>Lucario >Piplup >Incineroar I thought this was just

>>32273182
>Return to Kanto
>remove the best parts of Kanto

My brain can't process this stupidity

>>32273182
>tfw piiplooop

>>32273182
I thought this was just going to be a nostalgia wankfest but now it just looked like an unfocused mess. It's also opening up way too many doors for just being a single movie. Are all the movies going to take place in their own timeline now?

>>32273182
>tfw Ho-Oh has no voice actor

>>32273182
Satoshi is a Cute Girl

>>32273182
Don't like the Lucario but the rest are okay

>>32273182
Can't say im super excited for it (didn't watch any Pokemon movie since Zoroark), but today this just turned from "definitely skip" to "might watch".

As someone who grew up with the original season and liked Brock and Misty, I'm honestly glad they made this decision. I ignored this movie initially because watching a retelling of the same story just sounded really uninteresting. I wonder if they'll include the multiverse/alternate timelines thing

>>32273199
No you dumbass, it's literally just a retelling of the first season with a twist. If they just reanimated the first season, it would be lame.

You are still going to see the best moments of the first season like Ash catching Charmander, Butterfree evolving, gym battles, etc. But the plot isn't mainly about Ash trying to become Pokemon Master, it's Ash finally meeting Ho-Oh again.

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>>32273182
>thought it was a nostalgia wankfest
>it's just a convoluted way of connecting Alola and Kanto together while also letting the viewers know that DP remakes are on the way

I'm surprised they didn't add a Serena guest appearance into the mix, just to milk a little more out of the shippers.

>>32273182
I don't think I'm being nitpicky but Ash's companion are so goddamn generic.

I feel more effort when into Duel's NPCs

>piplup

HAHA, EVEN GAMEFREAK KNOWS THAT EMPOLEON IS THE BEST STARTER
WHERE ARE MONKEYFAGS AND TURTLEFAGS NOW? HAHAHAHAHA

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Who is this semen demon?

>>32273255
But anon, the anime has only ever shilled Piplup because they know that Empoleon is vastly inferior

>>32273261
Thought it was Shoko at first

Nips look too much alike man

>>32273255

Only Piplup

Back during DP, one staff member said that Prinplup and Empoleon are ugly and unsuitable for Contests

>>32273182
Dawn and Aaron look so weird now.

>Marshadow already

Wow either those "Gen VIII happening very fast" rumors are true or they're taking the ORAS exclusive Megas shit to the next level

>>32273255
Piplup is by far the most popular stage among all nine Sinnoh starter Pokemon, if we're talking only final stages it's Infernape, but Piplup individually shits all over Infernape

>>32273182
there he go again fursona of great shillings

>>32273182
Yfw when Diaper remakes confirmes

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>>32273247
it all comes together

>Movie ends with Ash sitting with his classmates in Alola
>The whole movie was Ash telling them about his first journey

>>32273239

Plenty of animes re do seasons in movies with extra footage or somewhat retold

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>livid that brock and misty have been retconned because i like them
>yet understand why it's a valid and healthy decision to remove them for the sake of movie quality
I don't know how I'm supposed to feel.

>>32273376
Would be surprised if this is how it ended considering no Brock or Misty tagging along. They could just stay as gym leaders in the movie or a time skip to him later in the Kanto region

>Lucario and memepenguin
Dropped.

>Talking Marshadow

gay

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>>32273342
>Diaper
(you)

>>32273271

Fool! That IS Shoko!

>>32273182
>being a sinnohfetus
>2017

>>32273190
That's because Ash is getting his band back together. You're seriously underestimating GENWUN POWAAA.
>Charmander
>Squirtle
>Bulbasaur
>Pikachu
>Pidgeotto
>Butterfree.
ALL GO TO THE LEAGUE.

>>32273182
Why am I not surprised that genwun-hating /vp/ would love this.

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>>32273993

Actually it seems that Butterfree will still be released, and Lapras and Gengar will replace Butterfree and Pidgeotto

>>32273261
Forget her who's the cum dumpster voicing the Lucario Shota?

