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So how does /vp/ feel about Pokemon Sun/Moon 2 being a New

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So how does /vp/ feel about Pokemon Sun/Moon 2 being a New 3DS/2DS exclusive?
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>>32417725
Looks like a deformed DSi XL.
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>>32417725
Fairly indifferent since I already have an N3DSXL, not like SM2 is ever coming out
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>>32417725
where are the speakers
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>>32417744
>implying anyone leaves sound on when they play 3DS games.
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>>32417744
Those two dots in the middle I assume
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Legit question, why did they make this? How is this any different from the N3DSXL aside from no 3D?
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>>32417750
Where's the home button?
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>>32417750
it's under the dpad are you blind
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>>32417756
Under the D-pad
Come on anon, it's pretty easy to notice
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>>32417763
Allow me anon
>>32417756
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>>32417755
It's pretty much so they can meet a more appealing price point for audiences that still don't have something from the 3DS family.
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>>32417725
Can someone explain to me, if there's a point to this, what that point is?

1. I thought the 2DS was supposed to not have a hinge so kids can't break it.
2. This is released so late in the 3DS line life cycle, what games are in mind for you to play on this?
3. That price point being pushed well past 100 just makes it look less cost-effective compared to buying a used system from someone.

So who the hell is this supposed to be marketed at and why now?
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>>32417770
shut the fuck up retard
we all know you're gonna buy it you fucking fuck
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>>32417770
>This is released so late in the 3DS line life cycle
What makes you think that?
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>>32417755
Because they want the 3DS to keep going until next year at least

If you watched the last direct, they are still releasing a lot of software this year, Pokemon probably included. Give today's announcement I wouldn't be surprised if the latter was indeed a New 2/3DS exclusive.
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>>32417778
That came across more as a spazz-out than meming. There's no reason to buy this.

Why? Do you want it?
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>>32417770
Maybe because they aren't done supporting the 3DS, and won't make any profit from aftermarket transactions like the ones you suggested?
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>>32417755

Slightly different design and 50 buck cheaper. Also got plenty of parents still worried to death about the 3D ruining their kid's eyes so they'll be attracted to it just because they see the 2DS in the name.
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>>32417750
That's weird, they removed the rear camera
the original 3ds needed 2 to make 3d photos, it's weird that this one doesn't have just the one for 2d photos
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>>32417725
I have had my standard N3DS for 2 years already, so I kinda hope they make it N3DS exclusive now that the system itself is cheaper than ever. There's no excuse for the framerate drops we got in SM.
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>>32417750
It's not the two dots in the middle because the one of the right is actually the mic
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>>32417793
Wow, you'd be fucked for QR scanning. That's really bad.
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>>32417770
They made the hinge better, it seems
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>>32417782
The timing seems so counter-intuitive with Pokemon Sun/Moon being released late last year, when most people who would want to buy a 3DS would have already. The same goes for XY and ORAS already having passed, where people bought a 3DS system for those games. And that's just from the Pokemon perspective, there are obviously other brands that compelled people to buy theirs at other times.

What I'm saying is many, many people who would have bought a 3DS line system already have.
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>>32417803
>>32417793
The moved it to the back of the bottom portion

Not sure how many cameras the 2DS had but this one looked equipped to take 3D photos, just not to display them

Any way, this whole thing is just bizarre. I'd buy it if they upped the resolution and just said "going forward, 3DS games will be made for 480p consoles" or something
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>>32417809
Well, I know a guy who wouldn't buy the existing 2ds because it has no hinge, making it less practice to carry around for street passes and such. Of course, he only had interest in the 2ds because he's blind in one eye, so i guess he doesn't represent a significant demographic.
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>>32417790
>and won't make any profit from aftermarket transactions like the ones you suggested?

Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying they just put something new out because they expect people to buy something that's new?
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Delicious
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>>32417836
Do you think they would release this thing if they did not believe it had an audience?
I'm not saying their assumption is right, but they obviously think someone will buy this.
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>>32417826
It looks like the fixed the issue people had with the N3DS where people would accidentally eject the game cart

>>32417850
where did this render come from? the nintendo website only has the blue and black one
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>>32417770
1. I'm pretty sure the main reason was for reduced price and no 3d, but you're not wrong.
2. You say it's late, but I could see them keeping it alive until the end of 2018, so it's kinda like their final version.
3. $150 for a *New* version and that sexy ass design is the reason, anon

I mean you're not wrong, it was far from their best decision to put this out there now, and the change of look from the original 2ds is dramatic...

but you have to admit it's the slickest, sexiest console design in a while.
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>>32417861
creamsicle design is only for japan
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>>32417897
japan doesn't even have the regular 2ds though
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>>32417826
Considering most 3ds games upscale pretty well, I'd consider waiting in line for a 3ds that played in a resolution over 240p. In fact, I don't know why they didn't make that a thing that the normal n3ds did along with the faster processing and all that. They'd have sold out in a trice.
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>>32417904
and now they soon will.

I'm mad tho, I want that one
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>>32417725
Gamefreak would have no benefit from that.
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>>32417860
I think it just looks to be in poor taste and a bit greedy. I was already against the idea of putting the word New in New 3DS because it just felt cheap and hollow to do so.

>>32417888
I hope if anything they release Special Editions or special customization options for it, since that's how I see it standing out over past iterations.
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>>32417768
They could've just lowered the price of the N3DSXL. There's no actual reason for them to have made this when it has so little appeal to it.
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>still has the audio jack at the bottom
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>>32417725
Sorry mate, the want the games to sell
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>>32417946
better than the usb charger when you put it on its stand.

seriously, who the fuck put that there on the switch, that alone makes me not want to buy one
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>>32417915
Upscaling and rendering in a higher resolution are very different, and running things at a higher resolution is much, much more complicated.

Think of it this way: In a 2D game, it's possible for a developer to say "I want this sprite to move halfway across the screen in two seconds. That's 120 pixels in 60 frames, so in each frame it'll move two pixels"

Now what if you're rendering in 1080? It's now moving four times slower than your developer wanted.

It would be very bad practice to program like that, but it does happen, because 3DS games are only designed to run on the hardware they're made for, unlike PC games where developers expect specs to vary.

Emulators that render games in a higher resolution than the source console don't just take a variable called "resolution" in the console's programming and let you change it, they contain a buttload of code to help minimise glitches like that. Dolphin devs have even put loads of work into optimising specific, popular games because making an all-purpose solution isn't always possible.
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>>32417968
The switch by design is a retarded useless thing. Most hybrids are. The 3ds not having an audio jack on top in the current year is just retarded
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>>32417904
They do
They released it back when RBY VC came out
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>>32418014
idk how a jack would go on top.

the top screen is too thin for a jack.

the back near the charger would make the headphone wire get in the way of things, as well as shorten the wire in a sense since it has to get around the back of the 3ds.

the best place is either the bottom or maybe the side
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>>32418009
True, it's not that easy. I mainly mentioned that because I was messing around with Citra the other day, and games like Bravely Second look gorgeous at 720p, which makes me sad that such a game is wasted on 240p screens.
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>>32418043
the top being thin is my assumption, i'm not near mine right now ti check to be sure, but there's also very little tech in the top screen, most of its in the bottom. it'd be a pain to move stuff up and keep it the same
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>>32418014
On the top would be an awful place since you'd have to snake your headphone cable around the top screen. The side would be a better place, since it wouldn't be much in the way, nor would the rest of the system be in its way.
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So, does anyone still doubt that the next main games will be on the 3DS family system?
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>>32418061
>>32418043
The bottom is awful if you play your 3ds while laying on your front. I don't have issues with my phone's audio jack and that one's on top.
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>>32418103
desu, there's not really a good place to put it on there

even though like that, the bottom sucks, in most other positions you play in it works best.
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It would probably be the first 3DS Pokemon title with acceptable performance, but Alola is such a weak map it's unlikely a BW2 treatment would save the game itself for me.

