>get what's essentially a third version >"WHAT

>>32688973
Go away fag, gen5 is some good shit

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it took you this long to realize the majority of /vp/ is underage?

>>32688973
So it is nostalgiawanks who defend selling the beta and then the completed version

>>32688973
People are upset that it's two games instead of one when they're not sequels..

>>32688973
This, I can't wait to visit UltrAlola!

>>32688999
Gen 5 were terrible
>start of cutscenes everywhere
>Weather Wars
>Overrated side characters
>Gyms with Double Team abusers
>Terrible pacing
>Most new Pokemon being awful shitmons
>Obnoxious fanbase
Unovabortions need to be banned from this board.

Tell me which gen had double third versions for maximum cow milking.

I'll wait.

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>>32688999
>he didn't deny it
Shouldn't you be playing Minecraft or something? Get!

>>32689041
Well fuck, Anon.
Guess they sold us the Beta with Mario Kart 8.
Guess Smash Bros. cut off content and sold it to us separately.
Guess Splatoon was an unfinished game.

>>32689121
That sounds like gen 7 to me.

>>32688973
>complains about the only thing we can ALL agree Gen 5 improved on
fans like you should be eradicated

>>32689165
That'd be Gen 5 my good man

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>>32688973
>implying you want the barely-different third versions back

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>>32688973
I've been playing since genwun and I loved BW2, get fissured.

p.s. you're mom is infinitely hotter than you ever will be.

I always thought Gen 5 and Gen 7 stans are the same people since both Gens prioritize on the same aspects more or less.

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>>32689165

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>>32689055
That's kind of autistic. But what else is new?

>>32689165
>maximum cow milking.
You actually buy both versions and then complain you don't have money for them?

>>32689215
>complains
Only one here complaining is you.

>M-Muh sequel.
If you actually care that much for the story of this game you need to play another video game, maybe read a book.

i want to shove my cock in lillie's tight cunny

>>32689274
I want a good version of Alola. Whether that's delivered in a sequel or a 3rd version makes no difference to me. BW2's story was trash compared to BW1 anyways.

>board specifically for childrens games
>is surprised to find it's full of children
no need to have this for confirmation, just read the board on a day to day basis. it's about 80% underage kids, another 15% immature manchildren.

>>32688973

Fuck 3rd versions.

I'd much rather have a sequel that didn't totally obsolete the previous games.

Literally no point in owning S/M now.

>>32689393
But didn't you like how Plasma became shattered into two sub-factions; the ones loyal to N's idea of true Pokepeace and the ones that were loyal to Ghetsis' idea of global domination?

>>32689338
>Only one here complaining is you.
you're the one who made the thread you massive cocksucker so unless you have an argument don't reply to me or my son ever again

>>32689438
the remaining 5% is us pedos.

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>>32689458
>you massive cocksucker
I'm not your wife, you cuck.
And that's not your son.

>>32688999
bad bait

>>32689393
>I want a good version of Alola.
And I want Ash to get the fuck out of the anime. Looks like we're both going to be disappointed.

>>32689522
a thread died for this

>Ultra S&M turn out to be platinum tier in terms of how they fix S&Ms bullshit and adds more
>DiaPer remakes have expanded underground, left the dungeons in tact, left the platinum changes in, kept the GC but, made it a mini-game location and all the HMs are now just TMs while the post game is unaltered

>>32688973
that's unovabortions you old new fag, get your memes right

>>32689235
>>32689336
How come people say these are third versions when they're different games? I've been seeing this on /vp/ more lately.

>>32689662
because they don't actually play the games, they only get paid to shill them

>>32689662
They're as much different games as Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will be.

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>>32689605
>implying they don't get a sinnohfetus to make the DP remakes so he fucks everything up for the sake of "authenticity" like they did with ORAS

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>>32689662
>How come people say these are third versions
Did it have anything different besides the story and a couple new areas?
So how the fuck is it a different game?

In that case, Platinum is a new game since it adds Charon and Giratina.

Not enough differences?
Who made you the judge of what's different enough to justify a game as being a "different" game?

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>we don't even do anything
>still make people mad
The weak fear the strong.

>>32689872
>Bitch all the time
>No doing anything

>>32689793
>Did it have anything different besides everything that made it different from an updated version?

