Suffering Chart: Two Charts Edition

>>32649802
Raichu
S:100
D:30

Huh, we have one of these as well? Sweet

Why the fuck do we have two charts though?

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>>32649873

>>32649902
People kept shitting on the first
The second one is just as bad

>>32649798
>Unova
40 Deserving, 45 actual suffering

>Dragon Higher suffering then poison and electric
>Fire less suffering then all 3 of them, only as much as water and ghost

this doesn't seem right

Also, why is emerald so high in suffering? Everybody loves that game

Potentially controversial opinion, but move ORAS to the battle frontier under construction spot above sinnoh.

There's no real reason for them to be seperate, and ORAS gets way more shit then it deserves due to being a RS remake rather then an emerald one

Was rampardos removed?

>>32649929
Assuming we go with this one, add pokken to 80 suffering, 10 deserve

>>32649798
Sorry for being a newfag, I don't really get this chart, can someone explain.

>>32650802
its obvious

GS Ball
S: 65
D: 40

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>>32650225
THANK GOD
THE OG CHART IS BACK

s: 75
d: 95

>120

Posting the kid and not the anon who use to always make threads about the kid being cringey.

Professors:

>Oak
S: 20 D: 50
>Elm
S: 60 D: 45
>Birch
S: 65 D: 55
>Rowan
S: 10 D: 55
>Juniper
S: 60 D: 55
>Sycamore
S: 30 D: 60
>Kukui
S: 35 D: 55

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>these guys
s: 80
d: 55

also team flare would probably be around
s: 60
d: 70

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s: 5
d: 55

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any idea on where to put this guy? he doesn't really deserve to suffer.

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blue = too much suffering
red = not enough suffering
green = goldilocks suffering

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>>32651933
>Pic Related
45S, 40D

>>32651292
I'd say his suffering should be 55 to 65 but it looks like we've ran out of spots. I mean he DID get slapped around by Chuck and his guys at Cianwood.

But what's the deal with Steven though, did he even suffer at all?

Holy shit this chart is filling up fast

Can we put something representing the whole series as 40,65? I don't even know how you'd do that but I feel like we all give the games more shit than they deserve sometimes.

Which, not to imply that they don't deserve a lot of shit for the decisions they make. Just, maybe a little less.

>>32651999
Maybe 55,70.

>>32649798
Ballio and the crew

100% suffering
50% deserved

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replace porygon with this

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s: 95
d: 70

>Harley
S: 55 D: 90
>Drew
S: 45 D: 60

>>32649798
Tobias should be MUCH father along the "deserve to suffer" axis

Move Lillie from D:50 to D:90

Swap AZ with Pokken Tournament

>>32652205
Wait, nevermind. Sweet ending made me forget about the mass genocide.

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Put some entries here:
>JustinRPG
A tragic man whose destiny is an impossible quest. S:95, D:70
>Ken Sugimori
A guy who turned his autism into one of the most profitable video game franchises ever. Akira Toriyama wannabe and inventor of low tier waifus and Goodra. S:80, D:85
>Jovi (Pokequest 1)
A bratty fuck which gets her way even while /vp/ guides her fate. S:85, D:90
>Oniichan (Pokequest 2)
A pretty OK guy who was cursed with /vp/ guiding his destiny.
S:75, D:40

PMD Dusknoir at S 55 D 90

>>32652216
Switch Fairy Type and Tobias

>>32652469
And then after that, switch Fairy and Rowan

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S 80 D 70

>>32649798
Nidoking should be on there
>can't breed with Nidoqueen
>used as a special attack despite higher attack
>literal king of manlets

It's shit
Most make zero sense or are headcannons

>>32652837
Seeing as most of these are either blank slate generic NPC classes or individual Pokemon species (not characters), of course. I don't think even this franchise is big enough to fill the entire chart.

>>32652216
In which way Probopass or that black girl have suffered more than Lillie?

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Suffering is 85
Deserving is 100
Hornfags are stupid.

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Suffers: 55
Deserves: 60

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>>32656932
55 dts, 10 s

>>32657672
>>32656932
Was rampardos removed? or was it just mpoved and i'm not seeing it's new location

>>32657973
Yes, it was removed
>>32657672
There are two Claires unless one of them is from the anime

>>32657982
Where are the two Claires?

Besides, I wonder why N is too low in suffering in comparison to some non-canon choices like that kid with the Pikachu left to Rattata, considering he was fooled by Ghetsis his entire life and his only sin was to be an useful fool.

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Ok, added 2 more entries:
Bounsweet (S:100,D:20) -> Read her Dex entry and tell me that life as a Bounsweet isn't suffering.
Tsareena (S:50,D:85) -> She just loves being a sadistic fuck
Questy (S:5,D:15) -> The namefag who drew Pokequest 1 and 2 with /vp/ guidance.

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>>32658701
How about switching N and Hydreigon

Add Wally to the Houndoom Jasmine spot
Your choice if you want to change the regular Jasmine pic are 15,30 to that pic instead

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>>32658813
Done.

>>32649798
Why are Red and Black so high in the deserved tier?

>>32649798
We're there really no better choices for 100S/5D?

