. I watch the shitty lets plays of sage on youtube, it fucking stumps everyone.

>>33204258
That's a valid complaint, I think that could be interesting, you should put it in demo feedback

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Greetins, ferrow american devropers. I am Shigeru Miamorto, reader and head of Neen-tendo cawm pany. I see you are working on a Pokermon fangame, and that is cool and arr, but afriad it is against rure, and i must ask you to stop. We carrot have pokemon on a PC pratform, it must be on Neentendo consores onry. There are bigger games on PC and PS4 that must sell and you ar hindering their sares. Prease support and purchase those instead.

Prease undastand it is for the good of all Pokemon relrarted projects. Tank you.

>>33204449
Considering there's like a hundred entry points to the puzzle, and only one that works, I don't really blame them for not wanting to bother. Especially if they don't think the reward would be worth it.

>>33204521
>>33204449
I think that having people know the rod is at the end of it would help. The only hint to it is one person on the lake who says it's the fishing shack.

Having somebody in town mention the shack on the lake has fishermen with spare fishing rods would do a lot, I think

>>33204550
Now why would you do that? People won't read the dialogue anyways, they'll just speed through it and then bitch when it isn't thrown in their faces. Meanwhile you set a precedent to others that they don't need to think for themselves and not to explore because anything worth anything is mentioned.

>>33204580
I don't think a one off line of dialog hinting about it is going too far with it.

>>33204590
But why does it even need to be there in the first place?

>>33204521
Yeah it's wonderful, the reward is totally optional since you can get a better rod later, but good enough it's super rewarding.

>>33204550
There is a sign on the building with a fish.
I think it's perfect as is.

If people know it's how you get the rod and that it's possible, everyone will bash their head against the wall until they get it.
However as it is now, if you don't have the confidence you can solve it, you'll just give up. Only those who are confident they can, or persistent enough to keep trying will be rewarded. It's much better that way.

>>33204603
The fact that so many people are skipping it demonstrates there either needs to be a higher incentive or the puzzle needs to be made less time consuming/intimating for people to do it.

I'd rather do the solution what takes the less amount of work, and reduces the skill needed by the least amount. adding NPC dialog is that.

>>33204604
>There is a sign on the building with a fish.
>I think it's perfect as is.
I think that's easily kissable, personally. You've had that fish there since demo 1.0, and you've made the puzzle easier and easier since then yet it's still an issue.

It's obvious that people need to be more directly told that the old rod is there. Having an NPC say it other then the one on the lake that does that he himself takes some time to get to is the smallest change yo can make that will likely accomplish the desired result, IMO

>>33204637
It's the fucking old rod though. Fortifry is hot garbage and while the notion that you want people to do things is good and all, if you have to throw it in peoples faces to do it then that's on them, not the devs.

While you're right, NPC dialogue is a solution that takes less amount of work and reduces skill needed, the fact that it's been dumbed down so much nowadays is sad. Because frankly, that puzzle was easy as shit. I mean, really easy.

You know what the best alternative is? It's simple. You put the house right near the pier so people see it but then you make the ice puzzle a tad tougher so that way you punish people for all the retroactive retardation.

>>33204604
>Its much better that way

Nah fuck off mate. Playtester here, and an old rod OR ANY WATER POKEMON wouldve made stella a breeze for me. I didnt even have any sort of hint or clue it was in quaver town, I saw that ice floe slid on it once and slid back because there was clearly nothing of value on it. and now you tell me its where the old rod was? Haha nah, fuck off. I don't appreciate your "Only people who get my convoluted puzzle that has no prior hint that is even a puzzle" attitude. You want a make a game for the masses, you make it for the masses, not for you. Smug little shit.

>>33204686
The game isn't for the masses though, it's for experienced pokemon players who know what the fuck they're doing because this is /vp/ the Pokemon board and its assumed that everyone posting here has caught them all and isn't a fucking moron.

If you honestly think that a Fortifry would have made your life easier against Stella then you must surely be retarded. Especially because that tells me you're extra retarded considering you passed up both Flowger and Pawter before entering Dronia, which knowing the encounter rates for Sage, you most certainly did.

>>33204673
Having a piece of dialog is hardly throwing it in their face.

>the fact that it's been dumbed down so much nowadays is sad.

I was arguing it was the solution that would dumb it down the least while still actually getting more people to try it.The actual puzzle is just as hard, people just know what their reward is and won't give up as easily.

Personally, if it were me, I would have made all the rods main plot rewards so every player is garunteed to get them, since it's a "core" key item. But I'm trying to be respectful of the fact the devs want it to be a side-reward and want it to take some effort.

Having NPC's point out that there are fishermen with rods in there is the best way to make more people do it, while keeping the skill needed as high as you can.

>>33204709
Technically the rods in most games are optional, I mean you go next door to the Vermillion City Pokemon Center and a dude gives you the Old Rod free of charge.

