>the guy who takes artistic artistic liberties like this

>>32887648
I highly doubt that the Pokemon company would allow for pillbug voltorbs

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lmao

>guy who does the best realistic pokemon takes part in a movie that needs realism for live-action
>this is somehow a bad thing

????

>>32887689
t. Arvalis

>>32887694

t. shitter who thinks pokemon with realistic textures = realistic

Go fap over the ugly Pokken models if that's what you want.

>>32887701
there's a difference between making a realistic interpretation of a pokemon and completely changing the core design of one

>>32887648
Is Danny Devito the VO for the USA version?? Please tell me this happened.

>>32887648
Wait so the detective pikachu movie is going to have realistic-looking pokemon? huh. I had assumed they would use semi-realistic pokemon (the same design as always but with realistic textures for fur and stuff).

Oh well, let's see how this turns out. I'll actually get a chuckle if arvalis' interpretation of mr. mime, froslass or any of the eeveelutions appear in the movie. Just look them up, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Can't wait to see this trainwreck in theaters. Hopefully I can get a new cinema falcon before then.

>>32887720
No, sadly Daddy DeVito isn't on board. He doesn't even know what a pikachu is.

You think one guy who's getting his first film credit as an artist can get through the Pokemon Company's guidelines about how they're supposed to be presented? Are you dumb?

>>32887760
FUCK. I NEEDED THIS. we couldve just told him its a mutant squirrel he wouldve been fine with it.

>>32887760
>We could have had DeVito voicing detective pikachu completely unaware of what a pikachu or a pokemon even is
What's the point anymore

>>32887648
Good for him. I want to believe /vp/ will get buttmad over the final product but buttmad hype is always good.

>>32887716

this. Arvalis changes the design

>>32887716
Obviously the core design is changed in a lot of Arvalis' work. It's meant to be fit in real life in the most feasible way. Surprise surprise, a floating ice cream cone only works in a cartoon environment. He adapted it in a way that would make at least some sense in the natural world.

I dont know why everyone throws an autism fit over it. It's not like anyone's claiming that Vanilluxe IS an arachnid. It was clearly just some project done for fun.

Hey WAIT.

Satoshi tajiri is directing the movie? Is that true or a joke?

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>>32887648
>>32887688
>they look like SMT demons

>>32887824
floating ice cream WORKS in 3d concept. He just changed the design. Period.

>>32887824
or you know you could make the ice cream cone what it actually is, an ice spike with snow on top that happens to be sentient

>>32887850
>Works in 3D

Okay. You can make it work as a 3 dimensional object, but that doesn't mean it makes sense as a realistic, living being.

A floating, sentient ice cream cone doesn't make sense as a realistic animal. Period.

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>>32887648
I hate these "realistic pokemon" things that go out of their way to make Pokemon look repulsive.

I'm pretty sure they're just trying to get on a buzzfeed list or something.

>>32887824
counterpoint - he's changing shit just to change it.

he turned ArCANINE into a Liger, and Abomasnow into an Owlbear which is also a fictional creature

>>32887648
>concept artist
Wow it's fucking nothing

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>>32887881

>>32887881
Some people just like drawing repulsive shit. Damn, /vp/ doesn't know shit about art, eh?

>>32887887
>he turned ArCANINE into a Liger

Yeah, well, ArCANINE is based off of a Komainu, which is literally based off of Lions, Tigers and Dogs. So a Liger is a pretty god damn good pick.

>>32887873
>A floating, sentient ice cream cone doesn't make sense as a realistic animal.
You're right, that isn't realistic at all. Let's change it to a SPIDER that shoots ice and looks like an ice cream cone. That's MUCH more realistic.

>>32887939
I mean, yeah, that is actually way the fuck closer to something realistic. It's actually a fucking animal, for one. If youre judging your closeness to real life animals, something that is an animal will always be way the fuck closer to an animal than something thats not.

Obviously its not 100%, absolutely, no questions asked feasible. Questions about size and sustainability pop up. None of this shit could actually lose fire or electricity or anything. But its still a hell of a lot more feasible to a real, functioning animal, especially visually, which this DESIGN project is meant to be.

Youre taking a fun design project and autistically raging because its not exactly the same as the source material when it was explicitly meant to NOT be the same in the first place.

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>>32887913
this one's not that bad

>>32887689
disgusting and abhorrent != realistic
his stupid shit is just as retarded and unrealistic as the original design, it just looks uglier to boot

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OCTOPUS TREES

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>this entire thread

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>>32887991
This one annoys me the most because he could have at least made the octopus parts black or like some kind of leech. Trevenant doesn't even have tentacles, it has spidery legs

>>32887991
the worst of all the is sword pokemon turned into a bug

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>>32887991
>Vulpix and Ninetales
>supposed to be foxes
>draw them as wolves, instead

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MAGNETIC CRABS

>>32887873
they are not animals, they are pokemons.

>>32887991
I want to be upset at this but at the same time I gotta appreciate the fact that it's a reference to the Pacific Northwest tree octopus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest_tree_octopus

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>>32888110

BATS

>>32887833
It clearly tells you in the link he's not directing it and that he's just producing it.

>>32888458
now looking at it, it says just that he is the creator of the pokemon concept, right? Or ssatoshi will produce the movie as well?