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>>32690074
>different from an updated version
But it's not.
Updated versions have.

>updated stories
>new areas

It's a sequel, yes.
But besides that?

>>32690129
BW2's story isn't updated, but continued. Had it been updated then it more of less would've been the same as with previous third versions. We even had different protagonists.

>new areas

This is true.

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>>32690336
That's a whole lot of praise for very little change.
Does it really make that big of a difference to you that the story is updated and worked upon rather than continued and that we get a different sprite?

There's not even any point to having a new protagonist in these games, you know?

You'd be surprised how many babyfucks here started with Gen 3.

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>>32688973
https://yuki.la/vp/31625645

>>32688973
Yes because it totally doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it's not only a third version that's been split in two for no particular reason but is just going to be a full priced expansion instead of just DLC for Sun and Moon.

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>>32690723
>for no particular reason
Story, obviously.

>but is just going to be a full priced expansion instead of just DLC for Sun and Moon.
Why would it be DLC? The story is most likely going to be tweaked and there will be various visual changes. As well as new forms and such.

By the looks of it, a new Z-Move mechanic or something. Probably new characters. New buildings.

You'd basically be downloading a new game.

>>32690723
>Pokemon
>DLC
>>>/v/

>>32690811
>Story, obviously.
There's nothing in the game that couldn't be merged into a singular version.

>Why would it be DLC?
Why wouldn't it?
We all know that the additions are going to be basic forms and such while the overworld is going to remain, for the most part, the same just like every other third version.

>By the looks of it, a new Z-Move mechanic or something. Probably new characters. New buildings.
You act as if that couldn't be done. Hell ACNL had a huge FREE update that made similar changes to the game on that level.

>You'd basically be downloading a new game.
It would be if it was on the scale of say Fire Emblem Fates. This is Pokemon however.

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>>32689174
>there was at least a two year gap between bw and bw2, and was actually a little more than just a third version
>Splatoon and Mario Kart were favorites on the Wii U, but the console sold like shit so they ported enhanced versions onto the Switch so people could actually fucking play them

>meanwhile GameFreak makes two unfinished games, then 6 months later tell us "lol, should've waited, even though you had no reason to assume there would be another fucking version the next year because we didn't have one for X and Y" on the same goddamn console

Does it hurt to be that retarded?

>>32690961
Splatoon 2 is a sequel anon

>>32688999
Trips confirm

Why are people thinking this is not a NEW story with DIFFERENT characters set in alola?

Based on the names I thing of the following:

>ULTRA Beast focused story, reinforced by the fusion of box legendaries with necrozma. (Yes, all 3 legendaries came from holes in the sky, just read official information about them, probably UBs, but considered legendaries because it happened long ago).

>New pokemon from older generations that weren't in Sun and Moon, probably because UBs doing something. This leads up to:

>New alola regional forms from older pokemon, just like ORAS included new megas.

Also:

>New Z-moves and probably returning characters from SM.

There will probably be gyms already built, the league is obviusly there and they probably let you try the trials too in the post game.

So this is like Black and White 2 all over again. I look foward to more information.

Also, since this direct was rushed because of coro coro leakis, nintendo had to reveal this early instead of on the e3, so probably they announce more things at e3.

>>32691145
>Why are people thinking this is not a NEW story with DIFFERENT characters set in alola?
One of the first things that was mentioned was that it was an alternate story anon. Not a different one.
It also stars the same protagonists who start at the exact same point.

Why are you all so dumb? This is gen 5. It's sun 2 moon 2

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>>32690929
>There's nothing in the game that couldn't be merged into a singular version.
Uh, how would you go about merging both Ultra Solgaleo and Ultra Lunala?
Not to mention the time differences.

>We all know that the additions are going to be basic forms
You're already wrong. Sure we have new forms but it's demonstrated to include a new Z-Move mechanic as well. Not to mention the based rumors about a Switch version.

>the overworld is going to remain, for the most part, the same just like every other third version.
Already not true.
Just outside your house you can see a Pelipper flying above you, there is now a Pokemon Center right next to your house, flowers were added to the bushes, new clothes have been added.

>Hell ACNL had a huge FREE update that made similar changes to the game on that level.
Entirely different.
Animal Crossing simply added new items and a new area, as well as amiibo functionality and few extra mechanics like the coupons.
The rest were leftovers from Amiibo Festival and Happy Home Designer.

