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>Good typing >Absolutely horrid stat distribution; slow,

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>Good typing
>Absolutely horrid stat distribution; slow, frail, AND has medicore offenses

How should Guzzlord's stats have been distributed to make it a good mon?

To start with, its BST should have been 600 (30 points higher than the other UBs), to cement its place as the "king" of the UBs.
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>>32885671
>swap its offenses and defenses
>give it foul play and recover
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>>32885671
>Guzzlord's new stats: 223 HP - 107 Atk - 101 Def - 107 SpA - 101 SpD - 31 Spe (670 BST, on pair with slaking)
>Guzzlord's new moves: Dragon dance, Nasty Plot, Gunk shot, Elemental fangs, Leech life, Giga drain, Knock off, Outrage and Thrash (not all that useful but what the hell, it should get these), Recover (or slack off)

A defensive set is nearly impossible to kill in one hit except if you carry something specific for it, like a very strong fairy. Everything else can 2HKO it at best, but guzzlord can 2HKO back and switching into it is risky, although trick room might be the best archetype to exploit with it since it is even slower than in canon. Atk, Def, SpA and SpD are now so similar to each other that you can play with spreads to make it bulkier or stronger with beast boost depending on your needs.

Unlike zygarde complete, it doesn't have a STAB that hits everything for free or extreme speed, not to mention it is much slower, so I'm unsure of how good this thing would actually be in comparison. My guess would be top OU for bulk alone; it can run life orb with no attack investment whatsoever and still 2HKO everything that threatens it, investing all its EVs into HP and half for each defense. It'd be a terrifying late game cleaner.
>Tapu lele, m-mawile and magearna can OHKO it, but none can switch into it because gunk shot or EQ
>Magearna is forced to always run a fairy move
>Bulu dies to gunk shot, koko dies to EQ
>Both greninjas need ice beam to 2HKO
>Any volcarona not running bug buzz cannot beat it before it gets beaten
Basically with the right team to get rid of its counters, if it reaches the late game still healthy it won.
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>before
>HP: 223
>ATK: 101
>DEF:53
>SPA:97
>SPD:53
>SPE:43

>after
>HP: 97
>ATK:223
>DEF:53
>SPA:43
>SPD:53
>SPE:101
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>>32885671
just because it has lord in its name and has a royal theme doesn't make it king of the UBs

but its movepool and its stats don't mesh well. it needs either better offenses or more status moves.
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JUST MAKE IT DARK/POISON AND GIVE IT CURSE
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>>32885671
>>HP: 255
>>ATK: 105
>>DEF:135
>>SPA:5
>>SPD:5
>>SPE:55
BST is the same, now it has a use.
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>>32886749
>SPD: 5
This is the exact reason why Kartana is so much worse than we expected, it'd still be pretty shit.
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