>>32273993
>Charizard evolves normally this time
>Butterfree doesn't go away
>Pidgeot stays
>Squirtle evolves to Wartortle
>Bulbasaur goes all the way to Venusaur
>Pikachu learns volt tackle early

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its old man red

>>32274038
Holy shit the leaf on his hat, how did I not notice before.

>>32274017
gengar wont do shit
hes just the golden child of gen 1

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>>32273182
That old guy seems familiar...

>>32273247
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

>>32273182
Can they put my OC in the movie too?

>>32274038
>>32274169
Interesting, I've noticed he most likely has a Mega bracelet.
Maybe it's Origins Red?

>>32274038
Ugh, thiccc

>implying that Sinnoh isn't currently at the peak of wanktunity

>>32273182
>>32274169
>Young Red has a green leaf
>Old dude has brown leaf
I think it's symbolic, since when leaves die they turn brown
Grandpa Red is finally canon

>>32273255
No, it's Piplup who is the best. Not Empoleon, just Piplup

Piplup is ridiculously marketable and cute

>>32273346
I wish his insane theories were actually right, It makes me sad anon

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>>32273182
WHAT THE FUCK

>>32273182
I like the new Gary, new Brock and Misty look like shit though.

Is the Incineroar trainer supposed to be new-Gary?

>>32273239

The charmander part is kind of confusing since trailer doesn't show who is catching it. It's weird since Ash's glove isn't shown when catching Charmander. They might do a different story of catching Charmander instead I guess.

>>32274038
It says Bonjii, not Red asshole.

>>32273182

this is old red...

>>32273182
>piplup
>lucario
>ho-oh
>no misty and brock
finally a pokemon anniversary product that isn't a kanto wankfest.

>>32274427
Same cap, fagget

>>32273182
FUCKING LUCARIO GET OUT OF MY FRANCHISE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32274427
It's his real name faggot.

>>32274427
because parent's would really call their son 'red'

Bonji is Red's Father,
Bonji is Red's Father,
Bonji is Red's grandfather?

>>32274958
Plot twist: Bonji is red, and also his own grandfather

>>32273182
inb4 Charizard shits on Lucario, Tiger and Ho-Oh

>>32273182
>rival is just another cosplayers again
The fucking anime team needs to get good at design character. At least the sidekicks don't look shit.

>>32274017
>Butterfree steamrolls Sabrina with Sleep Powder, Bug Buzz and Quiver Dance

I'd love to see Butterfree finally do shit outside of fucking gust and powders.

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>>32274965

>>32273261
Chong Dong Fong a Long

>>32275008
He looks nothing like Incineroar. He looks more like a Gary that never got a haircut.

>>32275055
Yeah! And Alan didn't look anything like Zard X! Shota didn't look like Sceptile! Manon didn't look like Chespin! It's all just retards imaging things!

>>32273261
Chun-Li

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>>32273557
Why is it valid and healthy to remove them? Brock was a main character for most of the anime's existence and Misty was influential.

Is it because they were both gym leaders?

>>32275062
There is nothing about Shota that screams Sceptile. Manon and Alain were literally cosplay trainers.

This Cross guy and Incineroar do not resemble one another. If you can point out the cues then I'll be inclined to agree.

>>32273182
BASED

>>32275055
Red and black color scheme with overgrown hair, a fucking cross on forehead, exposed arms from dark colored shirt isn't enough for you? Alan gets called Zard cosplayer for less. He just had the color scheme and the scarf.

And look at Shota and Mega Sceptile side by side. You can't say that his vast isn't supposed to be Sceptile's chest leaves. He, again, shares the same color scheme too. The anime is shit with original character designs. They're always just cosplayers.

>>32275125
>red and black
okay
>overgrown hair
..okay
>a fucking cross on forehead
really reaching it here bro
>exposed arms from dark colored shirt isn't enough for you
Yeah no

Fuck off. Why would he be the only one who is a cosplayer trainer?

