>Jolly Dragon Dance
>Timid Quiver Dance
>Jolly/Timid Shell Smash
>>32753907
choice scarf exists
>he doesn't understand speed tiers
what's the fastest technically legal pokemon possible?
How fast is a timid A-raichu, choice scarfed and in electric terrain?
>>32753941
/thread
>>32753951
+6 choice scarf timid deoxys-S in electric terrain with surge surfer
>>32753967
what's its speed stat?
>>32753967
-6 iron ball slow start Shuckle in trick room
>>32753974
504 * 1.5 * 4 * 2
>>32753907
what's wrong with it?
>>32753967
>>32753992
>he forgot tailwind
>>32753974
12,096
>>32753951
Deoxis speed with choice scarf and agility in a double battle with an ally that use skill swap in a foe with any ability that doubles the speed and then use skill swap to Deoxis and if you want also can add Tailwind.
>>32753983
there's a glitch that's existed in a few pokemon games now, where if your speed stat is high enough, you'll go first even in trick room
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_V#Trick_Room_glitch
it still exists in sun and moon
>>32754017
As if trick room wasn't nerfed enough
>>32754017
that is so weird
why does that even happen