>first Dark-type """Gym Leader"""

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>>32531417

Don't care, honestly. The content isn't changing, just the label it's presented with.

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>>32531425
>Type: Null/Silvally is on there
>Top Kek
>Top Lel
Fake and gay files.

>>32531417
Ultra Beasts are kind of "lite" Legendaries because their stat pool favors min-maxing.

>>32531443
>files taken directly from the game are fake and gay
epic

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>>32531458
If you expect me to believe GF called the Tapu's Top Kek, Top lel, and Top bull, you're full of shit.
Especially since there's plenty of characters for the other legendaries. Good bait though, sure to make retards believe anything you say.

>>32531484
What's to say that the hexcodes didn't come from the games and that the names were manually typed up by SciresM after he found them and put them in a list?

>>32531499
Sure, and I'm the fucking pope. Just stop posting your bait, and actually add something to the thread.

>>32531499
This.
Also, I don't understand why lately there's this attention about the legendary/mythical/whatever shit.
The name changes but the substance it's almost the same.

>>32531417
Honestly I am a bit pedantic, sorry, so I'll wait for the Dark-type 'Gym Leader' before I acknowledge the type having one rep in the lower rank (not E4). Don't worry, I've been waiting all this time, I can wait for another few more years.

>>32531484
They names were typed in by SciresM image is legit, it's on his twitter somewhere.

>>32531484
Those names weren't the actual the code, only the addresses were. The names were written in by the dataminer so it would be easier to read.

>>32531540
>>32531541
Alright, I'll retract my statement then since more people can attest to his image.
Still, UB's aren't legendaries, not in the normal sense anyway. I mean, they feel way too different.

>>32531526
Edgy

>>32531514
>implying that i have more than two posts on this thread as of this one, disregarding the fact that i had to repost this because i accidentally (you)'s myself instead of you

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the next games keep the coloured dex screens for legendaries/mythicals and sublegendaries, and include the National Dex to compare them all.

>>32531417
> dark gym leader is white

Missed opportunity

>>32531484
SciresM literally stated in an older thread that he just labeled them for convenience. Of course they aren't called Top Kek and Lel you fucking retard.

Those hex codes grouped under that label are ripped right from the game. UBs ARE legendaries

>>32531515
Mythical: event-exclusive legendary, banned in battle facilities, yellow background
Legendary: your average legendary, banned in battle facilities, yellow background
Sublegendary: a technical term, they are the complete same as legendaries except for being allowed in battle facilities and having a green background

Those are the only differences they really have.

>>32531417
>nanu
Meh, I can deal with that. Plus Nanu was great.
>nihilengo
Well, I have issues with the fact ubs work as legendaries in the game but really aren't, but that'd be off topic. They aren't called legendaries so we don't have a poison one yet which is something i'd like but I feel gf regrets making that type.

>>32531515
Because the concept of ubs and alolan forms make people question how pokemom are classified. At least with ubs its not because retards unlearning what we knew for 20 years so there's that.

>>32531555
They are as much legendaries as manaphy is.
There is no point in overcomplicating things, we have enough evidence tip the scale to the legandary side even a little. That's good enough to fall in the legendary category, it's a useful broad term.

>>32531417
Not at all surprised. GF seems to have some weird rules about Dark-Type trainers in leadership positions and Poison-Type pokemon being prominent legends.

Whatever, I thought Nanu was fine. Pretty effective way to convey a "good guy" that specializes in a type associated with underhanded tactics and """"evil."""" I hope we get more Dark-Type specialists who aren't only parts of an Elite Four. Until Nanu, that's all we got. Dark-Type Rudo Luchador gym leader when? Seems like a perfect fit, tbqh famalam.


As a poisonfag the legendary situation is bittersweet since I dont use legendary pokemon in-game unless forced to. Still would be nice to get one true poison legendary.

>>32531572
>wanting 24 years and counting of "le racist jokes xd"

One of the most sjw shows ever has to deal with that, dont let pokemon suffer too.

>>32531417
>being a poison-fag is suffering
We're used to getting jack-shit from GF

Where did the whole "ultra beasts aren't legendary pokémon" meme start? They're no different than other sublegendary groups.

>>32531613
The best way to classify pokemon is the way the game code does, because it's always the simplest and easiest on the brain. There are times where sub categories are needed, this isn't one.

>>32531642
They are lore wise.

>>32531647
I'm not saying its wrong to use the game classifications, I was just answering the anon's question.

>>32531642
Literal autists taking things literally.

The name is a technicality. People are sperging out because there are multiple of each UB.
>muh legen dairy poket monster can only be muh unqiue bro, bruh!
Despite the fact that has never been the case. Gen IV showed Arceus create a new Dialga/Palkia/Giritina. Legends, unless specified, aren't one of a kind.

UBs are sublegendary pokemon like others in the franchise before them.