Why they are making a movie about a game that doesn't even got localized yet?
They should get focused on the games.

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>>32887648
So, you're telling me, they're planning on making a pokemon version of the 90s Super mario bros live action movie?

>DUDE WHAT IF EVERY POKEMON WAS A BUG IRL LMAO

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>>32887913
>>32887975
See why can't we have more like these?

These look realistic without looking like they were made for a "These realistic Pokemon will shock you!" article.

>>32887716
>>32887815
>and completely changing the core design of one

no shit. Pokemon aren't realistic. You have to change it for it to be realistic.

>>32887887
>>32887850
>counterpoint - he's changing shit just to change it.

No he's not. Everything he does has a reason for it. Vanilluxe is a spider because the spider shape fits and it can have a vertical orientation by being on a web. A floating icicle isn't realistic.

>he turned ArCANINE into a Liger
Because Arcanine has stripes and tigers have stripes. Canine is a pointed tooth. The thing he drew has pointed teeth. It's not a stretch at all.

Would you blame someone for drawing a realistic SandSHREW to look like a pangolin instead?

>>32887701
>>32887824
>>32888810
Arvalis please leave

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>>32888793

A lot of his "realistic pokemon" are just redesigning them to be ugly af. The faggot turned Chansey into a fucking lizard or something

>>32887932
>>32888810
and yet none of your address the goddamn owlbear

>>32888810
arvalis has talent and he is creative. But those are not great depictions of pokemon.

>>32889058
>But those are not great depictions of pokemon.

Yes they are. They're a fuckton better than
>LOL JUST LITERALLY DRAW THE POKEMON BUT IT HAS REALISTIC TEXTURE XD

>>32888810
Vanilluxe may somewhat match a spider in shape, but not in movement at all.

it's an incredibly shallow choice.

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>this thread

>>32889093
>but not in movement at all.

It's a fucking floating ice cream cone. A spider is as close as you can get.

>>32889101
he's already made flying deep sea creatures - why not one of those?

>>32887991
This guy needs to learn a thing or two from comic books.

There's making something more realistic, but there's a point where you have to say "this is impossible and there is no way to make it even seem feasible without ruining the original idea". Like how there is no way Superman can fly, it's just impossible, so trying to explain how he flies is counter intuitive.

With Pokémon, you can make them look like animals, but when you get to the Psychic and Ghost types and the ones that are living rocks or what have you, that's where you need to play it straight, because when you try to explain to me "Oh it's not a ghost sword, it's just a giant bug that looks like a sword" or "it's not a haunted tree it's just a giant octopus that lives in trees", that's a completely different fucking thing.

Instead you need to focus on making the haunted sword look like a real thing, or figuring out how a living rock would actually move in real life, like how with Superman you stop worrying about HOW he flies or HOW he shoots lasers out of his eyes and instead figure out what it would look like IF a person could fly or IF he could shoot lasers out of his eyes.

/autism

>>32888668
Oh fuck that's actually what would happen if they used these designs.

>>32889114
because none of them are shaped like vanilluxe.

>>32889142
>This guy needs to learn a thing or two from comic books.
comic books don't try to be realistic.

>>32889180
Neither is this movie if Pikachu is going to retain his normal design.

>>32889180
No, since the 80's most superheroes strive to have rules and explanations for powers. It's in the movies as well.

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>>32889044
Well how would you draw a realistic Abomasnow?

>>32889488
Having rules doesn't make it realistic.

>>32889530
if he's gonna make an exception for abomasnow why not for any of the other shit for finding a real world creature.

>>32889180
a damn lot of them are - such as those bizzare tentacle-less jellies

He'll end up clashing with the Pokemon Company over how off-model he's allowed to be, and either he'll leave halfway through or his designs will be a disappointing half-step that nobody's happy with.

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>>32888793
these are bretty good
every dinosaur based sceptile I've seen looks retarded

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>Ol' magnet crabs.
>Helping with live action pokemon designs.

Well, grats on one end, dread on the other.

>>32887664
>pillbug voltorbs
This dude does armadillos

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>>32887689
Would have preferred something in this vein, honestly.

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>>32887648
I respect him for not trying to turn Flygon into some mecha insect abomination like most realfags do.

>>32889877
dude loves dinosaurs.

>>32887990
>disgusting and abhorrent != realistic
True, but you must be thinking of someone else. Because this guy actually tries to make them look realistic in the true sense of the word, except for pretending the square-cube law don't exist.

>>32890987
Arvalis please go to bed already

>>32887990
>disgusting and abhorrent

None of his designs are this unless they need to be. Are you one of those faggots who think the only good realistic designs are cute shit?

>>32887648
why honestly care? the movie's going to be garbage either way

>>32891037
I'm just saying that if you think he goes out of his way to make them as disgusting as possible like >>32887881 does then you're an idiot.

>>32889734
that's because sceptile has no feathers ;)

>>32889877
>Cacnea
>literally a walking cactus
>a frog
Why does literally everything have to become a fucking animal to this guy? They're called pocket monsters and not pocket animals for a reason. A lot of people complaining about too many inanimate objects don't seem to understand that either.

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>makes the Lati@, which are dragons, into birds
>make Yveltal, which is a bird, into a dragon
What the fuck is this guy's problem?

>>32891173
It's like he does it on fucking purpose.

