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AI Scum Edition

>Discord chat
https://discord.gg/VYtmAcs
>Figure Lists (Click the figure to see the movesets)
http://serebii.net/duel/figures.shtml
>Plates Listing
http://serebii.net/duel/plates.shtml
>Quest Rewards
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/amanomurakumo/20170129
>Japanese Pokemon Duel twitter
https://twitter.com/pokemoncomaster

Store Links:
>iOS
itunes.apple.com/us/app/pokemon-duel/id1078819328
>Android
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.pokemon.pokemoncomaster&hl=en
>APK File
www.apkmirror.com/apk/the-pokemon-company/pokemon-duel/

>FAQs
http://pastebin.com/U26QTvSY
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>>32212541
Woops

Previous thread: >>32193809
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vroom vroom
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Hey I just started playing
Wtf are the metal cubes for? Never told me in game
I can sometimes select them in fusion but not all the time
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>>32212576
yellow are to be sold for money
blue give EXP
green give chain points, but only to figures of the same rarity
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Anyone know why I haven't gotten any booster tickets from the monthly ratings? I was on track for 15 last night. Same shit happened last month.
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>ingot ex tomorrow
Cube EX when?

Also post what you got from the free booster
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>>32212598
Wait a few days

>>32212601
>Haunter
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>>32212598
You'll get them tomorrow
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>>32212601

>Golem

We should be getting the next gym after the orange packs leave right? I realized using my gems for energy boost during the gym is way better than buy boosters
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>>32212541
>Picture
Ah, you won yourself a pat in the back op, good job.
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>triple reuniclus
>triple reuniclus
>deo s a d, 2 reuniclus and gastly
Month is off to a good start
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>Send Ho-oh to get sacked for the team
>Proceeds to fuck things in the ass and win me the game

Never gets old
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>stealth rock gets introduced and they do things
>move puts marker on the point
>charizard moves through it
>charizard dies and gets send to shadow realm
>the marker is removed upon use to balance sneaky pebbles
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What are some of your guys favorite not so commonly used pieces? Ones that arent the most powerful the most useful, but that you still really like. Ones that you dont see on your opponents side often. Or ones that you use for shits and giggles cuz sometimes they give you fun wins.

Bonus points if the peices are on your daily grind team.

Double bonus points if you are +2700

I use corpish, vibrava and gabite. After getting stomped by about 6 reuin/deox decks in a row I went for peices that fuck with them before they get to spin. Loose more than I win with them but they bring some fun to the game after playing the same type of games over and over.

>inb4 why use shitty peices.
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>>32213855
i'm 2900 and i use prinplup
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>>32213855
Trapinch AKA FUCK YOU RUNNERS

Bonus points for if the stuck fig tries to attack it and ends up giving me a Vibrava with a 3 star confusion
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>>32213855
3 jolteon for paralysis memes 2700-2800 range
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>>32212553
(-・ˇˇ・-)
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>>32213855
I unironically used Latios at 2700 if that counts
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>>32213855
Slaking
People seriously don't understand why it's good
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>>32213855
does whimsicott count?

im at 2600 and he's a staple of my team
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>>32214355
i seriously hope you are only using him as a goalee
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>>32214417
Putting him on an entry point or blocking a lane works fine too
And honestly in this retarded Deoxys/Reuniclus/Zapdos meta you're not going to realistically win any battles if you actually ever do attack, so it's not like it matters where I put it
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>>32214431
yeah. thats why i run a rush team with lots of blue mons. attacking is retarded
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Okay I have like 5 Green R Cubes and no idea who to use them on, and they're clogging up my inventory. Should I use them or save them? My Rs include Jolteon, Flareon, Slyveon, Wigglytuff, Kirlia (but no Gardrvoir yet), Gyarados, any of those worth boosting? Only one I use regularly would be Gyatados.
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>>32214546
Gyarados. You beat Heatran, Moltres and Latias' 110 attacks, as well as Deo-A's 130 if you use it in a manaphy deck
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>>32214579
It's already 111, should I boost it more?
Also I have Datini, Dragonair (Dragonite, does it carry up?), and Gabite (But no Garchomp). Thought they weren't mentioning but maybe with the Gym...
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Alright, /vp/. My special mission is win 3 league matches in a row. My deck has always been kinda shitty, but I actually want to make it better. Any advice on how I should build it? Mew is a shoo-in, but other than that, I don't really have that great of figures.

