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Buff a Pokemon with a small change. Don't be ridiculous.

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Buff a Pokemon with a small change. Don't be ridiculous.
>Gets merciless
Can now spam overheat on toxic spike/toxic spam teams without worrying about drops.
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Give Shedinja Pain Split
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>>32606052
>Pain Split and Shadow Sneak! xD

Straight to AG!!! (you) cheecky cunt. Add Magic Gaurd effect to Wonder Guard. get it? so no sneaky pebbles or status >:3
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>>32606111
Pain Split literally just functions as Super Fang if used by Shedinja, it's not Endeavor.
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>>32606052
Too much.

What about:
>Wonder guard now is LITERALLY "only super-effective hits"
By this I mean it also applies to the type of status moves that would affect shedinja. It isn't weak to poison so toxic doesn't hit it, but it is weak to fire so will-o-wisp does. Hail and spikes can't kill it, but sand and stealth rock can. Curse can affect it, but not perish song, as it is a normal-type move.

While it is still frail, it can now switch into a whole more mons that rely on toxic or simply have no moves that can hit it at all.
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>>32606127
>>32606052
>>32606121
Wait I was actually thinking of endeavor as I typed that.
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>>32606127
That sounds great!

What type is Rough Skin? Or Iron Barbs? Or Rocky Helmet? Or Recoil?
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>>32606030
THIS
Salazzle should've got Merciless while Toxapex got Corrosion
fucking game freak
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Give this little guy Levitate or Lightning Rod.
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>>32606145
Rocky helmet, rough skin and iron barbs are treated as typeless damage (although I'm tempted to say rocky helmet and rough skin are rock type damage, and iron barbs steel type damage, just to see what happens).

Recoil is definitely typeless damage but I'm unsure right now if shedinja even learns recoil moves at all so it doesn't matter.
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>>32606341
>tfw got a HA Pichu thinking a-Raichu would keep lighting rod
I regret not giving it electric terrain in that case
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Now gets Tinted Lens as its Hidden Ability.
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Fur Coat
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>>32606409
I'm surprized they didn't give it Fluffy 2bh
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>>32606030
it wouldnt crit steel and posion types
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>>32606409
>tfw there's still no auto trickroom ability
It would've been so good
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>>32606494
Auto trick room would be the most OP shit ever.
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>>32606463
no shit
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>>32606341
surge surfer is fucking amazing though, it could have that as an option like a HA or something though.
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>>32606030
Corrosion hit's Steel types.
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>>32606030
How about giving Salazzle a Poison-type U-Turn reskin? Instead of dealing damage, it poisons the opponent, then lets you switch out. Fails if the target cannot be poisoned (as in, already has a status ailment, or something like Immunity).

Is that ridiculous?
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>>32607657
If salazzle keeps corrosion, it might actually be pretty fucking powerful, depending on what kind of poison it inflicts:

If it is regular poison, it might not see much use but still, a status that hits everything and keeps momentum alive with salazzle's speed and ability might be very interesting.

If it is toxic poison it is downright broken.
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Give Starmie Regenerator.

It is technically a starfish, isn't it?
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It gets access to Close Combat/one of the elemental punches.
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Technician just so it has a good ability.
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>>32608166
>technician boosted fake out and ice shard
MUH DICK
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>>32608166
>>32609326
>literally Ambipom with worse typing
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>>32609381
And less moves to abuse the ability.
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>>32606548
If it only lasts for two turns and the mon with that ability is super frail, it's balanced.
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It now learns Play Rough. Literally all it needs to not be the worst Tapu competitively.
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Mewtwo with Sap Sipper
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>>32609481
You are a fucking idiot.
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Dazzling Delphox

Negating Sucker Punch, Shadow Sneak, Aqua Jet, -ate Quick Attack, etc.
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>>32609535
Care to explain, oh wise one?
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>>32609535
it is the worst tapu competitively. its still really good competitively. Being the worst of the best isnt a bad thing.
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>>32609547
Because it's fucking unnecessary. Neutral WH does more damage than a SE PR. Anything PR would hit harder is already dealt by Stone Edge. Get out of 1200s before you post.
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>gets rapid spin
It makes sense!
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>>32609561
>Anything PR would hit harder is already dealt by Stone Edge
What about Latios? What if you wanted to hit Chomp and Zygarde without massive recoil?
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>>32609600
Play rough from a life orb adamant bulu can OHKO a common latios set whereas both wood hammer and stone edge fail to do so.

I would like for it to be another physical fairy move that fits bulu more than "playing rough", but this works too. In the end is more a reason of flavor than if it needs it competitively or not, but that's just me.
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>>32609381
>Ice/Dark
>worse than Normal
Defensively? Fine, but they're both so frail that it hardly matters.
Offensively? Absolutely not.
>>32609600
>What about Latios?
Use Megahorn if you're so scared of it. Even then, CB Wood Hammer still has a shot at an OHKO.
>Chomp and Zygarde
CB Horn Leech 2HKOs both if you're a pussy.
Play Rough isn't enough to let Bulu leapfrog Fini and become the second-best Tapu.
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>>32609600
>>32609673
You guys are stupid and know shit about competitive. Bulu needs eq way more than it needs play rough
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>>32609820
>Bulu needs eq way more than it needs play rough
>when Grassy Terrain weakens EQ
I think you're the one who doesn't know shit about competitive.
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>>32609820
>eq
Close, but no. Tapu Bulu needs Ground coverage that specifically isn't Earthquake because Grassy Terrain halves the power of EQ while in effect. Bulu wants Drill Run or (heaven forbid) Thousand Arrows.
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>>32608166
>STAB technician beat up and ice shard
>not ridiculous
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Miltank now gets rapid spin
It can already learn rollout and gyro ball so fuck you
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>>32606030
You know, if this ever gets a mega my vote is for merciless.
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>>32609837
Drill run is all Bulu needs.