>>32888810
Fucking hell, why are you so defensive over a deviantart shitter?

>>32891173
Dinosaurs are dragons and birds are dinosaurs, therefore dragons are birds.

>>32891173
That Yveltal looks like some proto-bird to me.

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>>32891310
That's not how clades work dipshit. The only dinosaur with wings remotely like that is Yi qi.

>>32891173
Latias have feathers and looks like birds more than dragons

>Some artfag shits up pokemon designs to make them "realistic"
>deviantart autists desperately defend his crap

Like clockwork.

>>32891310
>Dinosaurs are birds
And humans are monkeys too right?
Well, at least you are since clearly you didn't evolve

>>32891427
Humans are Simians.

>>32891427
Apparently, it's the reverse thing; the birds ARE dinosaur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds

PS: If by "monkey", you mean ape, then yes, human are monkey

>>32891173
>Latias used Reflect Type
I got nothing for Latios

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>>32887648
You know what?

Good for him.
I don't like his realistic designs, but being noticed enough to have your skills in demand is how you win. Congratulations, Arvalis.

>>32891403
>some artfag draws what he wants
>/vp/ gets triggered and endlessly cries to how he "ruined" pokemon designs

what thread are you in, m8?

>>32891427
All birds are dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds.

>>32891258
Because he's the artist taking advantage of this being an anonymous board to defend himself, even though his posts make it painfully obvious it's him.

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>>32887648
>>32887991
>>32888110
>>32889877
>it HAS to be an animal otherwise it's not "realistic"

>>32887648
I'm obviously in the minority here, but I actually love this guys drawings. For ages i've wished for an "adult" reboot of Pokemon because the fact that they designed for children is largely what's stopping the games from being good (though i realise this will never happen).
Anyway, if such a thing were to be created, it would be nice to have creatures that were actually "monsters", creatures that that are more horrifying and less cartoony and these are all really cool re-imaginings of Pokemon, even if they aren't sticking to the original inspiration

>>32887648
I've always hated realistic Pokemon designs and this is no exception.

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>>32887648
>all the shit taste ITT
Jesus christ that's sad

>Deviantart artist gets to work on official Pokemon material
This is terrible. I've always dreaded the idea of pokemon fans working for GF, because they have absolutely no idea about what makes pokemon great in the first place. This board alone and the people who use it is proof of it.
>And it's fucking octopustree-swordbug Arvalis
This is the worst timeline, confirmed.

>>32889988
that flygon is a chameleon tho

>>32892291
Making them realistic animals is the point of the project, there's no such thing as a living magnet, so some liberties have to be taken with the design.

In my opinion this makes for a far more interesting realistic pokemon than just making the original artwork slightly more detailed i;e >>32888793

>>32891084
Say what you want about his choices for what animals he turns things into, but holy shit, can people not understand a theme when they see one? The entire theme of his series is to reimagine Pokémon as realistic animals. The guy's obsessed with taxonomy and stuff.
I definitely wouldn't want these designs in a live action movie, but I can at least appreciate them for what they are.

>>32891173
Lati@s mention having feathers in their dex entries. Yveltal's design here is based on Yi Qi which is a prehistoric bird. Maybe people should read the descriptions sometimes. They usually have explanations for designs even if they don't always make sense.

>>32891902
>yfw vp constantly shiting on arvalis inadvertently gave him more traffic which caught the attention of Legendary

>>32892443
>Making them realistic animals is the point of the project, there's no such thing as a living magnet, so some liberties have to be taken with the design.
>machines don't exist

>>32892443
>trevenant becomes an octopus thing
but living trees exist!
trees that can move, on other hand

>>32892559
Machines are not alive, you should know this

>>32892643
Magnemite is clearly a machine. You should know this.

>>32892653
No need to be so autistic about it, like I said the point of the project is to make the pokemon into realistic animals, machines are not animals and also not alive, it's really not that hard to understand Anon.
In the art style of the game Magnemite could be a machine, but it doesn't really look that much different than lets say diglet or something. But arvalis didn't want to just make magnemite a robot. what could magnemite be if it was an animal? That was what Arvilis was trying to design, not "whelp it looks like a machine, so I guess I'll just make it a machine"

Jesus christ dude, do you have any imagination?

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this is the best realistic vanillite line until know. The artist redisigned it as well and made stragihtly an ice cream with face, but better than arvalis spider. It's still an ice cream

>>32892496
>Maybe people should read the descriptions sometimes
>literally all he does is making penis jokes and saying how he doesn't like a pokemon

>>32892443
>Making them realistic animals is the point of the project, there's no such thing as a living magnet
If the project is making all of the pokemon adapted into animals the fine.
But in the pokemon world, where there are monkeys that have never ending fire coming out of their butts and heads and cats with eyes in their ears can use psychic powers to make you levitate, you can't tell me i can't have a god damn living magnet, especially when there's already MAN MADE POKEMON that can float and be upgraded with disk.

>>32892739
if the point is redesign a pokemon, that's alright. But Pokemon are creative on it's own, what's the point of changing someting that already are creatures of a fantasy world?

>>32892765
>what's the point of changing someting that already are creatures of a fantasy world?
To make it more realistic

>>32892384
He will be directed for sure. More likely he will put texture and other stuff on pokemons, and that's it. Also as far i know, he is not working for game freak. It's a tv studio.