>>32214614
+2 extra is usually good enough. They don't carry up though, you have to boost each figure individually.
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>>32214686
Mew
Magmortar
Greninja
Blastoise
Ho-Oh
Kirlia -----> Gardevoir

rush and cycle with Ho-Oh.
Run Double Chance and try to net a win with Flame Gun.
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>open timed booster
>palkia
>trash figure

>open another booster
>magmortar
>don't know how to use it

i don't know what to do
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>>32215390
Level up Flame Gun
cop 2 Double Chance
wait for the Fire Gym
smash ass
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>>32214018
I love that guy too. Sometimes gotta deny evolution because its ability messes with the opponents plan too much
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What's your least favorite timed booster?

For reference:

White (1 hour) - 1 Figure, 1 Ingot
Blue (3 hours) - 1 Figure, 1 Ingot, 1 Rare Metal or Cube
Orange (6 hours) - 2 Figures, 1 Ingot, 1 Rare Metal or Cube
Purple- (6 hours) - 1 Figure (UC or higher), 1 Ingot, 1 Rare Metal or Cube
Gold (12 hours) - 1 Figure (UC or higher), 1 Figure, 1 Ingot, 1 Rare Metal or Cube
Rainbow (24 hours) - 1 Figure (R or higher), 2 Figures, 1 Ingot, 1 Rare Metal or Cube
For me personally, I HATE gold boosters so much. I don't think I've ever gotten a good figure and 12 hours is just such an awkward time period. Most of work 8 hours a day and sleep for 8 hours too. So you wind up wasting 4+ hours (rather than just 2) by unlocking gold. I guess you're more likely to get R/EX from a gold booster than Purple/Blue/White but that increase is so small. There really aren't that many common figures. I'd rather open two purple boxes or a purple and blue box instead of one gold box with 12 hours. At least I'd be getting more cubes/metal.

Favorite would be orange and rainbow obviously. Orange is only six hours like purple but gives two figures instead of one. There' also a higher chance of getting R/EX because the figure pool is so much smaller. Rainbow is always good since you're guaranteed R or EX.
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>>32215824
They're all shit. I got my first EX out of a gold I think, but it was a shit one so it didn't matter. Even in the boxes that guarantee you something UC or higher all I fucking get is Geodudes or Fennekin from oranges.
Though today I got Goodra and Drapion from a rainbow. Both shit but neat that they were both R.
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>playing against 2700 girl with 3 deoxys attacks and 3 reinculus WHO ALSO GETS FIRST MOVE
>i have no deoxys and no reinculus.
>she moves a deoxys onto her entry point.
>i move my based leafeon as far up the middle as possible.
>she blocks it with her reinculus
>i hurdle jump that bitch
>after she realizes she's made a horrible mistake by not having goal block or any 3mp mons to move up on first turn she attacks my leafeon with reinculus as a last ditch effort to not lose
>walk my confused leafeon onto that goal turn

took like 2 turns to beat that fucking scrub. fuck you deoxys/reinculus cancers
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>>32216101
>no cosmo plate
>no deo s
What Deoxys were they using
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>>32216101
do girls play this game? asking for a friend
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>>32216198
I'm a girl and play this game. There are literally tens of us
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>>32216115
>3 deoxys attacks
Anyway that looks like a retarded deck made by a whale. It sounds like they didn't even have a hurdle jump to block Leafeon with the Reuniclus.
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>>32216206
h-hi
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>get matched with someone 350 rank higher
>3 ryhorn, 3 geodude
>instant forfeit
>go up 45 rank
>rainbow booster

