What was /vp/ like when this game just came out? As harsh and

>>32492864
These games were appraised nonstop, then after a month everyone hated them. Same with every mainline Pokemon release.

Before the games came out, there really wasn't that much hype--people fucking hated the Kyurem formes and we didn't know all the awesome shit the game had in it yet

I actually think it took a while for people to realize how awesome BW2 are

>>32493018
B2W2 seem to be shat on less than other games on /vp/. At the very least, they're the most respected ones here out of the 2010s releases.

>>32493018
Outside of /vp/, this games aren't considered awesome

>>32492864
/vp/, as a whole, was in a much better state than now.

Other than that, we really expected a lot of different things for the game. Initial speculation was if there would be entirely new Pokemon for it. While many were disappointed that Cactowl was fake, myself included, the fact that there would be more variety of Pokemon was of great comfort. The only "new" Pokemon were the Kyreum forms, and people generally liked them. There was a lot of artwork of the imagined "original dragon" spreading around.

As for the new characters, new Bianca was received well mostly because of her glasses. Those glasses and Charon's lack of them really gave fuel for the shippers. I still think BW Bianca is better. Anyway, both Marlon and Roxie were liked and there was a lot of fanart for both of them. The PCs and Hugh were generally disliked at first, but we got used to them. Especially Rosa's donut hair. Plasma's new look was very well received too.

Pokestar studios was liked for being new. People hated it at first when the game came out because of the section where it was mandatory to do it, but we loved it eventually. There was a lot of fanart for the costumes. But /vp/ went batfuck insane when word of the PWT came out. I mean, holy fuck, we were absolutely rabid for the game to be released. It was definitely one of the things we loved unanimously. No one really minded that the Subway was back since PWT came with it.

We had hopes that BW2 would ditch the linearity, but we knew that wouldn't happen. Still, the new locations looked interesting. Reversal Mountain's reveal lead to a dumb meme, Lentimas became Poke-Mexico, and people like Marlon and Roxie's cities. The fact that Unova's map was iced over led to the idea that there was a Battle Frontier somewhere. Some things never change.

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I remember that people were pretty shocked that it wasn't RS remakes or Grey and there was a quick wave of hype because many thought we were going to have new mons. It was the birth of the x.5 gen meme and we had that adorable cactus owl fake that was quite popular. Then when promotion began the hype died down mainly because Kyurem forms sucked and everyone thought we were going to have fusions. The main thing was that BW2 came out in japan only few months after the original announce (something like january - june 2012) so there were not months and months of waiting and shitposting. After the jap rom was mined everyone was pretty hyped for the incredible amount of content (and because at the time the DA was hackable as fuck so everyone could play it, not like the 3DS) and the hype kept mounting until western release. The animated trailer especially was greeted as the second coming of christ. Then the discussion faded really quickly because they announced XY like 2 months after the western release of BW2 so people got on the hype train again and there wasn't time for the usual vp cycle with a new game (it's announced it's gonna be awesome it comes out it's really good three months in everyone say it sucks) and that's probably why vp has such a fond memory of it.

>>32493301
People were hyped as hell when the promo animation came out. Rosa was as cute as a button, Hugh was hilarious with his rage, Nate looked competent, and Neo-Plasma was an actual threat. I remember I downloaded a copy of the animation with a text file of its translations from /vp/.

We were hyped for hard mode until we found out how to unlock it. People were pretty mixed with Iris being the champ, but some of us liked her new design. I know I do. Memory Link was well received for answering some questions and fueling the shippers. There was the expectation that we would fight our old character from BW. People were sad when they found out the old PCs had not visited their mother in the two years in between. The story was pretty dull, but all the extra stuff that we got was loved. /vp/ has always been more focused on post game over everything else, and BW2 was full of it. We loved the games, and we had high hopes for Game Freak after they released.

We were very naive.

>>32492864
They were the topic up until the XY reveals and there wasn't as much shitposting towards the games.

>>32493218

[citation needed]

/vp/ didn't even exist. this board is like 3 years old

>>32493218
Outside of /vp/, people only care about genwun pandering. Only generation to not pander to Gen 1 = most hated generation in the series, despite Gen 6 being objectively worse by FAR.

I was 15 and it was the first game in years that I had stayed up playing until 3 am, it was great

>>32493350
Go ahead

>>32492864
BW2 was a completely different case. There weren't enough expectations for it. It was in the same region again, now a sequel with some retarded fusion thing, and especially since it wasn't on 3DS, so people generally had low expectations and were somewhat underwhelmed and disappointed with it.
So when it came out, instead of the usual per-release love > love > hate the games get, it had per-release disappointment > love > love.

Also fuck you, SM is great. The best start any Generation has had. You're the one who needs some "disillusionment" if you think otherwise.

D

The time between BW and BW2 was my favorite time on here. Up until XY's release it was still super comfy with the Magnemite generals and shit but after that it became a bit shit.

>>32493415
Most people were actually really glad that Gray still came out on the DS since absolutely no one had a 3DS at that point yet.
I remember most of the board actively hating the 3DS because it was too expensive at the time and had like two games.

>>32493719
Is that so? I wasn't on /vp/ at the time, so my post was just predictions based on how it was received elsewhere and what /vp/ thinks of BW2 now. I did visit a few times during the "hype" season, and saw the relative lack of hype, especially compared to BW hype, so didn't waste my time here.

