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Best Girl Edition.

New? Check the pastebin for advice on getting started with PTCGO, deck building tips, current metagame information and more
>http://pastebin.com/AK9ZJksJ (embed)

You can also check this FAQ (it's a bit outdated but mostly holds true):
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg (embed)

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games) to get 45 free packs
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

>WHAT THEMEDECK SHOULD I BUY
Buy the fucking Incineroar one

Deck Building resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-four/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. Top Cut & other big trading companies will typically overprice cards, expect to get lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text, bots may snatch them, don't post uncovered QRs, bots may snatch them
>Standard etiquette is to take one code per dump per person
>Always post your pulls

Old thread: >>32246388
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>best girl
>not AZ 2.0
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A girl has started attending my LGS regularly
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Tott: NEW FA SUPPORTER HYPE

What are you hoping will be the next FA supporter, or if it's already revealed what is your thoughts about it?
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>>32270826
>Best Girl Edition
That's not Acerola or Plumeria.
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>>32270826
I want to sniff her armpits
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>>32270898
A full art Guzma or Lusamine would be nice.
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>Hoopa ladder

Someone find the full art. It's probably Steven.
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>>32270999
Nice trips, is it scoundrel ring hoopa.
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>>32271007
>>32270999
FULL ART N

IT HAPPENED
CHECK THE HOMESCREEN
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Scoundrel Ring Hoopa and N.
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>miss Giovanni by 20 points
>Having deck troubles with a new meme I'm working on
>Humble monthly is shit
>At least I have my weekly pack to look forward to today!
>Skips giving me my pack

Who the fuck do I email about this, I am actually mad.
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>>32271109
Pic unrelated obviously
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>>32271109
Stop being mad full art N ladder
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>>32271099
damn nigger they're really going all out this month after having two months with useless cards.
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>2 ultraballs at first reward

Yeah its not like a new player has 4 of these already from the stock decks.
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>>32271323
well considering the FA is the most valuable one out there, the t1/2 reward ex is basically a must have for every player's collection and the crobat line is pretty good you can't complain.
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>playing Gard for Fairy/Psychic challenge
>4 matches in a row Hoopa start and the other is prized

So fucking tedious.
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>>32271323
ikr senpai? what absolute pricks.
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>Shaymin
>2 Energy
>VS Seeker
>Super Rod
>Lysandre
>Trainer's Mail for 4 non draw cards

Every game. Fun.
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I WANT LISTS
LISTS OF GARCHOMP DECKS
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Really getting sick of getting the same exact dead start and watching my opponent spend 10 minutes playing every card in their deck because I never go first.
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Oh boy 3 stadiums in a row and I'm stuck. Thanks Shaymin. Really glad I always get the best shuffling.
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>>32270826
is this also the daily olivia thread?
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>>32272931
No. Go make your own thread.
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>play N
>draw 6 dead cards

Every fucking time. They're always the same ones too.
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>>32274039
certainly not rigged. not at all.
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>Everybody shitting themselves about N fa
>I'm just happy that I already got Hoopa EX
u faggots are never fucking humble
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>>32274039
Your loss for playing vespiqueen
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>>32270826
How many decidueye gx do I need to starting making an actual deck?
I don't have forest yet
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>>32274128
3 preferably 4 it's unplayable without a playset of forests
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>>32274120
I've actually dead drawn all 4 games I played today and only got a chance to attack in 1 of them.

Booked and uber to a bridge.
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>>32274039
>>32272655
could be worse
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>>32274322
I thought that guy's avatar was some kind of black Pepe at first.
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>>32274322
Well a couple of turns later I drew into a Sycamore and had to get rid of all my VS seeker+Revitalizer and that was also the only special charge I had that wasn't prized while my opponent was an energy denial deck.
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Is there any way to build a decent only-evolutions deck? Don't have to be top-tier but something playable
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>>32275929
only if youre also going against evolutions-only deck
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>>32275929
beedrill meme is probably your best bet
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>>32276145
Could you spoonfeed me?
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>>32275929
Ninetales Break is a decent deck of its own. Unless you want every single card to come from EVO then no that is stupid.
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>>32276168
just read the card, it's obvious how you make a list with it. FOGP+revitalizers

of course I assume you're using trainers from other sets because evo only with only evo trainers is just horrific dogshit.
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>>32274322
>poor little pew guy
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>>32276145
I've tried it way back. It's extremely unreliable.

Yanmega BREAK is far stronger. But not EVO.

You'd think Base Set cards would still be relevant if you just simply update the attacks to have more power or something, but no.
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>>32270826
She look like a lady boy
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>>32277283
yeah, it's literally shitty passmemeian but if you want a deck with only EVO pokes, it's mandatory.

What pissed me off the most about EVO as a set is that it didn't even hint at the haymaker cards being good. They should have made Hitmonchan a 120hp big basic with a very energy efficient attack, like 50 for 1 fighting, which would be 70 with a strong energy. Then Special Punch could be like 100 for FCC, hits 130 with FFB and 1 strong energy.

