>Lysandre is the only villain to die in all three major continuities.

>>32592810
>Literally Pokemon Hitler
Yes. Fuck nazis.

Is that his blood in the third pic? Is the manga still 'dark'?

>>32592840
>>32592840
>blood
>dark

Do you call yourself edgy when you get a scratch?

>>32592833
Fuck off Jew

>>32592848
when you get a scratch its usually on something edgy so yes

He didn't die silly. He simply fainted out of existence.

>>32592848
shut the hell off, kid...

*cuts self, blood starts to flow*
*le forges sword out of blood*

prepare to die also arceus doesnt exist

>>32592840
The manga is only dark compared to the extremely lighthearted anime and games.

>>32592840
If you think the manga is dark, you probably haven't ever read any other manga. That, or you're either a 8yo child or said child's mom.

>>32592862
Not really. Its only dark if you're a 4kids censor and 4 kids censored the anime.
Pokespe never really does anything mature, unless you consider shit happening mature and the games have that too.

>>32592840
It never was.

>>32592868
>8yo child
Nah, a child would be cool with that. Most 8yo children are smarter than the average /vp/ poster anyways.

>>32592873
>Not really. Its only dark if you're a 4kids censor and 4 kids censored the anime.
>Pokespe never really does anything mature, unless you consider shit happening mature and the games have that too.
At least pokespe has a best storytelling than the average mature mangas of nowadays :^)

>>32592896
Dunno what you're mocking here but ok

>>32592810
>lysandre, a villain who never managed to succeed with his plan died
>lusamine, a child abuser who managed to succeed with her plan never got punished
fuck this world.

Lysandre literally did nothing wrong.

>>32592901
This. Truth has been spoken.

>>32592810
Lysandre was never confirmed as dead in the games. In fact Sycamore impliesour actions saved Lysandre

In the anime they also jut assume he died

In the manga he did die but the manga is known for killing characters and then bringing them back

>>32592901
>getting manipulated by a Pokemon's unknown toxins and probably becoming a vegetable for the rest of her life isn't punishment

What would you like to see happen to her

>>32592901
Lysandre at least nuked a town.
Lusamine at worst unleashes some potential threats that didnt do shit.
She does deserve to be in prison though, but you could say that about giovanni, maxie and archie too.

What happened to hgss team rocket leaders? I forgot.

>>32592914
First of all she NEVER was a vegetable, just weak and on top of that Lillie went tp Kanto to heal her

I dont get where people got "Lusamine is vegetable now" theory

>>32592901
>never got punished
because she is a woman

>>32592833
How about you fucklords stop demonizing people you've never met?

>>32592930

Why didn't Maxie and Archie get punished then?

>>32592943
because they both identify as women don't assume their gender shitlord

>>32592901
Lusamine's plan was personal and while it did bring harm to some people and pokemon, it did not involve the mass murder of an entire region. Also, she ended up being incapacitated and suffering from the effects of Nihilego neurotoxins, so she did get some comeuppance.

Lysandre did actually complete his plan- the weapon did go off, he just miscalculated the power and the trajectory of the blast which ended up landing back on the weapon and destroying it (and him.) The manga ended similarly.

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>>32592810
No, he did not. ;_;

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>>32592810
>PokeSperg
>major continuity

Next you'll include Nuzlocke!

>>32592935
If you're a nazi you are inherently a bad person and you do not deserve happiness or love in life.

I don't remember... All I honestly remember is that he gets those bug pod things that don't seem to resemble specific pokemon.
He was just generic evil from what little i recall.

>>32592848
There's a notable difference between a paper cut and being splattered on a rock, you autist. Even so, if a character got a small cut or something, it's usually illustrated as a small graze and no blood is shown

>>32592917
Lusamine's goal was to introduce us to cool new ultra beasts. She succeeded.
Lysandre had delusions of grandeur.

>>32592810
rip malva

also in X Lysandre is implied to get eternal life which is worse than Y's death

>>32592913

This.

>>32592967
You're in no position to judge any group you have never met before. The world isn't black and white, it's grey and gray.

>>32592882
Exactly, a kid would consider it cool because he would consider it edgy.

>>32592840
Do you consider Powerpuff 'dark'?

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>>32592810
Of course he deserved to die. His plan was to kill people. If he's going to kill, takes lives by force, he deserves to have his own life taken. He should be prepared to die if he wants to kill, and if he wants to kill, his death is justified as self defense.

