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Grassfag pride worldwide edition

Happy 1 year anniversary Pokémon Duel!

>Discord chat
https://discord.gg/VYtmAcs
>Figure Lists (Click the figure to see the movesets)
http://serebii.net/duel/figures.shtml
>Plates Listing
http://serebii.net/duel/plates.shtml
>Quest Rewards
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/amanomurakumo/20170129
>Japanese Pokemon Duel twitter
https://twitter.com/pokemoncomaster

Store Links:
>iOS
itunes.apple.com/us/app/pokemon-duel/id1078819328
>Android
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.pokemon.pokemoncomaster&hl=en
>APK File
www.apkmirror.com/apk/the-pokemon-company/pokemon-duel/

>FAQs
http://pastebin.com/U26QTvSY

Previous thread >>32308330
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>>32318022
>yfw sexpacks and orange boosters don't have the new grass bois
as a grass fag i had to throw all gems into quads realm
i did get cool dudes, at least
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>>32318034
Yeah the orange booster seems really useless this time around
Guess they really want to jew people into buying their gem """premium""" package
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>>32318049
except most of us who bought the gem package went and spent it on sex packs without reading what was in each booster

I want to say that I feel like a retard but I don't. I feel like I was scammed out of 8 dollars. Not everyone checks this thread and reddit constantly and would have seen the complaints about sex packs
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>>32318086
>Buying shit without checking booster contents
Your own fault.
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>>32318095
why would there be any reason to assume the contents of the sex packs would be any different than the contents of the quad/double/single packs?
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Did we finally break the cycle?
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>>32317603
>The fuck do I use all these C cubes on
Bayleef because Meganium is going to be the welfare EX this gym.
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>>32318156
I feel like they won't make a start a gym prize but who knows
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>release a bunch of new grass/poison figures I want
>won't get them because all I ever get are rainbow boxes
>get nothing but bugbot figures and Wobbs out of those
At least I have two Koffing and Weezing and now Bayleaf to use in the gym! Can still pull them but I'm just going to get more shitty Cs even from a six pack.
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>>32318156
>>32318189
It's gonna be Gengar
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>>32318119
Sexpacks will be gone for Gym time though so it goes back to "sexpacks when?" :^)
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>>32318108
Sex packs were always different. They even said so in the news announcement that they had a set of 20 EXs that they chose.
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>play SIX matches
>lose because of consecutive misses
>lose because of the smallest purple segment landed on yellow
>lose because of FUCKING RNG
play smart and get ass annihilated like holy shit, i've never seen my team job so hard until today
i feel like opening a quad, if this post is evens i'll open one
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>>32318086
>Birds, Mew, Greninja, Ho-oh, Yveltal, Metagross, and Latis
>R and UC staples like Vibrava, Eons, Whimsicott, Shuppet, and more
This sexpack is a godsend if you're not a whale

>>32318108
>giant colorful picture of radically different figures when you go to buy the sexpack
>featured figures are different when you click on each banner
>patch notes specified what was in each box
I can't think of any reason why anyone would make your mistake
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>>32318325
You should open one anyway
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>giveaway grimer as a login reward
grimer can pass through poisoned figures

>welfare ex is muk
i can dream right? and muk will actually be good?
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>it's a "win 3 league matches in a row" special
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>>32318436
>not 4
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>>32318520
That 4 wins mission is not in a row
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>use 2 booster tickets
>see a rainbow glow
>please please be a new grass ex
>its my 4th chesnut in 2 days

if i fuse 2 so I'll have two 91 damage chesnaught runners (or ill do one quilladin) for the grass gym can I fuse those two after to have a 103 chesnaught?

although i might keep two for a future fighting gym
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I have two Mews. Should I fuse them?
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Will CLv+ Cacnea be useful in the gym?
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>>32318086
>Not everyone checks this thread and reddit constantly and would have seen the complaints about sex packs
Nigga, they changed the way they display the booster and included a button that shows you the exclusives EX you can get from them and their abilities, you have no one to blame but yourself
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>>32318436
>lose 3 matches to get to bugbot
>only have to win the next 2 after after bugbot
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Alright, just bought the 800 gems promo, putting me at just over 1000
Gonna open five quadpacks, let's see what happens
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>>32318843
1st: Tentacruel, Shiftry, Leafeon
2nd: Grovyle, Gastly
3rd: Tentacruel, SCEPTILE
I still have 400 gems left, but the reason I bought this was for my bro Sceptile
I already have a Virizion, so now all I need is Trevenant. Do I craft it or do I open two more packs?
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Damn globalists.
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>>32318882
>that fucking luck
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Is tropical energy enought to win deoxys decks? Looks really good vs reuniculus but not dat good vs deoxys, i feel like dark energy is better for countering deoxys
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>>32318022
>Grassfag pride

All I'm seeing right now is Deoxys teams using Zapdos, Sceptile and Virizion to fuck against mirror matches.
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>>32319023
and the powercreep continues
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>>32319012
Yes and no. Here's a reddit post comparing the matchups of popular grass/flying figures against Deoxys:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonduel/comments/654xqw/tropical_energy_vs_deos_with_added_numbers/
The issue is that even without respinning, both Deoxys and Reuniclus are still extremely strong figures at the very right end of the curve for their MP, so they're still going to be used until they're either directly nerfed or the game creeps past them.
All Tropical Energy and the rest of this patch has done is change them from being objectively overpowered and statistically unbeatable, to simply being the best figures in the game.
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>>32319055
>reddit in charge of basic math
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>>32319065
Literally just numbers off the db, even retards can copy and paste.
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>Against team I can't plain beat due to its sheer power
>Manage to stall the fuck out and win by time out
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Where were you when the biggest threat to Deoxys was a little bulb?
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>finally get my first birb
>Moltres, plus meta is changing

Fug
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>>32319249
Is this thing really that good? Haven't been playing recently
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>>32319442
Against Deoxys A, sure.
Against everything else it's just a 2mp mon with a 50% purple/blue.

And even against Deoxys teams, you will never really fight Deoxys A with it, because if you start the fight you'll just end up against Deoxys S anyway.
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>>32319073
except literally the first calculation is wrong, i didnt even bother reading the rest
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The problem with Deoxys team is the plate, you're basically fighting against three mons who have huge attack, good defenses and can have 3mp. The only surefire way to kill them is a 131+ gold attack.