Thanks, stranger.
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>>32212601
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>>32216466
I'm so damn jealous right now. I want a Heatran so badly.
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>play with someone close to my rank
>3 Reuniclus, a Ghastly, and two other things I can't remember
>he goes first, puts Ghastly on the field
>say fuck it, slap a Double Chance on Glaceon
>he lands on Astonish, gets KO'd
>he brings 1 Reuniclus out and attacks Glaceon
>Glaceon gets KO'd
>bring out Zapdos
>instead of bringing another one of his Reuniclus out, he attacks Zapdos
>I land on Thunder Crash
>Confuse Ray->Miss->Confuse Ray
>gets KO'd
>decide to just rush the goal
>brings out another Reuniclus and attacks Zapdos again
>land on Steel Wing
>he lands on Brain Link but decides to respin
>Misses, gets KO'd
>one space away from goal
>he attacks Zapdos with his last Reuniclus
>I land on Steel Wing again
>he lands on Brain Link with no respins left and we tie
>I walk into the goal
Is there a more satisfying feel?
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>>32216519
Heatran is based as fuck both as getting to the goal and fucking up other people getting to my goal and it's ability can fuck over Shuppet or Deoxys-S or pretty much any meme rusher
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>>32216555
Yes
>bring out metagross
>wipe the floor with him
>block both of his entries
>making him wait lose
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>>32216555
>opponent landing on their 1 size miss against your figure's weak ass baby attack and winning the game off of it
I've been that asshole that loses because of a minuscule miss chance so many times so when it finally happened to someone else I basically became erect.
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>>32214686
>Mew
>Flygon
>Magmortar
>Greninja
>Ho-Oh
>Kirlia/Gardevior

Rush.
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These are the best kinds of wins

>two moves away from being checkmated
>make last ditch effort to opponents goal
>Vibrava vs lone 3spin reun goalie
>70 attack vs miss
>respins to 50
>respins to miss
>fuck yea (pic related)
>goal blocks with another reun
>fuck
>x attack on vibrava vs 2 spin resin goalie now
>50+30 attack vs miss
>respins to his 50 attack
>ko goalie
>nothing of his within attacking space
>win

Vibrava vs 5 total spins from reuns, man that was satisfying. I hope you're on here to see thisfaggot
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>>32217251
vibravas attacks are 70 and 40 not 70 and 50
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>>32217357
He clearly has a CL10 Vibrava
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>>32217371
the screenshot shows its clearly cl0
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>>32217357
Oh yea you right, my bad. Dont matter either way with that x attack doing what it does.
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>fusion flare against deoxys-A miss
now thats a good god damn feeling
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>>32217381
Yeah, how weird, it was almost like he was joking...
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>zekrom and reshiram on field
>bannet vs resharim
>get cursed
>seedot kamakazi on reshiram next turn

First I kekd
Then I lost
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>I'm a day too late to tank my ranking

Damn, should have just done it during work.
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>>32217614
tanking is retarded and serves no purpose
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>>32217621
I'm at ~2800 so it's hard to climb higher without getting lucky and pulling better EX figures
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>>32217653
so what?
climbing has nothing to do with your monthly rating
if you maintain 2800 throughout the month then your monthly rating will reach 2400~2500 or similar

tanking your rating wont affect that
it scales based on the people you face and the rating you maintain
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>>32217614
>>32217653
>tanking
>in regular league matches
for what purpose?, you won't avoid whales with full deoxys/reuniclus team by just going to 2500, so why even do that?
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>>32217743
reddit started a rumour that you wont be able to get your monthly rating higher if you start the month at your peak rating and the sheep lapped it up
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>>32217251
>Seedot
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>>32217763
april fools?
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>>32217752
From what i understand, by the start of the new month, everyone monthly rating will be restarted, so that means you will be seeing fucking strong teams at 1500 rating for at least 10 days, until all of those guys get back to 2000 monthly rating.
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>>32217763
>the power of ineffective energy
True
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>>32217785
no you wont because you're matched based on your actual rating, not monthly rating
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>>32217781
I thought so too but it's legit, check their twitter
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>>32217763
>They double ruse us and Mega Fug is added
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>>32217763
NO FUCK YOU
YOU'RE NOT TRICKING ME
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>>32217817
I think he was implying that mega Rayray was the ruse, not the tweet's existence.
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>>32217817
>>32217827
I don't see any tweet about it
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>>32217827
Oh, my bad.