You don't need to replay Animal Crossing to experience everything new with the game like you would with Pokemon.
Animal Crossing didn't change the foliage, the layout of your town, it didn't Ultra Isabelle and changed story.

It was big, sure. But more than half of it were just leftovers from Happy Home Designer.

cont.

>>32690961
This is bad bait, Anon.

>>32691440
>It's sun 2 moon 2
We already know it isn't.

>>32691363
Alternate = not the same fucking story, nor a upgraded one.
New story, new characters.

Same model? Ok, MC of SM are fucking irrelevant.
Same start point? Ok, what about the MC of SM just moved to other place?

>>32691465
No we don't. It's an alternate story in the same universe. like. black. and. white. 2.

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>>32691464
>It would be if it was on the scale of say Fire Emblem Fates. This is Pokemon however.
As somebody who ALSO played all three Fates storylines let me tell you that there's nothing significantly different besides a horrible story chopped into three pieces that's truly meant to milk your money.

Two out of three versions aren't any good gameplay or story wise, and Conquest is only good gameplay wise.
There was nothing added to Fire Emblem Conquest that couldn't be added to Fire Emblem Birthright.

So then they bring in Revelations to tie the huge unfinished mess together and give you access to what's already in your cartridge.

You could be saying "But wait a second, that sounds very familiar."
The difference is, the story in Pokemon isn't divided into two to coax you into buying "different" games.
And the third version wasn't developed at the same time and meant to answer all the unfinished story between those "two" games.

I also want to add that if you're assuming it won't have any significant changes worth making a new game over, then yeah. Maybe you're just a tiny bit right and they could have implemented some new game plus garbage.
But if you expect huge changes and want them to be free or cheap DLC then you are heavily spoiled and should take a step back and appreciate all the shit Nintendo has given out for free rather than take it for granted.

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>>32688973
You have to consider that this is the wake up call since they've grown up now.
As a kid, did they care? No, more pokemon, what would be better? Same kikery schemes but you think they cared? Parents paid for it, after all.
This is the first time that they're grown up and faced with this situation. Some realize it's always been like this, some are still blinded by nostalgia and refuse to acknowledge that the past was the same.
Maybe one day they'll realize it

>>32689235
>>32689336
And yet, they're still the worst selling Gen, despite being on the best selling handhold. LOL

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>>32691578
Oh, and in conclusion.

You buy it anyways, fuck you.

>>32691464
>Uh, how would you go about merging both Ultra Solgaleo and Ultra Lunala?
>Not to mention the time differences.
Same way you got the second Cosmog of course.

>Sure we have new forms but it's demonstrated to include a new Z-Move mechanic as well
Which is covered by the "and such" part.
Also I doubt the "new" Z-move mechanic is going to be any different than it was before.

>Just outside your house you can see a Pelipper flying above you, there is now a Pokemon Center right next to your house, flowers were added to the bushes, new clothes have been added.
>for the most part
None of these are particularly important changes that couldn't have been done in DLC anon. Like I said before ACNL made similar changes.
Also that Pokemon Center was there in the original.

>Animal Crossing simply added new items and a new area, as well as amiibo functionality and few extra mechanics like the coupons.
You do realise that's exactly what you listed right?
New characters
New buildings
Two new minigames
New Mechanics
Daily missions
Amiibo functionality
And so on and so forth. I don't think you realise how large this update actually was.

>The rest were leftovers from Amiibo Festival and Happy Home Designer.
What relevancy does this hold exactly?
They're still models and characters that didn't exist within vanilla ACNL, no? Where the models come from doesn't exactly do anything for your argument.

>You don't need to replay Animal Crossing to experience everything new with the game like you would with Pokemon.
Nor do you for Pokemon. There's nothing stopping them from putting in an additional campaign or reasons for players to explore.

> But more than half of it were just leftovers from Happy Home Designer.
See above.

>>32691491
You've never played bw2
They are direct continuations of bw1s story

>>32691825
So not the same game as black and white.

>>32691825
You know alternate can mean anything, right?