They should make so the plate can only let you switch 5 times per duel, after that the game should be more maneageable.
5 times should be enough to not make a whale mad since you can still easily win if you play properly but at least it gives a chance to good players.
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>>32319553
Whales will get mad with any direct nerfs
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>>32319563
Direct nerfs are the only true solution to meta problems of this caliber.
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>>32319553
>They should make so the plate can only let you switch 5 times per duel, after that the game should be more maneageable.
Not really.
like you said it's not safe to attack them at all unless you have someone with a 131+ gold attack, so unless you have some pokemon with huge purples or mew, it's gonna be really hard to waste those 5 switches.
they need to make dark teams more viable, dark energy has so far gave me some pretty good results, the only problem is that more than often i don't have the time to set up a counter to Deo/reu before they force me to block them or lose.
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>you're in the booster shop when this guy slaps your waifu's ass
what do you do?
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>>32319735
*unsheates leaf blade*
psssh... nothin personnel... kid...
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>>32319479
>And even against Deoxys teams, you will never really fight Deoxys A with it, because if you start the fight you'll just end up against Deoxys S anyway.
Did you forget it's a grass Pokemon?
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>>32319735
that guy is rank 3 on the ladder
him and the other top two are all using deoxys teams still

if the new stuff was actually a good counter then those figs would be up the top

if the devs actually care about this game they're going to have to nerf deoxys properly
I dont want to hear a single excuse about 'but the whales will be upset!' because its not fucking valid
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>>32319832
Does the plate block cosmo plate too? Because otherwise Deoxys A just goes away and throws Deoxys S that can kill you safely.
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>>32319791
this made me laugh more than it should have
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>>32319912
it doesnt
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>>32319616
The problem with this game format is that single counters can't work for the meta, this is more or less a card game, and a card game where there's an absolute top tier deck that eventually will be only be beaten by a new deck is fucking shit.
This game should have been a plain casual gimmicky fest in my opinion, releasing pokèmon like Trevenant or other tech pokémon, so the game becomes and actual strategy game where positioning matters, and not a "I'm going towards your goal with my 130 damage figure, if you stop me then I'll go with my 100+120 respinning figure" shitfest.
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>>32316574
pic related and Arbok

bless you free booster tickets
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bullying people when doing room match quests is pretty fun
people use a lot more 1mp figgeronis
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So guys, I haven't been playing for a whole long while, and I don't have many EX

I've got Dragonite and Groudon from the gyms, Charizard, Blastoise, Greninja, Empoleon, Ho-oh, Zygarde, and Xerneas. Is it worth it to spend more on sexpacks to fill out my EXs, or should I go for quads to try and get the good gym figs?
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>>32320199
probably sexpacks for you
your only really good ones are greninja and ho-oh
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>>32319563
just in case anyone is doubting you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonduel/comments/5wf8sj/please_be_respect_to_your_opponent_and_lose_with/

Just read the first comment and you'll see why the devs won't nerf EX/R figures. For more backstory, the OP spent $200 trying to get a deoxys team.
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>>32320247
that's not a valid reason to not nerf them
players like that are a cancerous part of the playerbase and dont benefit the game overall

leaving deoxys and reuniclus like this is good for a quick cash grab but if they want a sustainable model then they need real balance fixes

no nerfs -> no players -> no reason for whales to whale
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>>32320199
do the sexpacks anon. they've got a lot of things you could use like manaphy, mew, metagross, legendary birds, maybe another greninja, and you'll get more materials
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>>32320267
to expand on this, if they want to attract whales then the gym system is already designed well for it

in the current state, whales have NO more reason to ever spend money on the game because they already have the best figures that win every situation, whether they get the gym buff or not

having overall balanced figures with fun new figs coming out before a gym (like virizion, sceptile etc.) gives an incentive for whales to spend dosh to try to get them for the gym rather than sitting on deoxys and never spending another dollar until the game dies out
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>>32319849
>appeal to minority group
OR
>rake thousands of dollars a day from people with jobs

Either way, small amounts of asskicking is made significant everyday. Unless they fuck up and actually buff Deoxys, of course.
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>>32320299
>dimensional slip now works like shuttle flip
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>>32320308
STOP
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>>32320199
Birds, Mew, and Metagross are mandatory if you're not running Deo/Reu or Grass right now.
Other EXs are usable.
There are also very important non-EX figures in the sexpacks, not to mention Plates.
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>>32319849
idk how accurate the monthly ladder is. i still see fire bird teams
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>>32320319
>niantic buys out pokemon duel
>merges it with pokemon go to become 'pokemon go duel'
>booster system removed, the real world works as the game board
>combat system replaced with tappy tappy tappy tappy tappy tappy tappy
>tappys per minute are limited based on a direct conversion from average value of white attacks because they dont understand how porting mechanics works
>deoxys-A flat out has the highest tappys per minute
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>>32319849
The new patch is literally two days old.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but give it more time.
People barely have the new figures, and they're still experimenting with other shit like Skorupi and Petilil.
Wait until after the grass gym.
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>>32320339
>>32320379
thats true
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I'd just like to make a point that whoever is in charge of the translations or text or whatever has been actually working properly lately.
A lot of the translation issues have been getting fixed up like counter's text and the evolution help summary
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poll time
have you spent any money on this game?


http://www.strawpoll.me/12742210
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>>32320555
The anniversary offer is really tempting
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>>32320559
thats how they get you

ridiculously overpriced normal prices followed by this overpriced anniversary offer which is way better value than usual, but still expensive
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>>32320555
I haven't but I also have only been playing for like a month now. Also don't plan to until something happens to all the OP figures I keep losing to with my shitty F2P things.
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>>32320603
which figures have you got?
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>>32320570
>$8 is expensive
lmao poorfag
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>>32320833
Obviously you judge it based on what you get for it
a $1 common blade of grass is expensive
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I'm not sure how i keep winning, I feel like I keep playing worse. I should probably change my name if my last two games get featured
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>>32320833
$8 is pretty expensive for a mobile game. I remember back when Farmville and Cityville were things, just $1 could get you a lot of things. In this game you get literally nothing. I know things have changed since F2P became the dominant mobile game strategy but still.

Plus it's a matter of value. I'm pretty sure that all of us here (except maybe that NEET guy) can afford $8. Is $8 worth it for the amount of excitement, entertainment, etc. you get from the gems?
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What should I spend 7000 material on?

My current team:

Mew
Leafeon
Whimsicott
Reshiram
Ho-oh
Zapdos

Tropical Energy, Scoop Up, Hurdle Jump, and some other stuff


Zekrom makes sense but I don't have enough gems for 2x Overdrive. Plus 2 figures with Wait for many turns bothers me. I don't know if I can pull it off. I like playing aggressively and the dragons are supposed to be played defensively.

