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I have a question about type effectiveness in gen 1. Ever since my charizard got hit by ice beam and it was SE instead of nuetral.
So because Pokemon seem to only take damage of 1 of their types, are rock/ground Pokemon 4x weak to water and grass or only 2x?
Also gen 1's crazy mechanics thread too.
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>>33177722
no, it's just that fire doesnt resist ice in gen 1
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The effectiveness message only checks for one of the types, not both.
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>>33177728
...What?
>>33177734
...What?
Not OP here, but I had forgotten how broken genwun is.
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>>33177734
So that's a no to my original question?
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>>33177722
It took neutral damage. Gen 1 said the damage was super effective if it was super effective on any of mon's types, even if the second one cancelled it out.
No, all those Golems and Rhydons are completely fucked.
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>>33177924
nah fire doesn't resist ice in gen 1
but you tried i guess
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>>33177815
Broken? It's the only gen where ice is remotely useful
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>>33177728
>>33177734
Both of these are true, but only the first one is applicable to this scenario.
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>>33177815
Ice not being shit for once is broken?
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Charizard in gen 1 resists fire, bug and grass.
Ice in gen 1 is NVE against Ice and Water.
However Gen 1 ALSO has the mechanic >>33177734 and >>33177924 mention where if one of your types is weak to an attack and the other one resists it, it will display the wrong message. IE: If you use Surf against Omastar (1x damage, 2x against rock and 1/2x against water) or Twineedle against Golbat (1x damage, 2x against poison and 1/2x against flying) it'll say it's Super Effective.
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>>33178015
I think he means broken as in full of glitches.
That said, ice is kinda broken in gen 1. If Mewtwo were pure ice type, he'd've been even more unstoppable.
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>>33178023
Actually, Surf against Omastar would say it's NFE, since Water ->1/2x-> Water is higher up in the type matchup ordering than Water ->2x-> Rock.
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>>33178086
Sorry, meant NVE but my dyslexia kicked in.
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>>33178097
So I'm still not clear on this, do ground/rock types in gen 1 take 4x or 2x damage from grass and water. Please just say 2x or 4x before explaining why.
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>>33178623
I think what he's saying is, even if Omastar takes neutral damage from Surf (as he should), the game would still display the damage taken as Super Effective. In this specific instance it would say "Not Very Effective", but as a general rule, even if a dual typed Pokemon resisted a move that was strong against one of it's types, the game would still display the wrong message.
Ground/Rock Pokemon still take x4 damage from Grass/Water/whatever
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