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>gen 2 introduces held items and the creation of sp. def,

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>gen 2 introduces held items and the creation of sp. def, battle system revamped and improved
>gen 3 introduces natures, abilities, improves held items, and double battles that add a lot to the battle meta
>gen 4 introduces physical/special split, a huge game changer in battle
>gen 5 introduces triple battles to spice up the battle modes even more

>gen 6 introduces... mega gimmick
>gen 7 introduces... Z-move gimmick

What went wrong?
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>>32876360
The game quality went downhill since gen 6 in favor of fanservice.
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>>32876360
>Megas and Z-moves are gimmicks
>Tirple battles and rotation battles aren't
Unovabortions need to be banned from /vp/. They are the Reddit of this cancerous board.
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There's not much else they can add aside from more moves, more items, more Pokemon and some held-item gimmick.
Other than Tri-Typed Pokemon,
but I feel like they're saving that for either the 25th Anniversary or Gen 10.
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Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves are huge game-changers too, so I don't see what your point is
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>>32876360
Technically speaking gen 6 and 7 added more to the game than gen 5. Nobody really cared about triple battles and rotation battles and they weren't even taken advantage of in the games they were introduced.
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>>32876409
>people caring about hordes
>people caring about battle royal
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Nobody even played Triples or Rotations, and they were removed in Gen 7
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>>32876360
Is gimmick the new buzzword for "mechanics I don't like"?
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>>32876398
At least triple and rotations were good gimmicks. Better than an "I win" button that continued to fuck up the balance even more.
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>>32876407
mega evolutions only work with certain meme mons and Z-moves are just 1 move used in battle. it doesn't change the game that much after it's used or after the mega mon is down.
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>>32876414
>and they were removed in Gen 7
because the shitty engine couldn't handle it

it could barely handle double battles.
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>>32876416

That's what it's always been
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>>32876412
People did care about hordes and got pissy when they were replaced with SOS battles.
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>>32876424
But only for EV training.
Hordes could have been so much more
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>>32876360
haha very funny pic OP
let me share mine
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>>32876400
fuck tri-types. what we need is multiple abilities. too many pokemon have levitate
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>>32876360
Pokemon has gotten stale. The last HUGE meta change was gen 4 with the split.
It hasn't really evolved since then. That's why they have been using novelty gimmicks like Mega Evos and recently Z-moves to "keep it fresh"
Still, it was gen 3 the game that brought more innovation to the franchise. There isn't much they can do anymore, given this is franchise for children, and games shouldn't be too hard or complex for them.
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>>32876360
what else would they add? There isn't much they can do anymore by tacking more shit onto what they've got, either they revamp the game mechanics or we continue to get minor and uninteresting additions
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>>32876360

The Physical/Special split was really the last huge game changer they could do without completely changing the game

Gen 5 was more of a "tune-up" gen (it added Hidden Abilities, and "fixed" old ones such as Sturdy)

By Gen 4, the framework had been firmly established, since then they've just made little tweaks here and there and added new mechanics like Megas and Z-Moves which shake up up the game, but don't change the actual mechanics much
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>no mention of fairy at all
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>>32876360
I predict next gen includes pokemon that take up two party slots, a la EX (or maybe closer to LEGEND)
They already copied delta species from the card game with regional forms. It's only a matter of time.
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>>32876360
Yea but fuck natures, held items, HMs, IVs, and EVs.
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>>32876360
>Things I like are features
>Things I don't like a gimmicks

Held items weren't any less gimmicky than mega forms. You're just more used to them. Double/Triple battles? Gimmick. Pokemon games as a whole? Gimmick.
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>>32876499
>whoop de loop a new type!
OP didn't mention Steel/Dark type either.
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>>32876451
this, anyone who pretends triple battles aren't on the same tier as z moves and megas is retarded
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>>32876360
This is Hypno if it was designed today.

Say something nice to it.
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>>32876499
fairy is good because dragon type was overpowered before it
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>>32876532

That looks better than original Hypno actually

I always hated how Drowzee was a tapir, then Hypno just drops all the tapir traits and becomes a jew
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>>32876548
There's also this.
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Gen 2 laid down most of the foundations, Gen 3 refined them, and Gen 4 added the finishing touches.
Everything else is just GameFreak trying to think of cool gimmicks because there's not really a way to further improve the current battle system as it is without making it too complex or starting over from scratch.
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And this...
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>>32876553
wtf I like Drowzee now
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>>32876564
I did those in an edit thread a couple months ago -- I still have a few that are unfinished; Golduck (making it more kappa-like), Jigglypuff (more cartoon-y balloon-like, and Electrode to name a few.

I also have accompanying descriptions as to what and why I changed things, in case people didn't get it.
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>>32876561
This unironically looks better.
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>>32876587
they look kind of like alolan versions
drowzee/hypno = ice
wheezing = ghost
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>>32876553
>>32876532
>forgetting munna and musharna exist
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>>32876553
>Homebrew Drowzee
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>>32876595
Yeah, I can see it. Makes sense, in a way, since Megas and Alolan forms pretty much ARE "x Pokemon" if it were to be designed today.

>>32876598
What about them? Both share some similar origins, yes, but their core designs are so different to begin with. I chose to go with a more baku-like interpretation of Drowzee/Hypno.
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>>32876360
5 also introduced hidden abilities.
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>>32876409
>hidden abilities
>infinite tm
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>>32876532
it looks cooler to be honest.
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>>32876416
>>32876508
>>32876524
Gimmick:
>a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.

Tell me, which one was really shilled more in events and commercials: Three pokemon battling simultaneously or ALL NEW LUCARIO AND MEWTWO FORMS/WHOA SNORLAX IS NOW AWAKE AND HUNGRY FOR DEATH
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>>32876388
it has been going down simce gen 2
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>>32876910
triple battles were just so shit they couldnt even be shilled
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>>32876400
Tri types would be hard to figure out
Also, why does game freak keep adding new pokemon? Why not just old pokemon in new regions
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>>32876360
>Gen 6 introduces new graphics, mega evolution, fairy type, horde battles to spice up shiny hunting even more.
Tell me, what did go wrong?
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>>32877004
>graphics and PVE are meta game changing features
keep reaching
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>>32877018
>everything should be meta focused
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>>32877027
>thread about game meta
>B-B-BUT THESE IRRELEVANT FEATURES!
Go away.
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