Anyone else think this guy says things with TOO much confidence?

>>33010511
That's because this has NOTHING to do with USUM you fucking idiot.

He doesn't know anything, and you can't argue with this.

Just save it. That way if he's wrong (and he's not) you can come shitpost about him forever after.

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>>33010511
Today I will remind them.

>>33010511
He doesn't know shit, he's just a smug asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else
Remember how he straight up denied the starter leaks with complete confidence? Funny how that turned out, huh?

>>33010511
>>33010541
That's the British for you. Pompous morons.

>>33010541
>>33010545
Today, I will remind you that this was before Mallow.

>>33010552
Doesn't change the fact that he was 100% wrong, Joe dick sucker.

>>33010541
>>33010545
He had literally no reason to believe them. Either way, you're retarded if you think that Joe is wrong.

>>33010559
Except there was no reason to believe they were real before that, pomf dick sucker.

>>33010552
>>33010561
how does Joe's dick feel?

>>33010576
You can't say it's real, but you can't flat out say it's fake either. At the most all you can't say is "I hope they're fake"

>>33010561
>>33010576
>He had literally no reason to believe them.

He had no reason to say "of course they're fake" either.

He was wrong, end of story. Don't try to sugar coat it.

>>33010591
No, you can say they're fake.

>>33010594
>He had no reason to say "of course they're fake" either.
You mean besides there being no evidence?
>it looked like another leak that turned out real before
People copy legit leaks all the time to make them seem more real.

Saying that leaks without evidence are fake is 100% correct. Even if it turns out that they're real, it doesn't mean that you were ever wrong.

>>33010511
But he's right. The Daisuki Club has done this so many times. They build lore. They always open with a teaser, saying to come back in one week, and then the site opens up.

They had a Magnemite one a couple of months back. They've done a world of Pokémon one.

Why are you people so fucking dense that you can't believe the actual facts

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>>33010608
>>33010635
>devil's proof

>>33010608
>You mean besides there being no evidence?
Official looking art and correct Japanese is evidence. Nothing about it is enough to say "of course it's fake."

Also it DIDN'T copy previous leaks. All the shitty leakers were copying the wottergate leaks.

>>33010635
>even though you were wrong, you weren't wrong

What?

>>33010742
When there's no evidence that the leaks are real, then Joe is 100% right when he called them fake and thus he wasn't wrong.

Sure, it turns out that they're real, but at the time when Joe called them out on being fake, the complete lack of evidence made them fakes, so Joe isn't wrong. This is basic logic.

>>33010742
>Also it DIDN'T copy previous leaks
It copied previous anime leaks. Also anyone can learn japanese and mimic someone else art style with practice. Face it, you just have a hateboner for Joe for some reason and are obsessed with seeing him fail.

>>33010771
>the complete lack of evidence made them fakes
what

>>33010511
Fuck that noise, we need to discuss whats really Important!

WE GOT POTION CODES AGAIN!
BUT HERE'S THE CATCH! ITS ONY 50 POTIONS FOR EACH GAME SO THAT MEASN USUM IS AT LEAST TWICE AS DIFFICULT AS ORA! GET HYPED!!!!!

>>33010771
>When there's no evidence that the leaks are real
I already gave you evidence for them being real. And lack of evidence of something being real is not the same as evidence that it's fake. Joe was wrong, period.

>>33010780
>It copied previous anime leaks.
No it doesn't. In fact, this was one of the things people were arguing AGAINST the leaks for.

>Also anyone can learn japanese and mimic someone else art style with practice
And yet every other leak you could immediately tell were fake just by looking at the art style or japanese.

Just admit it, you like to suck Joe's dick and can't come to terms with the fact that he was 100% objectively wrong.

To be fair he does have the biggest pokemon news site and knows more about pokemon than any of us do

>>33010844
But he wasn't wrong. He just said that something without evidence is fake. And that's right. There was no evidence, so he wasn't wrong.

>>33010771
Exactly. Everything is fake news even after being proven real, otherwise you'd have to admit being wrong and it's not like facts are ever accurate.

>>33010545
>>33010541
Fuck off Joe is fine he knows best

>>33010511
Serebii hasn't had exclusives in years, he doesn't have insider sources or know early shit. He's only good for posting news quick, and even then it's put out by official channels at the same time. People still suck his dick because he used to be good but that hasn't been the case for years.