That said, he did nothing wrong. He was easily the second best villain. I wish he hadn't died.

>>32593155
>defending Nazis because "the world isn't black and white, t-t-tumblr!"

They literally made Germany think an entire vague group of people were a scourge of the earth because they assumed some rich people were profiting off the current depression and also they were Jews maybe.

If you're going to be this defensive of your shit offensive humor, try a better argument, famalam.

>>32593252
Nobody even mentioned Tumblr. Sounds like you're projecting.

>>32593252
>saying "you're bad" without an argument
>asking for a counter-argument
(You)

>>32592810
yep

>>32592848
>>32593186
>>32592868
>>32592873

The reason I put dark in quotation marks was clearly because I meant it only in the loosest way I could. The question was implying whether it was 'dark' (more violent, serious toned, etc) compared to the, yes, extremely light-hearted games and anime.

Maybe some of you should chill a bit before throwing yourselves at others.

>>32593157
Do you know what the definition of edgy even is? The point is that is has to be provoking. If you agree that this isn't too much for a kid to see what is the problem? You're getting awfully close to soccer mom tier.

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>>32592868
>trying to act cool on a chinese cartoon board
Yes it's fucking dark compared to every other Pokemon media you stupid fuck. Show me any other Pokemon related thing with blood.

>>32592810
The pokespe artist really has a thing for ass shots. Even in death he puts Malva's ass prominently in the center of the shot.

The only good nazi is one that hangs from a tree.

>>32592868
>hurr durr the manga isn't dark

Because falling into a hole of sharp rocks and literally getting impaled to death with your one true love isn't dark.

Fucking nazis man.

>>32593291
>extremely light-hearted games
Are they, though? Human extinction is sort of a running theme in Pokemon. The very first games feature a random NPCs thirsty for your blood, and a Marowak that was beaten to dead, and its orphan Cubone. And it wasn't just the very first games. It's still the same. You see Pokemon frozen alive, made part of a collection. Pokemon like Toxapex are said to "leave a trail of Corsola bits scattered in its wake". Imagine that. Dead corpses of Pokemon, with eyeballs and guts splattered everywhere. That's the image they're painting.

>>32592967
Maybe the nazi had a starving family back home and had to sign up to help his family live, maybe he isn't an entitled prick who lives in his basement all day

tl;dr
You are in the wrong shoes to judge someone else

>>32592901
pussy pass son

Reminder that Lysandre was legitimately a Nazi and not tumblr's definition of a nazi

>>32593291
It is about the same as it has always been. So yeah, it isn't sharebears-tier like the anime where even physical attacks glow or explode to hide the impact.
>>32593409
I would assume he is talking about how graphical it is. The games rarely visualize or describe such elements in great detail, although they definitely are present.

>>32593412

I'm pretty sure when people say "nazi" they're referring to people that actually hold nazi beliefs.

>>32593420
You don't know what a Nazi is or what their ideology actually was if you think Lysandre was one of them.

>>32593433
No shit, you're responding to an edgelord /pol/tard who is better off ignored.

>>32593252
>They literally made Germany think an entire vague group of people were a scourge of the earth because they assumed some rich people were profiting off the current depression and also they were Jews maybe.
That's the fucking point. Sure the were definitely nazis who were horrible people. But as you said almost the entirety of Germany was converted to nazism. That doesn't mean every German person was a horrible person.

>>32592917

>What happened to hgss team rocket leaders? I forgot.

they went back to civilian life or were arrested after the radio tower incident

>>32592914
You're implying Bill knows how to heal her from potent toxins from an organism he has never seen out head of before that come from a different dimension

I'm not saying she is a vegetable, but she's got to be pretty fucked up considering what happens when you're just IN ultra space, let alone fuse with an UB in ultra space

>>32593460
>That doesn't mean every German person was a horrible person.
This sums it up quite well. It's ignorant as fuck to condemn anyone with beliefs that sound nazi-ish as "evil".

>>32594329
Meant for
>>32592926

>>32592848

Blood is still Fucking Blood and not Rated E fucker

No current media aimed for kids will include blood like that

So it's considered dark

>>32592810
He died? XY's plot was such a mess I didn't even notice.

>>32592914
>becoming a vegetable for the rest of her life
You know that won't happen. Even in the end of Sun and Moon Lillie tells you she got back her ability to speak and even asked her daughter if she could join the party after the league.