>>32889142
you said everything.

>>32887648
Guys it probably isn't as bad as you think. He could just be doing "police sketches" of the Pokemon

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>>32889530

>>32891929
birds are dragons

>>32892759
>But in the pokemon world
Of course some liberties are taken from the designs, because they're pokemon, no real creature can live with a fucking parasitic plant growing on its back or with it's tail permanently on fire, but in arvalis's designs they get reduced to their most logical least magical form, aka "if a creature would get mistaken for a ghost or a robot or something, what could it actually be?"
I don't get why you are so butt blasted about this, there is tons of boring hyper detailed "realistic" pokemon designs out there, here this guy is who actually takes it a step further and doesn't take the lazy way of literally designing nothing, just retexturing the original design and actually makes interesting designs and ideas instead and here you are complaining that magnemite is not an actual magnet.

>when there's already MAN MADE POKEMON that can float and be upgraded with disk.
Arvalis doesn't take everything in pokemon lore literally, read some of the descriptions for his designs, he usually explains how he came to his ideas pretty well.
I would actually be really interested to see what he would do with porygon, he might make it actually artificial or something, that would be nice to see

>>32892808
wtf i like abomasnow now

>>32892746
That doesn't look like a realistic Vanillish at all. It's just an ice cream cone with cartoon eyes slapped on.

>>32892808
that's terrible

>>32892851
actually as far i know no one designed a good realistic vanilish at all until now. I like this pokemon, but it's not very popular

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>>32892746

>>32892845
By that logic, you may as well make any movie that has aliens or fantasy creatures into regular animals just because it doesn't fit the artist's line of plausibility.

>>32892869
That's not realistic either. Like, not even close. It's just a Vanillish drawn in an alt style.

Now I see the problem. You faggots don't even understand what "realistic" means.

>>32889530
Like a pill bug

>>32892882
it's semi realisitic.

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>>32892746
Vanilite and its line has always been the cone. The "ice cream" is just coating, not the creature itself.

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Now this is a realistic Vanilluxe!

>>32892879
>into regular animals

But the things he draws aren't regular animals. They're still clearly fictional. It's just that they're realistic.

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>>32892879
>By that logic, you may as well make any movie that has aliens or fantasy creatures into regular animals
I would love to see that, it would be really interesting to see what people could do with that idea
>just because it doesn't fit the artist's line of plausibility.
Ehm no, just because that is the idea behind the project, to make fantasy monsters into plausible animals, how is that bad?
To be honest I'm taken a bit aback by your response and I'm not quite sure what to think of it
>might as well make a bunch of really good quality artwork of realistic fantasy creatures with plausible anatomy and ecology worked into each design
Oof yeah oh man that would be a real bummer, yeah I would hate to see that
wtf dude

>>32892808
that's rad

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>>32892915
You are wrong.

>>32892882
I posted the concept of what a realistic vanilitte would look like. Of course that's not realistic.

I already mentioned that just two artists tried to make a realistic vanilitte and both intentionally redesigned them

>>32892911
It's not even close to semi realistic

>>32892935
define semi-realistic because we have different concepts.

>>32892935
Enlighten us then.

>>32892943
this is semi-realistic>>32888793

>>32892958
Explain the difference because I'm blind.

>>32892958
Thanks for showing that you have no idea what semi realistic mean

>>32892975
One is slightly more anatomically correct and realistic towards how an animal would look the other is just the original design with more shading, you retard

>>32893010
What's the problem some people can't understand that Pokemon ARENT animals?

Making them animals don't make them realistic

As for the pic, both are semi realistic for different reasons

One has shade, texture, is in 3d
The other is in draw style with animal proportions

>arvalis is STILL here defending himself while pretending it's another person

>>32891310
Who in the fuck ever said a dinosaur is a dragon? That's stretching to say the least

>>32888167
honestily like the gengar one

>>32893030
That's not the point, if I shade a cartoon character that doesn't make it realistic, it's just a bit more 3d than usual. A less animalistic pokemon would work as well as long as it doesn't look like a fucking cartoon, this really shouldn't be that difficult to grasp anon

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the best ones are just detail-work on the original like pic related

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>>32893110
dumping a few good ones

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>>32893137

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>>32893144

>>32893090
No one ever claimed that pic is realistic. It's not realistic it's semi realistic. The face is cartoonist, but the work it's not just a shady cartoon.

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>>32893157

>>32893169
It's not even semi realistic, shading does not realism make
We just have fundamentally different views of realism, which is weird since we live in the same reality

>>32893144
I love this artist

>>32893211
>which is weird since we live in the same reality
...art is subjective, you twit.

I always felt like the detailed designs in Pokken were bit uncanny, but it is still much better than trying to make Pokémon realistic when they aren't even based on animals.

I seriously pray we just get semi-realistic Pokémon.

>>32893137
>>32893144
>>32893157
>>32893178

You see this is realistic Pokemon. Not taking a Pokemon then turning it into an animal it's not.

But taking feature that it would have, like scales, jaw structure and muscles, then adding to the design to create a Pokemon that still looks less or the original, but also realistic.

>>32887648
I am actually okay with this. Now I know to ignore everything about the movie because now it's confirmed that it's gonna suck balls. It pleases me.