But nah they made it a useless card like every basically every card in that set.
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>>32277903
I see, you wanted the game to be as broken as it was in base set.
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>>32275929
I use that Charizard successfully
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>>32275929
Mpidgeot is a thing but even gyarados does better.
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>haha XD XD well played well played well played
>spends entire turn fapping cards
>times out while he's busy sucking his own cock as hard as a fucking industrial vacuum
>finally get enough energy to knock his shitty Memetwo out
>it was his only card that had energy on it
>wipe his hand

I know you're here reading this you faggot, you deserved what happened to you.
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>>32278939
damn you sure trolled him
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>>32278939
Sometimes i forget i can be talking to kids here
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>>32279176
Next time you're not busy blowing Reddit dick you should work on making a deck that doesn't rely on one card.
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>>32279223
>>32279176
>>32279006
>>32278939
>53 Posts
>26 Posters

Nice samefagging
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>>32279299
What're you going to do about it, huh?
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>>32279299
if only this wasnt a general uh
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>>32270826
I always wanted to start playing this, is it fun enough without spending money?
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>>32279634
Yes if you play tcgo
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>>32279890
What's a cheap ladder deck? Lurantis/Vileplume? Memephlosion?
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>>32279900

Golduck/Starmie, Raichu/Sky Zone until rotation.
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>>32280014
Already have Raticate Break, Golduck, and Passmian, but Passimian sucks, Raticate Break can't win against Grass (aka the meta), and Golduck is getting boring. Will look into Raichu though.
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>>32278021
You're implying that Haymaker would become as broken in today's standards as Owlplume OR M Mewtwo EX.
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I bought four packs of Sun and Moon today and hoping for some good stuff.

I got two shinies.

I am now happy.

Today was a good day.
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>>32280307
Great luck
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Newfag here.

How does "Standard" work? Will Pokemon just randomly make an announcement that everything before the Sun and Moon expansion is illegal and that's the meta for a year?
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>>32280458
Pretty much. The 4-6 oldest sets of the current Standard-legal block rotate out, which makes everything left after that legal. Rotation happens every September usually.
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>>32280458
Once a year 4 main sets are rotated, they have proper thematic now so you can predict everything before BREAKs are rotating.
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>>32280307
Good for you. Best I ever pulled was an SR metal energy.

Plenty of people don't have much luck as you do.
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>it's an opponent takes 2 minutes every single turn episode
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>>32280662
Be grateful that there isn't a chat feature, or else you'd get that "hmmmm" shit every time they take forever
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>>32280698
They only have one fucking move to make every single turn they're just being a little rat asshole.
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>it's a Lurantis/Solgaleo episode
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>>32280515
>>32280546

Thanks, was having a hard time finding a solid answer.

So, what's the best way to play casually with friends on a budget? Different financial situations killed my MtG playgroup years ago. Years later, switching to a "one booster a week" rule helped keep everyone on an even playing field while still cracking good, playable, cards to improve decks. Is something similar possible in Pokemon, or will it lead to too many useless packs?
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What are the meta decks right now?
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>>32281223
espeon donk
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>>32280307
NIiice, amigo!
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>>32270826
do rainbow energies count for Lunala's abillity?
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>>32281754
Yes.
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Some poor son of a bitch's starting hand was 4 Vespiquen and he had to Sycamore all 4 vs my Vileplume.

>every deck on the ladder is Vileplume or Volcanion or the rare Lapras
>if you play anything else you risk autolossing to even slightly bad luck

This meta is pure cancer.
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>>32282213
but those arent the most popular in tournaments
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>>32282244
lol
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Bruxish and Golduck, is it a good combination?
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>>32282410
Bruxish is bad. Pair Golduck with the Evolutions Starmie and Breakthrough Octillery and you have a pretty nice meme/budget deck.
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M Mewtwo,
M Garde
or Solgaleo/Lurantis?
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>>32282481
Volcanion or Decidueye, the rest is not allowed
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Just beat sky field ex heavy volcanion/flareon with latios/forretress 1 shaymin

I'm impressed honestly
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>>32282481
it's not recommendable to use a double Mega. Makes it hard to use, and you'll end up using too much space in spirit links, unless you want to loose a turn
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>>32282481
Are they really the meta decks now?
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>>32282546
None of those decks have a shot at winning a tournament.
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>>32282521
>>32282551
What decks are the strong ones now? Really Volc and Decidueye? Vesp variants?
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I got donked by a fucking Volcanion deck. I'm disappointed with myself.

Maybe donked is not the right term but I did autolose turn 2.
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>>32282559
pretty much.
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>>32282618
I always though M Mewtwo was pretty good. That and any Darkrai deck
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>>32282559
Decidueye
Darkrai
Volc solely because Decidueye is everywhere
Lapras is Volc is heavy in presence but autolosses to Decidueye

Everything else is too iffy.
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>>32282623
use to be, darkrai might get replayable, but GX do changed some stuff, also, rotation.
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So new to the nonbjf pokemon and went to nearby league, surprisingly not the only 20-35 there, went this week... only one amongst a bunch of kids with an older 40+ nonplaying parent. Wtf am I doing with my life?
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What makes Volcanion so strong?

Can anyone give me a rundown of how some of the stronger decks play? Like a general playstyle?
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>>32283359
It flows well, but in general it's actually not that strong. It just is the best at beating Owls since it's everywhere. If Mewtwo were everywhere Gard wouldn't be far behind either.
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>opponant takes over 5 minutes on his first turn
>i put a trubbuish with a float stone down and he immediately concedes
Why fucking waste my time you nigger, i have full art N to get
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Whats with all the latios donk decks?
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>>32283847
Fun and memes. You also win or lose in just one turn.
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>>32283847
Latios was the last ladder reward so everyone has them now that they got two for free. Same thing happened with Darkrai
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Really loving the "all 4 forests are in the bottom 15 cards every game" meme.
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Also loving the whole "never win the opening coin toss, ever" meme after 15 or so games.
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Anyone have tips for building a Bronzong Break deck?
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>>32284199
click bronzong break in deck wizard
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>>32283933

Build a better engine
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>>32283933
>stunfag doesn't get to play stunshit
Oh, you poor little thing.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12705020

WEG = erotic game
help a nigga out
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>>32284323
Voted for Bleach desu
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>have dogshit types you haven't given support in like 4 sets
>still give people missions for them so they have to play these useless decks on ladder

for what purpose
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Any opinions on P-Kyogre after SM 2? I think it could see a resurgence to tier 2 with Mega Turbo/Aqua Patch, Alolan Ninetales, and Lana/Rough Seas.
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>>32285533
Still too slow.

