ITT: We laugh at PU shitmons
>slow
>loses speed
>shit defenses
>cucked out of low NU because of usage
>ugly and unpopular
>garbage mistyping, making it even worse
>no good STAB moves
>fanbase and fanart consists of bara, fart and diaper fetishists
>not even good in doubles
>HA never, even when would still suck ass
>>32945696
but decidueye looks much more like a man in a fursuit, you literally cannot defend this
lol it's literally just my mom's swan xd
>>32945696
>Intimidate not one of the best abilities in the game
kill yourself
>>32945725
Oh wow, did they finally give it to him?
>>32945725
Giving Intimidate to Incineroar is like giving a shitty slow Ice type wonderguard. Sure it's a good ability but fucking useless on a garbage shitmon.
>>32945696
I honestly think that incineroar will be fixed somehow if they really want place it together with shitninja, if not then gf is incompetent bunch of morons because it's literally an shillmon...
>remembers emboar
oh
Reminder that Incineroar is the King of its tier.
>>32945748
I hope they are reading this, because their actions are retarded as fuck, I'm surprised how this franchise is still alive with them at the top
daily reminder that only primarina turned out as good competitively
>>32945765
imo the real problem lies in weakness and immunity system and broken stats of many ou mons
in first case; the fire type doesn't protect dark type from fairy weakness
dark type doesn't protect from water weakness which is bullshit, they should receive neutral damages from it's weaknesses
in second case; gf is giving shitty stats to the starters while they should be the most shilled even like
120hp
100atk
100def
120sp.atk
100sp.def
100speed
gf completely ignores the fact that they are our STARTERS, they want us to interact with our team mates in amie but they cannot make starters good while we are sharing with them more of that special autistic bond...
>>32945815
The starters are all fine in-game though.
Game Freak doesn't make them with Smogon tiers in mind.
>>32945815
plus they really need fix many stats in this game, many mon are utter shit against garchomp and others and they supposed to be used competitively
>>32945840
anon, it really doesn't matter anymore, how we supposed to play the actual game with those shitty stats and lack of supportive mechanic?
>>32945740
To be fair, an Ice type with Wonder Guard that has more that 1 HP would be OU, if not Ubers.
>>32945696
>shit defenses
>95/90/90
Incineroar is still shit but that's just blatantly false.
>It's yet another worn out joke thread to mock any of the Alolan starters
I don't like Incineroar either, but this needs to stop. You could have made a thread literally about anything and you decided to waste your fingers typing about how much you hate a pokemon design.
Would Decidueye and Incineroar move up a tier if their special attacks and speeds was swapped?
>>32945696
>slow
Not everything needs to be le fast frail sweeper
>loses speed
so? torracat looks fast and is meant to be said sweeper meme, Incineroar switches its focus from hyper offensive to tanky
>shit defenses
95/90/90 defenses is pretty good, anon
>ugly and unpopular
That's subjective, and Incineroar has arguably more merch than the other two Alola starters.
>garbage typing
>having five resists and an immunity while getting stabs off of two of the most powerful offensive typings in the game is considered bad
>shitty fanbase
Every Pokemon has fans that like that shit, look at Decidueye
>not even good in doubles
true, but neither are the other two
>HA never
>Implying they won't do a promo event with the movie or release them for USUM
>>32945696
>mistyping
stay mad
>>32946328
There's a reason why it's PU on Smogon and why it is never used in VGC. It has the same problem as a bulky Ice type: it can't outspeed Pokemon that can exploit its typing and kill it. Using an Incineroar is like playing with 5 Pokemon outside of its tier.
>>32945696
>another incineroar hate thread
You are bigger faggots than barafags
>>32945696
>ugly and unpopular
That could be said for all alolalalalala starters(except popplio)
I thought Incineroar is the most popular starter this gen due to all the memes.
>>32946583
look at your life once again
>>32945709
>>32946315
>>32946328
Every
Single
Time
Every single time someone points out a flaw with Incineroar, no matter how constructively put it is, you mongrels always scream out something about decidueye.
Fuck off with your cancerous starter war instigation, cancer lord.
>>32946663
Looks like owlcucks lost again. Why don't you fuck off? You are the reason starter wars exist.
