Besides the Pokémon themselves, dungeons are the most important

dungeon in pokemon were never good, it just happens that now they don't even exist

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>>32931957

>mfw i expected a big dungeon in wela volcano path, but it's just a trainer battle and a cave teleporting you to kiawe

>>32931979
I know that feeling, bro. I hope for a true dungeon in USUM, not just a linear path with three patches of grass and a trainer...

I think they do add a feeling of challenge, but really the experience is of being delayed and desperately wanting to progress to the exit. I think the best dungeons contain strong trainers or unique Pokemon and an obvious and elegant movement puzzle. Ice Cave is really the only one that gets a pass in my opinion, that isn't tedious or uninteresting.

>>32931957
whats the one in the bottom middle?

>>32932119
>being delayed
You can't be delayed when you're already at the point you want to be, which is exploring the dungeon.

>>32932119
which is not to say that the distortion world or meteor falls aren't good for their atmospheres - their graphics and music

>>32932120
Stark Mountain in Platinum, it looks different from D/P.

>>32931957
Fuck the Tin Tower and the bullshit teleporters it had, it should've been the one that burned down.

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>>32931979
>mfw the way down is longer than the way up
I hope they just didn't have the time to work on it in SM and try to put something in USUM

>>32932146
teleporters are the worst "puzzle" always

>>32932119
I think all of johto's were pretty good. Dark cave was a pain but gsc union cave and mt mortar were so mysterious and like blended the outside and inside together well, with multiple exists, so it didn't seem like one pointless mess

>>32931979
I was so disappointed when i first played through the game and expected the same thing, it was like a slap in the face.

>>32931957
Dungeons in Pokémon have basically never been good.
>Strength puzzle
>Teleport tile puzzle
>Spinning tile puzzle/Ice sliding puzzle
>Literally just a regular route but indoors and with random encounters everywhere instead of in patches of grass
I just described basically every dungeon in the series. There are exceptions, but they shouldn't be exceptions in the first place. They should be the rule.

>>32932288
>not moving panels

>>32932119
To me, all the Tapu Caves are dungeons because they feature: An obvious Strength Puzzle, a Unique Pokemon at the end, and it makes me desperately want to progress to the exit because it's so fucking boring.

>>32932821
they're pretty much the same thing anyway, trial and error where you just step on a tile and let the game dictate where you end up

>>32932803
would you prefer routes that straight lines with optional patches of grass flanking the sides?
A conveniently placed pokemon center so you can go heal after every battle?

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This is why we need the Battle Pyramid back

It's like Mystery Dungeon built into the main game itself
We just need one area like that, something randomly generated that can keep the exploration factor going forever

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>>32931979
>>32932151

I'm definetly expecting to see Wela Volcano expanded,
I think there were even a few caves you could see the entrances too but not explore yourself

Same with Brooklet Hill