They can just start again with the same MC but no aether fundation,
no team skull, no lillie, etc. Imagine that UltraSun and UltraMoon are the first games
of the 7th gen. Just like that. It's just an alternate story that has nothing to do
with sun and moon. Not a sequel, not an upgraded version, not the same story.
Just something completely different. Maybe with the same characters, maybe not.


>>32691464
>Switch version.

Confirmed by nintendo there is no UltraSun and UltraMoon switch version.

>“We would like to address rumours based on a clerical error on the Pokémon press site; Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon are coming exclusively to Nintendo 3DS family of systems and are not due for release on Nintendo Switch. This listing on the Pokémon press site was made in error and is not indicative of future plans. Please refer to the Pokémon Direct for more game details.”

>http://kotaku.com/pokemon-ultra-sun-and-moon-coming-only-to-3ds-later-thi-1795847363

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>>32691779
I just want to say I read your entire post and I lost the will to argue, and along with it the will to live.
So I'll just cherry pick your "best" moments.

>Same way you got the second Cosmog of course.
That wasn't even part of the story.
And that's most definitely still going to be in the new games.

>New characters
>New buildings
>Two new minigames
>New Mechanics
This will tie in on my next point.

>Where the models come from doesn't exactly do anything for your argument.
Half of the stuff from Animal Crossing is from a different game. No work was put into the majority of that update. Hence why it was a free update. And not comparable at all to bran new content.

I'll repeat it because you didn't catch it the first time. It's recycled content, no work went into it besides moving it from one game to the other.

>Nor do you for Pokemon. There's nothing stopping them from putting in an additional campaign or reasons for players to explore.
I don't even know what to say to this besides; you're obviously not a big Pokemon player, are you?

>>32689438
>on an 18+ website

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I do wish it was an actual third version instead of what it is because idk which one to get and my collector autism makes me want both even though I already have both S and M

>>32691578
>that there's nothing significantly different
Already wrong, for someone who supposedly played it you'd think you would know more.

In any case in addition to the different story, difficulty, units, castle adornments, skills and so on the games feature their own mechanics and subtle differences.
To name a few
Conquest doesn't earn EXP from castle battles while both Birthright and Revelations do. Nor does it have the scout function.
All three only share around five maps or so many of which have fairly large range of objectives.

>There was nothing added to Fire Emblem Conquest that couldn't be added to Fire Emblem Birthright.
Aside from the fact that they're both two conflicting stories unlike Pokemon where the other can happen in the other universe or again through an additional campaign. Ultra Space was established as a method to cross worlds, along with the fact that the two versions didn't have significant differences that little plot point just about enables anything.

Also I like how you're injecting your irrelevant opinion into things like it's going to change the facts.

>The difference is, the story in Pokemon isn't divided into two to coax you into buying "different" games.
You're right. It's the exact same game split into two instead of two games with the same setting like Fates is.

>some new game plus garbage.
They don't even need to do that, like I said before they have the ability to go to different worlds as it is. It would be incredibly easy just to have the changes present in USM as an entirely different world to explore.

>But if you expect huge changes and want them to be free or cheap DLC then you are heavily spoiled
You don't keep up with things do you. There are games that have been expanded far beyond the likes of third versions for less than the price of a full game.
Do you honestly think that people should pay full price just for what amounts to DLC in this day and age?

>>32691719
You're talking to someone who pirates anon.

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>>32688973
Why do we still need a third game in the first place? This is the seventh generation of games - you'd think that with previous experience they'd be able to get it right the first time. Everyone who has bought Sun and Moon now has the inferior version.

Gamefreak is a bunch of talentless hacks.

>>32692185
> and I lost the will to argue, and along with it the will to live.
That's more because there is no justification for any of this in this day and age.

>That wasn't even part of the story.
Except Ultra space connecting to other worlds is part of the story. Remeber Anabel?
With that said there's no reason why it can't be made into a new campaign like I said in my other post.
>And that's most definitely still going to be in the new games.
Which would just make the whole thing even less justifiable.

Half of the stuff from Animal Crossing is from a different game. No work was put into the majority of that update. Hence why it was a free update. And not comparable at all to bran new content.

>I'll repeat it because you didn't catch it the first time. It's recycled content, no work went into it besides moving it from one game to the other.
Already answered this here.
>What relevancy does this hold exactly?
>They're still models and characters that didn't exist within vanilla ACNL, no? Where the models come from doesn't exactly do anything for your argument.
And if you didn't notice they already have the base models to work with when it comes to pokemon, alterations for new forms and so on can be done extremely quickly. Hell, Solgaleo and Lunala are pretty much just have Necrozma's parts hastily pasted on with a small texture change. I don't think you realise how easy something like that is.