Hoping it's april fools but I'm sure they wouldn't pass up the opportunity to satisfy the whales. RIP the meta if it's real tho
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>>32217861
I'm not sure what that's supposed to imply. The tweet is up on their page with the image, so even if someone edited the text, the official Rayquaza teaser image would still be there, which you can't account for

If you don't believe me here's a link to the tweet
https://twitter.com/pokemoncomaster/status/843114783889145858
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>no Carol waifu
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>>32217894
vroom vroom !
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>>32217896
Next festival event when?
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>>32217774
Its my goofing around deck. Use not so common peices to switch it up for fun. End goal is obviously the 4 star fan shiftry with that cutoff ability. Doesn't always happen but it's just for fun.
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what should I expand for Mew? Hyper Sonic or Shuttle Flip?
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>>32218153
hyper sonic, when you throw it against another strong figure you want it always to roll yellow
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booster tickets are coming soon. should we save or spend? rhyperior and heatran look really good but the devs might put out some amazing meta changing figures next rotation.
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>>32218446
I'm thinking about spending about half of tickets. I want Heatran, Ryperior, and Ho-Oh.
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can someone explain booster rotations for me? When figures are rotated out, does that only apply to the boosters in the shop? Are timed boosters affected?
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>>32218576
Only shop boosters have figures rotated in or out. Timed and locked boosters never lose figures; they only gain them. This makes it harder to pull a specific figure though since the pool is much larger and can contain common figures.
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wtf i love quads now
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>give Poliwag the option to evolve as a joke
>actually get the chance to in a game where RNG has me on the ropes
>Poliwhirl bullshit allows me to position Kirlia to take goal
>purple against a Xerneas' Germany
>easy money
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Just got my 10 booster tickets
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So I'm grinding story mode for exp. I'm winning every time but I just got coins 11 times in a row. How do you guys deal with this? It's so demoralizing.
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>>32218810
Can confirm. I got my 30 tickets and I'm going to spend half of them on this rotation.
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Post rank reward pulls and r8

I got 20, it ends at trapinch
I'm pretty happy with Rhyperior, everything else will probably be fusion food
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>>32218810
just got my 15. probably going to spend half
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>Get 20 tickets
>Spend them all
>18 UCs, Flareon, and Liepard

JUST

At least I got Yveltal in a purple booster today
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Should I use my tickets now? Are the current boosters good?
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>>32218885
Rhydon
Rhydon
Cottonee
Tabunne
Gabite
Braixen
Larvitar
Trapinch
Gabite
Hoothoot

fucking hell this sucks

I still have 5 tickets left. Too angry to spend them
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>get 2 tickets
Might as well fuckin' spend them I guess.
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>>32218901
okay I spent them and they were ALL TRAPINCH
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>>32218884
Got 7 tickets, got magmortar and gabite
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>>32218876
Braixen
Braixen
Braixen
Noctowl
Noctowl
Noctowl
Noctowl
Hoothoot
Trapinch
Trapinch
Purrloin
Liepard
Jolteon
Tyranitar

All fusion fodder. I pulled Magmotar this morning, but it was a repeat. Fuck this, time to wait for the next rotation.
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A couple of questions,
If I get rhyperior to lv 5 will it eliminate one of its misses? (Pic is of my Lv 4)
Is Bulldoze the best move to level?
And is it worth CLv-ING him to beat C leveled zapdos
And the main one, is he worth using outside of the gym?
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>second Monferno in a row from these orange shits
>and Charmeleon
>never Moltres or Ho-Oh or Heatran
Also, fuck my shit up.
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>Rainbow flash from a purple box.
>Get Keldeo.

Goddamn it.
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I got an extra Magmotar from a booster. Should I fuse them together or use both for the gym?
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>>32219084
>memed on by oranges
>buy a quad, as a joke
>haha that's really funny guys ex where
I knew this was a mistake but I did it anyway. I should stop doing that.
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I have a Flareon and a Vaporeon, are they worth keeping or should I scrap them? Aren't only really Glaceon, Leafeon and Slyveon (in a Round team) useful?

Also does Empelon's diving entry work even if the entry is blocked? Basically, Can I use it as a Rush blocker?
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>>32219613
Leafeon, Glaceon, and umbreon are the only ones worth keeping

And yes, empoleon can bypass other figures blocking your entry points>>32219613
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>>32218884
Ends at Golem, meh really.
Haven't got any remotely decent fire figure for this gym.
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>>32217763
mega smogon
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>>32217763
Megas are going to make this game even more unbalanced.
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>Evolution is outclassed by its evo