>>32275144
Incinceroar has a red colored cross on forehead and a "shirt" that exposes arms. This man does too. This guy even has the same eye as Incineroar. You have to be blind to say I'm reaching here. This is pretty much a Gijinka at this point. If you're going to say this one isn't a cosplayers, never call Alan one again too, because he has even less going for him. The scarf is actually a scarf, not shit coming out of his mouth.

And I have my doubts about "the only one", but might be the case. Even if it is the only one, it is one.

>>32275168
That is in no way a cross. The only thing cross about Incineroar is that it can learn Cross Chop

>>32275185
The Roman torture device isn't the only kind of cross

>>32275185
Ashnime apologists. Defending a non-issue by being retarded. Nothing new to see here.

>>32275125
Not that anon but I have no idea how you think Shota resembles anything Sceptile besides green, whereas they don't even share the same shade of green. Mega Sceptile's chest cross resembles Shota's vest? Anon stop it.

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>>32273190
neither can mine

>>32275234
>Alan has black and blue color scheme, and a scarf meant to represent flame coming out of mouth
>FUCKING COSPLAYER
>Shota has green and brown color scheme, with a vest made to look like like the chest leaves on Mega Sceptile
>Anon, stop it

>Mewtwo Island Adventure gets remade as well
>Sasugay's Lucario gets cloned
>Clone Lucario added to the games with Dragon Ascent or some stupid shit

>>32275220
The thing on Incineroar's head isn't a cross though, that's retarded. It's the alchemy sign for sulfur. Sure you can say it looks like a cross but then you have to point out that Cross' hair is actually an x cross, not the same one as Incineroar's, or even trying to be it. They don't look alike. The ripped sleeves shirt thing, sure, but other than that you guys are really reaching.

>>32275251
First off, both Regular Sceptile and Mega Sceptile scheme of green is in no way alike Shota's, besides maybe the tree/cross. Other than that, where do you see brown on either of them? Where do you see orange? There is nothing about Shota that has anything to do with Sceptile besides having green clothes. Stop being retarded.

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>>32275251
The vest looks nothing like Mega Sceptile's leaves.

>>32275251
Alain is literally Zard X gijinka though. They both share the exact same blue and black color scheme. The puff of hair on his hair is the flame on the tip of Charizard's tail. He literally has a fucking scarf to resemble the flames coming out of Charizard's mouth. Like what the fuck.

Shota is just a regular trainer who is green cuz his signature Pokémon is fucking green. That's it.

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>>32273247
[IT ALL COMES TOGETHER]

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>>32275324
If all the similarities in pic related aren't enough for you, but only the two similarities between Alan and Zard are enough, I give up. I'm actually sorry. Not being sarcastic. I thought this was obvious with just one look, but apparently, it wasn't obvious enough.

>>32275291
Yes, and Alan's scarf looks like flames coming out of mouth, right? It's a carbon copy. The shape, the area, everything is a perfect copy.

>>32275425
Now this is what you call autism.

Thank you, anon. I can go to sleep now.

>>32275433
>I'll call it autism! That'll show him! Yeah!

>>32275434
What was the light blue one supposed to even mean? Does Sceptile's legs look brown to you?

>>32275425
why did you circle his dick?

>>32275439
>>32275441
It's supposed to show the green color on Shota to match Sceptile's. Shota has a greener skin, but if that isn't green enough, his shorts definitely are.

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>>32273255
Piplup is literally the Gen IV equivalent to Gen VII's Rowlet: Both had incredibly popular first stages that completely overshadowed their Final Stages. Snivy most likely fits this category too.

The only gens where a Final Stage is the most popular one of the bunch are Gen I, Gen III and Gen VI. A base stage being popular doesn't guarantee that its final stage will be as popular too.

>>32273330
>or they're taking the ORAS exclusive Megas shit to the next level
Honestly I could see this happening. Mythicals aren't exactly ever required to finish the dex. They could just as easily keep another couple hidden in the DP remakes or whatever is coming next.

>>32273182
Is this going to be basically a retcon for SM Ash? What's the point of this?

>>32275439
I'm not the guy who made it, but it looks like it's pointing out that Shouta's shorts are meant to reflect Sceptile's bulging upper legs and skinnier lower legs.