4 energy on a stage 2 pokemon, and the bonus effect can be played around as an EX with a belt needs to be affected twice before it's a problem.

Lapras GX does the bulky water mon thing better and doesn't need links + evolution to hit for 160.

Lapras GX is the pokemon who really won out with aqua patch as it means you can easily turn 2 attack for 160 or 190 with choice band or in an optimal world 210 with Kukui.
Kyogre can't due to links and maxes out at 180 even with Kukui.
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>>32285533
Grass weaknes + 4 energies + Stage 1 = chaos. Groundon is also not used for this reason.
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>>32285586
Groudon isn't use because it doesn't have beach or korina anymore.

If it had Korina or beach it'd probably be usable since you could slap weakness policy since the deck hardly uses links anyways since you draw, attach, use item, pass so damn much.
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>>32283359
The strongest decks are ones that can inflict massive damage quickly. This is done through attacks with damage multipliers (M-Mewtwo, Darkrai, Vespiquen, etc) or abilities that inflict/boost damage (Volcanion, Decidueye etc.). Either way, the more cards you draw the better position you are in so draw power is vital. Disruption is also useful, but you need cheap, heavy damage to be top tier.
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>>32283288
Anon, there plenty of older people who like the game. It's just that it is easy for adults to dismiss it for being "a game for kids" without ever trying to play.
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When you get packs, both locked and tradeable. Is it better to open multiple at one time or does it not matter at all?
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>>32286078
There's no difference
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twitch /utahpokemontcg
Live now
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>>32286386
>twitch /utahpokemontcg
Thanks anon, I needed something to idly watch in the background.
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>>32280592
Normally I don't - it took me 18 packs of Evolutions to get Charizard.
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wait this nigga playing greninja? what month is it?
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>>32287024

Is this standard or expanded? Just tuned in.
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>>32287067
Standart but not top8 yet
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>>32287024
To be fair he made day 2.
But we just saw what happens with greninja a high percent of the time.

You start froakie and nothing else and get donk'd.
RIP Ninjafrog.
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>>32284990
its almost like the guys who design the cards and the devs for the online client are two completely different sets of people.
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Cant see half the cards on right side because of that lighting.
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Utah Top 8:
>Darkrai
>Darkrai
>Darkrai
>Darkrai/Giratina
>Mewtwo
>Volcanion
>Decidueye
>Decidueye
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>he has fucking heart of the cards when you're just trying to get a challenge done
I so with PTCGO would allow you say "I'm doing a challenge!" or something just so I can finish it in like 2 matches and move on instead of getting my ass crammed inside out for 15 matches as I struggle to get the 12 KOs I need.
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>>32288078
>people still think Decidueye is actually good
>people still spam that fucking obnoxious deck on ladder because it's even more braindead than Darkrai to play
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>>32288078
shit i wish i was there, ive been playing lycanroc for the last month. this top 8 looks like a bunch of easy wins.
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>>32288517
yeah but you gotta beat the devidueye decks to get there.
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>>32288526
i can beat decidueyes. seems like a shit matchup but from what ive played it feels pretty even.
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>>32288078

Is Lurantis still good?
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>>32288586
Okay with solgaleo but loses bad to fire, maybe post-rotation will be better(doesnt use fogp anyway).
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>>32288597
idk, I always considered it the more consistent partner in vileplume lock I think Decidueye has shiny new toy syndrome even though they're both new.

I think over time Lurantis will become more prominent, especially in expanded.
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>>32288865
Lurantis/Plume has unfavourable matches to yveltal and volcanion, mewtwo too if he can attach a spirit link before lock. Trevenant will be the superior attacker when SM2 comes.
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volcanion dumpstering is the owl back to the fucking stone age.
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>>32288875
Decidumeme also gets utterly shitstomped by all of those decks until field blower drops.
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>>32288470
>people still think Decidueye is actually good
>implying its not
>implying you know more than the two top 8 players in Utah
>implying you're not a moron spouting trash tier opinions on /vp from your Mom's house
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>>32289079
>getting this mad
Found the stunfag. Sure is nice being able to win without letting the other guy play, huh?
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>>32289079
People were claiming it's a t1 deck archetype when it clearly is not. Bide Barricade Wobbs in particular just ruins that deck.
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>Play against night march
>karen opponent when he has 22 cards left
>plays 3 battle compressors to win

damn lucky
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>>32290989
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>>32290989
Are these official sleeves? How's the quality of these compared to Hyper Mats?
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I miss being able to tell the brainless morons I play against to not take fucking 1 minute per action every fucking turn.
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>>32291000
I want these, if these come statewise I'm buying so much of these.
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You know, just once I would like my opponent to have the kind of start I have every game instead of getting a flawless one. I'm sick of knowing exactly how a game is going to go just from losing the opening coin flip and seeing how bad my hand is.
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>>32291107
they will stick together after about 10 shuffles thanks to your oily fingers.
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>>32291107
>>32291238
however thats why kmc makes these. clear hyper mat sleeves that go over your fancy japanese sleeves
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>>32291107
forgot picture
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>>32291186
>if these come statewise
>implying TCPI ever gives us anything good
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BOY I LOVE GETTING THE EXACT SAME DEAD HAND, FILLED WITH ALL MY VS SEEKERS AND ENERGIES AT ONCE.
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Considering dropping Shaymin. Lately it's either been the only thing I have to start with or Lysandre bait. I love the card, it's amazing, but I feel like it's been hurting more than helping recently.
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>>32270826

