http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-v ideo-games/pokemon-gold-

>>32688427
Does the virtual console hold up? I've been wanting to play Yellow and Gold, but never pulled the trigger on it

Good shit. Now the real question is will they add the Celebi event in there, or will they stay true to the game and keep Celebi locked away forever?

Shiny Ditto is back

>>32688495
It's the exact same thing, maybe it loads a little faster but there's nothing changed or new

>>32688515
I'm gonna say locked away forever.

Finally, after all these years, I can get a HA Legendary Beast Trio for my collection.

>>32688495

Do you care about hidden abilities or body slam Sheer force Tauros? That's the main reaosn to get them as opposed to emulating.

Why notbcrystal

>>32690177
>Do you care about hidden abilities
I'm actually autistic enough to care, but I have hidden abilities for most of them already
Although HA legendary sounds nice

I was so hyped that maybe they would release them after direct. But fuck no.
LOL SEPTEMBER LMAO PLS UNDERSTAND

>>32688427
Hopefully Gold and Silver mons aren't forced to have their hidden abilities so that we can have No Guard Fissure Machamp.

>>32688495

What do you mean "hold up"? It's literally the same fucking games.

>no Crystal
BRAVO GAMEFREAK

>>32690240
>i can't wait for three/four months: the post

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>no crystal
one fucking job

Also why september? Why not like July or something to last us the summer?

>>32690199
>>32690299
>>32690376
probably a bunch of bullshit with the PCC making them skip Crystal, or at least hold it off for later

>>32690428
They got away with releasing Yellow, how is this any different?

>>32690499
Did they mention Yellow when they announced Red and Blue? Might be just a marketing trick not to bring up the "best" version so that the other two don't get ignored by the buyers.

>>32690499
Because Yellow was hardly any different. In Crystal you had that Pokemon Center event in Goldenrod.

>>32690499
The PCC allowed for online play in Japan with a cellphone and it would require a lot more work to get online play going, though clearly they wouldn't use a phone again. Several aspects of Crystal just don't work right in Japan without the PCC.

Then it'd be unfair for the west, who never got the Mobile Adapter and had the PCC stripped.

>>32690566

Yellow got announced along with RB

If they released Crystal, everybody would just buy that. Crystal is just so much better.
>B-but yellow..
Yellow is shit version

>>32690601
We still got Crystal. It'll come later.

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>>32690199
>>32690299
>>32690376
Works on my machine. :^)

>>32690584
>In Crystal you had that Pokemon Center event in Goldenrod
But that is possible in non-Japanese Crystal. Look it up.

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>>32690664
>tfw I know I'll cave in and buy Silver before they release Crystal
I hate Nintendo so much.

>>32690654
>Yellow is shit version
>when the battle sprites don't look like dogshit and enemy teams are actually halfway decent

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>>32688427
>Time Capsule still works
>no mention of Mystery Gift

>>32690376
>The version with the Battle Tower doesn't get released
Of course it would be, it's ORAS all over again!
I am being facetious, the battle tower in Crystal was garbage and even worse today's iterations

>>32690584
>>32690601
Hardly an excuse.
They have the technology, they have the money, but as we know they're lazy beyond belief and are incapable of putting in any modicum of effort in what they do because the brand sells like hot bread regardless.
Saying Crystal will be skipped on VC because of the online play thing is pretty stupid.

>>32690710
Mystery Gift in GSC requires a GBC to enable and use. You can enable it on a GBA but it's useless due to the lack of IR port.

GS don't even let you enable it on a GB.

>>32690730
No one said Crystal will be skipped.

>>32690747
The 3DS has an IR port, though—or they could emulate it.
But more likely it just won't do anything.

>>32690724
The Battle Tower in Japanese Crystal uses the Mobile System GB. The non-Japanese version is vastly different.

>>32690724

It'd be pointless now anyway. All you get are Vitamins and they aren't going to release Stadium compatilbity and it's not like stat.exp translates to e.vs.

>>32690827
Stat experience = EVs

>>32690827
But that's wrong.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mystery_Gift#Items

>>32690850

You wanna show me how to build up stat.exp in gen 1 VC that will turn into evs when imported?

>>32690796
They'll emulate the games in GBC mode so you can still enable Mystery Gift.

>>32690896
Well, of course you can't import them, they changed how it works in RS.

>>32688427
So why no Crystal? Yellow VC was released with the inferior versions, why not Crystal?
>Every game is going to be compatible now
Feels good.

>>32690922
That's what he meant dum-dum. Using Vitamins in GSC are pointless because they'd get wiped transfering to the modern system.

>>32690850
Not at all. Same basic concept, but different execution and mechanics.