>>33010878
This.

he was right about that shit and has done nothing to question my confidence in his judgement. This is just a witch hunt to hurt his reputation

>>33010511
Joe has always been trustworthy

/thread

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>>33010511
>>33010524
>>33010545
>>33010561
>>33010576
>>33010591
>>33010594
>>33010598
>>33010608
>>33010635
>>33010721
>>33010771
>>33010844
>>33010878
YOU DON'T KNOW! YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING! YOU ONLY HAVE YOUR SUSPICIONS! BUT YOU CANNOT PROVE WHAT LEAKS ARE REAL AND WHAT AREN'T!

>>33010946
Hello Joe

Stop bullying joe he's the best thing to come out of Pokemon in the last decade

>>33010946
Hey Joe, how's it going?

>>33011039
He's been around longer than that.

>>33011049
Hi pomf, diddle any kids lately?

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>joe says [thing] was fake
>turns out [thing] wasn't fake
>somehow this means joe was right

Serebii dick suckers have to be the most ass backwards faggots in this fan base. They'll contort whatever facts they can to somehow spin it into Joe being right.

>>33011131
Hello, Pomf.

>>33010878
>But he wasn't wrong.

Yes he was. He said they were fake, they weren't. Therefore he was wrong. 1+1 = 2.

>He just said that something without evidence is fake
1. There was evidence.
2. Something not having evidence that it's real isn't the same as having evidence that it's fake.

>>33010960
>he was right about that shit
He objectively wasn't.

>>33011131
Fuck off, Joe was right, joe is right, joe will always be right.

Stay jelly.

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Joe is always right. :^)

>>33011186
Oh boy! A small handful of mistakes over the course of like 18 years! What's next? Are you going to post le ebin no exp tutorial? Or the time he accidentally posted a news template? Or are you just going to go ahead and skip to the typos?

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>>33010869
>knows more about pokemon than any of us do

Yes look at his superior Pokemon knowledge

clearly he is a god and knows everything

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How about posting some other times when serebii was wrong?

>>33011218
You sound just like (Joe)

>there are people that actually save this kind of shit
wew

>>33011250
fuck off Liam "dragon/poison" Pomfret

>>33011310
can't blame them with all the rampant joe dick suckers constantly claiming that he's always right.

>>33011315
>>33011294
>>33011284
>>33011250
Leave him alone lots of people work at serebii it's not joes fault they fuck up sometimes

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>>33011218

>>33011315
>Serebii not telling every 12 year old that visits his site to come to /vp/ for ebin leaks
>mistake
Fuck off back to your Youtube account.

>>33011326
He IS always right thought. Your shitty screenshots of completely insignificant typos and photoshops don't prove shit.

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>>33011348 (Joe)
>completely insignificant typos and photoshops

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I know it’s petty, but it really irritates me how nobody ever goes to Bulbagarden for breaking pokémon news. It’s always Serebii or PokéJungle or PokéBeach, but never Bulbagarden, even though all of those other sites, in some way, try to mimic Bulbagarden or Bulbapedia’s style of delivering information. We break the exact same news at the exact same time from the exact same sources, yet even on our own Facebook page we get people telling other commenters to “go to Serebii for confirmation” when it takes us 0.02358734 seconds longer to post something because people are incapable of typing at twice the speed of light, and that’s not counting the time we actually take to confirm that what we’re saying is complete and accurate to the best of our knowledge and ability. No fan site has any authority to confirm anything, and no site is any more or less credible than any other. If Serebii or PJ or WPM couldn’t update their sites for some reason, the news would still break. Bulbagarden does have a Facebook page, a Twitter account, another Twitter account dedicated to breaking news, and even a Tumblr page, all of which you should totally be following, and at least has the advantage of having multiple moderators for all of its social media sites across many time zones, but no one ever seems to believe anything until Serebii posts about it, and that just makes me sad.

>>33011332
>Herp derp my meme gonna make joe look stupid

Actually it just makes you look stupid try harder

>>33011343
reaching

>>33011384
Now you're taking tweets out of context. He clearly says that he had no evidence they were real. Joe is right.

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>>33011393
really makes you think

>>33011409
Lol this picture proves Joe right....

>>33010511
He's probably tired of pokemon or something. I would be if I were him.

>>33010576
>pomf dick sucker
Probably not, since you have to be 18 to post on 4chan

>>33011430
>Lol

>>33011348
Remember when BW came out in Japan and Joe claimed that the 1st battle gave no exp. because it was a test battle? When really he was playing a pirated copy and that's why he got no exp.?

Serebii's a great site for info, but it's not infallible. You don't have to suck his dick all the time.

>inb4 Pomf
Whatever.

>>33010511
He used to have a shred of modesty, but is now an arrogant asshole. Probably anal because his girlfriend would rather cyber with anonymous guys online rather than do anything with him. Well, he probably doesn't give a fuck, since he'd run around playing Go! while she is left alone.