On other boards and sites, though, I saw many questioning the choice of not making BW2 a 3DS game. There were a lot who were even considering to buy 3DS for the next Pokemon game, and a lot who had already done so in advanced.

>>32493709
>>32493301
>>32493319
Gen 5 in general was a great time to be on this board.

GF did so many things no one expected. Some loved it, some hated it. Hype and speculation were the highest I've ever seen on this board. All the speculation/wishlist threads eventually turned into fangame ideas, and that's how we got Sage, PokeAus, etc. Ethereal Gates and Uranium also got started around this time.

Well, unlike the other four games that /vp/ was around for the hype cycle of, BW2 was actually a good game, so it was mostly liked.

There were a ton of team threads and 99% of them had some combination of Arcanine, Ampharos, and Lucario on them.

>>32493218
People still beleive this?

>>32492864
The board started between HGSS and BW, where the hype from both games made us too big for /v/. So take a guess

>>32493415
>The best start any Generation has had.
both GS and BW are better.

>>32493319
This is such a sad thing to read. I'm sad I only came here after ORAS was revealed but before it came out

>>32494233
It was a time full of optimism and people genuinely believed that Game Freak was doing good with the series. It was acknowledged that they sometimes took two steps forward and one back, but overall, they weren't fucking it up. I don't remember seeing as many "what went wrong?" type of threads back in those days.

I feel like /vp/'s loss of innocence actually started around the time megas were released, specifically Mega Mewtwo. It's apt that moot renamed the board "/vp/ - CHILDHOOD RUINED" on that day. Someone should have a picture of that. There were some ideas that it was actually a Mewtwo clone created and introduced to Kalos by Flare. There was a lot of high hopes for Team Flare.

The change to 3D was welcomed, the introduction of fairy type was eventually accepted, but megas are what really polarized the board. That's how I see it, anyway.

>>32494375
I'd love to see that honestly.

>>32494375
That's what I don't understand. XY are pretty shitty games but Megas were an awesome mechanic.

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>>32494375
Yeah that's actually a pretty good mark on where it started to go downhill not only for the series but also for /vp/.

>>32494414
The thread had a lot more replies in the end.

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>>32494213
>People still believe this?
It doesn't matter how many times /vp/ repeat the same lie, gen 5 was the worst generation and any copy-paste battle tower at the post game will make me think otherwise

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Seems like moot was also hyped for gen VI.
Man going through my old screencaps folder brings back so many memories.

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It's been 5 years but I can finally gold this against you now Samule Mansone

>>32494375
The main reason people were hopeful for Flare was people thought we were finally get another Team Rocket instead of a save the world plot, because the site said "Do they only care about money?" or something like that.

Personally my opinions haven't really changed at all over the years. First duos of a generation have always been weak to me, and I've always had a sense for Game Freak's intentions with things. ORAS was a dissapointment and SM is my least favorite entry in the series, but I blame Ohmura specifically for those, like Kumazaki for recent Kirby games.

>>32494600
Eh more often than not:

>lets fug up the power creep to insane levels
>lets give megas to more popular mons who don't need them instead of the ones who do

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>>32494677
>me
>like anybody cares about what some poster on veepee thinks

>>32494731
Fuck, not Ohmura, Ohmori. And I get on other people's cases about that.

>>32494636
>RIGHT IN THE CHILDHOOD
I knew it was something childhood related. Oddly enough, I remember where I was on that day. I also remember that my response was a simple and disappointed "oh."

>>32494803
I was actually watching Pokemon Smash live with /vp/ while it was happening.
The entire fucking board exploded when that came up.

>>32494831
I was getting my taxes done and keeping an eye on /vp/ on my phone. I mostly just saw the aftermath, and I remember that it was not pretty.

>>32494375
I agree, Megas were the main thing that disillusioned a lot of people (myself included). That and the small gen 6 dex. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

XY felt incomplete and poorly thought out. Then the highly anticipated ORAS comes out and fails to live up to expectations. Without a third version/sequels to make up for that, Gen 6 left a bitter taste in everyone's mouth. SM continuing the trends of those games really cemented the general pessimism on this board.

>>32494890
SM unironically wants to make me neck myself. Last year fucking sucked and those things were my last grasp of hope because the prerelease period had insane levels of hype.

>>32494636
>>32494696
Huh, someone actually saved it. Saved

>>32494677
>me
Well alright. You dont have to think otherwise at all

>>32494748
>This conversation is pointless
You just realize that all of a sudden ?

>>32494890
Indeed, XY feels incomplete and looking at how Zygarde was "finished" in SM it is just such a sad mess to look at

The complete form being only an in-battle form is lame af and there is nothing that justifies such a poor gimmick

It's dreadful that Kalos had so much more potential and it was all rushed baka

>>32494742
This was a large reason as to why I started to expect disappointment from GF. XY's nostalgia-driven choices for megas was bad enough, but ORAS giving megas to shit like Salamence and Rayquaza was just too much for me to still expect good things.
As soon as SM's regional variants were released and they continued to show only Kanto Pokemon with them, I expected it to be Kanto-only and only maybe one or two extra lines apart from what was already revealed, and they were.

>>32492864
Jap release was crazy as all jap releases before then were, rom begging and general threads for progress and what not were standard.
>>32492968
I bet $10 this guy wasn't on /vp/ then

banning porn killed /vp/
it was a great underage/normie filter

>>32494636
I remember there was so much debate about what the fuck it was, since we didn't know mega evolution was a thing yet.