They should fix this somehow, specially when the purpose of the pokémon is being utility and not damage, making it very rare to have the chance to evolve in the first place
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got 10 tickets: heatran, ho-oh and torterra. I never had this luck in this game
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>>32220179
It's all an April Fools joke, they'll change back to normal soon :^)
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>>32219985
>Figures are getting powercreeped
>Adds Megas to deal with it
Literally Game Freak
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>>32220238
Promotions.
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>use the month tickets
>zangoose, gastly, rhyperior, haunter, pupitar, golem, trapinch, heatran, purrloin, cottonee
rate the pull
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7 Booster tickets
>Moltres
>Monterno
>Chimchar
>Chimchar
>Flygon
>Ho-Oh
>Heatran

still literally shaking here
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>>32218884
Spent half of mine and got
>2 Gible
>Hoothoot
>Pupitar
>Gastly

At least my Ho-oh is all that closer to Max Level

At least Orange boxes have been kind to me by giving me 2 Heatran
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Got 15 fusion fodder from my tickets.
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>all but one of the booster tickets were Trapinch and Vibrava when I already have three of each
>the last was a Cottonee
Literally why
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>20 boosters of fusion fodder

Fuck
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>Everyone itt with 20+ tickets is pulling exp fodder
>Everyone with <7 tickets pulls multiple ex figures

Really stimulates your cerebral cortex
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Got 3 uc from booster tickets so I'm saving the other 3 for later
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>3 boosters from monthy ranking
>get Reshiram, and Torterra
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>Ttar
>Jolteon
>Flareon
>Rhydon
>Pupitar
>Zangoose
>Noctowl

>everything but Flareon was a dupe
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Should i waste my 30 tickets right now?
i really want that heatran and a moltres, but fuck if i get rhyperior or Ho-oh, they would be sitting forever in my collection.
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>>32221272
Ho-Oh is fucking good though
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>>32221302
Meh, i don't think it would go well with my current team, i have reshiram which is a better Ho-Oh for me, it doesn't have the cool ability, but it's still much better for me.
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>>32221272
do it, try to get a moltres for the gym
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>>32221449
i guess i could waste 15, though i got a feeling that this gym will end up being filled with reu/deo in the top just like the dragon gym.
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what's the strategy for using Trapinch? I remember there was some guy here with a high ranking and he said something about using Trapinch on your entry points to trap figures but I don't remember anything else. I wanted to create a meme deck for leagues using the 14 tranpinch I got from my 15 boosters.
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>rank 5996th place
>x15 tickets

HELL YEAH HERE GOES NOTHING
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>>32221750
FIRST TICKET
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>11 tickets
>getting pure shit and not even anything new
>last ticket
>now I'm sure it'll never be Rhyperior
>Gold to rainbow
"C'mon Rhyperior!"
>it IS

thank fucking god, I spent 800 gems trying for it and got NOTHING
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>>32221777

ha, I hit the jackpot twice
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>>32213855
Gothorita is a great surprise defender because no one knows its ability
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damn, they made heatran really well, I just had a duel where one kept trying to brush off my mon and we kept tying until he hit magma, which in itself was a death sentence for my figure, then i put magmortar (evolved) in it's place and it's gun was probably the only safe counter against it
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>>32222351
The flagship figures from this and last set (Reshiram, Zekrom, Heatran, Ryperior) are all pretty cool and balanced. They just really fucked up with the one before that.
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>played this game on release
>got bored quite quickly
>see this Roger guy around
>there's absolutely no porn of him

Why?
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>mew vs yveltal
>mew rolls 6 hyper sonics in a row
>yveltal rolls 100 damage white attack 6 times in a row
>lose the match because of this
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>>32221633
You either play it on a corner when your opponent runs their deo-s to your inside corner or if your opponent hurdles one of your figs onto your entry using a switch plate to nail it in place. I'd recommend using 2 switch plates with trappy to make sure you can get him where he'll cause the most havoc. My favorite is to get him trapping my opponents fig to block his own entry point.
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>>32222653
The mew was yours?, if that's so, that's hilarious
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>>32221633
Also scoop up while being a really good plate anyways is also really great for Trapinch for catching your opponent off guard and stopping any would be goal run attempts while you are on the offensive.
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>>32222682
what's the best move to level up for trapinch? Dodge/Withdraw?
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>>32222802
Yeah protect. You really want him wasting the enemy's turns as much as possible.
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dead general for dead game
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>>32223965
deoxys and reuniculus trully saved the game when they came out
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>>32222431
>No porn of anyone
;_;
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>>32220242
This game is fun!
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>>32224021
Deoxys is balanced
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Do y'all think sexpacks might come back for Golden Week? Seems like the best time to do it
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>that sweet moment when your greninja tries to job but fails thanks to your yveltal buffing it with it's purple just enough to kill the other figure and win you the game
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>play a match where my metagross rolls a miss
>I just suck in general and opponent is rank 3100+ with a yveltal CL+4 which murders my zapdos (thats a first)
>make a rush towards his goalie metagross to threaten a surround with jolteon
>he attacks my jolteon and rolls bullet punch, i roll thunder jolt and walk into the goal
>pull a second pic related