something is wrong with this fucking game... too many people getting shit hands
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>Delinquent them to zero
>Sycamore
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>>32291703

so tru... it's fucking the worst bullshit, I fucking hate when opponent have power draw out of it's ass
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>>32291342
I don't use shaymins at all, and I run a M-Audino ex deck.
... and I always use enemy Shaymins as meat for double KO's
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>>32291992
I play Yveltal/Garb. I tend to use Shaymin once if at all before I get Garb set up, and Oranguru has a similar attack to Yveltal, so I could just as easily use it. Oranguru has 10 more HP than Shaymin too
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I'm halfway tempted to buy one of the World Championship decks so I can goldfish and pretend I'm a pro player.

Also I'd just like to add that it's exponentially bullshit on how things like Shyman EX are reprinted in these but you can't use them because lol, different back, even though opaque sleeves are a requirement anyways.
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>>32291286
Much appreciated tip. Thank you.
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>>32292339
it's pretty dumb that the WC reprint Shaymin is like $7 and the real one is $45 even though they're the same card. There was no point in even doing reprints like that if they weren't going to be legal.
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>>32291000
My friend just got me there while he was in japan
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>>32292582
That's because they're glorified proxies. I was tempted to buy a pair for me and my friend because they would allow us to play our favorite decks without spending a lot, and that's more or less the purpose of these kind of decks.
Also PTCG is the last game for which you can make the "They only have different backs" argument, considering their really stupid policy on foreign cards.
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>>32285843
I was just kinda depressed to be that creepy old guy playing a "kids" game. Plus this wasn't at a game shop. It's held at a burger King. I kinda want to start an adult one at a nice bar restaurant which starts later in the day now but I cant find anything about pokeco policies on venues and whether alcohol can be served there.
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>>32292914
>Burger King

HB? There were less adults there because a bunch of us went to Utah.
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4 games in a row I played against weakness after many games in a row of dead draws.

Hell one guy set up an entire bench of Fugg+friends on his first turn while I opened with no momentum support (no draws, no mail and no ultra ball) and a single EX.

I just want to have some fucking fun man.

I have more fun playing meme Noctowl but I can't win often because I just match into Turbo decks who happen to run 4 N.
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>>32289132
>>32289121
nah, I don't even play that deck. I just hate to see people spout completely wrong opinions like they are fact. The deck is pretty good, and proven to be, and this neckbeard is implying his word is gospel and he knows better than actual proven players. Poor newfags reading the thread get misled terribly by this idiot.
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>>32291342
yeah, it always feels super greedy to put more than one shaymin on the bench.
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>>32292339
you think it'd be possible to smuggle those shaymins in? Maybe replace it with a friends shaymin and use thick sleeves. Unless the front is altered as well.
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>>32293777

The front is altered enough (silver border, signed, and not holo) that only someone who is clinically retarded wouldn't know the difference
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so probably a dumb question but can you still use older codes like roaring skies in the online tcg? planing on buying a booster box, and share the codes but if the codes aren't useful I my just get sun and moon, and go ultra ball hunting
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>>32294661
Yes, codes always work.
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>>32293773
Yeah. Most of the time, my draws are coming from Sycamore anyway.
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>>32294921
alright thanks should be getting it Wednesday, should be fun
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There should be a site listing all locations and pokemon in card backgrounds just for trivia. This is paralel city for example.
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>>32295497

Yes, I'd love that!

Bulbapedia has a lot of trivia, but you have to look for the card to find it. It kind of defeats the purpose...
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Anyone here go to leagues? I haven't been in a while, but I heard the promo for a recent season was Vikavolt. Are they still in the Vikavolt season?
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>>32295592

It probably changed, but depending on who runs the League they might give you older League promo cards if they still have them
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>>32295497
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>it's a Gumshoos GX Tauros GX deck episode

Fuck off dude you're just delaying the inevitable by 50 turns. Worse than fucking Vileplume Hammer decks.
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>>32295497
>4 energy for a 100 damage attack that can only be used every odd-turn
>only 120 HP
What the fuck?
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>>32296142
Promos arent made to be good just attracting.
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>>32296131
>Vileplume Hammer
How does that works?
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>>32296181
You just use Hex Maniac :^)
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>mulligan 4 times with the exact same 7 cards

What?
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Is tcg player a decent price guide?
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>>32296849

It is not particularly bad, but it doesn't hurt for you to look at other sources (eBay, Troll and Toad, what have you) for a comparison especially if you don't live in the States
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>>32292339
It's a problem where there is no good solution.
If the WC decks are tournament legal, then prices plummet and (((investors))) get the fuck out of the game because what's the point if every deck that wins worlds just gets reprinted?
If it's a limited run, then they're worth more than their weight in gold
So the only solution is to have them not be tournament legal, or not have them at all.
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>>32296859
at the very least those decks should include codes that give you the cards in PTCGO since TCPI makes exactly $0 on secondary sales in that game. When a digital Shaymin is worth $10 there is a problem.
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>>32297097
I wish Shaymin wasn't as expensive as it is so I wouldn't be tempted to sell my two copies every time I check the prices. I honestly can't wait for the thing to rotate out so I can get rid of them. I mean fuck, I could take the $90 and build a whole deck.
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>>32297097
Ok let's point out the problems here
>entire game's economy breaks
>specific decklists become about 50x more common, ruining expanded entirely and harming standard
>loses the audience that buys packs only because of the code with cards as a bonus
>lose the yearly 10000 dollars from Canadians buying gems for shop stuff
>why?
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>>32297362
>10000 dollars
Is that true? Seems like it wouldn't play the maintenance of the payment system itself
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>>32297362
The shaymeme based economy collapses but TCPI shouldn't give a rats ass about what its Jewish trader players are valuing cards at, it should want to make money and make the game accessible to as many players as possible.

