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>Mew has 100 stats across the board and a VERY situational

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>Mew has 100 stats across the board and a VERY situational ability
>is OU
>Silvally has 5 point less in all its stats and has an ability that changes its type
>is RU

Seriously, what has happened here? Both have good movepools, stats are almost the same, Silvally does a better job as attacker.
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>>32544087
>Silvally
>good movepool
It gets Parting Shot. That's it.
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>>32544087
>stuck as normal type if you want to use good item
>useless ability doesn't have stats to back it up
>only thing good about it is parting shot
>Chinese bootleg arceus
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>>32544087
A lot of things happened.

First off, its movepool isn't that great. It's okay, but doesnt fit it's wanted roles very well. It's missing key filling moves like Extremespeed, good physical coverage, Recover, etc..

Secondly, losing 5 points in every stat might sound like a slight downgrade, but its a huge one, particularly for Speed. Speed is not a linear growth in terms of usefulness. If you have 200 Speed, that's effectively the same as 170. Likewise, that's why 100 is considered the baseline for "fast" Pokemon, but something like Venusaur which is meant as a Tank is considered fast with 80. It's highly relative, and having 95 as opposed to 100 is extremely detrimental. Even having 99 would be cock teasing. See: Hydreigon.

Lastly, its ability ends up being somewhat moot. Yeah it can change its type, at the complete loss of an item slot. If Memories worked like Arceus' plates, and gave a boost+Z move usage, then it'd be much more usable, but as is you can choose to have a more interesting type or actually use a useful item... or just use a better pokemon of the desired type.

It's really just incomplete in many ways.
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>>32544087
Are you delusional? Silvallys movepool is garbage and the Ability is too limiting to really be useful. It should be able to change typing with Plates and be a proper mini Arceus.

>no extremespeed
>no recover

Such a shame. It's one of my favorite Alola Pokemon.
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The worst thing about being normal type is the shit STAB. Their only weakness is non existent in this meta
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>>32544087
>Both have good movepools
Fuck son, you be more wrong. Silvally has a pretty good offensive movepool, but doesn't have the stats to back it up. Mew has an incredible movepool.
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>>32544087
Mew has an insane movepool and can hold an item that does something/actually has an ability. Silvally has an okay movepool, cucked speed and either effectively has no item or has no ability, your choice.
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Silvally has a better ass than mew, that's about it
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>>32544087
The -5 points, on top of being a much weaker Arceus in literally every regard is why Silvally sucks. It's just an attacker with no stats above 95, while Mew is defensive/utility with 100/100/100 bulk.
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>>32545216
Silvally is defensive utility with 95/95/95 bulk, at least that's the meta with it. The only issue is that its only move is parting shot.
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>>32545222
>defensive utility
>no recovery
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>>32544087
At this point, it may not even be RU. Looking more to be NU.
Also Silvally just needs a larger movepool, such as Extremespeed and be compatable with plates and z-crystals like how Arceus is. This way it could actually be Babby Arceus.
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>>32545175
stfu Mew has a cute little pink butt
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>>32544087
>you can combine drives to make silvally dual typed
>multi attack becomes dual type
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>>32544087
Mew shits all over Silvally when it comes to movepool, and the 5 extra points (15 in total) actually does lot in terms of defensive utility

It also doesn't have to give up its item slot to have any sort of type resist
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>>32545222
Except there's another Normal type with 95/95/95 bulk, an identical movepool, access to Eviolite, and an actual ability.
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>>32544104
This. Even if it did get good moves, you'd still be stuck choosing between a normal type with a good item but effectively no ability or a Pokemon with a type of your choosing, but it can't hold anything. If RKS System was an item that let you program your Silvally to be whatever type you wanted, and it had adaptability or something instead, it'd be a lot more usable.
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>>32544087
Silvally now has 101 in each stat, Memories provide a STAB boost and RKS System works with Z-Crystals. Does it become slightly better?
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>>32544106
>It's really just incomplete in many ways.

Makes sense when you think about it. Type:Null is a bastardized experiment, and there are no lab reports in-game about it ever evolving.
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>Sylvelly will never be able to change type with Z-Crystals instead
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>>32545352
mew's butt is tiny!
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>>32544087
>Both have good movepools,

o i am laffin
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>>32545797
>Slighty
Are you retarded?
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>>32544104
This yeah.
I wish the Memory were like the plates and boosted the attacks...
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>>32545222
>Only recovery is Rest
>No Taunt
>No Knock Off
>No Willow Wisp
>Still not as bulky as Mew or its own Pre-Evolution after eviolite
Literally why?
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>>32544087
>Silvally does a better job as attacker.

does it though? It's slower, weaker, and its movepool is shit.
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>>32545787
I like this and it seems obvious too. What happened?
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>>32544106
>It's really just incomplete in many ways.

Tbh like most things this gen tho
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>>32544087

Type: lol > Silvally
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>>32544087
Should have had an ability that resets stat changes on entry. Given that it was literally created for the sole purpose of fighting things with Beast Boost.
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>>32546796
Would be quickbanned to Ubers within a week.
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>>32546126
Type: lol dropped to NU
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>>32544087
>Its stats are now 90/90/90/90/90/120
>Drives now boost its STAB like plates and Z-crystals change its type
>Gets recover and extreme speed
Is it good yet?
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>>32546903
>Type: Null is NU
>Memeshoos and Faticate are still RU
What did smogon mean by this?
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>>32546903
>>32546919
There aren't any usage stats to form NU yet, stop shitposting
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>>32544087
Lack of reliable recovery. That's literally it. A lot of people seem to underestimate the impact that reliable recovery has on a Pokemon. You talk about attacking but Mew is practically never used as an attacker: it runs defensive sets and it has Soft-Boiled for that, which Mew gets all the way from Gen III. If Mew didn't have recovery, you'd never see it in OU. If Silvally got Recover it would be solid UU, while Eviolite Type: Null with Recover would be solid OU as it would essentially be a better Porygon2 and one of the absolute best defensive Pokemon out there.

Not really on the topic of Mew vs Silvally anymore, but reliable recovery would bump A LOT of defensive Pokemon up a tier or even two. It's one of those things that makes or breaks a Pokemon.
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Give me a SINGLE reason why they introduced memories when Z moves could have done the same fucking thing, as well as giving it a slight buff.
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>>32547335
>>32547335
To better mirror Arceus.

Next question.
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