Incineroar has no flaws compared to the hot garbage that is Decidueye and I wish owlfags would stop trying to project their hate onto it.
>>32946663
Ok but that's both starters
say something bad about the owl then you are a barafag say something bad about fursuit cat then you are an owlfag
>>32946719
fucking this
y'all are stupid
>>32946663
But I was only saying that Decidueye is like Incineroar in that they're screwed over in the speed department because they have an unusably high special attack. I like both of them.
>>32946726
No, catfans are awesome and kind dudes, owlcucks keep falseflagging to spread hate. As a seal fan I'm tired of seeing another cool starter bashed.
Thank God we pushed out most owlcucks from this board. Just gotta clean up the stragglers.
keeping thread on-topic
>SLOW
>FRAIL
>ROCK TYPE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>doesn't even get accelerock
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAH
>>32946663
grassy, sad and dead inside, this is your personification as pokemon
>>32946743
>No, catfans are awesome and kind dudes, owlcucks keep falseflagging to spread hate. As a seal fan I'm tired of seeing another cool starter bashed.
>I'm tired of seeing another cool starter bashed.
bashing the 3rd starter isn't gonna help lmao
Why can't barafags just leave owlfriends alone? Don't you "people" have anything better to do than harassing people who likes a pokemon you don't like?
>>32945696
>>32946744
USUM will save them, right?
>>32946743
>As a seal fan
>Thank God we pushed out most owlcucks from this board
How are we to know you're not the ones making starter wars between the cat fans and the owl fans?
>>32946780
Lycanroc and the Alola starters are unsalvagable because they're too important for Game Freak to fix statspread or ability-wise, unfortunately.
>slow as hell
>not the least bit bulky
>too slow for chlorophyll even after z-sunny day
>solar power is frankly just awful
>early bird ruined by spore/sleep powder immunity
>mediocre typing
>cant even sweep in trick room since it will get ko'd by whatever it fails to ko
>movepool is wasted due to bad stats
>>32946780
imo I want incineroar to have HA to be able always crit
it's literally perfect for him, intimidate is shit
>>32946811
It's like the polar opposite of Magikarp and Gyarados line.
>>32946823
*which makes him always crit
I thought my sentence was right but after re-reading I realized it's confusing
>>32946823
I was hoping it'd get Mold Breaker or Moxie or something.
>>32945757
Reminder that it's not, its fucking B in NU lol.
Friendly reminder all starter wars have always been caused by pissed off owlfags mad their beta starter lost the shill mon slot to Incineroar. And only owlfags will disagree.
>>32946907
>Friendly reminder all starter wars have always been caused by pissed off owlfags mad their beta starter lost the shill mon slot to Incineroar. And only owlfags will disagree.
>>32946907
Incorrect. This is a starter war started by incineroarfags. The concrete evidence comes from nobody mentioning Decidueye except for Incineroarfags. Even ignoring that OP is in the constructive criticism field, OP never mentioned Decidueye. Incineroarfags made this a starter war.
>>32946907
is incineroar in pokken?
>>32945696
>Intimidate
>Assault Vest
>Natural bulk
>Fake Out
>U-turn
>Heat Wave
>Leech Life
>Implying it won't rule VGC when it gets Intimidate
>>32946878
At least he has a fellow fire starter friend with him
>>32946937
>u-turn
>vgc
>u-turn
>>32946917
>>32946925
>>32946931
Cases in point. At most owlfags will claim Pokken is a big victory, if you can call a port of a one-off spinoff game a victory.
I have no clue why Decidueye fans get so honestly triggered, but they still have trouble facing the cold hard truth even now.
Fucking barafags always being the first to start the shit flinging. This thread really shows their true nature as vile assholes.
>>32946974
I'm not even a Decidueye fan but Pokken is huge
>>32946974
dude, i haven't even played gen 7. i couldn't care less about any of the starters. i just think it's kinda counter-intuitive to say you wanna end the starterwars while bashing one of them
>>32946743
>complains about falseflag and starterwars
>while falseflagging and instigating starterwars
really fires those neurons
>>32946986
Not really.
Pokken got some good succes in arcades at first, but now the game is quite stale and Pokken on Wii U died in less than 2 month.