>>32690876

I'm talking about the Battle Tower and how the rewards would be pointless for VC since all it gives you are Vitamins. Since you need competitive mon to do remotely decent in it, there's no point to it since the rewards that make raising more easier is pointless since there's no stadium and the starts won't stay when moved upward.

>>32690953
Because they are likely still thinking on how to emulate the Mobile System GB. Fans have been able to do that but only in a limited fashion.

>>32690991
I thought they were just going to leave the defunct since it will just be irrelevant for the modern era.

>>32690968
>No Stadium re-release
Stop reminding me... at least I still have old games even though I'll have to replace the batteries in them. Stadium had a way better version of the Pokebank with item transferring and storage added onto it.

>>32690968
Oh, right.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Tower_(Generation_II)#Prizes

>HA for Johto mons
>Elemental Punches for plenty of mons
>some Physical Waters get Waterfall again
>Icy Wind for VGC speed control (if VGC 18 allows for USUM to have transfers)
Who benefits the most for this?

>>32691034
>>Icy Wind for VGC speed control (if VGC 18 allows for USUM to have transfers)

VGC is still gen 6/7 only IIRC.

>>32691030
>All Pokémon must be less than or equal to the level of battle challenged. Levels are in intervals of 10, and the player can only choose levels 50 to 100 after entering the Hall of Fame.
>No two Pokémon can be holding the same item.
>Items cannot be used by Trainers on their Pokémon.
>Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Celebi are only allowed to be entered if the level chosen is 70 or higher. Eggs are not allowed to enter.
This was the shit.

>>32690684
How?

>>32691059
VGC 17 was SM dex only.
USUM has Pokemon added in that weren't in SM vanilla so it stands to reason VGC 18 will be USUM-dex only.

But VC transfers would be nice to mix it up

>>32691110
He's using CFW.

>>32691013
They might bring it back if they are emulating the Time Capsule.

Maybe Nintendo is waiting to get the server ready again since they shut it down in December 2002.

I bet they're going to release Crystal a few months later, just to make compulsive retards buy G/S AND Crystal instead of only the superior version.

>>32691110

Do you not know you can inject VC games in a hacked 3DS?

>>32691110
His dad works for nintendo

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This makes me think of a question. I tried googling it to no success, so maybe I can get it here.

So you can transfer from rby and eventually gs to sun/moon, I got that. Is it only to gen 7 or can I put em' in oras/xy? Just wondering. My guess is that if it's a pre-gen 6 mon and its in bank it should be fine, but GF being GF gives me doubts.

>>32688515
>crystal VC never
>no ilex forest celebi
>no shiny celebi
why even live
Though, maybe if you can pull off the Celebi Egg glitch...

>>32688427
What's the best mon for a G/S speedrun?

>>32688427
This will be really good if mons transferred to gen7 keep the info of what Pokeball they are in.

>>32688515
You are aware that Celebi was distributed to Gold and Silver in 2000 before Crystal was a thing, right?

>>32688427
>no Crystal
>meaning no Battle Tower
Man that's a bummer, there's going to be nothing to do in Johto after Red.

>>32692183
Read the thread. No one said that Crystal isn't coming.

>>32692192
Oh I'm sure its coming, next summer or some shit. Ah well, I'll have bought Silver by then.

>>32692264
Why don't you wait? Maybe they'll finish the Mobile System GB localization that they left incomplete back then and we'll finally get the real Crystal.

Do I have to use the Pokebank app to transfer the Pokemon to the newer games or does homebrew like Pokehex or PKSM support it the same way too? Did they in RBY?

>>32691618
They announced and released Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow at the same time because Blue and Yellow didn't bring significant changes, even though Yellow was a more noticeable update since Game Freak updated the Pokémon movesets to match Gold and Silver better in addition to Game Boy Printer support and Pikachu's Beach, among other things like letting you in the Safari Zone by charging you less if you don't have at least ¥500 and thus giving you less Safari Balls for the Safari Game.

Crystal introduced and altered a lot of things from Gold and Silver so they're releasing the latter first since it's easier to emulate them completely.

>>32692004
>>32692472
You can only transfer Pokémon from RGBY and GS to Bank and then retrieve them in SM and USUM. XY and ORAS aren't supported in this context.

>>32692572
Yeah but can I do it via homebrew? I'm NNID banned from the system so Bank is one of the things I can't access, like Miiverse. It should be easy to find the answer since we have a precedent with RBY but I'm coming up short, all I find are outdated threads made before RBY even came out, and maybe PkHex has added support for emulating the VC transfer since then.

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>>32688427
>"The two games return as Virtual Console titles for systems in the Nintendo 3DS family on September 22, 2017."
>New Pokemon Sun and Moon games.
Gamefreak,make up your fucking mind.

