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It will soon join Regigigas, won't it? What went so goddamn

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It will soon join Regigigas, won't it?
What went so goddamn wrong and is there any way humanly possible to uncuck this poor thing?
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>>32632951
No, that thing is way too bulky for NU.
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>>32632951
Aura Sphere, Signal Beam or Dazzling Gleam.
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Prism Armor actually benefits it rather than hinders it, so it'll never sink to the level of Regigigas.
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I didn't follow the competitive scene. Why is Necrozma supposedly so bad? Besides being a mono-psychic type, I mean.
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>>32632951
No. It has STAB Psycho Cut and Brick Break for Dark or Steel types. It also has 2 setup options and good bulk for PU/NU
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>>32633109
The only three moves Necrozma can use when up against a Dark type are Stealth Rock, Thunder Wave and Toxic. The latter two can be invalidated by Substitute or Taunt, at which point Necrozma is a sitting duck that lets your opponent do whatever he wants, like set pebbles or boost his attack and sweep your team. It's even worse for offensive variants (Calm Mind / Rock Polish) - opponent can hard switch their Dark type into it with no consequences whatsoever, unless you predict that and switch to your own Fighting type wallbreaker.

>>32633123
Physical Necrozma is terrible, with weak Attack stat and low BP moves.
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>>32633144
>107 Attack
>Weak
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>>32632951
Tbh Necrozma got a far better start than Zygarde and hopefully its alt form won't be an ability gimmick
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>Putting more legendaries in weaker tiers
Yes, we really need a Landerous T of PU
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>>32632951
At least it had its 5 minutes of fame when Baton Pass was still allowed
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>>32633187

it is when it can't be boosted without items.

sub 120 base stats don't mean much anymore when the average OU stat is 120+
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It's too powerful for OU at +1
:^)
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>>32633272
>What is Baton Pass + Sword Dance?
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>>32633280
A banned strategy.
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>>32633144
107 attack is good enough for lower tiers. 90BP STAB and a 75BP move that covers both of its weakness is good enough for lower tiers
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>>32632951
Thousand Prisms
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>>32633144
>The only three moves Necrozma can use when up against a Dark type are Stealth Rock, Thunder Wave and Toxic
Why not just fucking use Hidden Power?
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>>32633209
>Tbh Necrozma got a far better start than Zygarde
gen 6 zygarde was way better than necrozma is now
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>>32633422
>60 base power non-stab move coming off fucking 127 base spa
it does nothing
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Like Glalie, Necrozma is only bad under Smogon's metagame. It's a perfect Baton Pass recipient, but Smogon just banned that move.
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>>32633432
Tell that to Magnezone.
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>>32633452
Zone runs HP fire specifically for the 4x weak Scizor and Ferrothorn after trapping them, it doesn't use it on anything else.
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>>32633430
>inb4 le smogon fanfic meta
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>>32633272
necrozma have sd
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>>32633457
The only commonly used Dark types in OU worth shitting your pants over if you're using Necrozma are Bisharp and Tyranitar. Both of which are going to be comitting suicide if you run HP Fighting.
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>>32633432
Actually impossible to do this because atlleast 3 perfect ivs means hp fighting is impossible.
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>>32633422
HP Fighting is currently illegal because of IV fuckery.
HP Fairy doesn't exist because lol GF.
HP Bug is mediocre as hell because lol Bug. Hidden Power in general is only good when hitting 4x weak targets because of its pathetic base power and the only Dark types 4x weak to it are Hoopa-U (OU, possibly Uber soon), Malamar (lol) and Cacturne (lol). Out of 11 Dark types between UU and RU three (Bisharp, Honchkrow and Mandibuzz) are neutral to HP Bug and just straight up murder the poor Necrozma.
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>>32633508
252 SpA Necrozma Hidden Power Fighting vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 176-208 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


That is, of course, with 252 Sp. Atk EVs, which that necrozma set would never run. Realistically, it'd look more like:

0 SpA Necrozma Hidden Power Fighting vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 144-172 (42.1 - 50.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
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>>32633508
Don't forget that HP Fighting is impossible to get on Legendary Pokemon now. As >>32634169 said
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