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>supposed to be the strongest ultra beast >is a PU shitmon

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>supposed to be the strongest ultra beast
>is a PU shitmon

what the FUCK happened?
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Wait for its new forms in PockeMonste: UltrSuUltrMoo.
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>>32746291
It tried to be a Blissey with no good recovery.
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>>32746291
>supposed to be the strongest ultra beast
Cool headcanon
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>>32746291
Just wait for Alolan Mega Ultra Black 100% Prism
Guzzlord
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>>32746291
Source?
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>>32746299
heres a (You)
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>>32746310
Guzzlord-Necrozma equipped

Dark/Psychic
Prism Armor
251-101-157-97-157-43
New attacks: Prismatic Laser, Moonlight, Morning Sun

What tier?
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>>32746402
dark/psychic is trash tier typing.
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>>32746321
What does this meme supposed to convey anyway?
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>>32746402
>caterpie used bug bite!
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>>32746402
woops made him 800+

251-101-107-97-101-43 would come at exactly 700 (same as the kyurem forms)

unless course the necrozma equip also counts as a mega at the same time at which point the stats are appropriate
>>32746419
well aware, but we all know that's what a hybrid guzzlord, necrozma would be like
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>>32746445
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Prism Armor Guzzlord-Necrozma: 465-555 (65.8 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It's pretty bulky
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>>32746299
There's going to be a machine that siphons the Ultra Energy out of the beasts, replacing Beast Boost with their "natural" ability. Celesteela will have Huge Power.
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>>32746291
Dex-wise its a threat because it eats anything and doesn't even poop it out.

Typing and stat-wise it's a piece of shit that looks like Megatron and the Kool-Aid Man fused together.
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>>32746291
>"Bulky" with a billion weaknesses and no recovery whatsoever
>horribly inefficient stat spread (mixed offenses, 107/107/107 base defenses gives better bulk than 223/53/53 for 8 fewer base stat points)
>slow
>doesn't actually hit very hard
>dubious movepool devoid of good boosting options or things like priority
It's like Gen III all over again with the slow, frail, mixed attackers.
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>>32746291
It came from a universe without Fairy types.

Imagine how this thing would go over if it attacked a RBY team (and had 97 Special rather than SpAtk).
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The typing wants to do damage
The stats want to take damage
It's an awful mix up with no middle-ground
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just give the thing curse and a dark/poison typing and suddenly it wont be shit
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>>32747281
Assuming it was pure Dragon instead of Dark/Dragon?

Still overshadowed by Chansey, because it has no reliable recovery. And no STAB either.
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>>32747389
Guzzlord is supposed to be a tank that hits back with okay resistances to Electric, Water, Fire and immunity to Psychic

But considering how team building works, it's better off making a dedicated tank with Toxic and other support moves that put in offensive moves
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>>32747389
Nah, it was still Dark/Dragon and still had Beast Boost in a world where nothing else had an ability.
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Let's see...

- Dark/Dragon gives it a shit ton of weaknesses - Ice, Bug, Fighting, Dragon, and FAIRY.

- Guzzlord has amazing HP but its shitty defenses hold it back.

- Guzzlord is outclassed offensively by Hydreigon.

- No reliable recovery.
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>>32746291
>supposed to be the strongest ultra beast
Was that ever actually implied though?
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>>32746291
>what if we took Wailord and gave it Hydreigon's type? Would it be shit?

>Obviously, yeah. Let's do it anyway lol
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>>32746426
When someone replies to a message you made it displays a (you) that only you can see. As you can observe with this message.

He's trying to be shady, by suggested that you did something edgy just to get responses, and thus (you)s. Unfortunately, he's underage, and can't even pick good posts to (you) at
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>The monarch UB is way shittier than the other 6 more common ones

Is this some sort of political commentary?
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People will say fairies, but it really isn't. Guzzlord simply isn't a good Pokemon. It has a movepool that screams offensive mon, but it has no way to boost its attack without Beast Boost, which is unreliable for its stat spread. It's stats scream defensive mon, but it has no utility moves to take care of it. All in all, it's just a better Wailord, but being a better Wailord doesn't exactly make you good, and that raw stats don't mean shit if you don't have the movepool to take advantage of it.
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>>32746291
>Bulky, with no way to recover. See: Shit like Aggron.
>Base 100ish offence. See: Shit like Sylvally.
>Ridiculous HP means it is very weak to shit like draining moves, Leech Seed, and Pain Split. Oh, but it becomes resistant to Final Gambit. Yay.
>Paper defenses mean it's just as bulky as a standard bulkymon, despite above weaknesses.
>Terribad speed. Will never outspeed anything outside of Trick Room. Not even Sticky Web, Thunderwave, or Tailwind support get it going first.
>4x weak to Fairy, and will never outspeed.
Weak to Fighting, Bug, Ice, and Dragon as a free bonus
>Movepool has several good coverage moves it can actually use well, doesn't have the raw stats or boosting moves to actually be threatening with them.
>Movepool has little other than these moves.
>Even if you want to use it offensively, Hydreigon is better without even trying.

I have had limited success running full investment in both defences, with an Assault Vest. It works essentially as a beatstick that can force a trade with lots of shit, or serve as a meatshield pivot. It can only do it once, maybe pivot twice though, and is easily foiled by unexpected coverage or physical Stab SE attacks.
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>>32748219
>"Holy exposition, Batman!"
Just for that, here's yours.
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>>32750528
>someone asks a question
>get a detailed answer
>lol here's your you
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>>32750644
I wasn't the same person that asked, just to clarify things. I just happened to pass by, and noticed that shit. As if the anon wasn't going to find out what it meant by himself eventually.
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>>32748349
Kings have their servants do all the hard work.
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Because massive HP means very little if the defense stats are super low, and it doesn't have the offensive stats to do anything before the HP drains out. Which is funny since it's weak to most of the draining attacks.
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>>32746402
RU
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>>32747265
>107/107/107 base defenses gives better bulk than 223/53/53 for 8 fewer base stat points
Wait, there are three defense types now?
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>>32747746
It's the last ultra beast fought and the one with the best feats, so narrative implies it being the strongest UB, though not to the extant that one would state it as a fact.
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>>32750762
You have to factor in how much HP the Pokemon has when calculating damage, too.
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>>32750772
Ah, I get it.
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>>32746291
They gave up and stopped caring.
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>>32746291
It doesnt have attack as they say in dex.
It should get a malicious chomp that halves oponent hp and heals you.
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>>32746291
>Huge HP
>shit defenses to back it up
>subpar attack stats
>horrid speed
i dont see why you're surprised
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>>32746291
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