Including RL shaymemes in packs would bust the RL secondary card market which negatively impacts the RL market for boosters. But even ROS/PLF code cards are worth like $0.70 at most, those losing value doesn't really change the value of a real pack very much.

And let's get real nobody actually buys packs just for a code card and the people who do don't buy a lot of packs. You can have like a dozen or more codes for the price of one pack. If you only play online.

As for specific decklists being more common, compared to what? I played 15 games today, ran into 3 darkrai turbos, 7 variations on grass itemlock, 4 ghetto budget water boxes and a megaray. Even going out more than my small sample today, I'd say that 50-60% of the standard ladder is turbo dark or grass item lock. Once you have Shaymins it's basically trivial to get the cards for any decklist you want.
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>>32297600
>companies shouldn't give a rats ass about what it's Jewish trader players are valuing cards at
They definitely should to an extent. If the price of singles drops exponentially, then stores won't want to carry any products, because people will just buy singles, meaning fewer people buy from the company. I've seen this happen with Force of Will, and local scenes die because of it.

That said, they shouldn't go full WoTC. Shaymin should have gotten an extremely mass produced tin or some form of reprint a long ass time ago.
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>>32297647

>I've seen this happen with Force of Will, and local scenes die because of it.

But doesn't FoW die because it almost always have some nonsensical Tier 0 meta with some specific counters to it and now it has rotation too?

>Shaymin should have gotten an extremely mass produced tin or some form of reprint a long ass time ago.

They clearly should've include it in some future Battle Arena deck with Jirachi but we get two unplayble Kyurem EXs instead
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>>32297647
I'm talking about the online markets, not the actual paper markets. They make no money on the online game directly, only indirectly through paper sales and their annual 5 dollars from Canadians.
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>>32296160
It's ugly too though
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Updates:

- Houndoom Competitve Stage
- Diancie Escalation Battle
- Ash-Greninja (Timed Stage)
- Once a Day Landorus-I (Timed Stage)
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>opponent drops the "Well played!" prematurely thinking he has won
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>>32300328
>Opponent drops the well played prematurely
>Oh yeah, we'll see about that, penismonger
>Spin my wheels, get nowhere, and lose
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Tauros GX was a bad idea.
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>>32300388
GX was a mistake it's fucking annoying.
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TFW we'll never get a FA Hex Maniac.
If they released it as a promo what would be its value? I suppose pretty high as a mix of scarcity, current meta and waifufaggotry.
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>>32300734
Full art Lillie is only like 20 dollars and you don't really play 4x Hex Maniac like what caused Juniper's price to rise.
Hell, new full art skyla doesn't even break 15 despite having delicious art.
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>>32300347
>opponent 'well played!'s me when I'm playing an evo challenge deck with no energies

like how do people not catch on to that, i swear the average iq of people who play this is like 70
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>>32300827
Had the same thing happen, opponent was spending ages each turn drawing through his whole deck while all I did in my turns was use wally, devo sprays and evo sodas in a cycle.
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Thoughts?
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>>32300577
You think it's annoying because they haven't made anti-GX cards yet
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>>32301330
sharpedo is shit without a way to increase retreat costs.
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>>32300827
>>32300837
Do you have any tips for these decks? I just have stacks of wallys, devos, evos and various balls and candies, but I'm thinking of putting in Talonflame and some energies for searching
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>>32301520
I just run 4 N, 4 Skyla, a bunch of great/timer balls, 4 devo spray 4 evosoda then a few 2 stage lines of whatever shitmon type I need.
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>>32300577
It's not topping regionals, so it's clearly not viable enough.

It's still EX country.
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>>32301749
literally every darkrai turbo includes tauros/ninja boy.
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>>32300388
I like it. Decks that take their first turn to set up and not actually do damage can actually be an advantage now instead of it just being a race to load up and swing. Been having great success with a Geomancy Xerneas Break/Sylveon deck of late. All thanks to so many schmoes dumping Tauros in the active T1 and expecting me to come out swinging.
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>>32301330
Both Sharpedo plus Zoroark seems redundant. Like if the plan is to strafe back to Sharpedo then why include rush-in Zoroark at all? I feel like one or the other line could be dropped in favour of four better cards. Three balloons & an eco arm maybe? Tauros?

Two Misty is at least one more than you need too, if not two too many. You need some Hex Maniac - at least one. Forcing Wobbers into the active isn't going to cut it with so much of it about. One lone hammer seems odd without back-up. Team Flare Grunt could at least be re-used. Unless it's for something specific I am not thinking of.
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I've been noticing something and was wondering if others would agree with my conclusion that most tails callers are beta contrarian losers?
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>>32302550
Zoroark works well with Umbreon since its a good 1 prizer and also a stage 1 so it can take advantage of eeveelutions, but he should include 1 BREAK card as well as the AOR eevees to boost both umby and Zoroark's damage.