> It's recycled content, no work went into it besides moving it from one game to the other.
Sounds a little similar to Pokemon doesn't it. A little texture changes here and there and you're set.

>you're obviously not a big Pokemon player, are you?
Oh of course I am. Most likely have more investment in the series as a whole than you do at this point but the point here is that the amount of changes the game is going to get doesn't justify the full price they're going to sell it at.
Before it was somewhat reasonable seeing as it was the only method of obtaining that content until the next generation of games rolled along (if it was lucky to make it over)

Now however we live in an age where games can and have been updated with content that's equal to more than half of the base game at most at half the price, and the 3DS just so happens to be a console that supports such updates.
Like I said before, do you honestly think that people should pay full price just for what amounts to DLC in this day and age?

>>32692886
Meant for >>32692185

>>32692459
>being this retarded
they're obviously cutting content to release a le third version money grab.
I never fell for the third version meme and I don't know why people did back in the day when games were actually considered really fucking expensive.

>>32692914
>I never fell for the third version meme
So are you saying that you intentionally bought the first iterations instead of waiting for the third game?

>avatarfag
>arguing about animal crossing
Why does this scenario seem familiar

>third version
>released a year later
>with the same plot
>split across two games for more $$$

>>32688973
Nigger, I grew up with the original games and this is still shit.

They're putting in less effort than ever before, they have the ability to make DLC now (they could easily have made this an expansion pack for half the price - look at something like The Witcher 3 with expansion packs half the price of a full game or less and easily the size of a full game with their own stories as well), and we know there was content cut from SM - even more blatantly so than ever before.

>>32692404
>You don't keep up with things do you. There are games that have been expanded far beyond the likes of third versions for less than the price of a full game.
>Do you honestly think that people should pay full price just for what amounts to DLC in this day and age?
>>32692459
>Why do we still need a third game in the first place? This is the seventh generation of games - you'd think that with previous experience they'd be able to get it right the first time. Everyone who has bought Sun and Moon now has the inferior version.
>Gamefreak is a bunch of talentless hacks.
These anons fucking get it.

>>32689121
This isn't Gen 6 or Gen 7, anon. I think you're confused.

>>32691017
It's basically the same fucking game. As someone who loves Splatoon, the new one isn't different enough to justifying purchasing, in my opinion.

>>32693266
>It's basically the same fucking game.
That's because it's a sequel anon. With that said there's far more content than the original.

>>32693125
>>with the same plot

LITERALLY how do you know this? Stop pulling shit out of your ass. We already know something is different because of the cover legendaries.

>>32693216
>Nigger, I grew up with the original games and this is still shit.
You just outed yourself as some basic bitch who thinks they know shit about Pokemon for playing the original games.
Congratulations.

>>32693292
>LITERALLY how do you know this?
Because that's LITERALLY what we were told in the direct.

>We already know something is different because of the cover legendaries.
Yeah because the Primals and Origin Giratina meant that the whole story was rewritten right?
Fucking dumbass.

>>32693292
This anon gets it, everyone is getting salty over ASSUMPTIONS based on a 20 sec teaser and I'm just laughing it up.

>>32688973
I guess they're technically third and fourth versions, which we haven't had before if you don't count red, blue, green and yellow

>>32688973
>Get what's essentially a third version
>"WHAT THE FUCK? IT'S THE SAME THING"

IF IT WAS A "PROPER" THIRD VERSION, IT WOULD BE FUCKING OBVIOUS AND THEY WOULD BE ADVERTISING ALL SORTS OF COOL FEATURES AND ADDITIONS.

>>32693317
Are you still trying to justify this?
If the fact that they made a third version out of a game that could easily get an update through DLC didn't tip you off to their lazy jewish tactics then what about the fact that they just split the two games for no other reason than to sell more copies?

>>32693340
>Because that's literally what we were told in the direct.

I don't think you realize how open ended a meaning "alternative story" could have, we literally no nothing for sure about USUM than there will be Necrozma fusions.