I wish i could trade it
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>opponent puts out Bagon first turn
>kills Poliwag
>evolves
>Bagon gets Conceal
>Mawile spins size 1 miss
>dies
>evolves
>they put out their other Mence
>spins flamethrower or whatever it is and Pikachu somehow gets thundershock despite the entire pointer being in thunder wave
I haven't been sacked that hard for such a long time in a while. At least losing to Greninja in 3 turns was only 3 turns of getting fucked.
>still won the game because careful positioning let me knock out one of the Mences and surround Reshiram the next turn
>then Poliwag hopped towards goal
>and spun purple against his Charizard while 3 steps from the goal
Based fucking tadpole.
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So i finally got around to open some of the 30 booster tickets i got, and this is what i got
>magmar
>pupitarx3
>purrloinx2
>trapinchx2
>jolteon
>flygon
>larvitarx2
>vibravax2
>haunter
>hoothoot
>Braixen
>Noctowl
i wasn't expected to be showered in EX figures... but i sure hoped i would get something...
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>>32225272
Welcome to what a majority of the playerbase experiences
Average is 0-2 EXs a month
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>>32224776
golden week?
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>watch a featured duel
>some guy's Zapdos misses against a shuppet
>duel over

why would you feature that garbage
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>>32225272

the less tickets you got today the more chance you had of getting EX
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>>32225492

cause that's hilarious

until it happens to you, but meanwhile...
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>>32225383
It's a week long vacation in Japan for most of the population. Mobile games usually have special promotions going on during Golden Week. Shuffle iirc had a week of log in bonuses
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Would any anons be willing to offer team advice? I hit 2800 recently but I feel like my team could use some improvement. Pic related is my team, will post figure case as well
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>>32225755
Case
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>>32225755
What gives you trouble?
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>>32225995
Full Reuniclus can be annoying since Deo-A is really my only answer to them. The biggest problem with the team is that my usual strategy is just to rush, cap an entry, and then use Deoxys-A to try to break them. This team really hates playing the slow game, especially against stronger teams, given that Mew, Shuppet, and Leafeon can be grinded up easily in those fights. I'm thinking about replacing Shuppet since I don't have a Swap Spot plate and its only effectiveness atm is merely restricting the opponents movement. The ideal replacement I had in mind for Shuppet would be Zapdos or Gyarados but I haven't been able to pack the former and don't have access to the latter.

So essentially, I get worn down by stronger squads if my rush doesn't succeed, and it obviously becomes harder to rush successfully at higher ranks.
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>>32226020
>130 damage attack
>Ability that forces opponent to reroll
Could he be a counter to Deoxys-A?
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>>32226348
Fug, didn't mean to quote.

Eh, not worth deleting it.
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based carlo coming up in the clutch
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>>32226348
Arnaldo is a decent counter, just sucks that miss and iron tail take up 2/3 of the wheel. Respin is nice but Deo-A is just a little over 50/50 towards psycho boost so odds still aren't great. i feel like anything with high confusion rates are good counters, kicks over to miss out dodge at a pretty high rate
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>>32226693
Miss or* dodge
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(-・ˇˇ・-)
>>
>leave for work
>come back home
>the only past within 7 hours is comoru now moving as fast as you can vroom vroom !

new gym when
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>>32226348
>1mp
>Small 130 that's irrelevant anyway because Deoxys will make you reroll
>Kinda shitty against any other opponent

Kabuto is a better check to Deoxys A if you really need to use something with battle armor.
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>>32227788
Orange boosters end at 04:59 UTC on the 4th
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Guys, my current deck is:
>Ho-oh
>Genesect
>Salamence
>Whimsicott
>Gothitelle
>Shuppet (chained with Banette)