I was also thinking either Deoxys A, Metagross, Sceptile, or Virizon
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Just going to repost this from the last thread

If anyone is unsure whether to buy sexpacks or quadpacks here's a guide I made on the subject:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qJypzUWbUnv_xQEKgTJ_4g3to1fr2ImYTkJaZ2a8RN0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>32321115
Dont make me kiss you
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>can't post screenshot

wut

anyway, my Greninja spun x11 today against a shuppet, talk about overkill, but when I want it to spin TWICE it fails
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>>32320613
My only EXs are Giratina/Emploen/Groudon
"Good" Rs include Kirlia and Mawile, Flygon, Pikachu, TTar and Jolteon who I haven't used except for paralysis memes in room games.
>UC: Vibrava, Sliggoo back in the gym
and then Cs are all shit but Poliwag is 3MP and likes to pretend it lands on Hypnosis ever.
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>>32321226
are you in the discord?
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Fuck sake my Greninja must be a defective model

It is so fucking clutch and never jobs. I can't count the times it has saved my ass THANK YOU GRENINJA
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Is Kirlia still any good?
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>>32321217
Water Shuriken is a wild card.of the highest order

Some days it will loses to commons and other days, if your Greninja is like mine, will push Zekrom's shit in twice in the same match
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>>32321237
Yeah.
>>32321238
Don't doubt coolfrog and dolphin
Also I'm still disappointed that we're getting a poison event and there's no Croagunk/Toxicroak figures.
>>32321240
Its whites are shit but if you land on that purple it's amazing.
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>>32321238
>>32321217
greninja picks the weirdest times to go super saiyan
of course he never does this against reuniclus though
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>>32321096
A metagross would be a good idea, it shut down Reu teams, but then again you're already using tropical energy, so there's no point in that.
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>>32321261
MOTTO MOTTO
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>>32321115
Great work anon
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>>32321115
added to a section in he faq
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>>32321584
Nope, $8 for 4 quads is not worth it. Might as well play TCG at that point.
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I'm running out of space and I don't know what will be useful in the gym. Should I get rid of Arbok, Seviper, or both?
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Megas when?
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>>32321700

Play how you wanna play!~ :3

Synergy counts loads in general. I have lotsa EXs but I play full evo lines with teams that have 2 legendaries tops. Funner that way for myself and my opponent, IMO.


I checked Sevy' and noticed that it has no miss when leveled up to the max. Goes well with Desperate times~
On a semi-related note, Got any Tentacools? :3
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>>32321750
why are you doing this
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>>32321744
>4MP
>moves over all figures
>150 power yellow, 80%
>only un-Megad if removed from game
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>>32321769

I play to learn. Whether I win or "lose", I gain a fun experience! ^_^
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>>32321848
no why are you typing like that
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>>32321852

I just think emoticons are cute~

Like that Plusle/Minun/Audino team I used a while back before figures got crazy powerful lol
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is sceptile worth using material on? my highest attack power on my team is only 100
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>>32321961
Definitely. Bonus if you have/get a Grovyle
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Will CLv+ Cacnea be worth using in the grass gym? Mine's only CLv 3 but the gym is a week away. I could get it to 5. I don't know if it's worth it though especially since we have Sceptile and Virizion now.
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>>32322009
no
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>>32322009
If grass were getting the damage boost, I'd say yes. As is, it's still fairly mediocre.
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>decide to burn energy on story while there's no gym
>also getting that fresh 4exp for these grass and poison guys I haven't used yet
>140 attack Tentacools because apparently this hotel specializes in poison
Whoo boy this gym is going to be all sorts of fun and stupid.
>>32322009
>CLv3 Cacnea
Why would you ever do that?
>>32322049
Phantump is great. They're gonna be the Tentacools of the grass type and big daddy tree will be their Manaphy.
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>>32322069
>>CLv3 Cacnea
>Why would you ever do that?
I did it back when there was a chance grass could get the damage buff. Cacnea would actually be really scary with a buff.
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I just got a Sceptile. Do I level up Leaf Blade or Stealth Hit?
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>>32321961

Oh shoot, did you spend those mats yet? Just noticed that Sceptile's available in the Ultra box. Could be in earlier boxes too~
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>>32322108
Whatever the blue one is called
It's actually more ridiculous than shuttle flip since you can jump forward
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>>32322105
That was like 3 days ago. Did you really get 90 Cacneas just for that?
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>>32322069
>They're gonna be the Tentacools of the grass type and big daddy tree will be their Manaphy.

Fuck I didn't even realize you Trevenant lets you move Phantumps, that's going to be obnoxious as hell.
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>>32321584
>8$ for 4 gacha pulls

I hope you guys don't do this, it's fine if you pay some money because you want to give money to the devs, but don't go tell me that the offer is a good one because it's fucking trash.
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>>32322481
I agree but have nothing else to add on the matter
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>>32322471
who the fuck are you
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>>32322471
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>>32322471
what did he mean by this
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holy balls guys

there are 6 games out of 10 on featured duels that dont have deoxys/reuniclus teams in them

they still need nerfing but I'm really glad they brought these grassy dudes out
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>tfw firefag
>tfw fire got shit
>tfw grassfags win
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>32322105
>>32322471
>>32322486
>>32322498
>>32322507
>>32322602
it all comes together
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What's the general consensus on mew vs. greninja?
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>>32323011
If you want a gold user go for Mew.
If you want a jobber go for Greninja.
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>>32323011
I own and like them both

Personally I prefer Greninja for his Water Shuriken schenanigans and (I think) larger blue piece
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>>32323011
Mew is the Anti Deo

For Greninja, see >>32321257 and >>32321261
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>>32323011
Greninja was ok, good even in manaphy teams when the game was starting, but then mew came and it was just much more reliable.
Now thanks to dark energy, greninja once more has come back as a useful figure, made to counter deu/reu decks, since it can't die, so you can throw over and over again against a deu/reu with high chances of killing it or any other deu/reu connected to it thanks to the special ability of it's water shuriken.
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>>32323423
I almost feel sad for him... almost
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>>32323011

I got a Greninja a month ago and I removed it because he jobbed for the whole week I had it.
I'd rather have Mew who can't easily die against 100+ attacks.
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>>32323011
I love Gren because of his huge dodge and high damage potential for a 3mp (obviously nothing to depend on but any extra variance against my opp is good) but I would only recommend it if you're running Dark Energy or don't have Mew
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>go first two times
>lose both times
>go second three times
>win those three matches
Hmm, really gets the old noodle going...
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>Get three sexpacks
>3 EX
>Two are Infernape and Mewtwo
JUST

I did get fug, which is not so bad, so there's that at least
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>Manage to get both entry points
>Deoxys D and S defending the goal
>I can't attack for shit because Deoxys A will just pop out and ruin everything
>Get Heatran'd and lose the entry point
>His whole bench starts leaking and I lose

Thanks.
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>Get a quad hoping for a Sceptile
>Last booster is an EX
>Trevenant