>>32887881
That's a fuckin penis on its forehead

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>>32893137
great idea. I'll dump good realistic pokemon art too

>>32892830
you're a dragon

'realistic' pokemon just means "add a texture to it" instead of it being flat/smooth/empty
i don't know what to call what he does
re-imagining?

I actualy love this dudes "realistic" wierd designs and the pseudo-scientific explanations for their ablities, he usualy throws in jokes here and there, because he's just thinking u[p what sort of animal could POSSIBLY resemble a chandelier and get away with it.
But then sometimes he'll just go "magnemites are hover-crabs" and leave it at that.

All the autismshitters are almost comically missing the point of his redesigns, it's a labour of love, and he likes to have fun with it. it's not even canon anyway, calm down.

>>32892795
And he's wrong on everything because by nature this is just some dude having fun with weird reimagenings of pokemon into animals in his spare time as a hobby, there is no need to sperg out like that just because you think he's trying to make pokemon "too realistic"

>>32893334
This ^

If they vary too much from the original design they will alienate the entire fanbase - so it's easier to just give realistic textures to pre-existing designs.

>>32893449
>alienate the entire fanbase
do you listen to yourself before you talk or do you just project your opinions on everyone else and spout nonsense?

>>32892443
> there's no such thing as a living magnet
so? none of that shit that has been drawn is real either, you're mixing realism with fantasy monsters the point is to give them details that makes them look less like a cartoon and more detailed like they'd look if they came from our dimension instead of spinning the wheel and wonder what random animal you're gonna turn Bronzong into

>>32887689
>wanting Pokeman to get Bayformered

>>32889080
>>32888810
So if you wanted to make a cartoon depiction of a cat, you would have to completely change the core concept of what it is?

>>32893492
It's not about spinning a wheel, it's about thinking up what kind of real-life animal COULD possibly resemble a bronzong, it's not supposed to be just a more detailed representation of a pokemon. It's like you're wringing your brain into all these wierd shapes to try and come up with objective reasons as to why you don't like what he's doing with his redesigns.

>>32893652
if he drew realistic tom & jerry
he'd draw them as a dog and a crab
and people here would go to the mat to defend it and call it better than the original

>>32893652
No, it's about what you could do with the "feline electro-cat" concept giving a different, interesting spin to it. Of course a realistic cartoon cat is just going to be a regular cat, but pokemon aren't cats. And when you got a floating half-red, half-white sphere with eyes the practice is to try and find an animal in there somewhere. That's what he's doing.

>>32893681
He'd turn them into a cat and a mouse, but realistic tom&jerry fan-art isn't really a thing anyway so the point is moot.

This topic reads like a lot of people butthurt over one pokemon fan getting to work on the franchise in some form over them.

>>32891084
>succ plants have eyes

>>32893743
It reads a lot like autists trying to pretend their opinions are fact. Because they just can't handle people liking things they don't.

>>32893589
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Those are great Pokemon art

>>32893717
Nothing you just said is even coherent.

>>32893743
Now every criticism is jealously
Great agumentation

>>32893555
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>>32893137

See stuff like this is cool. It's kinda like DND or Magic where they have fantasy designs done in a 'realistic' way. The other guy's pokemon feel wrong because he's trying way too hard to make them into super grotesque 100% real life organic animal hybrids and a lot of the initial design gets lost in the process. If he went a little more into the fantasy angle with them they'd look cool and he has the chops to pull it off.. but instead you get magnetic crabs and >>32887881 a jigglypuff that looks like a swollen penis.

Protip: If you look at a redesign and can't tell who or what it's supposed to be in an instant without having it explained to you, it's a bad redesign.

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>>32887689
Fucking kill yourself
Arvalis and his fanboys are the reason we can't have realistic Pokémon threads anymore, they always flood the threads with his shitty "dude what if I turned a tree into a jellyfish LMAO IT'S REALISTIC YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG" bullshit

>>32893526
This isn't realistic. They just literally drew Avalugg with more shading.

>>32893555
>>32893578
These aren't realistic either.

alt style != realistic

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Does this count as a Realistic Pokémon?

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>>32893923
>Arvalis and his fanboys are the reason we can't have realistic Pokémon threads anymore, they always flood the threads

More like arvalis haters always just get butthurt about people posting arvalis art and then start sperging out even though he's one of the only ones that actually does realistic designs right.

>>32893942
You are part of the problem

>>32893946
So is >>32893923

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>>32893908
>>32887881 isn't even the same artist you faggot.

>>32893970
That's not even a possible musculature/skeletal structure. Not to mention it's horribly off-balance.
Fuck off.

>>32887648
You can´t create a good realistic pokemon design from an already bad design

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Remember that time a drawfag made a parody of Arvalis' shit and his fanboys got really buttblasted about it saying "IT'S NOT THE SAME FUCK YOU"

>>32893903
Maybe you should read again, try using your brain this time.
Maybe a dictionary would help?
>hurrr i'm not even going to try and retort because I got nothing so i'll just say what he said made no sense and be done with him, that'll prove me right.

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>>32893977
I like Arvalis' Blastoise.

Mostly because of how he makes the giant water cannons plausible: Dual siphons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon_(mollusc)

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>>32894001
Because it's not the same. Arvalis' picks make sense and still resemble the actual pokemon in terms of shape. The artist who did that just took a shrimp and added shaymin details even though there's not even a remote resemblance. Also he only changes Pokemon to different animals if the Pokemon isn't based on an animal. If he did shaymin he'd just make it a hedgehog.

