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>Steel is currently the best defensive type, and a solid offensive

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>Steel is currently the best defensive type, and a solid offensive type.
itt we nerf steel.
You can nerf Fairy too in turn if you want.
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Steel:
>Loses resistance to Psychic

Fairy:
>Loses resistance to Bug

Ice:
>Gains resistance to Ground

There, everything is fixed.
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>>32957876
Weak to Electric and Ice.
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>>32957926
those make no sense.
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>>32957876
>now weak to electric
>now only resists steel

Now it's ice 2.0
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>>32957926
>Buffing Water even more
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>>32957876
>Fairy: Weak to Psychic
There, now Steel looses relevance as an offensive type, and a shittype everyone gets is useful again.
Sorry Fightingbros.
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>>32957876
Make Steel weak to water. Metal rusts after all.
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>>32957876
>nerfing the glue keeping this meta from being a OHKO fest
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>>32958087
>>32957990
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>>32958099
What if we just made every type decent defensively?
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>>32957876
Weak to psychic.
Now fairy doesn't totally outclass psychic as an offensive typing.
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All you have to do is nerf Fairy. It then becomes less of a solid offensive type. Fairy is literally the only reason its used offensively, it was almost never used prior to Gen 6. In addition, this makes Darks able to roam more freely, which adds an additional opening for Steels defensively.
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>>32958099
The glue is stall and smogonlion

Steel needs to be nerfed
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>>32957876
No longer resists Grass or Ice (now resists Water).

Numerous needed buffs and nerfs achieved simultaneously.
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>>32957944
Electric makes sense.
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>>32958291
>implying steel resists dark
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>>32958342
No, anon is saying that if there were fewer fairies around, we'd see more dark types, which would mean that there are more pokemon running around who's STAB can hit steel for neutral damage, reducing steel types effectiveness as a defensive type.
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>>32957876
Steel resists Dark and Ghost
Fairy removed
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>>32957876
Can't really just take away its defensive merits without the entire game turning to ass. So instead lets just take some of its resists and give them to other types. 4 or so. It would still have the most resists even after doing this.
>Flying, Grass and Psychic resists go to ice
>Ice resist goes to Ghost.
As pittance make iron tail have 100 accuracy. It's something.

Ice types (majority of them, sorry weavile) are far more inclined to slow bulky offence than they are the hyper offence the type seems built around. So making ice a little worse offensively would make sense, in addition to the buffs it got above. Again just shifting weaknesses rather than eliminating or adding.
>Ground now weak to flying and not ice

Bug is absolutely fine it just needs strong spamable moves like fighting has. U turn is a boon, but bug combat would seal the deal.
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>>32958484
>Bug is absolutely fine
Bug is resisted by 7 types.
That's absolutely awful.
Bug has decent attacks, it's just an awful offensive type in terms of coverage.
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>>32957911
Steel loses resistance to Psychic
>Except Steel and Dark were made solely to balance Psychic types, so no
Fairy loses resistance to Bug
>100% Agree
Ice gains resistance to Ground
And Flying.
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>>32957876
Make Fairy weak to Fire and Water weak to Poison.
>Fairy gets a spammable and easy to teach weakness
>The main weakness of Steel types is even more used now
>Water isn't buffed
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>>32957876
>Weak to grass now (Overtaken by nature)
>Regains ghost resistance to compensate
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>>32958325
electricity barely damages steel you retard hence ineffectiveness
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>>32964982
the heat from conducting it would easily melt steel beams
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Switch Fairy and Dragon, make Dragon type immune to Fairy and Dragon super effective against Fairy. Dragons eat fairies in folklore.
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>>32962607
>Magearna gets a 4x weakness

YES PLEASE
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>>32962607
Fire is already one of the best types
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>>32957876
Steel
>Loses resistance to Dragon and Psychic

Fairy
>Loses resistance to Bug, Ghost and Normal now SE against it

(Autism incoming): Targeting Steel's defensive capabilities was the idea; strangely enough Steel was introduced to nerf Psychic-types. Fairy nerfs are needed so badly and I think this helps--the Bug resist makes no sense so it's gone, and it'd have 4 SE options now (I know Normal being SE is le ebin maymay but Normal beats fairy b/c magic doesn't exist).
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>>32965157
I think Normal deserves to be SE against one type, and it would make sense. Also, normal humans tend to destroy their habitats because regular beings typically don't see them or know they exist.
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>>32957876
Steel no longer resists Fairy
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Steel should only be nerfed offensively. It should keep all its resistances because it's fucking steel.
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>>32962607
This would make dragon broken again as they'd be able to beat steel and fairy just by carrying a fire move.

>>32964992
Memes aside that's not how electricity works, anon. Things that conduct well generate less heat when carrying a current than things with high low conductivity.
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>>32957876
Make Grass super effective against Steel. Plant roots damage buildings.
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>>32965157
>Buffing Ghost

Retarded, rest of post dismissed.
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>>32964982
It should be SE because of conductivity, it makes more sense than water being weak since distilled water is a shit conductor.
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>>32957911
>Steel:
>Loses resistance to Psychic
Can't happen...Steel is still needed to help keep psychics in check since Dark is still a terrible type due to fairy dominance.

>Fairy:
>Loses resistance to Bug
What about Fairy gaining a weakness to bug? Would really help the bug typing out seeing as its other super effective types aren't really common anymore.

>Ice:
>Gains resistance to Ground
And make gamefreak think that we need even MORE defensive ice types? Ice is fine, it's a solid neutral attacking type and is still very much in demand to take down the 4x weakness dragons since fairy hasn't really slowed their advance at all.
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>>32966636
Plants do jack shit to steel in real life. What they fuck up is the ground or concrete, which isnt steel.

If any pokemon type gets to be super effective vs steel based on real world shit then water would be the best chance. Rust fucks up steel pretty quickly and there is no "air" type unless you count flying....and birds suck ass vs buildings.
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>>32966827
>Dark is still a terrible type
lmao

Steel losing its resistance to Psychic would help Psychic a lot
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>>32967023
Look, dark got a lot better with the Knock off buff in X/Y but its still a pretty meh attacking type. Fairy completely outclasses Dark type as an offensive and defensive powerhouse.

The best dark type pokemon barely even care about their dark typing. Sure stopping stored power clefable will be relevant for a while to come. But unless fairy gets the nerf bat hard it will be a solid counter to dark type and keep them down.
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Steel is now weak to Grass.
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>>32960920
Except Psychic no longer needs the balancing feature - Steel was made back when Psychic and Normal were the cancer types.
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Gen 5 type chart was almost perfect. All it needed was making ice resist dragon.

Steel is supposed to be a strong, reliable defensive type since gen 2. Nerfing it even further is stupid.
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>>32966618
Then make 3 non cucked ice types.(or make 2 and give Weavile tough claws)
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