>>33010576
they look real

>>33011487
I don't care how many faked pictures you post. Joe is trustworthy and completely reliable.

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>>33011534
>faked pictures
Sure thing, buddy.

>>33010545
/thread

>>33011570
Why does he look good before, and gross after? Did he just give up? Does he get sleep?

>>33011570
>>33011559
Stop trying to slander him with awkward photos. Be an adult.

>>33011586
She has a harsh face

>>33011592
Why should you care?

Who is this pitiful cunt that is going out of his way to defend this cuck?
Your posts are cringe worthy as fuck.

>>33011608
Because he's a good honest man who is doing his best. That should be respected, not mocked.

>>33011622
Your face is cringe worthy as fuck.

>>33011625
>That should be respected, not mocked.
Do you know where you at?
I'm seriously starting to think that you're actually Joe.

>>33011582
It's an angle that doesn't accentuate his fucking Neanderthal unibrow.

Dumbasses.

>>33010576
There was no reason to believe they were fake, yet he claimed they were.

Quick post the you can't level up picture from.

>>33010511
>Iron Fiat

>>33011625
I think people are mostly joking, I like Joe, but he shot himself in the foot a crapload of times by now, he should stop being so sure of stuff every damn time.

>>33011731
this

>>33010511
The guy doesn't know shit, he's wrong about stuff all the time.

He just thinks he's the absolute authority on the series because he runs the oldest Pokemon fansite on the English-speaking web and occasionally has insider info.

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>>33010511
I bet he thinks this is fake too.

>>33010511
I know people in this thread have probably posted the 4 or 5 times Joe was slightly wrong about something, but the dude knows his shit and is really accurate. He usually explains why he thinks those things also so y'know, can't really fault him if his arguments are good.

>>33010960

Brief history lesson here:

Joe used to have Nintendo exclusive info and be invited to private press releases. This ended somewhere before DPs release because he leaked Pokemon designs that were supposed to be kept under wraps for release. Since then his credibility is just as good as anyone elses.

Afterwards the guys at Pokejungle and Pokebeach have been using this opportunity to leech users from him by convincing people that his credibility was bad enough that theyd eventually go over to their sites. Youll notice that around the major release periods they try to drum up interest for new users by shitposting on Gamefaqs and 4chan using standard fare "serebii confirmed" smears. After release they go into hiding for another two years.

I dont mind if people use Serebii or if they dont, this is just to put current circumstances into context for people. Know the kind of autists youre dealing with when you decide to give them your viewership.

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>>33011369
Maybe Pomfetty would've been faster if he didn't waste so much time diddling kiddies. Sad!

>>33011815
It can't really be fake considering it isn't a leak, the title clearly states it is the persons wish list.

>>33011853
Is their any part of this fandom that isn't a mess?

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I know this isn't really relevant but I still laugh when I think about it.

>>33010635
/lolg/ here.
Someone made a post on Reddit that got swiftly deleted, but screencapped.

Posted a lot of random shit and off the wall things like skins etc, new character details (Two characters made to be played together in one release, "think humanoid birds", character being reworked from the ground up's design and skills) etc., and the leaks slowly one by one proved right, beginning shortly thereafter, but the arguments against them are the same as the shit we have here.

"HURR THEY COULDVE SEEN ONE THING AND MADE UP A LIST!"
Why though?

>>33010635
>>33011909
Hit Enter too soon but what I'm trying to say is;
The leaks were correct, and nothing seemed too extraordinary to be wrong especially once we saw a teaser of "a" bird champ (We only saw a silhouette, the two characters close together, with the only hint it wasnt one being was the wings were slightly different shapes)

If you dont have proof though, that doesnt make it a fake leak. It's only fake if its wrong or the devs say "nope thats fake."

>>33011861
>>33011869
Tripfag pls go

>>33011437
kek

HE ONCE SAID THAT SHELLOS WAS A LAPRAS PREVO

>>33012869
Didn't he also say Kricketot was the common prevo to Volbeat and Illumise?

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Remember back when Gen 5 were coming out and he said "you can't earn EXP in the first fights to make it even"? pic related

>>33011315
Does anyone still have the "/vp/ - various image boards" meme?

>>33011533
Did joe not take algebra in school???

>>33011664
Unless he was menustrating at the time of the first photo, so he had a glow. But I guess when you have a girlfriend to dump loads into, you don't menustrate as mych, so therefore, lose your glow.