How badly did I get owned or is it actually good
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>>32323815
he's a cool dude
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>>32318436
I didn't understand the "to get to the other side" jokes until I was over 20 years old.
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Is Grovyle worth making if you have Sceptile?
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>>32323807
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>>32323815
I got both sceptile and verizion, but i really wanted trevenant, it's pretty cool, since it's ability let's you abuse it's purple, by forcing whoever you fight to go to sleep and get out of your way, it also can let other grass pokemon pass through it, it's gonna be pretty fun to use in the him, since it's only big flaw is that it has only 1 MP
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>>32323811
>going against a similar player, Reuniclus instead of Deoxys
>have Glaceon and Mew on his entry points
>keeps on trying to attack Glaceon with Heatran
>Glaceon keeps on landing Purple and Blue
>move my Sceptile closer to Glaceon to take back the entry in case it gets KO'd
>Heatran starts attacking Mew now
>Mew lands Hyper Sonic
>Heatran lands on his 1 sized miss
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>>32323815
It's going to be good in the gym if you have grass types, specially Phantump since you will move it for 3mp through other pokémon.
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>>32323867
totally, it will hit for 120 most of the time, and 70 dmg is still pretty nice, since it's a R figure it shouldn't be hard to clv it to 2, and once you evolve it to sceptile it will be really fucking scary
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>>32323917
>21-25% is 'most of the time'

where the hell did you people learn maths?
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>>32323926
>Muh math
i'm talking from experience, so far grovyle as been doing pretty well for me.
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>>32323941
>probability in a probability based board game is irrelevant because 'muh anecdotal experience'
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>>32323903
I might try replacing my Groudon with it, break energy hasn't been relevant for me at all and Trevenant looks good even without a team of grass types
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>>32323953
>if you're not playing with a fucking abacus next to you to calculate every move you better not fucking play the game, ''muh math'' is everything
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>>32323926
>an attack half the size of the wheel only has 1/4 chance of landing on the same side again
nigga what
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Protect or Confuse Ray on Phantump?
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>>32323993
i think confuse ray would be better if you're playing against deoxis decks
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>>32323969
we're not playing the game right now we're discussing it, so why would you say that a 25% outcome is 'most of the time'?
these are ridiculously simple calculations, it pays to understand the likely outcomes if you want good results
you were probably one of the primary school kids who would say 'when am i ever going to need to know this in real life?' and now that you need it you pretend it doesnt matter because it is too complicated for your single neuron mind to comprehend
>>32323981
1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4
its 25 %chance overall
i.e. the probability of landing that half twice in a row
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>>32324025
>you were probably one of the primary school kids who would say 'when am i ever going to need to know this in real life?' and now that you need it you pretend it doesnt matter because it is too complicated for your single neuron mind to comprehend
Dude, you sound like an obnoxious nerd right now, if we were in school i would totally shove you into a locker.
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>>32324039
well we cant both be in school because i graduated
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>>32324025
>when am i ever going to need to know this in real life?
I only said this about algebra desu
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>>32324025
Well, because the probability of rolling the second one is independent of rolling the first one, if you've already rolled a 70, there's a 50% chance you're going to roll a 120.

>>32324048
>algebra
>not useful in everyday life
What? If you were talking about calc, I would agree unless you're a scientist or engineer, but algebra?
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>>32324044
Ha, i can't be mad with you, you're so far gone that it's hilarious.
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/pdg/- Algebra and Statistics General
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>>32324056
I know dude
but when you attack with a grovyle into something like a moltres you want to know the overall probability of landing the 120 which is 25%
you don't roll 70, freeze time and then go 'ok now that I've rolled 70 is the probability of rolling it again worth unfreezing time or should I continue forever in an unending void'
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>>32324057
yeah man, so far past 4th grade
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>>32323791
You get to pick your matchups if you play 2nd

Going 2nd is god tier if you have long throw/Heatran/Empoleon
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Good Bug types when
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Please, when you fight against Deoxys teams just forfeit and leave, you know you're going to lose anyway, so don't make me waste time and just let me get my rewards.
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>>32324114
(you)
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>Win two league matches against deoxys users in a row
>Feel like I've used all my luck up for today
>Get the quest asking for 3 wins in a row
>Didn't count those
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I have 3200 dust, I want to craft Deoxys A but I'm also thinking of waiting until 4000 for metagross. I'm new to the game so I don't really know much about the meta or have many ex figures. My best ones are Mew, Latios, and Ho Oh
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>>32324294
Mew and Ho Oh are good. I wouldn't craft Deo A. I have him and never use him. Meta is more valuable imo
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>>32324114
Deoxys teams are my favorite to play against. Fuck Resh & Zek teams which usually remove one of my runners
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evolved Sceptile triggers Hyper Sonic :^)
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>>32324391
>hyper sonic only causes a tie
>risking rolling leaf blade/psychic or quick attack/hyper sonic
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>>32324391
And its blue hurdle jumps Mew anyway, so it's still worthwhile to attack it. Plus that way you don't die to Zapdos and other 100 attackers and at worst will clank against them.
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my Sceptile dies more of getting quick attack against weak stuff than anything else
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I've got over 4000 mats now, should I get one of the new figs so I can have it for the gym? Or should I just get Zapdos/Mew, since I still don't have either of those?

I'm this >>32320199 >>32323807 guy
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>>32324625
I'd say Zapdos/Mew since they will always be good. Zapdos will also be good in the gym as well since it can block/counter Virizion.
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>>32324625
Get Zapdos. Mew is good but there are other serviceable runners that do fine even into mid masters.

Also NEVER buy an ex with mats just for a gym. For one thing, gyms last for a week. For another, your entire team needs to be good to place well in gyms, not just 1-2 figyres
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>unboxed a Venusaur from a timed booster
unbefuckinglievable
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>>32325261
>Get Venusaur from a locked booster a while ago
>Weezing from my first sex after the game was released here
>Crobat from a quad
>I can theoretically drag Deo A psycho boost down to 70 damage

Poison synergy is mad crazy
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Will Weezing be good in the gym or is that just wishful thinking? I've gotten two of them and two Koffing from timed boosters, but I'm kind of doubtful they're worth a whole lot. Sludge bomb is really not that great, even with the +20 damage and (theoretically) an evo boost, poison isn't that great of a strategy unless you have all the pieces (especially Venusaur and Crobat) which I don't.
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>>32325595
it probably won't be without venasaur. i have venasaur and crobat and I've been testing it out a little. what poison needs is a reliable heavy hitter to match some of the new grass types which will dominate the gym. even with noxious it is still hard to pressure opponents.

maybe the gym ex will fix that
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So I got a couple Tropius with those golden tickets and this in a sixpack
Should I restart?
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>>32325595
From what I've seen in featured duels and >reddit, Poison is an extremely strong archtype right now.