I currently have 3005 material, should I take a A-Deo or should I wait for 4000 for something else? And which of my current mons should I discard?
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>>32227857
gothitelle, genesect, salamence, shuppet

they should be replaced in that order
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>>32227868
And which figures should I put in my deck?
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>>32227920
whatever you open thats better

up to you about the crafting thing
you better be really sure you want it before you craft it though
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>>32225785
Looks like Yveltal>Shuppet is working. It's not Zapdos, but it's pretty useful, hopefully I can pack a Greninja or Umbreon to go with it.

Lost 100+ points last night but that's mostly down to my college's bad internet connection, as I feel the team's a lot more consistent with Yveltal. Started the day beating Deoxys at least
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>>32226348
Counters to Deoxys-A:
>Literally any purple attack
>Poliwhirl
>Metagross
>X-Attack
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>>32228377
you forgot mew and Reuniclus
also X-attack can hardly count as a counter, since you need some attacker with 102 dmg like a zapdos and then you need to pray for your zapdos to roll his yellow attack twice.
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>>32228377
>Meta "Lands on Bullet Punch 90% of the time" gross
Yeah, no
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>>32228600
Wait, do you unironically think you're supposed to attack with Metagross? And attack Deoxys-A of all things? Is this genuinely what you're insinuating?
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>>32228612
not him but metagross won't do much to counter Deoxys A, even without it's forced respin you still have a fucker that will hit you for 130 most of the time.
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>>32228612
Im insinuating that despite having one stronger attack, Deo-A still has a better matchup against Metagross and your opponent won't hesistate to attack Metagross with Deoxys if they're feeling ballsy
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>>32228623
Refer back to >>32228377
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>attack lucario with deo a
>psycho boost/dodge
What do you do in this situation?
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Just got Reshiram out of a booster and was planning to get Zapdos with the resulting materials. Is Zekrom worth considering instead for that special combined attack they have?
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The best counter to Deo-A is a higher C lv. Deo-A
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>>32228641
Force Respins

As the Friz says "Take chances, make mistakes!"
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>That one replay where a CL2 Greninja gets a x6 shuriken and takes out a Reuniclus
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>>32228671

I used them both throughout the entire dragon gym and only eliminated another figure from duel maybe three times over the course of a couple hundred matches.
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>>32228377
Mew is a counter, too.
Even counting the respin, Mew has a >50% chance to wall anything D-A spins, and the odds of it spinning purple or Miss makes the matchup legitimately threatening.
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What should I build up with Ho-oh, rainbow wing right?
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All these fucking deox and reun decks! I need a fucking metagross already
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>>32229933
get good
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>>32229961
Ill get right on that by spending money

also how much has metagross helped you guys since its new ability? Pls say you seen an increase in rage quits.
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>>32230001
against reuniclus?, it becomes a 70% win rate against them, especially if you have something with a good yellow like zapdos or raiku
against Deo?, it barely does anything.
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>>32216466
Fuck you
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What are the chances that the next update includes some amazing figures that mess with Deoxys/Reuniclus in the same way that Metagross does? Or they introduce a new energy plate that nullifies Cosmo Energy or something somehow?

I have enough material for a Metagross but I don't know if it's worth it since the devs seem to be trying to fix their Deoxys/reuniunclus mistake. Metagross isn't that good and it's only worth using because it cancels respins. There won't be a point in using it if the devs are just going to add something better.
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>>32230140
>a new energy plate that nullifies Cosmo Energy
hmmm...
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>>32230158
if they're going for type effectiveness like they did with the dark energy plate, they could do Bug or Ghost energy next. Both types are due for a gym soon too
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>>32230240
The wording on the dark energy plate implies that some type of ghost energy might happen

"...energy effects on your opponent's psychic and ghost type Pokemon are nullified"
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>>32230240
>dat reasoning
Bug plate and Shuckle EX confirmed!
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Why is Long Barrel a plate? Why is it not the default effect of Rock Wrecker?
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>>32228505
>Reuniclus
>if you spin confuse ray twice in a row just to not die