>>32418094
A Switch game is most likely coming in 2018 judging by the details on job listings Game Freak has put out, probably Gen VIII judging by the lack of Mythicals for next year, however if we get a game this year like the release pattern since Platinum dictates, then it'll be another Gen VII game on 3DS.
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>>32418103
I'm not disagreeing, the bottom is a bit annoying of a place for the headphone jack, but the top likely wouldn't be all that great for the 3ds. It works on your phone, but that's of uniform thickness, and not having a screen above and in front of the headphone jack. The top screen also wouldn't be all that great, since I don't think there's enough space for it, and that's a great way to accidentally close your 3ds when you least want to.
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>>32417850
Should import this so I can finally play Japanese 3DS games.
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>>32418127
>People still think Pokemon mainline games are going to the Switch

Jesus Christ. Give it up, Switch is not the replacement for Nintendo's handheld console.
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>>32417725
Will older games still lag n shit on these or just because of the processing power only load faster?
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>>32419199
But they are though. All of gamefreak s models have been optimized for HD use, it obvious that they are planning to put Pokemon on the switch after this gen. plus all Pokemon have walking animations buried in the code, and since the 3DS can't handle that, it's definetly planned for the switch.
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>>32419837
>3DS can't handle it so it won't be in 3DS games

You must be some special kind of snowflake.
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>>32417944
You have no idea how popular the 2ds actually is do you? Google is your friend.
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>>32419865
This.
There are more than enough retarded shit parents, who never should have reproduced, that are afraid a DS capable of '3D' might cause their autistic child to go ballistic.
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>>32417755
Basically to use any spare parts and make a buck off of it like most hardware revisions.
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>>32417861
>It looks like the fixed the issue people had with the N3DS where people would accidentally eject the game cart
That was never an issue.
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>>32419890
I don't know if it's retarded when we just don't have long term studies that say 3D is 100% safe for kids. I mean, it likely is, but why take the chance when there's a 3D free cheaper model right there?
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>>32419837
YES, i put my money on a new pokemon game on 3ds but.. a version 4 switch because they have employing new people with experience on wii u graphics
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>>32417725
Not planning on buying it anyway. The first ones were garbage.
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>>32417755
Cheaper
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Already converted to New because I couldn't resist the Galaxy style. The bigger screen size and better loading times helped.

I don't see this flopping too badly. A lot of people don't care about 3D (especially after Pokemon abandoned it) but still want a big screen, and this enbales those people to buy a cheaper XL New console.
As for the kids angle, less "damaging" 3D worries, in addition to being the better model of 2ds but cheaper than the n3dsxl might push it. A lot of parents might just splurge the extra 70 so they don't need to worry that the future pokemon game might not be compatible.
In addition, the hinge thing only seems to be a toddler issue. Once a kid is about 5, they can handle things with more care and start worrying about things like which console is better. The standard 2ds remains a viable toddler distraction. Though I assume it'll slowly be phased out.

So, assuming the standard model is phased out so it doesn't cannibalize sales, it should do fine.
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>>32417784
Pokemon won't be a New exclusive; they'd be limiting their sales by 90%. It will probably just be something like Sun/Moon 2 run at 6fps on a 3DS and 12fps on the new 3ds. Or 6fps but with 3d.
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>>32419846
>I can't refute his argument so I'll call him a special snowflake

You make me question how stupid this board can truelly get.
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>>32417749
Disgusting.
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>>32420003
Not everything that looks like stupidity is bait, retard.

Also, what's bad about being a special snowflake? They are cool and unique.
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>>32420037
I wasn't calling his post bate though. And being a special snowflake is a bad thing nowadays.
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>>32419837
>All of gamefreak s models have been optimized for HD use,
They haven't they're just absurdly high poly even by today's standards
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>2DS
Ghey.
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>>32417832
2DS is made for children of paranoid parents who think the 3d is dangerous.
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>>32420185
Good point anon.