Most of the teams I've seen have Venusaur, Umbreon, Weezing, Ho-oh, Crobat/Mew, and then one extra figure, usually Zapdos.

It alongside Deo/Reu and Grass/Flying seem to be the only relevant decks right now.
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>>32325770
Is this a fresh account? Then yes, you absolutely should. Empoleon isn't a good EX to start with and there isn't any UC or even R worth not rerolling over.

Reroll targets right now from the Sexpacks are Zapdos, Mew, and Metagross primarily, or other Birds, Ho-oh, Greninja, or Latis secondary.
Reroll targets from quadpacks are Virizion and Sceptile primarily, or any other EX barring Genesect or Chesnaught secondary.
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>>32325882
Ok m8, thanks
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>Work my ass off for the 3 wins in a row mission
>3 UC Ingots

Thank you very much
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>>32326146
Honestly, if you ever get the mission don't bother. You're probably gonna go on tilt if you try it for a chance at a decent prize
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>land on miss 1 time for 3 figures
>lost overdrive because of that 1 miss
>land on opponent's aura sphere 2 times
>reuniclus rerolled into hyper beam against my white/yellow and confuse ray against my 1-2 star purple
>two moves and my goal will be be surrounded
>enemy reuniclus provokes my zekrom(double goalie)
>zekrom flies away
>two moves and i lose by surround
>get closer to the opponent's goal
>opponent moves reuniclus next to my articuno and doesn't attack
>attack opponent infernape on their goalie with zekrom
>land bolt strike against mach punch
>they send out their reshiram to fight my zekrom
>land fusion bolt
>BTFO the reshiram by removing it
>can already see the opponent's tears
>win
i deserve this
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>>32325882
Latis some trash even if they steamroll at lower ranks. Also Moltres is worthy of a mention since its 110 white is very good in this Zapdos heavy meta, as well as fairly decent for beating Reun and Deo-A if you have Trop energy and X-Attack active

If hes new he should also stick to sexpacks and not quads, to build his team up
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>>32326630
He mentioned booster tickets, which cannot be used on sex.
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>>32325997
>>32325770
join the discord and show what you've got
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>>32326921
Yeah, I got 3 and used them, but next day got enough gems for the sexpack. And got what's in the pic. I restarted and got a Phantump in a white box and Tentacruel on the timed box thing. Tomorrow when I get my 100 gems I'll open a sexpack and also a golden box
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>Game start, Opponent puts Sceptile on his left entry point
>I do a yolo Bulbasaur rush up the middle right
>He sends Pikachu out and attack Bulba
>Seed Bomb > Quick Attack
>I move Bulba to adjacent left of the goalpoast instead of the right entry point because I dont want to get raped by Heatran
>His only option is to attack Bulba with Sceptile
>Seed Bomb > Miss
gg no re
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>>32327296
always rely on lettuce
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>>32327296
>>32327310
in what world does this occur

but yeah anyone attacking out of the gate should automatically lose
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Is Phantump worth having with the Trevenant evolution? I pretty much always lose against full Deoxys teams, but I'm not sure having Phantump would increase my chances of winning that much unless I have other cosmo energy counters.
My current team is Natu, Magmar, Gothorita (these three with evolutions attatched), Deoxys-A (cLvl2) and Shuppet. The 6th slot is basically free so I can add Phantump if it's good enough, but I also got Greninja, Virizion and Petilil today so one of those might be more valuable than Phantump or one of my current team members.
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>>32327386
fuck, was meant to be "WITHOUT the trevenant evolution".
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>>32327386
Skorupi is a decent light Deo counter since it confuses all of them upon battle, I'd say it's even a potentially better counter than Phantump.

Petilil is also a pretty good hard counter to Deo-A specifically.

What rank are you though? Your team makes it seem like you've just started (this isn't a criticism - most people start out with weaker teams until they can start pulling the strong shit) so I'm a little surprised you're fighting Deoxys. Shuppet is pretty good at playing around them by getting surrounds or just for lategame rush purposes, but obviously this will only work on dumber Deoxys players.
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Out of curiosity anons, what have been your best pulls, whether they were from timed boosters, packs, etc.

>Won a 1-hour silver booster
>Opened it up, figured it would just be some C-tier trash
>Ends up being a FUCKING LATIOS
>mfw

>Just a few days ago
>Grass update drops
>Had a 24-hour booster
>Open it up the next day and pull Trevenant
>Also mfw
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>>32327569
Purple Boosters are a godsend, I've gotten the following from them:
>Mew My 2nd but still cool
>Yveltal
>EX Cube

Best pulls from Quads
>Moltres
>Mew
>Magmortar
>Sceptile

Got a Greninja from a gym booster too which was neat.
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>Grass/Poison gym
>Ivysaur becomes a 3MP runner
>33% chance to sleep
>both attacks boosted +20
>with status it loses its weakest attack

shiieeeet never looked forward to using a common this badly
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>>32327490
I've been playing since launch, and while my highest rank has been 2585 (I don't know what the fuck happened, might have been when I was running 2 Deoxys-As) I'm currently sitting at 2268.
My deck works surprisingly well: I can evolve my dudes very easily, beat Reuiniclus/birds most the time as well as beating other Deoxys-As with mine as it's clvl2. I've done a lot of testing with the EXs I have, but I still manage to end up winning more games with Xatu Teleport and Gothitelle Squared Attack shenanigans. It's just cosmo energy teams that I have almost no chance against. I'm just not sure how to get over the cosmo energy switcharoo bullshit; Phantump requires so much setup. I've mainly just been evolving Magmar and then praying for Flame Gun.
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>>32327705
Dude you're probably going to trigger the fuck out of some people in here having a case of good EXs (Virizion, Greninja, Magmortar, Lucario arguably solo Reshiram and Blastoise) and not using them. Cheese wins are cool but you'd probably mitigate a lot of the variance on your end if you used a stronger deck.

That's more of an aside though. As for dealing with Deoxys teams, Lucario is decent-ish against Deo-A, and Greninja is somewhat useful against them as well since it can threaten Deo-D, and somewhat threaten the other two (some games you'll have to fight the Deo-A until it rolls slip, and Gren's shuriken can punish for that somewhat. You could also try out the Dark Energy plate if you managed to pull a decent 2nd Dark type like Yveltal or Umbreon. Or you could just use Skorupi to confuse all the Deoxys. Another strategy is to goal rush the Deoxys with Virizion around midgame and then use the concentrated fertilizer plate (puts his purple a star above Deo-D's) to try and take the goal. Phantump may work so you might want to try it out too.
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>>32327758
Thanks man. Gonna bench Gothorita for a while and give Virizion + Concentrated Fertilizer a try; got it in my last quad and seems pretty fun.
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What do you level up on Virizion? All three attacks seem extremely solid. I can't decide if I want to maximize the 101 white to deal with Reuniclus, or the Purple for its utility, or Grass Knot to deal with Reu/Deo and runners (but not much else).