>>32592860
hold the hell on, bucko

*cuts self twice (on both arms)*
*unsheathes le dual blood katanas*

heh.... you're move....

>>32592852
turn down for what hopebiscuit

>>32592833
I don't see the Nazi connection with him or team Flare. Sure he believed people were "filth" but it was more social/economic rather than racial. We've had a lot of villains in fiction who have that "humans are the problem" mentality, but I've never heard them being compared to Hitler.

>ITT: a neonazi Millennial gets mad at everyone else for knowing their fucking history
>it's also a topic about Lysandre, but who cares about that shit?

>>32592913
yeah, looks like malva is dead in the manga
she definitely isn't dead in the games

>>32594359
>Rated E
Speaking about Esrb, how pokémon sun and moon were rated E ??
Seriously a lot of the games content are pretty child unfriendly.
Heck read the type:null creation process with that music in the aether basement fucking scares me.

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If anyone here saw this movie, did you believe this guy was similar to Lysandre?
>Believed that humans were the main cause of most problems in the world, especially crime, violence and overpopulation

>Believed that the only solution was to cull 80-90% of the population

>Wanted to preserve the social and wealthy elite for vague reasons

Literally black Lysandre.

>>32592901
She's in a damn coma. How do you exact justice on someone in a coma. I guess you could just shoot her while she lies in her bed, but it's generally pretty hard to justify murdering someone who's completely defenseless.

>>32594581
Wait...was Lusamine really in a coma? IIRC from my first playthrough, Lillie tells us that she was weak and that was why she couldn't attend the festival at the end. Lillie also mentioned how she tried to explain to her mom how her actions were bad.

>>32594581
Why do people get this detail wrong, like some Mandela effect shit? She's even speaking at the end of the encounter. She's just ill and possibly heading toward further health complications, but she's not a vegetable.

>>32594535
>for vague reasons
because he happened to belong to that group

>>32592810
Why the fuck do fujos and tumblrinas worship him so fucking much? I guarantee you they only like Lysandre because he has a dick.

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>>32594623
girls really like villians
even if they're uglier than sin, girls love fictional bad boys

>>32594631
Tru Dat.

>>32594623

Why the fuck do waifufags worship Lusamine so fucking much? I guarantee you they only like Lusamine because she has a vagina.

>>32594693
>implying i like lusamine
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nice bait, faggot. You'd have to be a complete retard to like her.

>ITT: people that consume Rating E media only

>>32592810
Fuck no. I wanted to side with him, but this is Pokémon, so no SMT II Law ending.

>>32594623
> I guarantee you they only like Lusamine because she has a vxxxxx.

>>32594903
>"They"
> Responses personally

>>32592967
>nazi
Define nazi.

>>32592917
giovanni vanished and probably retired, evading the authorities entirely

>>32594344
What a bunch of fucking assholes in here. If anyone has even a slight nazi-ish belief, they're obviously racists and therefore bad people. How can you assholes be this retarded defending those racist fuckers?

>>32595708
>vxxxxx
This has to be bait.

I'd necrofuck the shit out of Malva

>>32592810
Not really, Lusamine and Ghetsis deserved it more, but the guy had the worst friend ever who enabled him to think that killing all french people would have done something. If Sycamore had spoken up about this shit he might have been able to save Lysandre before activating the weapon, but who cares in the studios about a happy ending in Pokemon that doesn't involve the power of friendship, right?

>>32595020
>SMT II Law ending
Sounds more like the Elijah ending in Fallout New Vegas, where you side with the genocidal old man and kill fucking everyone with a gas cloud and holograms.

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>>32595708
Never figured lusamine to be the type to use a VX.

>>32592810
Did the fire elite4 girl die too?

>>32595883
Best ending fuck the NCR.

>>32592833
The worst thing about the holocaust was that it gave National Socialists such a bad name.

Why is it that when Islamic suicide bombers kill themselves in the name of their false god, they're sympathized with, but National Socialists are demonized just for existing?

>>32592852
>>32592935
>>32593264
retards

>>32592967
I say that you are a Nazi

>>32594344
>German
>something you're born as

vs.

>Nazi
>A belief system you willingly choose to espouse

Jesus Christ, people, this is logic 101.

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Cyrus

>>32594535
Well 99% of crime is committed by humans. The other 1% is those damn raccoons.

>>32595737
He jumped into that waterfall after he loses to you in hgss doesnt he?