Play rough it's quite underwhelming in damage output when considering you get to use woodhammer.
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>>32609837
>>32611196
just give it High horsepower. That's almost as good as EQ without the terrain nerf
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>>32611204
To be honest I completely forgot that High Horsepower existed.
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>>32606127
I was just theory crafting two forms for shedninja, while I haven't done anything in the art department, I do have something - shedinja holds one of two pendants and transforms on switch in and stays transformed on switch out

Angelic Form:
holds the 'angelic pendant', ghost/fairy typing

Demonic Form:
holds the 'cursed pendant', ghost/dark typing

both have a new ability 'deity's guard': shedinja can now only be damaged by super effective moves and status/weathers, each hit sustained removes one of three orbs (effective 3hp) ; multi-hit moves still only hit for 1HP

as for stats, still thinking that up, but only a slight upgrade from what it's got now, although angelic form will be more of Sp. ATK fighter, while demonic will be more the same as an ATK fighter.

thoughts? balances?
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>>32611204
Drill run hot crit rate chance, also all of the Pokémon that learn HHP are heavy, Bulu doesn't fit that criteria.
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>>32611260
I've also thought of a third form, but I'm not sure where I'm going with it.

Madness Form:
holds the 'chaotic pendant', typeless (no STABs)

unique ability - Mandate: shedinja cannot be harmed by any method, but will faint in three turns, cannot be switched/forced out.

He essentially becomes a ticking timebomb.
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Would Tauros getting Head Charge help it?
>>32611260
>not being able to use focus sash
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Ariados, Tangrowth, Octillery, and Ledian get a new ability called Multitask that lets them hold 2 items at once. If they are items with directly contradictory effects, only one gets activated at a time, so you can't use Iron Ball and Air Balloon at the same time.
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>>32611346
nah give more phsyical moves to abuse sheerforce with
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>>32611346
he only takes 1HP a turn regardless (super effective move, status, weather), effective 3 HP each hit extinguishes an orb - on the mad form they simply go out each turn, but he'd have the highest stats. The idea is to make him something other than a 2 pump chump.
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>>32609381
I love visiting these types of threads and seeing the absolutely retards that inhabit. It's fucking amazing.
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>>32611356
>buffing tangrowth while simultaneously making it worse by removing regenerator
Literally why?
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I want forretress to get a recovery move so people will remember it again instead of ferrothorn
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>>32606570
how have you been using surge surfer?

any time ive attempted to use it or ive gone against it it seems awfully gimmicky and unreliable
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>>32611440
specs tbolt/volt switch/psychic/focus blast

you just hit hard and fast. That's all there is to it.
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>>32609481
Bulu is absolutely fine as it is.
Play Rough is another STAB but does absolutely jack for it. High Horsepower is worse coverage than Superpower against most relevant Steel types(and if they don't have a double resist, such as Magearna they struggle to take even a Wood Hammer). Maybe Close Combat would help it, but it doesn't really need any buff, and is actually more viable than Fini rn, at least in the Smogon meta.
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Aura Break tho
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Give it Triage
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Give it literally any ability that's not Slow Start
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>>32611260
>>32611340
Cringey as fuck.
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>>32609381
Dude Ambipom is shit stop forcing that meme
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>>32613054
Stall. You're welcome.
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>>32613054
Slaking Archeops
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>>32613054
Alright then now it has Defeatist
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>>32613054
No, give it Skill Swap.

Lucario should get Aura Break since it actually is the correct typings to fight Xerneas' Fairy Aura and Yveltal's Dark Aura. Get rid of that shitty Steadfast ability, literally no one likes it.

here's what everyone gets instead of stupid fucking Steadfast:

Mewtwo X- Technician
Tyrogue/Hitmontop- Own Tempo
Riolu/Lucario- Aura Break
Gallade- Trace
Machop/Machoke/Machamp- Defiant
Scyther- Speed Boost
Rockruff/Lycanroc Day- Skill Link, and Rockruff can learn Rock Blast now.
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Water Bubble after he changes forms.
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>>32606030
Mega Blastoise's ability is changed from mega launcher to something like compound eyes but named differently to make sense.

Never miss hydro pumps, focus blasts and blizzards.
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>>32613197
>Scyther- Speed Boost
I am ROCK hard
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>>32613226
YAMERO
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>>32606554
so it could worry about the drops
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>>32609528
>implying mewtwo has ever been bad
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>>32613054
My negro
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>>32613197
Forgive me of my retardation, but what moves does Mewtwo get that can utilize technician?
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>>32613094
>>32613109
Those are both still buffs, Slow Start is indisputably the second-worst ability in the game. Worst ability is Truant, the one that lets a level 25 Pelipper wall the shit out of you forever.
>>32613248
Or you could just give it Origin Pulse. Or Shell Smash. Either one works, though Shell Smash is probably broken.
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>>32613197
Pretty sure Lucario is still beaten mercilessly
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>>32613226
>252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Arceus: 422-500 (95 - 112.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO


>252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 312-368 (48.5 - 57.3%) -- 93.4% chance to 2HKO

>252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn in Rain: 348-408 (98.8 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Thank fucking god.
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>>32613413
>PuP
>Low Kick*
>Brutal Swing
>Assortment of special attacks
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>>32613422
The one 'mon that really should get Aura Break or in this case to keep it is Perfect Zygarde no more power construct bs
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