>>32693402
Don't forget how Solgaleo and Lunala are stealing the show from Necrozma unlike the other third versions that made the third legend the focus.
It's pretty lazy how they just pasted Necrozma's parts on to their radiant sun and full moon "forms" too.

>>32693443
>I don't think you realize how open ended a meaning "alternative story" could have,

>he thinks that GF are going to pull an SMTIV:A on us
They couldn't even give Necrozma a new form and the players are the same. What makes you think that GF are going to expend the effort?

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Next you're going to cry that these aren't actual arguments. But what even is the point of arguing with you?

>>32692404
>There are games that have been expanded far beyond the likes of third versions for less than the price of a full game.
>Do you honestly think that people should pay full price just for what amounts to DLC in this day and age?
Spoiled.

>I pirate
End of argument.
You play it anyways and you lose no money in the process.

>>32692459
>you'd think that with previous experience they'd be able to get it right the first time.
That would be implying Sun and Moon were wrong and that games can be built perfect.
All games can be improved upon.

>Everyone who has bought Sun and Moon now has the inferior version.
Yes, and?
What are you typing on right now?
Is it a phone?

In a few months a new phone will come out.
You now have the inferior version.

But you don't cry.
>Why won't they upgrade my phone for free?

>>32693403
>If the fact that they made a third version out of a game that could easily get an update through DLC
They can't and they shouldn't.

>the fact that they just split the two games for no other reason than to sell more copies?
You buy both versions?
No?
Then what's the problem here?

Other people do?
And?
Oh, you don't like them spending their money?
Why?

>>32693632
>the players are the same
That doesn't matter. If the game takes place the alternate universe then it does not matter if every character is the same. Just give them new personalities and boom.

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>>32693663
>Spoiled.
It's not so much being "spoiled" as seeing the worth of what's being given to you. Let's be honest now, no third version has ever had enough content to justify the full price they sold at. We just bought it because there were no other options to play said content.

>End of argument.
Okay so you're going to say this
>Next you're going to cry that these aren't actual arguments.
And then end with this?

And while it's these aren't my arguments to jump into I can't help but point out how ridiculous you're being.
Are you really going to equate phones to video games?
For one there are very little phones that are instantly made obsolete upon a new release you idiot not to mention there's a little more effort put into designing and making the phone than what's being done for USM.
Oh and no one said that it should be free.

>They can't
Why can't they? The unlike the GB/C/A and DS before it the 3DS is capable of updates and DLC.

>they shouldn't.
Why shouldn't they? Ultimately DLC will net them more profit both because they don't have to share it with retailers and they don't have to pay production costs for carts. Basically it's nothing but pure profit.

>Then what's the problem here?
The problem here is that they could have easily been consolidated into one single version like every other third version before it with no issues whatsoever but decided to split them for the sole purpose of earning money without realising that there are far better options to do so without forcing players to pay full price for what's essentially DLC.

Why are you even attempting to salvage this argument at this point?
There's no logical reason to defend this in the year of 2016

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>>32693898
>There's no logical reason to defend this in the year of 2016

you're joking right? you've seen a calendar recently

right?

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>>32694013
Yes because one can't make a typo when the '6' and '7' are right next to each other.
Also last time I checked the 3DS was still capable of doing DLC and updates last year as well.

Now do you actually have anything to say or what?

>>32694082
no not really, you're right on every point - not any of the people you were replying to btw.

I just assumed by typing a post that long you'd proofread it over to catch that.

>>32694143
Eh, it was the ending sentence.

>>32693898
>no third version has ever had enough content to justify the full price they sold at.
I'd disagree.
Crystral and Platinum are, in my opinion, well worth the money. And I have no qualms with purchasing the games again.
But then again I've been playing fighting games for a long time, so I'm very much used to re-releases. And even in modern times, the Season 2 gimmick tends to cost just as much as the original game.

And yes, they old versions are potentially obsolete now but that's also very much up for argument.

What's the point of playing X & Y? Story?
I would never replay X & Y, there's no reason for me to. And they became obsolete when Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire added the new Megas and move tutors.
No reason to play X & Y.

>We just bought it because there were no other options to play said content.
There's still isn't.
Could they have painted over the old games? Maybe. We don't know that. We can assume.
Would it have worked out? Probably not.