>>32302761
headspickers are retarded buddy, the 'yes' button is under tails. Tails is the most efficient play.
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>>32302761
I agree. They also have poorly developed social lives and are uneducated about statistics
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>you're now allowed to have a 15 card sideboard
How does the game change?
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>>32302849

It's complete shit with too many hard counters.
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How many skyla cards should I have in my deck?
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>>32302849
Boredom levels skyrocket

>>32302907
Very rarely any. She's quite slow
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>lose because I don't draw any energy
>in Theme
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I tried to make the Steel Memes deck to clear out a challenge, and I can't seem to get it off. My opponents just kinda run over me and I get bad starts. If it's no energy, then it's something else. Any improvements that could be made?
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 9

* 2 Riolu FAC 45
* 2 Riolu FAC 46
* 1 Jirachi ROS 42
* 4 Lucario FAC 63

##Trainer Cards - 43

* 4 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 2 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 2 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 3 Lysandre FLF 90
* 3 Super Rod BKT 149
* 4 Captivating Poké Puff STS 99
* 4 N PR-BLW BW100
* 3 Level Ball AOR 76
* 3 Evosoda XY 116
* 2 Skyla BKT 148
* 1 Reverse Valley BKP 110
* 3 Exp. Share SUM 118
* 1 Hex Maniac AOR 75
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 104
* 3 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 8

* 8 Metal Energy Energy 8

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
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>>32303049
You should have at least one professor's letter so you can use skyla to get energy in emergencies.

I never played fight alone lucario, but since you have to chain set up them, you should try to maximize the level balls.

Reverse Valley doesn't make much sense. Silent Lab could save you from baby Volcanion and screw your opponents Shaymin plays if you miss them with pokepuff.
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>>32302907
skyla is only really useful in rare candy memedecks since she lets you get either an ultra ball or a rare candy if you already have one of them.
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>>32303167
Nvm about letter, i didn't see it was there
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>>32303049
Try Solgaleo/Lurantis if you can get enough value for the cards, the deck runs reasonably well without Shaymins, sure as hell better than Lucario meme. I have a Lucario meme deck but it's easily the most miserable to play deck I haven't broken up yet.
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Rate my OC supporter.
Would you like a card with this effect to be printed? It doesn't have to be for water pokémon.
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>>32303188
Funnily enough, Sol/Lurantis was the deck I faced last that made me question my deck. I only managed to knock out two of his mons before getting run over. It seems to be a pretty competent deck. I have a memeowl I could probably pawn off of need be.
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>>32303234
Solg/Lurantis usually matches up poorly against single prize decks. But yeah, it's actually pretty good, Sol Burst usually sets up 2 Sunsteel Strikes (2nd Solgaleo comes out quickly after the first one, usually) and gets a grass energy on lurantis, then if you can get an attachment and get another sunsteel prepared the next turn with a flower supply.

Against single prize decks you usually just drop 3 grass on a Lurantis and get 1 sunsteel ready on Solgaleo, then go in. The deck will be significantly better with Altar of the Sunne since right now Volcanion and the random AOR Flareon techs are difficult to deal with.
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>>32303230
You wouldn't even need the active water qualifier a long as this is released after Vs Seeker is rotated, but obviously Vs Seeker makes this too OP

I think a way to get item cards back from discard is a fair use for a supporter

Cool art too
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Is there any way to block Lysandre?

>>32302761
Hard to say, an interesting thought though.
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>>32303300

Play Primal Groudon so you can laugh at the idiots who think they can Lysandre it up only for them to waste their Supporter for their Turn
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>>32303230
>Frequently time out or come close to timing out with one of my meme decks
I sent PTCGSupport an email suggesting some efficiency updates. One of them will mean nothing to you guys, but what do you think of the other?

>...to allow the player to choose how each of his/her decks organizes the discard pile. This would save a lot of time for players who run decks that involve fishing in their discard pile frequently.
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Ohhh, Omega Barrier cards. Thanks.
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>>32303049
If you insist on running Lucario try it with Wonder Lock Klefki, plenty of buddy-buddy rescue, at least you can take a run at some Mega decks, and you can tweak your bench size.

I like to run it with Genesect alongside - a secondary attacker who can juggle tools while you shuffle through your deck or just to soak up damage. Forces your opponent to make decisions instead of just steam-rolling all your Lucario.

It's still not great and has gotten even worse since the GX meta-shift. Should get you through challenges though, just slowly.
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are the yveltals from the xy base set standard legal since they are effectively the same pokemon?
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>>32303578

Yes
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>>32303578
Yes. If something has been reprinted in later sets and hasn't been errata'd, the original copies are still legal. That's why people can still use stuff like Full Art N's and Lysandres.
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>>32302849
15 is way too fucking much for Pokeymanz. You can switch to a whole different deck with that many.
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>>32270826
I'm running a m-audino deck, pretty similar to that of Shintaro Ito, but with some sun & moon stuff (running 2 gumshoos ex, instead of shaymins, because those have become just easy meat without the AZ's).
What would you recommend instead of az's and, overall team flare stuff?
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>>32302849

Dafuqs a sideboard nigga?
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>>32303188

To add to your post, you can always use Oranguru in place of Skymin.
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>>32304205

>Plays card games
>Doesn't know what a sideboard is

It is basically an extra 10~15 cards that are not a part of your main deck, but you can exchange the same number of cards between your main deck and the sideboard to aid your match up (ie. you took 8 cards from your main deck and replaced it with 8 cards from your sideboard) in games 2 and 3 in a best 2 out of 3 match You clearly need to play more card games
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>>32304224

Other than Pokemans I did play the WWE Raw Deal TCG but we called that a "pre-match" deck.
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>>32301330
That's pretty much my deck, but I run either Sharpedo or Zoroark with BREAK.

