>iron fist boosts punching moves by 20% >tough claws boosts

Yeah. It should be reversed.

>>32888191
Good idea! We shall make the following changes in USUM:
>Iron Fist now reduces the damage punching moves by 20%
>Tough Claws now reduces the damage of all contact moves by 30%

>>32888191
>wanting to nerf Metagross and charizard
Literally kys

Iron Fist should double the power of punching moves and ignore the target's stat changes

>>32888207
That's a great reason though

>>32888169
>>32888208
Let's buff Conkeldurr when it don't deserve buffs, yes.

>>32888248
>when it don't deserve buffs
what did Conkeldurr do to you

>>32888169
>Iron Fist now boosts all punching moves by 20 BP

>buff ability
>good pokemon with ability still outclass shit pokemon with it
Every fucking time

>>32888208
That's overkill. A 50% boost would do it.

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>>32888248
>B rank UU
>doesn't deserve buffs

>>32888248
Conkeldurr does deserve buffs. It's not our fault that pretty much any buff you consider for Hitmonchan, another better pokemon benefits significantly more from your proposal

>>32888281
The point is that iron fist is just a worse tough claws, giving a smaller boost to less moves (16 in total)

Then there's fluffy, which is just a worse fur coat