>>32893923
No one is doing that, no one is saying the non-arvalis redesigns are wrong or shit, they're just posting arvalis stuff and people sperg out at it because they can't fucking handle new ideas

>>32894009
You said that turning a cat into a completely different animal is ok because there's no way to turn a red and white ball into a real animal. Two things that are completely fucking unrelated. It was incoherent. You are a retard. Kill yourself.

>>32887689
It's not really a good sign when what's clearly supposed to be the face of the pokemon isn't even a real face in the redesign >>32887648

>>32894051
That's not even close to what i said you tard

>>32894023
Anon I said in that very same post that you would sperg out and you did it anyway
Try breaking stereotypes next time
>Also he only changes Pokemon to different animals if the Pokemon isn't based on an animal
Arcanine

>>32889856
>>32893923
>>32887990
>EVERY REALISTIC POKEMON HAS TO BE CUTE OTHERWISE IT ISN'T REALISTIC

lol look at this fish it isn't realistic at all! fuck nature for making this abhorrent piece of shit!

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>>32894092

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>>32894092
It's not a matter of looking cute or not, it's a matter of not changing trees into fucking octopodes.

If you were doing a bug Vanillish, a bagworm-esque creature would have made more sense. It could live in snow regions and cover itself in snow for camouflage, with the icicle naturally forming when the daytime slightly thaws the snow.

The smiley face spider just feels lazy.

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>>32894085
>giving an explanation that explains how he's wrong = sperging out

fuck off.

>Arcanine
>Arcanine is based on the Ryukyuan シーサー shisa, or 狛犬 komainu, mythical creatures inspired by lions, tigers, and dogs
>tigers

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>>32894116
See, you're still doing it.

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>>32894107
>it's a matter of not changing trees into fucking octopodes

walking trees aren't realistic.

>>32894126
Arvalis when are you going to go to bed

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>>32894124
Doing what? Debunking your shitty non-argument?

>>32894107
It's not even about that, It's about people bitching about things they don't like.
How about instead of bitching about arvalis' stuff being posted because you don't like it. You just post and look at the stuff you DO like, which is also in the very same thread, like you are posting realistic non-arvalis mons RIGHT NOW and people keep on bitching. This conversation is pointless

>>32894001
kek

I don't get why anons have a hardon for this guy. He's got amazing technical skills but a shit creative process where most of the mons look NOTHING like the original and the result is so far removed from the initial design you can't even look at it and instantly figure out what it's supposed to be half the time.

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>B-B-BUH WHY HE TURN A MANTIS INTO A DINOSAUR

because Scyther still has a bunch of extremely obvious dinosaur elements in its design. Fuck off because I just know some retard is going to reply with this shit.

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>>32894124
Look what I pulled up googling Komainu

>>32894131
Sperging out. You literally just made a post about "ARCANINE ISN'T A DOG FUCK YOU ARVALIS DID NOTHING WRONG" while acting as if making Shaymin a shrimp isn't the same leap of logic. Some species of shrimp can grow moss and other plants on their exoskeleton, which would explain why Shaymin has plants on its back, meanwhile there are no species of hedgehog that I'm aware of that can grow plants over their quills.
https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/bamboo-shrimp-growing-algae-moss-on-his-exoskeleton.183874/
Tell me how that's not a similar design philosophy to "trees can't walk so let's make it an octopus because octopodes can walk"

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>>32894142
>you can't even look at it and instantly figure out what it's supposed to be half the time.

Get glasses.

>>32894143
>>32894129
>>32894126

>some angry sperg is going to spend the rest of his afternoon posting all of arvalis' art because some people don't like it

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>>32894154
>Shaymin a shrimp isn't the same leap of logic

No because the shrimp's shape looks nothing like shaymin's. Try reading my posts first before making a shitty argument.

He used an octopus because using an octopus allows it to squeeze into the tree parts, simulate Trevenant's mono eye, and also get the multiple legs.

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>>32894154
Because the fucking Fire dogcat thing is based on a mythological beast that is literally a mix of both dogs and cats and Shaymin is a friggin Hedgehog

It's not like he made Arcanine look like a giraffe

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>>32894155
FUCKING GROTESQUE AND ABHORRENT CAT

FUCK NATURE FOR MAKING THIS """""REALISTIC""""" DESIGN

>>32891310
And the moon is clouds.

>>32894156
>the entire thread is derailed by people bitching at each other about liking or disliking things they like or dislike.
it started with an arvalis pic, in a post about arvalis, come on dude.

>>32894201
HE TURNED A SWINE BASED POKEMON INTO A SWINE BASED ANIMAL

FUCKING ARVALIS WHY IS HE ALWAYS CHANGING THINGS INTO THINGS THAT LOOK NOTHING LIKE THE POKEMON FUCK THAT GUY

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>>32894178
>the shrimp's shape looks nothing like shaymin's
Shrimps both have long noses, black eyes, white underbellies sometimes. Shaymin has no quills so it's not very hedgehog-like in that regard, and as mentioned before shrimp can grow plants on their exoskeletons. Yeah, you might say Shaymin looks a bit closer to a hedgehog, but it can't realistically be a hedgehog for the above reasons. Making Shaymin a shrimp allows the artist to create a more realistic depiction of Shaymin while keeping all its iconic traits.