>>32531649
Aren't*

>>32531642
Autism
The more years and games go by the more complicated things are going to be, at least GF will clear everything next game. They are aware of the mess that will happen if they don't control things.

>>32531663
Not being angry man, just furthering conversation, you aren't the only person that will read a post.

>>32531673
Except ubs are normal pokémon from the ub dimension. Significantly different lore wise than previous legendaries who, even if there's more than an instance of a single species, they're all special things.

>>32531633
>What is Gen I
Just over half of all poison types are from Gen I, if you're counting the mega evolutions as outside of Gen I.

>>32531683
What mess? People who can't read making up issues is a mess now? Because that has been a thing in this franchise since day 1.

>>32531673
Going through Bulbapedia's classifications on what makes a Pokemon legendary or a character in the anime dead makes my head hurt.

>>32531694
>normal pokémon
Not really.

If they're from another dimension then they aren't pokemon at all. Hence why they're called Ultra Beasts in the first place.

>>32531709
They aren't normal from the main universe(s)'s pov, but you see in ultra space nihilengo is common.
Legendaries are all special regardless of their dimension. Like, giratina also has its own dimension but you don't see multiple giratinas there.

>>32531727
'Normal' wasn't the argument there but your about multiple of them ties back to the original point that people are hesitant to call them legendary because they are plentiful elsewhere.

There has never been a real, canon explanation to what makes a legendary pokemon a legend other than an arbitrary "boardroom" choice.

>>32531727
What about Mewtwo or Genesect.
Stressing about lore two much is plain stupid, especialy if it leads to the point where we question if a pokemon is even a pokemon at all.

>>32531709
I think Burnet called them Pokemon before she called them Ultra Beasts during her conversation in Akala.

>>32531749
>'Normal' wasn't the argument there but your about multiple of them ties back to the original point that people are hesitant to call them legendary because they are plentiful elsewhere.
Which is a big deal if you consider why there are multiple in this case as opposed to why there are multiple.of previous legendaries.

>There has never been a real, canon explanation to what makes a legendary pokemon a legend other than an arbitrary "boardroom" choice.
Yes, which is why I dont think its wrong to call them sub legends as they're coded that way. But that's not lore.

>>32531558
Lol what. Whatever, anon.

>>32531764
Man made special things.....which doesnt contradict what I said at all.

>>32531766
She did. However, that was before Looker and the cast of "Ultra Beasts and Where To Find Them" showed up to make a small post game adventure for the protag.

>>32531771
>sub legends
hold on, anon. have we been arguing about that? I totally agree with the sub legend label. Sub legend is *still* legend though.

Can they just drop Megas and UB's? It's gonna be hard to backpedal if they keep on piling bullshits.

Z-Moves can stay but only in its own region and not go widespread like Megas did.

>>32531776
My point is that there's a difference lore wise, but the sub legend and legend label are ok because of the coding.

>>32531782
>ubs
They started with 151 pokemon amd now there's 802. I'd say they can handle 7 pokemon fine.

>megas
More gimmicky but more worth keeping than dialga and palkia's orbs, eevee's gen 4 evo methods and so on, there's plenty of artifacts to get rid of. Dont see how megas are an issue in this context.

>>32531844
I share that opinion, whatever is best for the brain.
I'm sure the UBs will become just regular legendaries or whatever next gen.

>>32531417
what happens when a bug and a fighting gym leader battles against a dark type ""gym leader""?

I liked it when Dark was reserved for the E4. It made the type feel special.

>>32531425
>Rock Bull, Steel Kudu and Grass Gerenuk are sub-legends
>Water /mlp/ is not
Why?

>>32531902
Because it's Mythical, not sub-legendary.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mythical_Pokemon

>>32531915
Yes, but why?

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>>32531902
It's a mythical legendary

>>32531919
event-exclusive

>>32531919
Because they felt like making it not obtainable in-game?
I don't think there are really any thematic reasons most mythical Pokémon are mythical. I think they're meant to be so rare that most people don't think they even exist, while other legendaries are rare enough that most people have never seen it, but it's seen enough that it's considered fact.
Or something like that.

>>32531484
The names were added by SciresM.
Obviously the image would have been better if it was just the real names and instead of him thinking it would be funny to label some with stale memes.

>>32531782
This. I wish everything was more streamlined and to the point. It's a massive clusterfuck at this point. Speaking of points, I think GF may have tried to make a point or some shitty statement when they invented UBs to make us question what makes a Pokemon a Pokemon, or not. Could be that or some weird technical thing where they're only """kinda""" seen as Pokemon but "not really" so the dex doesn't reach 1000 too soon or whatever. The scrapped concept thing about some Alolans secretly being UBs may have been a thing at some point too.

GF really fucking needs to implement things better or streamline their ideas if the franchise ever gets a reboot.