Pokken deserved to suffer for its shit roster, awful announcer and barebones content. In spite if that it still sold like 1,5 million so it's not like suffered all that much.

>>32661436
I'd put the Eevee trainers from SM in that spot myself

Pokken should go somewhere near the middle. Maybe 65 S/70 D.

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S: 70
D:65

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S: 45
D: 65

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>>32661436
I would put AZ's Floette in place of Pokken Tournament.

>Be killed by some huge war
>Your trainer gets so mad about it that genociding half of the world just to have you back seems for him a sensible idea
>You are back
>But you quickly realize you were bathed with the blood of thousands of Pokemon that shouldn't have died
>You get so mad with that you leave AZ forever
>You don't know if you should be alive for the sacrifice of those Pokemon not to be in vain or should be dead because living beings aren't meant to be revived

>>32661899
Why Walrein? I'd replace it with Garchomp.

>>32661709
>>32661899
Well fuck put it in S: 75 D: 70

>>32662070
Why?

>>32661899
Why does Pokken deserve suffering? It's geniuinely great

Swap N with the Sawsbuck.

>>32661899
I don't mind eternal flotte being moed to 0d 100S but pokkken still needs to be relatively close to where it was: At least 80 or above suffering, and 25 or below deserved

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S 80 D 75

>>32662268
Why?

>>32662290
Mewtwo is already in the chart.

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>>32662294
Oh fuck, I'm blind. I didn't see him.
Take this instead. S 80 D 75

>>32662119
See >>32661436

>>32662318
>S 80
???

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>>32662326
It's shiny Garchomp. It barely looks any different. See pic related.

>>32661937
Battle frontier "RNG"

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Suffering: 80
Deserving: 90

>>32661899
Why is Darkrai on there twice?

TWO CHARTS

ONE FAMILY

why's grovyle on there? Didn't everything turn out OK in explorers of sky?

>>32663241
He still went through a lot of shit in the first place.

>>32662879
One is meta, the other is PMD

>>32649798
>Alain deserves 100 suffering
Who's the Ashbabby that voted for this?

>>32663241
If you put PMD characters, please put the pixelated portraits used in those games, like Gardevoir's, Gengar's and Wigglytuff's.

>>32662294
pokken at least got great production system. The fighting system was really creative as an anime fighter and its pretty balanced. It suffered because the WIIU version was forgotten by nintendo and is a dead game now

>>32662294
>Why?

Because:

>Has a great roster that balances out fan favorites of multiple demographics with body, type, and playstyle variety
>Has tons of nods to the official games in moves, effects, supports, and stages
>Has actual competitive depth
>One of the most well balanced fighting games ever, every character is extremely viable at the highest level and has won majors, most tier lists only have 3-4 tiers with all but 1-2 characters in the top 2-3 tiers

Yet

>0 marketing
>WiiU version hasn't gotten any of the DLC/post 1.3 updates
>Barely any official support/tournaments
>community raised over 60k$ for evo and almost won but lost by a hair's breadth to marvel
>People think the scene is dead even though it's not
>FGCucks don;t like it because they assume it's casualshit just because >Nintendo
>Smashbabies won;t play it because it's too much of a traditional fighter
>Pokemon fans won;'t play it because their one obscure bromon isn't in

The fact that >>32661436 is bitching about the roster is a perfect example of the fact it gets suffering it doesn't deserve, the roster is great, people are just assmad their bro isn't in.

I do agree that the announcer is awful and it's lacking content, but that would only really warrant 5-20 deserved, certainly not fucking 60-70 like how it is after the move.

I propose that Pokken be moved to Iwata's spot. Iwata is already on /v/ chart, after all. Failing that, I suggest Looker and Nebby switch places, and then Looker through Pokemon Rumble on that row be moved over one to the right, so Pokken would be at the now empty spot where nebby is now

>>32664285
it's not dead, people just think it's dead, which is even worse.

>>32661899
>>32664980
>>32662294
Third potential option for Pokken: Move the shitty Pojo artworks at 90 suffering 90 deserve down to 80 deserved 80 suffering, with Phione moved one over to the left to make room.

Then, move James onward in the 90 suffering over 1 space each to the right, and put Pokken where James is now.

Let's roll...

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>>32661899
>60s 10d

>>32651346
>whitney
>not enough suffering
why would you want best girl to suffer more?

There are about 25 slots left, should we put random Pokemon in their places or not?

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>>32661899
Replace Jasmine's pic with the Houndoom one

>>32668272
Fuck off.

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AROOOOOORAsh needs to be changed to the following

D:100
S:0
all for ruining what could have been an amazing successor to XYZ


oh who am i kidding its still gonna suck fuckin dick for focusing on schoolshit

What is the point of this

>>32668420
It's a thing for people to channel their autism into.

>>32670110
>Z-Moves
15 Suffering
50 Deserving

>>32670110
replace Jasmine's pic with the Houndoom one
after all, this image is about suffering

>>32670414
No, and fuck off with your horrible fetishes.

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>>32670110
Use this for the rock type space instead of what's there, it's more visually consistent with the others

>>32670110
Archeops

>Glass Cannon with deadly type combination, speed and attack cucked by its own Ability

Deserves 65
Suffers 70