>There's still people on this board right now that still

>>32747567
I like every pokemon

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If I get doubles, all shitposters falseflagging as owlfags leave /vp/ forever

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>>32747567
>purely basing your opinions on shilling and competitive viability
>not taking into account if the pokemon looks good

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>>32747589

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>>32747610
>Incineroar
>Midnight-Lycanroc
>Look good
Pick one.

>There are people that like gr*ss type starters
Gr*ss is the designated shit type. Every water type gets ice beam/fang/punch, gr*ss gets shit on by every birb in existence

>>32747567
Pokken is a bad fighting game
I only play competitive Pokemon in doubles, because VGC is the superior format.

Also 2 of my favorite Pokemons are PU and i'm ok with that.

>>32747634
Incineroar does look good compared to a human in a bird suit, anon. You know this is common sense.

>>32747567
calm down numel

>>32747666
>Pokken is a bad fighting game
Nice try, Satan.

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>There's still people on this board right now that think Incineroar won't still hang out with his nerdy owl friend.

>>32747758
>a human in a cat suit looks better than a human in a bird suit

I'll take your informed opinion on it, furfag. I still don't see what this has to do with the owl, though.

>>32747758
Incineroar and at least Midnight Lycanroc have a ton of personalty, too.

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>>32747831
>Incineroar fans are furfags

Have your (You)

>>32747567
>tfw decidueye should be NU but shitters always use it
The Ambipom and Hitmonchan of starters

>>32748213
Take your uninformed opinion elsewhere.

>>32747567
You say this like Decidueye has enough going for it to stand out from Gourgeist, Trevenant, and Dhelmise.

>>32748359
Yes, that is being a starter and not a PU/RU shitmon everyone forgot about

>>32747567
This gens PU is basically RU last gen

>>32748398
At least Incineroar's a better physical attacker than Houndoom. Primarina's a better special attacker than Azumarill and less passive than Tapu Lele, as well as not associated with the infamy of the Tapus.

If you call vying with three other same dual-typed mons with better niches success, then congrats, Owlbro. You "win".

>>32748443
Isn't it every usage tier this gen used to be the one above it in every way but name?

>>32748465
Come on, none of the Grass/Ghost types mentioned above have a place in UU aside from Decidueye.
Also stop comparing Incineroar and Primarina to it, one is clearly worse and one is clearly better. Nothing more, nothing less. Having a more useful HA or a better distribution of stats doesn't mean shit if a Pokémon is still PU.

>>32747567
Get your shit starter and leave this board.

>>32748528
Just because they're not listed as UU doesn't mean they're not used there, see Azumarill in OU all the time despite being UU. Besides, there's been a lot of tier shuffling this gen due to power creeping.

I'm not saying Incineroar's doing great or Primarina's shaping the meta, but I'd rather have a reason to use a pokemon in a lower tier than have it outclassed in a higher tier like when Mega Sableye was in Ubers during gen 6.

I never see people mention the three other grass/ghosts in all of these Decidueye threads and Owlbros seem to be developing a superiority complex because they think everything's hunky-dory with Decidueye. What does Decidueye do that compares to

...Gourgeist's multiple sizes with different stats, allowing for either bulkier or faster spreads, as well as Trick-Or-Treat to add a ghost weakness+Z-Trick or Treat boosting all stats.

...Trevenant's straight up resilience with the recovery from Harvest, Horn Leech, and Leech Seed plus its wide attacking movepool and Z-Forest Curse boosting all stats.

...and Dhelmise being better at hazard control in every way, having triple STAB, and Anchor Shot having no immunities and hitting the fairy types rising in prominence.

Decidueye's a "sweeper" that's at an unhappy medium with 70 speed, middling bulk uncomparable to the likes of Arcanine, and most of its speed being attributed to A-slow-la. Swords Dance is done better by stuff like Unburden Sceptile, Breloom, or Ferrothorn. I don't care about starter wars, but you seriously need to stop acting like Decidueye's on top of the world just because it got into Pokken.

>>32748716
Holy shit this is a burn. But the owlfags will never listen to it. Pokken's all they got.

>>32748465
>If you call vying with three other same dual-typed mons with better niches success, then congrats, Owlbro. You "win".
What niche does Dhelshit have? What does Trevenant have?

Gourgeist has a completely different niche from Decidueye too. Just look at their movesets.

>>32748716
>Just because they're not listed as UU doesn't mean they're not used there, see Azumarill in OU all the time despite being UU. Besides, there's been a lot of tier shuffling this gen due to power creeping.
Azumarill was banned from UU months ago. It's okay in OU and that's why you see it from time to time.

As for the rest, it just looks to me like you are making such a big deal out of some obvious falseflagging. Decidueye's niche is having the best Ghost type move in the game while also having access to Swords Dance - making it a Wallbreaker, not a Sweeper - and utility moves like Roost and Defog.
It's very different from all the Grass/Ghost mons you mentioned and certainly there's a reason it's still UU while others are not, like Dhelmise's even unhappier speed tier.
I also don't understand why you brought up stuff like Breloom and Ferrothorn when they are banned from UU.
I'm not an Owlfag and it's not my favorite starter of the three even design wise, but I really think you should stop trying to crap all over this Pokémon at every occasion.

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>>32747666
>Pokken is bad
>VGC is superior
Like if you want doubles, that's fine, but every other year VGC is literally Box Legends the meta

>>32748213
So, actually good but non-broken Pokemon that trigger Smogonfags who just want to use legendaries and Stealth Rock all day?