Let's be honest, the DLC would not have been free. It would have taken space in your SD Card, and you would have needed to start a new game.

And don't give me that "No need to start a new game." bullcrap. You're honestly telling me you wouldn't entirely play the content you paid for? Seen the new story, gotten the new dialogue, experience the new Pokedex?
What's the point then?
You're asking for DLC, but by the sounds of it you don't really wanna play it.

>there are very little phones that are instantly made obsolete upon a new release you idiot
Read above, and suck my cock, dude.

>Why can't they?
Well ultimately that statement is wrong.
They CAN make an update or DLC, but that'd be shooting themselves in the leg.

>>32693898
>Ultimately DLC will net them more profit
No it won't.

I'll continue this but first.

>>32694082
Did you just assume that they were the same person as me?
You're kind of an ass, dude.

>>32689121
>Gyms with Double Team abusers
This is every game anon

>>32694176
>But then again I've been playing fighting games for a long time
Not him but funny you would mention fighters when they've been doing DLC for a while now.

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>>32694176
>because they don't have to share it with retailers
Then why isn't it DLC?
Most of the argument is that they're making this to net a profit yet here you are now arguing that they wouldn't profit as much if it was just DLC.

Don't you think that's a little ass backwards?

>The problem here is that they could have easily been consolidated into one single version like every other third version before it with no issues whatsoever but decided to split them for the sole purpose of earning money without realising that there are far better options to do so without forcing players to pay full price for what's essentially DLC.
Oh! OH!
Wow, you're right.

How did nobody think of this?
They must have punched a number incorrectly or something when they were doing the calculations.

Because you surely have more brain on you than he combined heads of everybody at GameFreak.

How conceited.
By all means, post another smug anime picture for me, would you?

>>32694226
I also mentioned how that DLC is rather expensive, and sometimes ends up being more expensive than just buying a re-release when it's all done and settled.

But you don't do that if you're a serious player since you want to be ahead of people of course.

>>32688973
No, because bw2 was set 2 years in the future, and it was interesting to see how everything changed.

>>32694278
>I also mentioned how that DLC is rather expensive
What? No.
The DLC for fighters is always cheaper than buying a rerelease. Unless of course you want to wait until a community is dead to buy it from a friend.

Anyway check it,
Here in the UK the SSF4AE DLC is £11.99.
As a separate game it was being sold at £15.99 originally now though the physical versions have shot up to about £25. With the 360 version being somewhat cheaper yet still more expensive at £13.

Ain't no "more expensive" about it. DLC is always cheaper because they want people to buy it there instead of from a retailer.

Then there's this
> the Season 2 gimmick tends to cost just as much as the original game.
Where I think you're talking about season passes.
They're literally designed to be cheaper than buying the DLC separately but the problem everyone has with them is that they're usually announced and purchasable BEFORE the DLC itself has been announced so you have no idea what you've paid for.

>>32688973
post this image but in anime version

>>32694176
>Crystral and Platinum are, in my opinion, well worth the money.
Before I reply properly to this make a note of all of the changes within these games from their base games.

>No reason to play X & Y.
You do realise you're comparing XY and a remake set in another region to Sun and Moon and USM which are both set in the same region, right?
XY at the very least has exploration and story differences. USM is set in the exact same region as Sun and Moon possibly with new and expanded areas on top of that the trailer implied that rather than a new story we're just getting the same one with alterations.
Any way you spin it there's a reason for people to play XY, now that USM is a thing SM has been made totally obsolete in every area.
On that note it's also why BW wasn't made completely obsolete by BW2 because there are a handful of areas available in the first that aren't in the second.

>There's still isn't.
Yes there is anon, the 3DS is capable of DLC.
>Could they have painted over the old games?
That's what every third version has been to date anon. Like I said the only difference is that there were no other options to play them.

>the DLC would not have been free
Please, learn to read.
>Oh and no one said that it should be free.
In fact the argument here is that the content in USM isn't worth the full price not that it's completely worthless.

>You're honestly telling me you wouldn't entirely play the content you paid for?
Of course not the only parts I need to deal with are the new forms and items because of the convenience of Bank and the fact that I have a living dex. I play video games to mess around not waste my time with a story that already dragged on to begin with.
>What's the point then?
To play the game maybe? You do realise you're saying that in saying there's no point in buying DLC you're also saying there's no point to USM right?
In this scenario the DLC offers the same content as USM does only without the obnoxious story.