And does anyone have experience with Trevenant? I have a full Grass deck short of him and can craft it, but I'm not entirely sure if he's worth it. His wheel seems insane, but Destiny Bond on a 1MP Pokemon seems like pure ass.
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>>32327569
My first sex from when the game first came out had Greninja, Lugia, and Shuppet in it

Best Quad had both Zekrom and a Jelly Baby in it and had also gotten 2 more jellies the next day from purple boosters

I've gotten Reshiram and 2 Heatran from Separate Orange Boosters

I got Mewtwo and Metagross back to back during the Fighting gym
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What's the best to level up on Rayquaza? 120 yellow looks amazing what you think
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>>32328397
yeah 120. Fly can kill ya
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Is there any reason to keep my two lugias or should I just fuse them?
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Took a plunge and got the one time gem offer. Pretty happy with my pulls, finally got my first birb, Vibrava, and a dupe Greninja. I have no idea what I'm going to do with 3 Ho-ohs though. Should I fuse them away for some of that sweet Clv? Especially since Fire and Flying gyms are already over.

Also, are Dark Energy teams anything good?
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>>32328937
Lugia seems kind of meh, though she might always get a buff in the future. I'd personally fuse, but it's up to you.
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>>32327569
I got 3 ex figures in a single sex at launch, but I don't remember what they were

My pull luck has been horrible in general in this game, but I manage
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http://pokemon-online.eu

Download Page :
http://pokemon-online.eu/pages/download/
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What's a good deck for going through the quests?
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rate my deck
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>>32329314
Rapedbygrass/10
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>>32329314
>three Level One figures
>zekrom without reshiram
>the most generic team possible
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>Virizion single handedly destroying 3 reuniclus and deoxys-A in a row adn reaching the goal

I like this game again.
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>>32329421
>virizion rolls grass knot against a 50 damage move
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>it's a "opponent tries to kill greninja with yveltal"
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who /natu/ here
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Empoleon buff when? Don't even have the thing, but it's such a nice Pokemon and there isn't really a reason to use it over Heatran.
>>32327851
Depends on your other pokemon and plates. I find that the 101 damage is much more safer than jobbing to a 50 damage attack with grass knot. I levelled up the purple myself, since I can beat Deoxys-Defense with it with Concentrated Fertiliser.
>>32329244
>pokemon with a big purple
>pokemon with a big chance of inflicting sleep
>tailow and tailow
having these in your deck is sometimes a reward condition. I think the Pikachu has to be the UC one, not the one you get at the beginning of the game, but I might be remembering that incorrectly.
>EX or rare with a powerful white attack
>shuppet/gastly/deoxys-speed
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Why the fuck do Sceptile figures always get the best possible rolls against me? Fuck that shit
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>Grovyle
>rare

>other starters
>common trash

What did the devs mean by this?
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>>32329610
Grass shilling for more moolah.
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>1800 shitter
>win against another 1800 shitter
>thrown into match against 2200 and get brained
oh
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should I use zekrom with overdrive, magmortar, or lucario?
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Sceptile or Virizion? I have 4k mats. I also have Grovyle.
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Any of the grass plates good?
I'm out of the loop
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o i am laffin
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>>32325882
Wew
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>>32330553
This is the rest
1/2
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>>32330585
2/2
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>when you beat yet another full grassfag team
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How good if Phantom Energy? Haven't seen much talk about it.
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>>32330428
I havent fought a Virizion yet but Sceptile is pretty awesome
>>32330478
Tropical Power beats Deo/Reun decks
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Already bought all sexpacks and have enough for two quads, should I?
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>corner a guy and leave only his whimsi and leafeon on field

>leafeon proceeds to put EVERYTHING on the field to sleep one by one

holy FUCK, not even greninja hit his gold, for fucks sake

and i had to push the goalie to try and kill it cause otherwise the whimisicott would just help surround
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>Tfw I have Trevenant and two Phantumps too

This gym is going to be fun
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>>32329169
fuse the ho-ohs, one into the 50 and the other into 100. 51 can kill mews
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>>32329314
don't do it anon
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>>32330725
yes, fuck it
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>Tentacle Barrage doesn't actually work with Toxic/Noxious
ebin
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>tfw lost ~100 points testing random bullshit on league
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>>32331613
Use Room Matches lad
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Are poisoned and noxious different
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>>32331670
Poison reduces your opponents attack by 20, Noxious by 40
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I have
>>32330585
>>32330592
Emolga poliwag and Deino
What should I use?
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>>32331757
Poliwag
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What's the deal with the material exchange menu? How do you get certain pokemon to appear on the selection?
>>
>>32331785
I meant for a team
>>
>Low masters ranked players before Sexpacks
Usually easy points, only decent teams that you can eventually beat even if luck doesn't go your way

>Low masters ranked after Sexpacks
6EX demon spawns that get every spin they need and steal 3 matches worth of your points
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>wake up
>open purple booster
>get grovyle
>get gem bonus
>open quad
>virizion
>sceptile
>fusion fodder
>open sex
>moltres
>zapdos
>mew
>fusion fodder
>wake up again
>it was just a dream
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>>32331933
I dreamt I was on the Ellen Show last night. Pretty weird experience

Hope you can pull those figures tho anon
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>>32331961
only the purple booster grovyle was real
pretty good figure, thinking of replacing it with magmortar or lucario
i wish good pulls upon you too, anon
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Got 3000 in materials.

Which of the new grass figures should I get?
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>>32332135
you need 4k materials

3k only applies to EXs that are part of a set (Reshiram/Zekrom and the Deoxys) or are shit aka Snorlax
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>>32332135
Virizion, Sceptile, or Venusaur. Don't get Trevenant unless you have a full Grass team already.
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>Buy quad, hoping for Virizion or Sceptile
>My THIRD Ghastly from second box
>FUCK
>Greninja from last box

Well shit, I might have to swap out Torterra. Or Kirlia, even. He seems like he'd be good at dealing with Shuppets.
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>>32332135
Sceptile, Zapdos if you don't have one (but you can just pull it from sex anyway)
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Dark Energy sucks
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>>32332219
Dark Energy is still pretty good
>>
this game sucks

game more like GAY
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>>32332219
>>32332229
I think when dark gets a gym it'll be even better with the introduction of more viable figures.