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>>32748857
I was referring to before Azumarill was OU officially, like in 5th gen. It's one of the most immediate examples.

>Dhelmise's even unhappier speed tier.
The difference is Dhelmise is never trying to be fast, unlike Decidueye, see its only set on its Smogon page which is 252 speed swords dance. Anchor Shot>Spirit Shackle.

You didn't find fault with Azumarill being brought up even though it's OU, but you've got a problem with Breloom and Ferrothorn, which I brought up as Grass Types that use Swords Dance. Speaking of, while there's validity to use as a wallbreaker, it's not that much more viable than any grass type that gets swords dance, which I'll save characters by saying there's a lot of them. Also, many of the mons it traps(which isn't entirely reliable given how much people switch into a counter before it can hit) and sets up on also scare it with Ice Beam and Scald burns, forcing it to fight RNG for its main purpose.

A good comparison to Decidueye's situation would be the huge amount of Normal/Flying types and how hard it is to stand out among them, though obviously that case is more severe. This isn't even bringing up that a lot of Decidueye's growth in competitive can be attributed to the pre-bank conditions where many mons were not present, Gourgeist and Trevenant included. I mean, we're still missing mega stones now.

Also, this is the first Decidueye thread I've posted in and the main reason I did is because I never saw mention of the other three ghost types. I was hoping more people would bring it up in the inevitable other Decidueye threads after reading my post, but that's out of my hands. Honestly, I've said my piece and I'm just going to stop here. You're free to get the last laugh if that's what pleases you.


tl;dr Owlbros, please stop gloating when your starter has its own problems.

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>still playing pokken

>>32749372
>Speaking of, while there's validity to use as a wallbreaker, it's not that much more viable than any grass type that gets swords dance, which I'll save characters by saying there's a lot of them.
Eeeh I think we are on entirely different train of thoughts here. You ramble much but in actuality there's no better Grass type wallbreaker than Decidueye in UU and that's a fact. It doesn't do an amazing job at that, sure, but your comparisons are completely meaningless at high competitive play. It doesn't matter if Dhelmise sounded good on paper, it just doesn't work. Decidueye CAN work, whether it's because of its own merits or how the meta is shaped is irrelevant.

I play a lot and base my opinions on that. Decidueye is okay/mediocre at best in UU, but none of the Grass/Ghost type or SDers you keep bringing up have any business competing with it in UU.

>>32747567
I like luchadors. They made X and Y better, they made Disgaea 5 better, They made DnD night better, they made my Saturday mornings better for years. Is there anything luchadors don't make better?

>>32748468
Yes. Except Ubers, funnily enough, which is just stagnant.

>>32748716
3 Decidueye vs 1 Gourgeist (Any one size), 1 Trevenant, and 1 Dhelmise. Who wins in a straight up brawl?
If the not-owls, could they beat 6 Decidueye?

>>32749372
Can Venusaur learn Swords Dance, or was that just gen 1 shittery?

>>32747758
Wait, owls are birds?

>>32750473
>>32750473
No, but they look similar from a difference.

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>>32747567
Please hear me out, dear owlfags

Can we pray together so our based owl will also get into Smash instead of Incineror and give Barafags the final nail in the coffin?

>>32747567
What's wrong with liking things other people don't, faggot?

>>32747567
>randomly starting shit with other Pokémon
Owlfags are the worst fanbase on /vp/.

>>32750894
I came back here after the Pokken announcement, excited about my favorite new Pokémon being a surprise addition. I should've known better than to expect anything other than shitposting and starter wars.

I just like owls, guys, always have. Decidueye is a cool concept and a mediocre choice in battle, but honestly that's fine considering power creep and the competitive value of some previous starters. I do wonder what USUM might bring it in the way of tutors. Don't expect or hope for the Ash-Greninja treatment, though.

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>>32747567
It's taste, Anon. There's no excuse to liking something.

>>32750959
You're part of the problem in not calling out your fanbase. Nobody gives a fuck on the owl.

>>32748689
Is there a version of this pic AT THE SAME RESOLUTION without the stupid Snapchat caption?

>>32752853
Here's that plus some more pictures https://twitter.com/molsah/status/871381091189260288

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>>32748689
>those hips
>dick
wtf i love decidueye now

>>32752887
That picture made me throw up

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>>32755069
*unzips dick*

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>>32747567
Only aesthetic matters

>>32747989
>The beak is fluffy
This pains me

>>32755127
Such a shame about nightroc then

Incineroar and Dayroc are both better designed than Decidueye

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>>32755082

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How does my boy hold up?

>>32747567
>There are people on this board right now who constantly push Lycanroc midnight and try to shit Midday form
>They keep insisting that Midnight is the better one of the two
>"oh no they're both shit but the one i prefer in battle is the balky focus blast eater"

Did you not play the games?

>>32755193
She's okay in UU

>>32755193
Mid-tier UU. Not the best of the best but still good and I love using her

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>>32747567
owlbros lol

>>32757128
What is Mokuroh doing to Ririe?!

>>32747610
>>purely basing your opinions on shilling and competitive viability
Can you blame him? That's how frog naruto worked.

Why does this matter, especially for those who aren't that serious/don't care about competitive battling?

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>>32747666
>Pokken is a bad fighting game