I'm not a dev and the puzzle took me 15 seconds to figure out, and most of that was the screen lagging slightly while I moved. It's not hard at all.

>>33204706
>Expereinced players
"Expeienced players" wouldn't sit on their ass exploring every nook and cranny of fucking quaver town when all there is, is a pokemon center and Foster's Gym. Most normal functioning people would kick Foster's ass and move on to the next town to get on with the game. Who the fuck do you think is going to arbitraily go south when the town clearly points you north and east. Honestly.

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>>33204738
>Most normal functioning people
>/vp/
>Normal functioning people

>>33204709
This, Do this but with foster after you beat him
"By the way, have to tried [ice fishing] yet? It's a very relaxing pastime here in Quaver."

>>33204728
I get ya, i'm just wanting to do what's best to make it the best expierence for as many people as possible without dumbing it down. I think what I suggested strikes a good balance

>>33204637
I don't see how it's an issue. The old rod gives you a single mon that you can get later, that's all, there are plenty of way easier to miss Pokemon and items.
The point is to make people enjoy the game, not to make sure they get everything. When I found it when I first played the (old) demo, it was very rewarding and fun.

>>33204686
Haha git gud.

>>33204738
>Who the fuck do you think is going to arbitraily go south when the town clearly points you north and east
People who enjoy Pokemon and want to explore the cool areas?

>>33204760
The 50 trainers on the ice, fishing, already make that point.

>>33204775
>The cool areas
Yeah if it was Adante or Vivace sure, Quaver is literally the most boring place in the game. Even route 1 was more exciting.

>>33204686
>Giant area full of slippery ice sprinkled with lots of suspiciously placed obstacles and a single hut out in the middle of it that can only be reached via the ice
>"oh this must be absolutely nothing"
How do you live
Even just the existence of the ice would be enough to set off most people's puzzle alarms

>>33204784
>Even just the existence of the ice would be enough to set off most people's puzzle alarms

If you're dumb enough to go walking on a frozen lake, then sure. Most people are aware of danger and stray clear of it.

>>33204686
You're rewarded for exploring, simple as that.
Also this >>33204784

>>33204794
>You're rewarded
>With a mandatory item that if you miss out you'll be forced to spend 30 minute backtracking at piss slow optomized speeds JUST to get it.

Wooooow thanks for this super great prize thats always free in any game ever.

>>33204806
>old rod
>mandatory
You can fish up fortifry and bouwee with the gold rod.

You're not fucking missing anything.

>>33204816
>You're not misisng anything

Uhhh, 100% completion? Duh.

>>33204793
Are you autistic?

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>i don't want to have my own unique experience where i'm rewarded based on the exploration i choose to do on my own
>hold my hand and make sure i get everything!

>>33204835
Are you sadistic? Enjoy your frostbite.

>>33204832
You're willing to catch absolutely everything in the game, autistically breed without trading, do mind-numbing tasks, but an ice puzzle is too difficult for you?

Are you the guy who couldn't beat Stella?

>>33204521
>>33204449
>>33204580
>>33204603
>>33204604
>>33204673
>>33204686
>>33204706
>>33204728
>>33204738
>>33204760
>>33204775
>>33204783
>>33204784
>>33204793
>>33204794
>>33204806
>>33204816
>>33204845
>>33204835
http://www.strawpoll.me/13628380

Thanks Sage, because of you my girlfriend won't stop calling water "The Good Stuff".

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>>33205004
>strawpoll

>>33205004
>making the option you want seem like the middle ground and making it the most explained
Fuck you, make the ice puzzle harder.

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>>33205004
Kek

>>33205576
>16 votes
Nice try, kid.

>>33201567
>those tabs
Weak.

>>33203048
Why can't you make Dronia look this good? pls work on your building tiles.

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>>33205783
the main tile artist (who also does all the new sugis) has had updating the skycrapers in dronia to be more like early 20th century ones for a while now, it's just low priority.

>>33205879
Awesome, I was worried. I get a bit autistic about artstyle consistency

There is an NPC that directs you to the fishing hut. Hes on the ice.

The first demo had the gym leader telling me that was the end of the demo. This one doesn't so is there really anything to do after the third gym? Some side missions I may have missed?

Hi. This game looks Amazing! Are we able to play it on devices using GBA4IOS? Or is it PC only?

>>33206409
PC only.

>>33206409
It's an RPG maker game, not a romhack, so PC only

There are RPG maker emulators for android, but as far as we know none of them will run it.

If you want to play it mobile, your only real safet bet would be https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-GPD-X7-Z8750-NoteBook-Bluetooth/dp/B01MCV637B , and even then nobody has tested it

>>33203658
Being on that page doesn't mean that a sprite is confirmed, just that it's not rejected. That one there isn't legal for eventual use, in addition to being shit, so it'll be replaced.

Besides, I'm sure there'll be plenty of lolis for you in the Ossia brothel.