>>32692642
I think you can but I don't know how.

>>32692721
Wait, they only mention USUM support when it comes to Bank and GS VC. Hmm...

Any chance they'll find a way to let us trade with the other games we've downloaded? I don't want to have to grab a second 3DS and do 4 trades just to do the fucking shiny ditto glitch.

>>32692997
No.

I got a question /vg/

Is it worth going back to Gold and Silver after being so used to Heart Gold/Soul Silver?

>>32693066

Do you need HA Ho-oH or Lugia?

>>32691937
kek

>>32693066
Please don't mind my nitpicking but I need to satisfy my autism. The first two sets of remakes are titled in CamelCase so it's FireRed and LeafGreen, not Fire Red and Leaf Green. Likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver, not Heart Gold and Soul Silver. On the other hand, it's Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, not OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, not UltraSun and UltraMoon.

But anyway, sure. Gold and Silver are very different from HeartGold and SoulSilver. If you pay attention, you'll notice the subtle things in Crystal that aren't in the other four games.

>>32692997
No

>>32692997
Never.

>>32690268
Hopefully they are so we can get easy manipulated natures on HA Lugia/Ho-oh

>>32693083
Would that be the only reason?

Gen II or Gen VI are probably my toss up for Gens I played the most, and I felt like the DS remakes for Gen II were amazing, but I'm sure there's stuff they stopped doing or made impossible to get after Gen 3 kind of cut off the earlier games.

I also wonder if the experience still holds up.

>>32688515
Its gonna be distributed when the games launches, much like the Mew which was given to people in Japan and UK

>>32693224

Imports are the only reason to pay for it instead of emulating. Emulators at least let you use cheats to skirt around trade evos.

>>32693241

>inb4 fixed I.V's so shiny Celebi is still illegal.

>>32693241
This. And they distributed Celebi back in the day before Crystal.

>>32693381
Well I meant more the game itself instead of paying for it again.

>>32693224
gen 2 still got 10/10 sprites and soundtrack.
I'm gonna say that the experience still holds up.

>>32693409
>implying Shiny locking is new
Event Mew distributed to RGBY in the 1990s had specific DVs that didn't allow it to be Shiny in GSC.

>>32693241
Pretty much. They're gonna advertise it with the games imho.

>>32693467

That's the exact thing I was referring too which is why I mentioned the fixed stats.

>>32693454
I still love Ampharos's Gen II sprite. It's what made him into my favorite pokemon.

He's such a dopey looking Sheep but he's got that smile that I can't help but want to cheer him on.

>>32693492
Define "Gen II sprite". Gold and Silver have different sprites and Crystal uses a bit both for the poses but with the correct designs and colors.

>>32688427
prankster murkrow/honchkrow with curse. Poison heal gliscor with curse. It will be glorious

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>>32693590
Not him, but my nigga here looks dope.

>>32693590
Also, Japanese and Korean Gold and Silver have different sprites for some of the Pokémon as well.

Speaking on which, did they announce this for South Korea as well?

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>>32693590
Huh, I guess I forgot, but I was thinking of Crystal's.

>>32693613
I never use Gengar but his design is 10/10.

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>>32693786
I like ghost types in general but Gengar is my bro, even though a ghost he is more "devilish" and i guess thats what makes him cool oh and he also feeds on souls so thats nice too i guess.

>>32693839
I'm more drawn to dark types, visually, or Psychic.

I do like a lot of Ghost hybrids though, like Chandelure, or Mimikyu

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>>32693909
i dont mind dark types either, hellhounds and classy crows are fine with me. As for phychic i always thought it was a tryhard type, picked by people who only care to win, maybe its just me though.

>>32688427
>can catch Pokemon in Kurt with out having to transfer things from HGSS to Gen V to Bank
>when transferred through the bank the Pokemon will just be in regular pokeballs

I know this is a nitpick, and the games didn't remember what balls the pokemon were in caught in until Gem lll, but still would have been nice.

>>32694044
>balltism

>>32694439

>He wants his mons in unfitting balls.

Once had a Blissily in a dusk ball. It annoyed me so much I threw it away and replaced it with a love ball one.

>no crystal

Glad I hacked this thing. I knew they were going to fuck up the gen 2 release some how

>>32694476
Why are you guys so annoyingly pessimistic? Crystal will come later.

I wonder if Jynx will be censored in the Japanese and Korean versions since they will be also emulated in Game Boy Color mode. In Gold, Silver, and Crystal, Jynx was only censored in the West.

>>32690117
Shame their HA got cucked this gen

>>32694644
I wonder if they did it on purpose.

>>32694476
Wew anon, you're sure going to miss a lot without that Suicune sidequest.

