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What's that, you want to use me at the beginning of the game, before even the first Kahuna? No problem, in fact I'll make it even better for you by let you catch me a level 10, no evolution necessary.
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>>33135938
Why is she so perfect?
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>>33135938
>Even before
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>>33135938
>that underleveled Volcarona and Braviary/Mandbuzz you could get early on in BW2
It's like they were trying to make up for the fact that they evolved so fucking late
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>>33135938
You're severely overestimating the likelihood of anyone randomly stumbling on this thing in a normal playthrough.

>1% chance of encountering bagon
>no access to false swipe before the kahuna
>only accessible pokemon with a call rate-boosting ability and a super-effective move is growlithe with hidden power
>call rate of 9 means it's not guaranteed to call an ally every turn even under optimal conditions
>minuscule chance of a successful call resulting in salamence instead of another bagon
>limited access to potions and no access to pp restoring items so good luck stalling long enough for salamence to actually show up

It's there to reward the lucky and the patient, not to make an already babby-tier game even easier. You can count the number of people that actually found and caught a Salamence on their first trip to Route 3 on one hand and you know it.
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>>33135938
I went after this and got a shiny bagon instead
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Tier10 should be a thing again with all these new loophole mons
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>>33136207
>not catching a dragon breath/twister horsea via island scan to kill allies quickly
>not catching a carbink (which resists all of level 10 bagon's attacks) with reflect
>not training an overleveled cutiefly with stun spore for the capture and draining kiss.
>not even spamming lick with your litten to paralyze guys
come on its like you aren't even trying.
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>>33136207
This.

Sun and Moon has problems, but complaining about being able to catch Salamence early is a bullshit complaint. Its insanely rare even with conceited effort. That's not even counting actually catching the fucker, which is hard on its own given how limited your item supply will be early on.
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>>33136650
Ok so you're able to catch a level ten salamence in sm? Is that what you're saying?
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>>33136615
>carbink
>before the kahuna
it's like you can't even read
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>>33136673
you're also able to grind to level 100 before the first gym

any rpg is retarded easy if you grind out for cheap stuff
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>>33136789
WHATEVER WHO CARES
i personally think level 10 salamence is stupid
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>>33136861
i agree, but this shits so rare you shouldnt even bother chaining it
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>>33136615
>missing the point this hard

Again, you're severely underestimating how unlikely it is for Salamence to be called. A Pokemon is only guaranteed to call for help if the following are true:

>call rate of 15
>1 HP
>your active mon has Intimidate/Pressure/Unnerve
>you used an Adrenaline Orb
>you KOd an ally with a SE move last turn

For each condition not met, the chance of calling an ally goes down. Bagon's call rate is only 9. False Swipe TM is post-kahuna and the only alternatives are grinding Yungoos for Super Fang or getting lucky. Growithe is the only accessible Intimidate mon and its only accessible SE move is Outrage (Hidden Power is post-kahuna too). This means that achieving the maximum call rate possible at this point in the game requires a level 25 Yungoos and a level 43 Growlithe. At that point you can steamroll Hala with Growlithe alone, so Salamence being OP is a moot point. And that's STILL ignoring the fact that Salamence is like 1% chance even if the call is successful.

But let's say we take your advice and settle for something less optimal but more accessible. Horsea and Carbink are also post-kahuna. Status doesn't matter as the Nest Ball makes catching low-level mons trivial; it's FINDING it that's the issue. And healing won't do shit when you run out of PP. Even with a team of six Draining Kiss Cutiefly and the whopping two Leppa Berries you can acquire at that point, you still have to deal with a suboptimal call rate and a minuscule chance of calling Salamence to begin with. This seems to be the point you're not grasping: this thing is STUPIDLY rare. The average time it takes to find one is far longer than the time you can realistically keep a battle going without you're entire team Struggling to death with the resources available at that point in the game.
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>>33135938
the only thing more ridiculous than this is the casino in DQ5 having end game equipment be accessible at the start of the game
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>>33135938
I'm not sure if you were claiming as much as some people ITT think but I like it, it's a silly little timesink for wannabe autists like me who like collect little weird things like Vivillion patterns or Surf Pikachu/Alolan Raichu. Weird little one off things that aren't particularly a big deal but are niche or cool rarities.
I totally want a level 10 Salamence. It'll be neat next to my legit Level 1 Gengar
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>>33136673
You're able to find a secret weapon if you're impossibly lucky or if you look it up in advance. People only knew about it in the first place through datamining.
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>>33137748
>Surf Pikachu
Why not Fly/Surf? I thought you were tougher than this.
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>>33137793
I think people underestimate this. Salamence is statistically damn near impossible to meet by mistake even before the dozens of problems with surviving let alone catching it.
Nobody is going to ACCIDENTALLY SURVIVE the 1% call chance of bagons and be in the state to catch it without knowing about it. It's akin to meeting a Shiny as soon as you get Pokéballs on your new game.

It's akin to getting the Lionheart for Squall on Disc 1 of FFVII. You are ONLY getting that on a second or later prepared run and shit like that is awesome in RPGs
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>>33137819
I actually got a couple Surf/Fly Raichu from a giveaway here. It's nice but it feels like obivously-injected shiny. It's a halfhearted trophy. No effort.
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>>33137855
Well yeah, they're event mons. I think the only way to earn any sort of special Pikachu is to play PBR or do that one PokeWalker course (which might have been an event anyways).
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>>33137868
Yea they're nice to have if they're impossible now, regardless of where they came from. Like a lil snatch of something you missed. I think I'm autistic now. It's nice.
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>>33137868
You can get a Surf Pichu and a bunch of other neat rarities from Pokémon Box RS.
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