Greninja is pretty serviceable but yveltal is kinda meh
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>>32332219
I like it. Just got a 2nd Greninja so I might run Gren/Gren/Yveltal (currently only using it with 2 setters)

Yveltal is obviously a bad matchup against Zapdos, Moltres and Gyara but having tropical+dark is really neat against Reuniclus and Deoxys teams

Wish my Yveltal wouldn't job so much though.
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>get another Mawile, enough to Clvl1 the one i'm rising
>fuse them

>right now I'm fusing stuff
>my +1 Mawile isn't in it's place, only the other 2 unleveled ones I'm also saving

did I somehow sell it? It WAS locked though
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>>32332327
Yveltal is both great and also benefits from Tropical
Umbreon is a staple in Poison teams, which are currently Tier 1
Drapion is also serviceable in a Poison team
You already mentioned Greninja

And while certainly not meta, Tyranitar, Absol, Weavile, Liepard, Hydreigon, and Shiftry are all great budget options that can be combined with the above.

Also, we already know what the Dark Gym reward is going to be, so it's up to the booster to give us the good stuff.
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>>32332359
I used the exact same set up (2 frogs, 1 bacon) and the team jobbed really hard compared to my old generic EX spam + Shuppet.

Waste of 72 gems desu.
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>>32332412
Looks like a slightly better Mewtwo
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>>32332442
And a worse Delphox, minus the Wait
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>>32332412
>>32332470
So how will Darkrai be buffed when the Dark gym comes around
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>ever since the Delphox buff i've made them activate their ability without killing them at all

god damn, what are the odds?
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>>32332442
Yeah, early figures really loved their push-back-and-wait mechanics.

Here are the two unreleased Water EXs in the game as well, unless I have brain damage and Feraligatr's always been there. Kyogre's probably going to be a gym reward like Groudon, so Feraligatr's probably going to be in the booster. Neither have an ability, so I'd guess Feraligatr will get Speed Booster?

Don't forget Manaphy exists. 140 damage Hydro Pump would have been great against Deoxys and Reuniclus.

>>32332481
Darkrai honestly seems pretty okay right now. 70 is on-curve for 2MP, it has a solid purple that's comparable to Delphox, and it has a pretty good and unique ability.
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>>32332481
>dark leave replaced with dark void
>dark void 3*: magmortar's flame gun but puts opponent to sleep instead of knocking them out
>night shade turns into a 80 or 100 damage move
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>>32332412
I've pulled Yveltal and Greninja recently, and already have Shiftry, Tyranitar and Umbreon. I might actually be able to do well in that Gym.

>YFW people throw in Sylveon teams and win anyway
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>>32332544
watch out for keldeo teams
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>>32332633
I have a Keldeo too. I'm not using any of those Currently, though. I have 3 Fucking Zapdos and don't know what to do with the 2 I don't have on my team.
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>>32332544
Dark/bug is the way to go.
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>>32332420
Are you me? I used ex spam + shuppet before I pulled my Yveltal and Gren and switched to Dark Energy. I really like playing with it though desu, it's fun to wreck Deoxys
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>>32333090
My problem with Dark Energy is that it's incredibly specialized. It's made to counter exactly two types of decks, outside of that it's almost completely useless since not many run more than 1 psychic or ghost type (usually Mew or Shuppet, who aren't used for attacking).

It reminds me of a time when I still used to go to smogon forums and people would parrot an incredibly annoying opinion that [insert niche Pokemon] is only good for countering [insert overpowered mon], except this time it's actually totally fucking true.
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>>32333255
lol I also used to use Smogon, guess we are the same person.

I wouldn't say Dark Energy is completely useless outside of Deo/Reun. It's definitely not very useful and takes up a plate slot, but that plate slot is already objectively warranted because of how good Dark Energy is vs one of the most powerful decks in Deoxys (and to an extent Reuni) builds. If I can throw an Yveltal or Gren in front of a Metagross because of Dark Energy, that's still pretty damn useful in a neutral matchup even if it's not substantial.

The fact that Dark Energy is immense in some battles and that I don't suffer too much from building it into my team (Greninja and Yveltal are really not all that bad even without Dark Energy) is enough to make it worth using imo. It's not like having to run outright garbage like Cresselia or RestTalk Gyarados to counter Landorus in Gen 5/6 OU when it was tearing shit up.
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>>32333255
That's the same problem with the Grass update. But at least with Tropical, it also removes status conditions so even in a dead matchup it's a Full Heal for your whole board.

Deoxys and Reuniclus are still Tier 1 figures so you can get good mileage off a 1-cost plate.
And at the very least, you can use it against multi-type Psychic/Ghost Pokemon that fit into other energy decks.

We also haven't actually gotten a Psychic Energy plate yet, so when that inevitably hits, you can dust off Dark Energy.
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Greetings, Pokemon Duel players. We here at Nintendo hope you are all enjoying the game. I have an announcement to make about the upcoming patches.

You may have noticed that Flying types have gotten a lot of usage recently, and we took it upon ourselves to balance the metagame based on this. I'd like to announce a new plate:

>Stealth Rock
Any opposing Flying types that go on your entry point will faint

Initially, our update will contain some new figures, of which I'll reveal two. These figures are very important for countering the broken Dark Energy users, as well as Grass Types

>Terrakion EX:
Justice Buster 4-Star purple, KOs one of your opponent's dark type Pokemon on the field, in addition to an 150 white Close Combat

>Cobalion EX:
New ability 'Lawnmower' gives Cobalion EX +30 damage to his attacks for each of your opponent's grass type figures. He also has a Purple 'Energy Reflect' which disables all of your opponent's energy effects other than Cosmo Energy, in addition to a 131 damage white Flash Cannon

Finally, we've re-introduced Onix into Quad Packs with a 1/2 pull rate in the 'guaranteed R/EX' slot, to make sure that everyone has a chance to get him.

We hope you continue to enjoy Pokemon Duel!
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>killing a steel type with big bite doesn't let you evolve
wtf
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>>32333797
Report that shit, the game still has a lot of bugs
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>>32332412
>Umbreon is a staple in Poison teams, which are currently Tier 1

Why exactly? Mean explaining? I have three Umbreon I was almost going to fuse them together because why not some days ago.
What's the main core?
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>>32333736
SR wouldn't be bad if it ended your turn and you could drop them on any point of the map where a pokémon of yours is currently standing, they also go away after they kill something or a rock type passes on them.
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>>32333797
>not enough steel types to justify running Aron
Big Bite is such a cool move, but the only steel type I ever see is Genesect and I haven't even seen more than a couple of those since Mew got buffed.
>>32333818 is right, definitely a bug.
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>>32332412
>Poison teams
>currently Tier 1
Explain your reasoning for saying this.
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Have you ever set up your opponent to make a stupid ass move not expecting them to do it, but then the madman fucking does it? What an interesting turn of events.
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>>32330428
Also wondering about this, but I don't have Grovyle
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>>32334325
>be shitter
>not know if that counts as surround or win
>test it out
We've all been there
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>>32334127
It's a 3MP Pokemon that inflicts Noxious.