However I think my point still stands, those walking Pokemon animations are obviously leading to something of higher power the switch
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>>32420537
To put it simpler, 2ds is for children. That's why it's such a bulky shape without a breakable hinge. For far younger children, 3d can be not great for the eyes, but the reason it isn't there is so it can be cheaper and because the kiddies won't miss it.
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>>32420555
Doubt it. They were most likely used for Pokefinder debugging which is why they were low poly and very basic.
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The color schemes remind me of Reshiram and Zekrom
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>>32417725
So I came to this thread, and all I see is buttfuckery about the new model. Nobody's posted any source or wondered whether this statement came from inbetween op's buttocks, so I'll just have to do it.
I've been living under a rock for the past day, source pls?
pls don't let this be true I don't want to buy a new console
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>>32422380
Luckily the actual design is much better than that gen 5 trash.
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>>32417725
>Sun/Moon 2
did you mean gen 8?
no more sequels/third version
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>>32417897
Nope, it's coming to UK as well.
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>>32422408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxNHhgMuTg
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>>32422408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxNHhgMuTg&ab_channel=Nintendo
here you go friendo
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>>32422501
>>32422504
Sorry, I forgot to specify. I was aware of the new model. My question is what confirms s2/m2?
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>>32422269
Pokefinder? Are you joking? You're telling me that groudon and kyogre and arceus are meant to walk and run around in pokefinder? Your so deep in denial im confused as to how you thought that was something worth posting.
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>>32422380
BW remakes/sequels confirmed?
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>>32422534
Nah, that's pulled out of OP's ass, I think. I wouldn't be surprised if they did make it, but there's no evidence of such yet.
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This is just a gimmick to sell DS for one last time before it finally dies.

A quick google search showed that there is only a small number of generic garbage games dated to come out this year for the DS.

This is like that mini gameboy thing that came out before its cycle ended.
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It'll probably be announced out-of-the-blue in early May like what happened with ORAS. If we don't get an announcement by E3, then we can assume the next games will be pushed to 2018.
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>>32423298
just because you aren't interested in an IP doesn't make it generic garbage:
>Kirby
>Pikmin
>Ever Oasis
>Monster Hunter XX/Stories
>Fire Emblem Heroes
>whatever shitty yokai watch game is coming out
>Layton

that's on top of whatever shovelware they intend to peddle to the masses

also possibly runbow
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>>32417770
Me because I'm going to buy the shit out of this
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>>32423472
>fire emblem heroes
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>>32417770
Me. The only 3ds I have is an original model that I lost the stylus for, I was considering getting a new console anyway for a bigger screen, amiibo and to finally get a stylus again (yes I know you can just buy replacements. However 3DSs are too expensive and 2DSs are unfoldable bricks, this is exactly the product I was looking for.
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>>32419890
I got my 2DS because it was really cheap and because i had a new 3DS in my hands for a week and the hinge was annoying and made me nervious that i could break it.
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>>32423472
>>Fire Emblem Heroes
Echoes, you fucking shart
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>In an unexpected move, Nintendo has confirmed that the New 2DSXL will include Bluetooth support presumably for wireless headsets and controllers. When asked if it would be compatible with the Nintendo Switch's Joy Cons as rumours have suggested, Nintendo declined to comment but said that it had more to announce at a later date in regards to future first-party accessories.
Holy fuck.
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>>32423720

Fire Emblem Warriors too.
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>>32417725
Well I mean people WERE saying it was going to be a switch exclusive...
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>>32417725
>already have a vanilla 3DS, 2 3DSXL
>have to buy New3/2DS to play Pokemon with only a slightly more acceptable framerate
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Basically confirms the Pokémon main title series will be on 3DS this year, again.

Also, confirms that the Switch game will be a spinoff, similar to PokéPark or Pokkén, etc.
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>>32426017
We might get a switch spin off game this year, but gamefreak has been working on a switch game that's planned for 2018 release.
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>>32417750
>>32417725
>>32417826
These color ways, and the general design with the cover is just awful.
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>>32417755
... Also, think that they maybe are testing if this 3d functionality is what his customers "want"
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>>32418162
Just homebrew senpai, you can play region free on it than.
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I just want the Dragon Quest slime edition, but it's a Japan only edition? Make me sad.
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If it does become n3ds exclusive I'll be disgruntled. I would've gotten one by now if they had the xl in the nice pink and white pattern like the 3dsxl
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>>32425650
It's definitely happening, since the Joycons can work with PC

>>32423298
the difference being the DS can play GBA games and the Switch cant play 3DS games
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>>32425825
Is that weezing?
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>>32427907
Are you a cute boy? :3
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>>32427973
Maybe~ :3
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