>>32894258
*Shrimps and hedgehogs both have

>>32894216
One of the instances where he actually sticks to the source material. More often than not he does a shit job

>>32891084
>>32892291
No it has to be an animal otherwise it doesn't fit the theme of the project.

Why are you this mad that someone is making designs you don't like?

>>32894258
A shrimp is a long skinny shape. A hedgehog is closer to a circular shape. Stop pretending you have a point with this incredibly shitty example.

>>32892746
This looks terrible, its the most boring design imaginable, literally just an ice cream cone with a cartoon face.

>>32893961
>Unironically drawing a mewtwo dick

>still posting Arvalis
DUDE THE CLEARLY FUNCTIONING EYES AND MOUTH ON THIS POKÉMON ARE ACTUALLY JUST MARKINGS ON ITS BUTT LMAO

>>32894299
I think the features of the Pokémon are more important than the general shape, otherwise you could turn a mouse into a salamander just because they both have four legs and a tail.

>>32894201
I honestly can't tell what that leopard thing is supposed to be.

>>32894326
>otherwise you could turn a mouse into a salamander just because they both have four legs and a tail.

But he doesn't. He makes mice Pokemon mice and lizard Pokemon lizards. The only Pokemon he drastically changes are Pokemon that AREN'T based on animals because he needs them to be realistic. That shitty shrimp parody was done by a retard who doesn't understand what arvalis is doing.

>>32894258
>and as mentioned before shrimp can grow plants on their exoskeletons
Doesn't matter you retard. >>32893988 still has plant parts despite dinosaurs not growing plants on them.

>>32894379
It has purple fur on its back, so I think it's meant to be Raikou.

>>32894379
Raikou

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>>32894379
>yellow cat with purple on its back and a blue tail

are you retarded?

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>Jellyfish pokemon
>better make them squids

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FUCKING ARVALIS MAKING THE BARNACLE POKEMON A BARNACLE

THAT IS TOTALY DIFFERENT FROM THE POKEMON WAS MEANT TO BE FUCK HIM

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT BLUE ALLIGATOR SUPPOSED TO BE? I CAN'T TELL WHAT POKEMON IT IS AT ALL THIS ARTIST IS SHIT

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>>32894420
Yeah and he made the jellyfish Pokemon into jellyfish. What a fucking hack.

>>32894420
Well, Cool has a bit of a squid look, while you could say Cruel has some octopus influence.

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>>32888668
I think you meant to post this. I mean don't you think of gorillas when you think of Golurk?

>>32891373
Yeah, that one weird wyvern looking protobird.

I don't get why you people get so mad and angry and confused at such a simple project

>make pokemon realistic = making them animals for him
>is the pokemon based on an animal? Make it more like the animal than the pokemon
>is the pokemon based on a non-living object or plant based? Turn into an animal resembling that pokemon.

Sure every now and then he fucks up even that but not all ideas will be good. You may not like it in principle but i dont see why sperg out.

>>32894092
some pokemons are designed to look cute, other not. There's no point into turning a cute pokeon like for example bulbasaur into an ugly frog - Not sure if Arvalis did it, but i saw other artists doing it

>>32894500
Considering the name, that actually works incredibly well

>>32893977
and sooo...?

>>32894500
>>32894501
>>32894512
fugly

>>32894047
what in the name of satan is wrong whit its face?!

>>32894624
hater disguised as centrist found

>>32894379
underage fag detected. Go get some Gen II.
(if not underage and no idea what fs and hgss is, just retarded

>>32894001
He wouldn't do that for actual animal based Pokemon but I can believe that for anything else like Skiploom or Bellsprout or Jynx.

>>32894698
Arvalis disguised

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At least his aren't as bad as these

I'm not going to attempt the laborious task of addressing each post, but who's to say Arvalis' designs are going to be in the movie? He could still work on whatever he needs to using whatever rubric he's given to work with. Just because he showcases his own unique style for his own project doesn't mean he's incapable of creating anything else using different styles, etc. As a drawfag, I have developed my own style, but if asked I could draw, say, a Pikachu Butch Hartman style if asked. Assuming Arvalis truly is onboard (I've yet read the source on this), it is still unclear why he was sought out—they may have liked the way he draws reptilian features or numerous other things (for example).

>>32892937
okay ill give him this one

>>32895506
>Pheromosa

Yummy.

>>32889877
But Flygon has an actual reason to be a bug because it's based on a fucking bug.

>>32895531
Yup I already said that earlier. If he really is working in this movie arvalis won't put his design as he will work under direction.

>>32891173
Don't forget
Scyther is a dragon and Giratina is a bug.

>>32894314
its more like an umbilical chord

>>32895506
I actually like all of these except:

>Tsareena line
I get the idea, long leg pokemon = grasshopper, fine, but you literally cannot get a proper idea on what the actual pokemon looks like without knowing it beforehand just by looking at this representation of it, which is bad; if you show this purple grasshopper to a normie they'll 100% of the time say that it is a grasshopper pokemon, not a fruit pokemon. I'm not entirely sure if bounsweet and steenee are supposed to be 2 different cocoon stages or actual, unrelated species of fruit altogether.