>What's the main core?
Venusaur, Weezing, Umbreon, Crobat, normally paired with Ho-oh and something good like Zapdos or Mew.
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>>32334325
>Have you ever set up your opponent to make a stupid ass move not expecting them to do it, but then the madman fucking does it?

Literally Long Throw: The Plate
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>>32334347
Yeah I did it with a hurdle jump once. But that was well before I broke into 1700. And certainly not with a figure that would leave the game entirely if it backfires. Because I don't have one of those.
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>>32334325
I've had the opposite, I've thrown away games I had in the bag because I forget the opponent has Counter Attack and I block wrong.
At really high levels too.
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>Dear players, because of some complaints over the Random elements in Pokemon Duel, we have decided to replace the classic "spinning" mechanic with a menu so you can choose whatever move you want.
>Instead of a wedge-size, each move instead has a Stamina cost, so be careful not to pick too many strong moves or you'll run out.
>We believe making Pokemon duel a game without luck will make it a truly masterful strategy game, please enjoy!
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>>32334655
It's the opposite for me, once I see Counter Attack it's pretty plain to see the guy is obviously neglecting to defend his end. Makes things quite predictable.
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>>32334756
luck? statistics is a science my dork.
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>>32334858
I'm just dumb and by the time I'm three turns from a 'guaranteed victory' I forget all about what cards the opponent has.
Checking manually takes so fucking long I try to memorize them as the match is starting.
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>>32330428
>>32334335
Grovyle isn't that important. The only difference it makes is letting Sceptile tie with Zapdos if it doesn't get the second Leaf Blade, or letting the gold tie Runners (and beat Mew, but if you evolve Leaf Blade will no longer beat Hyper Sonic on one spin). And while those are two of the best figures in the game, it's hard to justify jumping through a hoop just for that.

Besides that, both Virizion and Sceptile are extremely similar.
Sceptile has a blue, but Virizion's purple lets you swap which is arguably better than jumping and Virizion can MP move over things anyways.
Grass Knot beats the current meta, but it's tiny and double Leaf Blade does the same thing but safely.
Sceptile comes with a gold to beat Confuse Ray, Deoxys D, and other purples.

Just take that into consideration and compare what you need with the rest of your team.
Or just run both.
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>>32334970
I actually think the 100 Leaf Blade is huge if you theoretically had a lot of C Lv on it, considering you could beat Zapdos, Virizion, Reun Brain Linkx2 and Yveltal. Plus 40 quick attack is damn nice

However I think evolution is way too costly to try to implement your team and attempt all the time, even with all the Mew running around. I'll take always having a solid Sceptile over sometimes having an amazing Sceptile
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I have no idea what move should I upgrade in virizion, the 3 are useful.
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>>32335127
Do you already have a Pokemon that can hit for more than 100, such as Moltres, Deoxys, Reuniclus, or Sceptile? Then don't level Sword of Justice.

Do you already have an answer to Deoxys, Reuniclus, and Sceptile? Then don't level Grass Knot.

Do you already have a solid amount of purples on your team to the point of being liable to Mew or Zapdos sweeps? Then don't level Typhoon Slash.
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>>32335127
To me, the fact that I can fly over Pokemon and contest goal in one battle with an attack that beats any white seems crazy good

Purple makes you Gold bait but if you're smart you just pick your matchups amd avoid Mew, Gren, Zap. The fact that you can potentially cheese an entire game in one fight with Typhoon is huge tho still.
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Fuck this game, i should have saved for my 5th sex pack
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>>32335235
You'd just get a Mewtwo anyway
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>>32334970
>>32335092
Yeah, I think sceptile is fucking awesome, but a super-shuppet in Virizion for the gym is enticing. Sceptile seems like it'll let me longer in the current meta.

Thanks anons.
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>>32335313
Just get both
Buy the 900 gems bundle in the shop if you haven't, it's a fucking steal
If gems were always this price, I would be a whale
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holy shit, why i'm so shit today, i got my 10 keys box from losing match after match
the worst part is that i can't even complain about deoxys teams because i didn't even saw one
two of the my most embarrasing loses were blocking leafeon with a grass pokemon without realizing that it could walk through it, and then when i tried to kill it it got a dodge, and the other one was this guy just making his way through with a Lucario, a fucking lucario that got the best rolls and just killed a Yveltal, a virizion and a mew and then just walked into my goal.
i don't know what's wrong with me today, i lost over 250 ranting and my team isn't even that bad...
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>>32335345
rating*
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>>32335345
The other day I forgot the Eevees get 3MP and set myself up to get a figure surrounded and that set up Moltres to soar right onto my goal a couple turns later. Sometimes you make mistakes and lose, but most of the time you just fucking play the game and gamble and lose.
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>>32335325
Already bought the $8 gem pack, would rather not buy more. I'll stick with Sceptile and cross my fingers to get a Virizion in a timed box or something
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stealth hit so fucking good right after using a hurdle jump
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This has probably been asked before, but I'm trying to decide on buying Sceptile or Verizon

This is my current team (lacking a solid deo counter, however once people start building more tropical energy decks I would drop reun and build one myself

Which figure would be best?
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>pull a quad and a six pack because I'm severely lacking in good things
>6 pack came with Xerneas and 5 worse figs
>Quad came with none of the new figures
>Tropius and Cottonee as grass types
>2 ghost damage increasing plates and 2 confuse heals
At least I got my 4th EX and it's actually almost viable. Too bad I now have 3 Sliggoo and 4 Vibrava with the dragon gym long since over.
And two Gastly. And four Onix.
Also I'm back to 1250 gems after collecting a couple day's worth of login rewards that were in my inbox. Should I buy one more of each?
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>>32336128
If you're lacking in good EXs it's in your best interest to buy sexpacks instead of the shiny new toy. Quads are also here until around early May btw
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>>32336121
Sceptile
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>>32336128
Just go for the sexpacks until you get enough meta figures you'll be satisfied with (Greninja, Metagross, Mew, Moltres, and Zapdos). New EXs from the Quads are just a luxury
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>>32336163
>>32336174
I'm not sure what to make of this. 4 Sliggoo now, 3 Poliwag, that would be 4 Natu too.
950 gems, will probably have to use more later.
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>>32334756
I actually want this change desu
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What can I make out of this? Pulled venusaur from an orange box a few hours ago
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>>32336524
>>32336524
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>>32336524
>>32336531
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>>32336534
IMHO Venusaur, Lugia, Empoleon, Emolga (bring the Double Chance chance plate), Pikachu R and maybe Squirtle (goalie) until you get something better from the sex packs
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New

>>32336712
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>>32336717
Thanks, we would have died if we waited for the thread to close
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