>>33011487
Well with that one to be fair it does appear to be related to luvdisc. I literally never use serebii but with that one he was just saying it has been reveled and giving an opinion on how it looked.

>>33011853
That's not true. Joe has shown to have insider contacts recently too.

Remember he had the types of the Gen 6 Mythicals up way before we had any form of data mining, before Smealum got into the game.

>>33011384
He didn't send that tweet about those

Hang on. So Joe is trying to explain what the Daisuki Club does with these sections and so people are trying to discredit him with the dozen or so times he has been wrong in 18 years all because he's not jumping on the wrong bandwagon of this being huge major new?

Jesus Christ some of you have such ridiculous hate boners for him

>>33011861
>wish list
That's literally how some leaks that turned out real happened for X/Y, and S/M.

>>33011586
He looks like that caveman from spongebob

>>33010511
Seriously, I´m not a big fan of Joe Merrick, but we should also post the things, he was absolutely right.

He has been wrong many times, but also right many times more.

>>33013532
Pokebeach shills have been known to post here before.

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>all the idiots itt who don't realize that being the fastest at what you do and being meticulously accurate aren't compatible
>all the idiots itt who don't understand that all "leaks" should be approached with skepticism
>all the idiots itt who think making 10 mistakes each year when reporting daily discredits you

He's completely right about this though

>>33010511
He's just an huge retard.

>>33014942
It's not even 10 mistakes each year.

Most of the mistakes the person listed are due to copy/paste errors. Others are them being anal about him not linking people to here. Others he's attributing quotes Joe said about other fakes to the Starter Evos timestamped after Joe accepted they're real. The rest are over 10 years old.

There's only a couple of actual mistakes, granted the starter evolution call was a massive faux pas on Joe's side.

>>33011533
That's a motherfucking transitive relation. Did this guy play pokemon during his math class.

You people really have nothing better to do than to argue over 1 single guy getting something right or wrong, WHO THE FUCK CARES!

>>33015027
>Others are them being anal about him not linking people to here.
Those people are all underage cancer that came here because some Youtube faggot told them about this place. Literally nobody else would actually want /vp/ to be reference all over the Internet as the place to come for Pokemon leaks.

>>33010511
I'm not a Serebii cocksucker but he has followed the Pokemon news scene for 15+ years by running his site, generally he is right about things like this

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>>33012988
He did. That wasn't what he said. That tweet got edited

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/722687696674623490
>Just because B=A and C=A, it does not mean 100% that D=A

This guy has been editing various tweets to remove context and make Joe look like an idiot just because Joe got that one thing wrong and refused to link to here when there were actual leaks.

>>33015557
Isn't >>33011384 an actual tweet that referred to some obviously fake shit and had nothing to do with the SM starters, too?

>>33015566
Yeah it was. Joe had already admitted the starters were legit at that point. He posted this a week before that tweet

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/760126149477408768
>Yes, the starter evo concept art appear to be real, but they are also cease & desist bait so there's no way in hell I'm putting them up

Here's the tweet that >>33011384 used. It seems the person Joe responded to has deleted their account and so their tweets went so we can't see which it was
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/762516774030086144

It's so easy to find this shit on Twitter.

>>33010771
So if I shoot up a house and there's no evidence of it at the time I am completely innocent but when the evidence comes out and proves it was me I suddenly change to guilty? Americans are fucking retarded.

>>33015589
>Innocent Until Proven Guilty is a uniquely American concept

>>33015586
Based on another "it's fake" tweet he posted the following day it was the Alola Pokédex fake leak that came out

>Timmyfaggot is still posting here
I don't care if you removed your trip, you're still cancer, fuck off

>>33015641
Looking at Joe's Tweet here >>33015557, Timmy had his account suspended on Twitter too

>>33015589
>>33015600
I hate to respond to you question with another, but what if you didn't shoot up the house and people thought that you did? Do you know what Type 1 and Type 2 error is? That's why we need evidence for things.

Also, we don't say innocent anymore, we say "not guilty" and they are not the same.

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Children.

>>33015992
I like Pokéjungle better. At least he doesn't have a stick up his ass 24/7, and knows when to have fun.

>>33010561
>>33010576
>missing the point
Every sane person should have assumed they were fake until Mallow. The point isn't that he should have known, the point is that he COULDN'T have known. Therefore he shouldn't always be trusted with things that he can't know for sure.

>>33015992
Man Joe can be a total scumbag

>>33016285
You do know they're friends and they're just screwing with eachother right?

>>33015992
>Pokejungle
Who?

Even if he can be a major faggot at times, I like Joe better than Bulbapedo anyway.

>>33016023
Honestly this