>Buzzwole
Why turn what is very obviously a mosquito into a mole cricket or a mantis? the artist could have literally just made a species of giant tropical mosquito that has such a bulbous exoskeleton that it looks buff. Misses the point.

>Celesteela
It is pretty obvious that the artist's idea is to animalize all the pokemon and I can respect this goal, but for celesteela this just doesn't work unless you turn it into a very weird kind of giant, bagworm-looking mecha-insect. Xurkitree is represented for what it is, a weird tree, but celesteela just couldn't be kept as a sentient rocket, nope. This also applies for magearna, in a way.

>Guzzlord and Necrozma
These two are where you can see how the artist is struggling to animalize designs that are clearly not supposed to mesh well with real life creatures: in guzzlord's case, the only actual animal that doesn't look out of place to represent it is an anglerfish: the tiny details like the wings, second pair of arms and crown-like head can all be easily worked into things that an anglerfish would have. But they chose a crocodile-like reptile, included bat wings and small arms in the head that make no biological sense, and moved on. Makes me wonder why they could do this here and not for tsareena or celesteela.
Necrozma here looks like no animal I have knowledge of. Reminds me more of those humanoid bats from the future in primal than any actual animal that exists.

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>>32895774
Is this a better Tsareena?

>>32895845
It is better than the grasshopper, but the hindlegs should be connected to the thorax, not the abdomen. The way it is now it looks like a kamen raider kind of deal.

>>32895506
>all those things that become fucking bugs for no reason
>Guzzlord gets to stay a dragon
>Necrozma gets to become a dragon
Is this the guy who did that retarded dragon Hoopa?

>>32895567
Flygon is not based on a bug and it has no remotely bug like features, aside from arguably the wings. Vibrava certainly looks like a bug, but Flygon has fully matured into a dragon.

>>32892496
Yi qi isn't a bird retard.

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>>32895506
To this guy's credit, he at least makes most plant pokemon actual plants rather than animals that just look like or live in plants
>>32887991
>>32889877
>>32891084

>>32895506
I really like those Tapus

>>32894014
...you know, siphons DO make sense for Blastoise's cannons

it always has been weird how Blastoise just has these big cannons on it and we never know if they're bone or metal or what

>>32895996
>tangela and tangrowth aren't clumps of vines
other than that, I like all the other ones

mainly because plants and fungi are easy to work with

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>>32889142
>With Pokémon, you can make them look like animals, but when you get to the Psychic and Ghost types and the ones that are living rocks or what have you, that's where you need to play it straight

Why? The guy's entire shtick is explaining how things like possessed tree Pokémon or floating ice cream cones might actually reasonably exist -- this whole "no, these aren't magical beings, they're just sort-of-biologically-plausible-animals" is literally his entire thing. Saying, "oh, well, you should just leave the supernatural mons supernatural" defeats the purpose of this guy's work.

You're free to dislike it, but saying "it ruins the original idea" or "you can't mess with the supernatural mons" is retarded. The whole idea is that these actually existing animals are misconstrued as, say, haunted trees or floating ice cream cones.

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>>32896143
Fucking this. His designs are hit-or-miss since he tends to rely too much on hodge-podges of extant animals for inspiration (Yveltal, for instance), but are all you guys autistic? He wants to make "pokemon that look like animals" or "animals which could be cartoonified into the cannon designs through pop culture", not "realistic pokemon".

>>32895996
>literally just plants coloured like Pokemon

Arvalis' whole thing is explaining how animate plants might exist, and the explanation (whether you like it or not) is that "these things have been misconstrued as walking plants." It's so stupid to bring purism into the question of "how might this Pokémon exist in the real world?" if we're talking about fucking living Pokéballs or walking rocks -- the very question demands artistic license you absolute goobers.

>>32894500

Ghost type gorilla.

>WAAAAH I CAN'T HANDLE AN ARTIST USING THEIR IMAGINATION TO HAVE CREATIVE REINTERPRETATIONS OF POKEMON ;_;
>THEY MUST BE JUST THE POKEMON REDRAWN WITH NEW TEXTURES LIKE POKKEN WAAAAAH

I'm pretty sure this is a literal symptom of autism.

>>32896617
Hypocrite

>>32896175
>He wants to make "pokemon that look like animals" or "animals which could be cartoonified into the cannon designs through pop culture", not "realistic pokemon".
Then people should stop posting his shit in realistic Pokémon threads.

>>32896747
>Then people should stop posting his shit in realistic Pokémon threads.

Why? Because you don't like them? Fuck off.

>>32896851
>Why?
Because anon admitted they aren't "realistic Pokémon."

>>32893940
So, Voltorbs are the Pokemon equivalent of Cybermen?

>>32897001
But they are realistic Pokemon.

>>32897441
No. There Interpretations of Pokemon. A floating crab isn't magnamite, octopus trees arnt trevanent, and vanillite isn't an insect. If you want to see realistic Pokemon see >>32893144
>>32893157
>>32893178
>>32893387
>>32893393

>>32897610
Those are just pokemon with a fancy texture pack. Arvalis literally makes realistic pokemon, as in, he draws what pokemon might look like if they were real.

>>32894051
Jesus how do you get up in the morning?

>>32895996
>>32895506
>just recolor actual plants and animals into pokemon colors lol
Boring, lazy and unimaginative, the art is alright but that's about it