Zoroark is far better. Less attack cost, better scalability, with Mind Jack hitting for max 160
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any fuck has a next destinies Gardevoir for exchange?
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>slowly getting cards for my first irl deck
>its not that easy to get cheap cards in Finland so I'm looking for trades in various places in internet
>managed to trade Holo Decidueye for 3x Trainers mail, 2x Parallel city, 1xfogp, few nest balls, hex maniac, ranger and few sm special energies

Nothing huge but made some nice profit, this stuff would have costed about 20$ otherwise at the only place where they sell cards here.
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>only 710 points

Grinding is just boring. They should make it at most 1500 points.
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Should I be trying to get more Shaymins online just to have a complete set before it rotates? I don't anticipate ever playing a deck that uses more than 2
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>>32303891
It was only good at worlds
Also >gumshoos
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>>32304214
Oranguru also has the potential to 2-shot a Fury Belted Darkrai with two energy if you put a Fury Belt on it too. 150 HP, doing 110 damage.

Yeah, Oranguru sucks compared to Shaymin, but it's not as awful as everyone makes it out to be.
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>>32304693
160 HP I mean
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So I just got 5 packs from codes, should I trade them for EX cards or just open them? I'm clueless, help me senpai
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>>32304693

Theyre mostly bench fodder for me.

Its nice to discard energy with an ultra ball for lurantis just to call back three cards.
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>>32304758
Keep them.
What packs are they?
Do you already have a deck you could invest those packs for?
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>>32304784
Sun&Moon
I havent played in like a year so all my shit is outdated, where can I see some decks?
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>>32305077
http://www.pokegoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper
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>just now hit me that the free packs from ladder/daily log in are not tradable
brb, going to go kill myself now.
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>>32304512
Only 410 here. I may as well be banging my head off a desk, I ain't got time for this.
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>>32303353
Please reply.
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>>32305755
Anon, this is hardly ever a problem and the game has dozens of important issues to be solved before this kind of stuff can be considered.
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super dumb question but if someone plays Pokemon catcher and the flip succeeds but there is no bench pokemon to switch is the game over because there is no pokemon on the field
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>>32306390

You couldn't even use Pokemon Catcher in the first place since you cannot play a Trainer for no effect (ie. playing Switch if you have no Benched Pokemon or Super Rod if you have no Pokemon / Basic Energy in the Discard Pile)
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>>32306404
thank you
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>>32305454
well go open them
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>>32306639
Got a FA Scizor EX, a Gardevoir EX, and foil not-FA Sycamore. Everything else is ass.
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Does the game matchmake you with people who are better as you get more vs pointz?
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Is there a way to see which cards/decks dominated metas before XY?
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Never gets old seeing someone attack Glaceon with an evolution mon, deal no damage, and then quit. Read the cards!

>Kill dudes octillery and cosmog while he sets up an espeonGX
>Have a fully loaded glaceon in active spot and a fully loaded glaceon on bench to deal with the confusion effect (as well as manaphy)
>He confuses my active glaceon (deals no damage)
>I switch out to my other one and attack
>He attacks that one with one of espeons straight damage attacks, it does nothing of course
>He immediately quits
>I kek, save the game log
>Send him a friend request
>When I leave the game he's already messaged me
>Pic related
>Then I get a notification
>Pic related
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Is Tyranitar an utter shitmon?
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>>32307355
I guess it is because of GX and EX cards.

>Glaceon: u can't attack me lol
>Solgaleo: i kill u in one attack xd
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>>32307387
>Tyranitar needs 5 energy to do 150 damage
>Solgaleo needs 3 energy to do 230 damage

GX was a mistake. What's next? Pokémon3X: basic mons that deal 300 damage for two colorless energy! Oh wait, we already have that with Tauros.

I just want to make use of all these cards in my collection but there no way to get creative and build a deck like this that is actually viable.
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>>32307355
Always been his signature, like steelix.
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>>32307426
Jesus, GX and EX really just shit all over the meta, huh?
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>>32307438
It was designed to be bad and counterable, or you think its okay to do this damage for a stage two?
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>>32307442

Well, this was back in the Diamond and Pearl block so this was before all the SP/EX/GX power creep some did try to make SF Tyranitar work but didn't have too much success
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>>32307438
back when that card was new, it was just a pretty bad card, not a fucking abysmally awful card.
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>>32307447
ex as it started was fine
>most had 2 weaknesses
>evolutions were not basic
>the ones that could be slapped down as basic were relatively weak in terms of HP.
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>>32307485
>Grass weakness
You what
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>>32307507
Bugs man
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>>32307485
The change to Pokémon EX being all basics (unlike Pokémon ex) was a really weird choice. It's clear that the metagame was intentionally meant to be about ex/EX in their respective times, but that suggests that TPCI intentionally wanted to make evolution practically non-existent for years.
or maybe they just don't balance it around high-level play
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>>32307526
Gen 5 was the "redoing gen1 gimmicks" era and they extended to tcg with big basics. I will forever be mad conkeldurr was printed on the same set of mewtwo-ex.
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>>32307526

>Blaming Americans (TPCi) for Japanese (PCL) idiocies

Then again, I doubt PCL really cares about "balancing" as long as it sell cards Japan deserves another Lost Decade or two for those SM+ sets

>>32307538

Conkeldurr came out a set before Mewtwo EX
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>>32307562
Well, I knew it wasn't Nintendo or Game Freak that made the TCG, so it seemed a reasonable guess.
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Can somebody please hook me up with 3 "Transfer Pain" Drifloon? I'm trying to make a meme with them but somehow through all the packs I've cracked, I only have one standard-legal Drifloon.

I have two of the "Burst Curse" Drifblim I need but I could use another couple of those if anyone could spare them as well.