>>32695162
As if that were the most important addition in Crystal.

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>tfw I'll have to buy 2 versions on my 2 systems in order to evolve my Seadra and Scizor

>>32693958
Given that Psychic hasn't been a "powerful" type for about 10 years or so, seeing it as the tryhard type is pretty stupid tbqh.

Hopefully USUM have Alolan forms for Johto Pokemon to tie into this.

>>32696522
I'm praying for this.

>>32696416
I dont mean in a competitive sense because i dont bother with that shit, i mean for an average player or in-game characters.

>ha legendary beasts are finally available
>after they got nerfed horribly

t-thanks

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I'm genuinely curious if the VC versions of G/S will support the Infra Red features.

It'll be pretty amazing if it even supports the Pokémon Pikachu GS

>No Pokemon Stadium 2 on Switch VC with 3DS VC connectivity

Dropped

>>32697066
Oh god I would love it to support the Pikachu GS, I still have mine in a drawer in my room.

>>32697116
I wish I'd kept mine, I did the stupidly magnanimous thing of gifting it to someone who I'd thought could use it more, but probably didn't look after it like I would have.

>>32697066
The Mystery Gift itself can be enabled on a GBC and GBA but not on a GB.

Does the 3DS even support IR?

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>>32697342
Yes, the 3DS has an infra red port. It's an often overlooked feature, it at most has been used for making the Circle Pad Pro connect, but odd things like infra red communications in Gen VI and VII Pokémon games exist like at VGC I think? It's in the Mystery Gift menu.

Wouldn't that be a laugh though? The mystery gift in VC G/S being compatible with the mystery gift in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, using the 3DS IR port!

>>32697437
>The mystery gift in VC G/S being compatible with the mystery gift in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, using the 3DS IR port!
Sounds unlikely because Mystery Gift in GSC is very different from Mystery Gift in FRLGE, DPPt, HGSS, BW, B2W2, XY, ORAS, SM, and USUM. It was originally used to receive items randomly but it has been about getting Wonder Cards that give you event and/or rare items and Pokémon since FRLG.

>>32697507
Nothing to say that the 3DS title can't detect it's a G/S VC transmission, and unlock some sort of bonus for it.

The G/S VC side would probably just do the typical mystery gift bonus item.

who gives a fuck. this is for pokemon go normie genwunners who can only play the gameboy ganes

>>32697533
>>>/v/

>>32692027
I dunno m8, the Mew Glitch Mew and other Mew Glitch Pokemon are trapped in RBY because of ID numbers or something.

>>32697517
They didn't announce anything about Mystery Gift despite saying that the Time Capsule will be supported so it's highly unlikely.

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What mons are worth importing from R/B/Y? I didn't even know you could transfer mons from them to SuMo.

>>32697646
Take these things in mind:

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Transporter#From_Generation_I

>>32697646
God there really is a Pepe for everything isn't there

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>>32697674
You know it!

>>32691078
Definitely beats the Battle Tower in RS, which only had level 50 or "open level", where if your Pokemon wasn't level 100, you're fucked..

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>>32697646
>SuMo
what are you fags going to do about he new games then, USuUMo ?

>>32697787
Yeah, in Crystal, you can go to the Battle Tower as soon as you reach Olivine City. In non-Japanese versions, you can enter lv10/20/30/40 battles by that point, with the only restriction in place being the inability to use Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and/or Celebi.

>>32697834
USM actually which is perfectly acceptable and simple this time around, except now the anti-Reddit contrarians here are rebelling against it and are instead pushing for USUM, which is just as retarded as SuMo was.
It's amazing how far some will go to be contrarian to everything Reddit does.

so will they tweak shiny DV requirements to match gen 1 vc releases

or will you have "two rolls" at shininess for kanto mons

>>32691034
who learns waterfall on gen 2 but not on gen 6-7?

>>32697869
USUM is official as per the Japanese site URL for the game.

>>32697671
>>32697834
Anons this didn't not answer my question.

>>32698530
That's up to you.

>>32690240
Hopefully this means they might be on switch virtual console

>>32697569
The 8F exploit allows people to solve that issue though, albeit through an elaborate process.

>>32700355
Using 8F in conjunction with the Time Capsule should end us up with some interesting results.

>>32688427
Im not familiar with these games, such as I've never played them. Are they glitchy like RBY?

>>32700752
They have some silly bugs but Game Freak did a far better job than they did with RGBY for a variety of reasons.

>>32690601
The mobile compatibility is all in the English version, but partially untranslated. They'd be able to implement it if they really wanted to badly enough.

>>32688427
shame the pokemon I catch in apricorn balls won't carry over through pokebank with these.

>>32700893
That is only partially true. The assets are there but the code itself may not be.