It's a shame because the game is fun to play (not so much to watch tho).
>>32947117
big as in they are trying to push it
>>32946907
>All starter wars have always been caused by pissed off owlfags
It's funny you say that. Yes, I am indeed an owl fan. I may, heck, I'll even admit it, I do have preference over the owl while Incineroar brings me to a utter apathy. I had no intention whatsoever to pick him. You wanna know what I am? A fire fag.
You know how many threads I made thrashing Incineroar or its fans? Or heck, let's bring in Primarina or its fans as well because I will admit also having preference to the owl over the seal (or at least the final evolution exclusively because its former stages are still cute to me and I even felt bad Popplio had such cancerous bandwagoning hatred behind it, up until, of course, it evolved into something people began to worship).0
You're retarded to think anyone that legitimately hates or dislikes any starter specifically makes threads about hating them. Haters would rather AVOID and ignore and maybe perhaps give a shit about the pokemon later on, but there's so much hate threads merely created for shitposting, the ill-conceived with no real intention behind them threads push the actual haters to merely reply and voice their opinion when the truth is, people behind hate threads are simply throwing wood into the fire while actual haters are simply repliers at best. They might try their best to keep it to themselves, but even the most saint people will admit letting out a "I can't find it in my heart to like it" at best in some of these threads.
Yes, I have preference over the owl. You know what I'd reaaaaaally love as well? For these bloody threads to end because they bring no purpose to these boards, they only exist to tease and pester people who are trying to like things. Just because I dislike X or feel nothing towards Y, does not mean I go around these boards, making completely useless threads meant for fueling hatred while erasing threads that could have contained actual fucking proper discussion.
>>32947135
Is this a real responce? I cant tell at this point this board has too much autism
>>32945696
PU is a legitimately fun format though. It's the only format you'll see a move like future sight being used just because it's Mr. Mike's strongest move.
Also the only format where some babymons are useful outside LC.
>>32947135
You need to go back
>>32945696
Amazing how ice types drag down tanks
>>32946969
even in the tcg decidueye ex vastly outclasses the other two ability wise and type wise because itll be abuseable with Forest of Giant Plants
>>32946907
No, starter wars are started by falseflaggers stirring up shit for (you). Of course, you would already know that, wouldn't you?
>Thread opens up by shitting at Incineroar
How swell.
>Starterfags got baited by falseflagger
Really guys? Is this how far your intelligence goes?
>>32945696
Ok, but fart fetish = best fetish, ok?
>>32945696
>Sunkern used Protect!
>>32945815
>fire type doesn't protect dark type from fairy weakness
except it does
>dark type doesn't protect from water weakness
this makes no sense at all?
incineroars only problem is its speed honestly
>>32948486
nice filename
>>32947135
>reddit spacing
>>32946937
>Implying it won't rule VGC when it gets Intimidate
Not when arcanine exists.
>>32948970
>actually using paragraphs
faggot
>>32946907
>starter wars
Nobody mentioned Decidueye until Incineroarfags showed up. They're the ones to blame here.
>>32945696
>least popular final form gen 7 starter by far
>least viable gen 7 starter by far
>worst designed gen 7 starter by far
>most dissapointing final evolution of a gen 7 starter by far (seriously imagine how many children cried when their cool cute cat turned into this hideous thing)
>the only, ONLY achievement Incineroar can claim is most used pokemon in Refresh because the only thing it's good at is being furry porn
It's actually kind of impressive how much of a blunder Incineroar is
>>32949502
When the OP shits on Incineroar, what the fuck do you think will happen?
Also, the first mention of Decidueye seems to be neither sides, unless you like to antagonize the other.
>>32946907
Holy shit, looking at all the replies, it looks like this guy was right on the ball.
>>32949592
>Also, the first mention of Decidueye seems to be neither sides
Yeah it just popped into existence by itself. First reply in the thread and it's already derailed
>>32946984
>Thread starts by shitting on Incineroar
All of you are retarded
>>32945757
>needs a custom fan system to systematically eliminate more than half of all pokémon in order to stand a chance
>not the king of the tier anyway
How embarassing
Reminder that only degenerates actually like Decidueye.
>>32946907
>>32946743
>>32946984
>>32949789
This is why we get raided by Bui.
