>gym leader that uses a starter >gym leader that uses a

And Gardenia is still the easiest of all the Sinnoh leaders. Thank god it's Grass type, or Roserade would have been troublesome.

>>32366239
they were thinking that they already had the second gym leader in a previous generation use a pokemon with 115 speed and 100 sp.atk

>>32366303
Roark's cranidos hits like a fucking truck

>>32366565

That's what you get when the first Gym Leader has a Pokemon with the same base attack as Gyarados. This is why Gardenia is easier. Also I forgot Byron even existed. He's probably the easiest Sinnoh leader, especially as all three starters are pretty effective against him.

>>32366239
Grass-type is shit. Even a Water-type can weak that Gym for you.

I'd to level up a Hoothoot to beat her cause all I had on my team was a Graveler and Prinplup

>>32366239
>third gym leader is a Ghost-type leader
>fucks over all three starters
I forgot how I beat Fantina the first time I beat Platinum.

Misty's Starmie is much better and she's still not that hard. Holy fuck faggots git gud

>>32367097

how? doesn't Turtwig's line learn crunch anyways?

>>32367727
Not before you challenge Fantina.