>>32273182
Okay so.....does this take place between the Kanto and Johto seasons?

Seriously what is ging on?

>>32277686

Most likely semi-retcon of the anime history.

>Ash says in XY that he knows a Piplup (pretty much the only continuity reference in the entirety of XY)
>Never says the name of its trainer

>>32275168
>The scarf is actually a scarf, not shit coming out of his mouth.
I don't know why this made me laugh so much. I'm just imagining an alternate Alan design where he wore some weird blue cloth coming out the sides of his mouth the whole way through XY.

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>>32275168

Yeah no

Cross barely looks like Incineroar. Alain pretty much is an Edgezard Gijinka. All he's missing are the red eyes.

>>32273182
>Gen IV Pokemon
>Not Gen VII
It's like they're teasing the fanbase with DP remakes

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>>32273261
Shoko Nakagawa

>>32277932

>Not Gen VII

>Incineroar and Marshadow are there too

What did he mean by this

I'm legitimately worried about the future of pokemon
-is this a permanent retcon?
-will gen 8 be this timeline too or go back to the original?
-if gen 8 goes back to the original timeline, will gen 7 pokemon seem new to them too or will they completely skip past what happens to ash in that timeline?

>>32278060
It's just an AU movie.

>>32278080
and sun and moon is an AU season. nobody knows if they'll continue in this timeline or go back to the other one.

>>32278080
What makes you so sure it's AU, not a retcon?

>>32273182
>it's only ok if it's my nostalgia

Why are teens who grew with the ds games so autistic? Genwunners were cunts, but they were also a normie majority. But DS babies are few and always extremely whiny and dumb.

They are as bad as Paper Mario fags, in fact Gamecube is full of autistic teens whining about anything that's not their nostalgia.

Was there anything in the water during Gamecube and DS days that made all pisskids of them retarded? Did I escaped this retardation merely by growing with SNES instead?

>>32278107
The fact that the new characters are played by stunt cast celebrities makes it pretty obvious we're never going to see them again. They were made specifically for the movie in order for their names to fill more seats.

>>32274038
>inb4 its Ash grandpa

>>32273182
I really don't know about this. I mean if they're going to cut out Brock and Misty as anything but Gym-Leaders, then Ash should be travelling alone with just Pikachu, not some new guys.

>>32273182
>movie with a maybe-interesting concept surrounded by blatantly obvious shilling of the upcoming game/legendary Pokemon releases which distract from the movie itself
So basically instead of being a nostalgia wankfest it's been made to be more similar to the other 19 movies.

>>32273376
>"I mean I think I'm forgetting a couple things, but I definitely remember a snarky Piplup and a kid my age with a really strong Lucario that gave even Pikachu problems"

>>32275414

Not-Gary's necklace has the RKS symbol.

>>32278343
>BONJI
>A researcher that has chased after Houou for a long time. The author of "My Life is Houou".

Nope

>>32273376
>>32278409
This would be a hilarious twist but you know it's too clever to be thought of by the people who write the Pokemon anime.

What's Old Man Red's name?

>>32277816
New timeline is probably M20>BW>XY>SM.

With the BW last episode photo of all his pokemon still in continuity.

>>32278423
see >>32278419

>>32278425
I mean, he's wearing his original outfit (albeit redesigned) in the movie, and one of the distributions is for Pikachu in the different hats he's worn. Unless the movie montages Ash in a bunch of different outfits catching like 60 Pokemon I don't think that makes a lot of sense.

>>32278419
It's obviously Ash from another universe that got lost in a dimensional wormhole to guide another Ash on his journey to find Ho-Oh

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Ways to make the movie even more of a shillfest

>Lillie

>>32277416
>Both had incredibly popular first stages that completely

So your referring to litten then, because the last time I checked, incineroar wasn't even the second most loved gen7 starter,

And what's with this stupid lie that Decidueye is way ghost behind rowlet in popularity, he's realy not, he'side neck to neck with rowlet, if not more popular, and at last he's actually closer then incineroar to litten. Sereiosly do you barafags ever think about How stupid you sound very time you say that,
>Oh his first form is way more loved then his final, literally litten and incineroar.