>>32945696
>>not even good in doubles
I mean, it isnt top tier but it is quite viable still.
>>32949721
No, he's getting replies because he's completely and extremely wrong.
>>32945696
>>ugly and unpopular
>>garbage mistyping, making it even worse
epic
>>32946663
>constructively
ebin
Nice falseflag
This could have have been a perfectly acceptable thread, but no, catfags just had to force their retarded starter wars in here. Why can't you fucks just leave us alone alright? You should be ashamed of what you're doing.
>>32946744
>only 2 gen 7 final forms didn't get anything exclusive, 43 speed and this
>in the last movie Incineroar Z-Move is so weak that Charizard can block it and counterattack
How will barafags ever recover?
>>32945725
Damn, I bet Intimidate Grumpig would be OU.
>>32945725
t. delusional fool.
>>32946328
>incineroar
>sweeper at all
LOLOL
>tanky
>with that type
LOLOLOL
>>32946937
>anything used faster z power
>lele and friends
Also inferior Intimidate user.
>>32948970
spacing
is
two
lines
fucking
newfag
buzzoword
spouting
summer
pleb
>>32951432
He's right?
>slow mon
>offensive typing
It's the same bulky Ice type meme repeated.
>the king survived the raid
Do you guys think he'll centralize the PU meta too much?
>>32952772
Fuck off.
>>32952772
fuck off old man
>>32951432
It's true that it's ugly and unpopular though.
>>32956145
Opinions, opinions. If that's what you want to spout out as "constructive", then people who shit on Decidueye and Primarina have also been quite constructive.
>>32956184
>bringing Decidueye and Primarina up for literally no reason
Stop inciting starter wars.
>>32956191
The OP itself is inciting a starter war. Posts like mine - which, in my defense, wasn't even trying to start a war as much as pointing shit out - is the natural consequence of it.
>>32956255
Please show me where OP mentioned any pokemon from the Decidueye line or Primarina line.
>>32956262
You don't really need to mention another side to start a war, dear. A simple act of aggression is more than enough, and;
>ITT: We laugh at PU shitmons
>shit defenses
>ugly and unpopular
>garbage mistyping, making it even worse
>fanbase and fanart consists of bara, fart and diaper fetishists
>Also the wordings for everything else
OP has enough of that to go for everyone.
>>32956318
Voicing criticism =/= Starting a war. This is not some kind of a hugbox board where criticism somehow equals aggression.
OP should have stated it wasn't a starter war thread. It's not an incorrect assessment that Incineroar is a bad Pokemon to use, but Decidueye and Primarina, while not excellent by most means, are indeed miles ahead.
>>32956327
When half of OP criticism points are ever false, modified truth or just a matter of opinion, it's kinda asking for a starter war.
Kinda like going in a church and screaming "I don't believe in god".
>>32956327
Voicing criticism should also be done as civil as possible, otherwise it's indistinguishable from an act of aggression; which, I should remind you is what the OP practically is.
>outclassed by Tsareena in every way
>outclassed by Serperior as a Contrary user
>outlcassed by SERVINE as a contrary user
>outclassed as a defogger by any other defogger that will eventually be in PU
Lurantis really didn't deserve this. And people say Flygon got cucked.
>>32956642
I know people say it needs Earth Power, but I think Superpower would go a lot farther since it actually has some semblance of a physical movepool already
>>32956684
>Earth Power
I'm so sick of this fucking meme. Only two Pokemon get Earth Power that aren't mineral types or legendaries, Hydreigon and Sunflora. One is a pseudo and the other is a shitmon at least somewhat connected to earth.
People need to stop begging for Earth Power, it's not happening.
>>32956742
Well shit, its a really fucking good attack and it has a tutor. Though i'm certainly glad that some Pokemon didn't get it
>>32956742
FUCK YOU NIGGER! I JUST WANT A RELIABLE SPECIAL GROUND TYPE ON NON-GROUND TYPES! GIVE TYPHLOSION EARTH POWER ALREADY!!!
>>32956642
>outclassed by Tsareena in every way
This really annoyed me. I never expected it to be competitively viable, but I at least wanted to use it in my playthrough, but I couldn't justify it when Frootkween was objectively superior