>Incineroar is a barabait >is hated by the fanbase >Buzzwole

>>32472654
Owlfags who are mad because Incineroar is Charizard's Gen 7 rival instead of the bird. They have no reason to hate Basedwole.

>>32472654
owl"bros"

Incineroar looks like a furry OC but buzzwole doesn't

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>>32472654
I want Buzzwole to take me to his place.

>>32472654
Incineroar is hated because it's a barabait wrestling starter. Most people didn't want another Fire Type bipedal fighter starter.

>>32472654
Because Buzzwole doesn't even have half the same retards that shill it like Baracat.

>>32472654
1- Incineroar is a starter
2- like Fennekin and Tepig before it, it's base form was a quadruple, so people expected it to be the first quadruple fire starter after 20 years of bipedal
3- owlfags
4- Buzzwole has better proportions
5- Any hint of anything being shilled makes it hated

>>32472670
>Being this delusional
Incineroar only appeals to furries and hasn't got quite the etiquette of a Charizard

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>>32472654
Buzzwole is well drawn and achieves what it's supposed to be, while Incineroar is a complete mess.

Funny enough, Buzzwole was made by James Turner, Game Freak should learn a tip or two from him.

>>32472654
Cause Incineroar is a disgusting furbait.

>>32472654
Because everyone loved Litten and it turned into a muscular furry cat.
Buzzwole looks like a JoJo stand. And everyone likes JoJo.

>>32472702
Not that retard (it's obvious that none of the starters are shilled this time) but you're projecting quite a bit. By your definition kids that picked and liked Incineroar and people that hated it but after using it began to like it are furries aswell.

>>32472702
The favorite starter always gets a chance at fighting Charizard. See Blaziken and Greninja.

>>32472720
>None of the starters are shilled
>Incineroar in M20
>Litten getting a backstory in SM

>>32472704
wtf I love James Turner now!

>>32472673

this

Buzzwole strikes me off more like a hilarious spin of a buff mosquito that somehow turns out to be cute as well. I can easily picture it going Johnny Bravo on the ladies. Not a pokemon I'd envision having, but he's cool. Then again, he's a UB.

Incineroar looks more like it's trying too hard to look cool, which kind of falls flat for me and can't help seeing it as anything but annoying.

>>32472673
That literally lycanroc night

Buzzwole isn't yet another humanoid Fire type fighting theme starter.

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>>32472968
day is pretty much too.
both of them are

>>32472885

All of Ash's Fire starters save for Cyndaquil got a backstory.

>>32472976
No just night. Push that meme as hard as you can we all know it's just night.

>>32472976
Day just looks like a wolf, you autist.

>>32472654
You're confusing the fanbase with a handful of people.

>>32472976
>one is just a regular wolf
>the other a literal furry thinks was based on him

>>32472965
But isn't that what Incineroar is supposed to be? It puts off the facade as a heel wrestler but actually enjoys being praised and fun

>>32473052
Pretty much yeah.

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>>32473052
Yeah. Most of it's official art also shows it putting on this facade of trying to look as cool and evil as possible like that one dream world artwork that was used in one of the channels videos where it had its arms crossed or this full version of its shuffle artwork. There was also this one artwork in a magazine where it does its approval pose in refresh, but I can't find it anymore.

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>>32472654
Personally, a "barabait" doesn't mean anything to me. I like Buzzwole. Its muscles look good. The small lower half, with big upper half is done a lot better with Buzzwole. Its 4 legs are still relatively large and have well defined muscles. It looks like it can stand. The wings add mobility. It works in my mind. Plus it reminds me of JoJo, and that's a huge positive.

Incineroar, on the other hand, has none of this. Its not muscly. It's balloony. Its arms and torso are just puffed up like a balloon, with no sign of muscles or bones. Then there's the fucked up proportions. I could go all day about the arms, the fingers, palm and wrist, but even the legs are shit. They're thin as stick. There's still not muscles or bones there. They're almost like rubber, bending almost randomly and freely. There's just zero detail.The feet/paw also lack detail, and make it look like Incineroar can barely stand, let alone move.

To me, they're not even remotely the same. I love the former, and I don't hate the latter. I have used Incineroar and it was still fun. But I don't like like it, and I don't think I can like it.

>>32473097
This.
Buzzwole gives a gritty feeling. Like some tight muscles. You can feel the muscles. Incineroar doesn't have that.

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>>32472704
>designed buzzwole
You know, this guy's not to ba-
>also designed guzzlord

>>32473689
Guzzlord's an even better design than Buzzwole you pleb.

>>32473689
And Vanilluxe line. He's kind of a hit or miss. His style of Pokemon is a bit different from the normal one. It's more eccentric, so he's a real hit or miss. Luckily for him, UBs are supposed to be eccentric and different.

>>32472976
there's so much wrong with that art i don't know where to begin. it's almost like phatmon was the artist.

>>32473689
Guzzlord is a good design imo, just a shame it gets overshadowed by a lot of other mons.

>>32473708
>Luckily for him, UB's are supposed to be eccentric and different
I bet he enjoyed designing them a lot.

Also Vanilluxe is a great design

>>32473718
>Also Vanilluxe is a great design
First, there's shit taste, which has people liking shit like the Vullaby and Pignite. Then there's lack of a taste altogether, which is what you suffer from. No matter how much of a contrarian you are, who will like whatever shit is there simply to feel special and unique, liking Vanilluxe is too fucking much.

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>>32472968
Why you dragging the dog into this?

>>32473757
>being so insecure in your own opinions you have to shit on others

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>>32473718
I dunno man it looks like someone tried to make an oc for a nightmare before christmas. The two pairs of arms and the tiny wings plus the little lagann ass head make it feel cluttered.
Only part I really like are some of the animations he does in amie and the fact he's a good tank.

>>32473777
It's a clusterfuck, nothing more. The faggots who like it are the faggots who like Probopass.

>>32473097

It's kinda hard for me to describe Incineroar's anatomy so I've grown used to treating him with the Stretch Armstrong syndrome. Rubber-y arms and legs, human-like anatomy more than animal (there's a term for this, digitigrade?), yet has this odd muscle tone in its chest, by far the only muscle tone he has. Hands are massively large, but in a cartoonier way. Feels like you could pluck his fingers and they'd act like rubber as well.