>>32278442

I see what you mean, but imo Ash hat Pikachu is just a tribute to commemorate the anniversary.

Plus in SM ep 1, he mentions his Tauros after he got run over by some.

I think he keeps all his pokemon with maybe some different backstories and possibly new Pokemon if the Gengar theory is true.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like M20 for Hoenn and Sinnoh.

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>>32273261
Poppy Pipopapo

>>32273182
Oh boy, ANOTHER Lucario ace. There just aren't enough trainers who have Lucario as their signature mon.

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>get to bask in the buttmad of genwunners once more

>>32273182
Why the fuck has Gary been replaced by a shitty ginger? Also, as much as I legit like Lucario, they have to stop shilling it. For fucks sake.

At least they stopped shilling out the Kanto starters.

>>32273182
>Piplup

WHYS THERE NO TOTODILE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32278964
>Why the fuck has Gary been replaced by a shitty ginger?

I think they want to separate Ash and Red and have Ash be his own character instead of just Red's anime counterpart like Gary is Blue's.

>>32279004
But that's what they are tho, literally counterparts to Red and Blue.

Also movies are noncanon right?

>yfw Brock is in for like 10 seconds as a gym battle and he says nothing
>yfw Ho-oh gets the shaft for Marshadow

Can someone tell me what the Japs reaction to Misty and Brock shafted is?

>>32279119
>Some of them are shitposting hard and bitching to to Twitter account and on imageboards
>others are trying to start shit with Misty and Brock fans using images of SM girls

>>32273261
kyary pamyu pamyu

>>32279026
>Also movies are noncanon right?

The last few movies all had tie in episodes.

>>32279142
So, same shit as here?

>>32273239
[cineeded tation]

>>32279026

Sometimes they're referenced like meeting Lugia in Johto and mentioning movie 2 as a past experience with one.

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>>32273182
We were so fucking close to getting misty and brock back, why are they being retconned.

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>>32273261
A very sick and twisted woman

>>32273182
Is gen 4 pandering not also nostalgia pandering? I'm with you though. As little as I care for Pokemon's cartoon I care for this movie. Wish they'd remake the Unown movie too. Love Egyptian lore shit

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>>32273255
Oshawott is literally Piplup 2.0
You canneth refute this

I wouldn't have minded a new girl if she was actually cute.

>>32283852
As I said, they should have just used Leaf. Would have been nice to see her animated and she's from Kanto.

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>>32283719
You sure about that?

>>32283866
Mijumaru is too pure for this world.

>>32282919
two nukes really show their result in the most unsuspecting ways

>>32283852
This, nobody likes ugly bald squirrel-face bitches.

>>32273261
She looks so ayylmao-ish

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>>32283882
Slowly she'll gain a fanbase

So if they are going to dump Misty (it takes a while to get to Brock), add new companions and advertise a new legendary, why did they bother keeping Hooh or TR?

They even replaced gary with some faggot and his furbait companion.

>>32284061
Team Rocket are still relevant to the anime.
I do think Ho-oh and the original themesong are odd though. They only people who are going to care about that kind of fanservice would likely be let down by the lack of familiar supporting cast.

>>32284068
Not going to lie, the most offensive thing is the rival.

Gary was entertaining no matter what and was fun. Replace it with a fur trash and some kid with yugioh hair? No thanks.

Why did they add in literal nobodies in this ?

>>32273182
has anyone translated the black text in marshadow's character profile? i'm interested to know what it says.

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>>32284178
Literally the OP pic of the anime general.

>what if we pander to nostalgia but we remove the iconic party members and add new ones that look ugly, and add in a plot with HoOh for some reason even though children dont know about that and genwunners care more about Brock and Misty.
>Also put in Inciniroar instead of a decent looking Pokemon to advertise worst gen

>>32284170
It's so fucking weird. I really do not know how to answer that.

>>32280749
They arent being retconned you spazz. It's just a non canon movie.

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>>32273261
Shoko "Frogposter Fucka" Nakagawa

>>32285576
I love her.

>>32284028
There's already good art of these guys wtf?!