The meme deck is called "Hindenburg" incase you're curious. It might not even work well. Please let me know if you can help.
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Started using Kukui and I can't imagine not playing it now. The extra 20 damage comes up a lot and it's nice to just draw 2 sometimes when you don't want to Sycamore away your hand.
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>>32307422

but solgaleo loses all energies afterwards
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>>32307426

but this is from gold and silver age... so back then all were shit
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>>32307634

If you're still looking, add IBenzinI

I have like 12
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>>32307803
My hands are usually trash because I play meme decks but the fun is doubled if you play Kukui at a clutch moment. I always have at least one.
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>>32308640
Trying to add you, but they extended server maintenance by 45 minutes and then it's 50 minutes later and they still aren't online.
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>>32308640
>>32310455
Sent friend request.

Have my OC in the meantime.
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How would I get over a psychic transfer mewtwo as a darkrai?
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>>32303230
Template? I cant into this program.
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Is it worth to try to pull a Shaymeme?
Is he getting a reprint?
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>>32311819

>Is it worth to try to pull a Shaymeme?

If you plan to play for the long run (and the Expanded format), you will probably need at least two

>Is he getting a reprint?

Highly doubt it until TPCi decides to release a Battle Arena deck with it along with Jirachi EX
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>at level 11
>Supposed to have 3 daily challenges
>I only get one daily challenge
Can someone please explain?
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>>32311956
you can store up 3 challenges, you still get 1 a day but you don't need to complete it to get a new one.
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Can I get a quick rundown on restored mons? I always thought you could play them like basic mons and that the fossil item card was just another way to get them on your bench. Turns out you HAVE to use the fossil card... Is this why I never see these mons used?
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>>32312830

Yes, and the fact that you are not guaranteed to bring them out unless you use Fossil Researcher (specific Pokemons only, uses your Supporter of the Turn), Omastar FCO, or somehow put Restored Pokemon into the bottom of the deck and then use the Fossils make them basically unusable
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>>32312845
Fossil Pokémon were, are, and will always be a mistake
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>the fucking bundle is shit again

When the fuck are we getting shit actually worth buying like HGSS again?
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>acro bike for the two same cards
>every fucking game
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>>32312845
People use Aerodactyl sometimes. Anything else is memecore.
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>whole life collecting cards
>want to get competitive
>roaring skies came out
>wanted to build some palkia meme deck
>pulled 3 shaymins ex
>changed them for 3 palkias ex
>now i dont have a single shaymin and have to use orangurus/octillery
>i hate myself so much
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>>32312845
You can also Archie or Maxie out the best of them, but even then it's not really worth it and about as inconsistent as using the fossils in the first place.

Used to be cards like pic related that allowed you put specific cards to the bottom of your deck, which obviously made the archetype more viable, but there hasn't been anything similar and standard-legal in a fair while now. Should be due a reprint one of these sets, or you can do it in expanded still.
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>>32313478
Meant to reply to >>32312830
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>>32313446
>you will never experience the joy having an Ultra Ball +2 hand, getting Shaymin from it, then drawing six
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>>32313478

The only thing really worth using Arhcie's/Maxie's with is Archeops NVI, Turn 1 evolution lock can help your certain matchups by a lot
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>Stores that host pre-release events for PTCG sets can now sell their cards 4 days before the official release date

holy shit, tpci actually supporting events other than worlds/regionals?
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>>32313589

No, it just gives stores incentives to actually host Prereleases and encourage people to buy from LGSs. I didn't realize that the official release dates is now officially on Friday instead of Wednesday
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>>32313516
>opponent does exactly that
>he remembers he has a garbodor in his bench
>sad face
Sometimes, this game makes me mad. But then stuff like that happens and I feel I can't complain for the laughs it gives me.
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Have a bunch of packs, what are some good cards to trade for?


Dont really care about full arts or secret rare meme cards.
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>>32314346
Open a couple for us.
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>trying to do steel damage challenge with scizor deck
>all 4 matches so far are volcanion
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Darkrai was a mistake, holy fuck.

Literally all they had to do was make it basic energies only. But nope!
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>>32314687
No top8 decks use rainbow energy darkrai...
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>>32314691
Double Dragon energy, retard.
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Why the fuck was milling ever implemented in this game? Serious question, nobody in their right minds would think that this would make a card game more fun.
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>>32314724
It is to me
t. houndoom player
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>>32314687
>>32314707
Please. Being able to punch for 200+ in half the time is great. And let's not forget what a nice feeling it is to Chaos Wheel some poor fuck.
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Braindead decks for the dumbest and most uncreative of "players":
1. Turbo Dark
2. Anything with Decidueye or Vileplume in them
2. M-Fug

Patrician Intellectual Decks:
1. Yanmega BREAK
2. Lapras GX Hammers
3. M-Garde
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>>32315092
>Lapras GX hammers
>M-anything

Looks like you're one of those braindead plebs too.
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>>32315092
People who whine about lack of "creativity" when it comes to meta decks are the worst. People play what wins because they want to win. If shitty "OC DO NOT STEAL" decks worked, more people would use them. Wanting to use garbage so you can feel special about not using a "braindead" deck makes you a hipster faggot.
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>>32315113
This is not about wanting to use le ebin meme decks, nor is it about using the best decks around.

It's about people being too scared to innovate leaving us with the same shit over and over and over again.

The game never evolves. GX is out, yet war never changed. You know why? Because everyone just wanted to take home the cash and the points, like it's their career, no longer a hobby.

People don't go to worlds or regionals to have fun anymore or to make friends. They don't care about the state of the game.

They only care about themselves.


Players like Shintaro Ito are the kind of people that want to evolve the game. Same can be said with Ross Cawthorne back in the day.

Now it's all about random nobodies just sweeping the tournament cause they netdecked. Do you think netdecking is healthy at all?


I could go on and on about people not caring about a stale meta, but I'll stop here cause I just wanna rant.
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