Cont.

>>32694176
>You're asking for DLC, but by the sounds of it you don't really wanna play it.
Correction, YOU don't want to play it as shown in my other post. I don't see the content they're offering as worth the full price.

>Read above
Read what exactly?
What in this post actually holds any water?
Don't act smug unless you have an argument.

>They CAN make an update or DLC, but that'd be shooting themselves in the leg.
How would they be shooting themselves in the leg?
Third versions never sell as well as the first ones, possibly because of the parent factor, but with DLC they can exploit those parents that are reluctant to buy the new game for their child and older players who can justify the price point. That's why Nintendo's online service is so much cheaper than PSN and XBL.
If they really wanted to as well they could do a limited physical version of the update like most modern fighters and ACNL for people in dire need of a physical version.

>Did you just assume that they were the same person as me?
You do realise your methods of arguing are all deflection, meaningless jargon or just outright ignoring things right?
Why wouldn't someone like you focus on a typo instead of a legitimate argument?
>You're kind of an ass, dude.
Doesn't exactly mean much from you does it.

>>32694278
>Most of the argument is that they're making this to net a profit yet here you are now arguing that they wouldn't profit as much if it was just DLC.
Gamefreak aren't exactly the smartest group of people if you look at their track record. I mean, the poly count of their models pretty much tells you everything.
>Don't you think that's a little ass backwards?
That's the problem, GF IS ass backwards. Instead of going with DLC and saving money on production while showing the fans that they can be smart they slapped on DLC, split the game and sold it at full price. Needless to say USM probably won't sell as well as SM did especially if that lackluster announcement is how they're starting

cont.

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>>32694278
>Because you surely have more brain on you than he combined heads of everybody at GameFreak.
We're talking about a group of people who refuse to accept modern customs, refuse to fix the issue with the models and are purposely reducing the amount of meaningful content in their games due to the "modern audience" and their lack of interest
They're not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.
On that note, why do you think DLC became commonplace? Because they make a hell of a lot of money from players.

>By all means, post another smug anime picture for me, would you?
Way to show your attention span anon, I haven't posted any smug anime images but here's one just for you.

Anything's better than going back to Kanto and if you disagree, you're delusional.

>>32695493
Kanto has dungeons so no.

>>32690129
>>32689793
>>32689738
>>32689338
>>32689336
>>32690513
What kind of shitposter are you? That makes them totally different from Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum.

The former are minor changes, B2W2 are major changes.

>>32695525
It also has nothing but plains, a forest and lots of caves.

>>32688999
While I agree that gen 5 is best gen, that doesn't change the fact that people being surprised at what a third version is confirms this board is full of underaged.

>>32695640
So more level design than Alola?
What's wrong with that?

>>32688973
I want to commit a crime with Lillie.

>>32695669
>that doesn't change the fact that people being surprised
No one is surprised at the fact that there is a third version as much as they're surprised that GF would try and pass off a third version as two games at full price without any reason for doing so.

Believe it or not this is the first time they've ever done something as Jewish as this.

>>32695717
>This delusion

>>32696457
So I take it you've never played a Kanto or Alola game then.

>>32688973
What makes me laugh is that people here wished for Stars all fucking day, which is a shitty 3rd version port.

>>32696863
>What makes me laugh is that people here wished for Stars all fucking day
It was only a handful of loud shitposters anon. No one believed Stars would happen because the leaks were already disproven.

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>Emerald was better then Ruby/Sapphire
>Platinum was better then Diamond and Pearl
>Black 2 and White 2 were better then Black and White

I don't understand why people are upset about Ultra Sun and Moon, if it includes everything that was cut from Sun and Moon it should be WAY more interesting.
>Golf Course
>Updated Fossil Restoration Center
>All those in accessible caves being explorable
>A use for the alternate universe warp post game where you get Cosmog
>Necrozoma lore
>More Trials
>Possible Gyms
>Possible Lillie post-game instead of her leaving forever
>More customization

And more importantly, a hint at what's to come in the future. Sun and Moon didn't really have a hint similar to the Strange Souviner in ORAS and now we know why. USM though should include something about Gen 8 or DP/BW remakes.