This is not a counter
I'm currently running Rhyperior as a defender to try and counter it on and 3 reuniclus team
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>>32230390
its a different effect, not an upgrade
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>>32230560
How is this not just an upgrade?
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I just pulled a second moltres, should i fuse them?
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>>32230586
because it changes the range to long range and can no longer hit ones 1 step away like the opponent you fight for example
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Should I get Reshiram, Deoxys-A, or save up 600 to get two Reuniclus?
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>>32230687
Deo A

Forced respins are insanely strong
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>>32230687
Wait a couple days to see what's added with the gym, then buy Deo A if it's shit which it will be.
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>>32230592
After the Fire Gym
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>>32230896
thanks
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Reshikrom fact #2, fusion won't activate on moves that status if knocked out. Also I finally bought an overdrive plate and boy does it make a world of difference
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Out fucking skilled.
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>>32231726
what happen
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>>32231726
I don't get it. Did he just forfeit on his 3rd turn?
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>>32231788
>>32231789
He forfeit on his second turn after I put Kirlia in his Shuppet's path. Was probably just trying to get his league game out of the way for the day or something.
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>hovering around 2100-2200 for a while up until a few days ago
>get a Mew
>on a winning streak all the way up to 2500
Hmm...really makes you think...
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>>32231545
There was/is a bug where if one of the pair had a status on them, the other one also wouldn't have Fusion activate. Not sure if it's fixed yet.
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Which move should I be levelling up on my nigga Rhyperior?
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Does anyone else hate it when the opponent has both entry points and knocks out your goalie and they let their figure evolve? Even though they have 0% chance of losing, they still let their figure evolve and waste an extra 10 seconds. I fucking hate this. It's the only time I let the timer run down instead of just forfeiting. You can't just take my goal and be done with it? You have to waste time showing off? Fine, you can waste an extra three minutes.
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>>32232244
Expand the blue
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>>32232272
lol
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>>32232272
>Does anyone else hate it when the opponent has both entry points and knocks out your goalie
Sure do.
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>>32230140
Someone talked about metang with metagross' ability and speed booster when he evolves. that would be cool given how easy meta is to kill with so many 100+ dmg figures running around and being so slow

>>32230001
this guy just gave up or had something better to do. deoxys teams are still tough because of all the switching into favorable matchups. maybe they could introduce a figure that disrupts that
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>>32232380
bottom row stack is the most effective strat
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>>32232418
Literally no way a runner/non-EX team can win if you just play defensively
Makes the game really P2W since it means you need Deoxys/Reuniclus to actually win trades
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>>32232380
>No playing League until you have 999 AI tickets, letting the timer run to 0.1 and mashing the AI button
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>>32232272
I love doing that just to see how people react. I also do it when I have no chance of losing (sorrounded goal, two mons in reach that can't both be blocked). It's interesting to see how people fight back, some even manage to open the game but more often than not I get lucky spins like it was already decided I should win.

But I swear I'm an honourable man. One time my opponent spun nothing but misses. By the end I had both goals and all my mons on his side. I forfeited because that was just pure bullshit for him.
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>>32232928
Oh but I should add he had a good team, if was Deo or Reuncancer I would have taken it immediately.
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>>32232890
AI isn't instant.
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>Run Latias
>Run double chance
>Dragon Breath, Psychic or vice versa
>Almost always
>Attack opponents Flygon
>Gets Draco Meteor
>Everytime
>Picks Latias
>Luster Purge
>EVERY
>TIME
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my favorite victories are the ones where yveltal rolls Draining Wind and pulls the goalie away and I walk right into the goal
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>>32232380
Switch 1 and 2
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>>32233119
Draining wind seems like it would be bad except for that rare situation. I'd think it would make you get surrounded more often than not.
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I probably shouldn't have won but hahahaha
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>>32233119
>>32233222
>''Ok, i gotta survive this turn and i get a surround and i win this match''
>roll drawing wind
>''Cool!, not only i survived, but i can drag my figure from the other side to over here for a free surround''
>this shit happens
W-why!?
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>>32233667
>3 Jolteon
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>>32234011
How often do you win using paralysis shenanigans?
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>>32232378
how is Metagross easy to kill?
150 Hyper Beam, 90, and dodges to kill confusion.
youre only fucked if you roll yellow.
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>>32234011
You have to drag it along the 3 step path.
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>>32234322
any 100+ attackers can kill it as hyper beam isn't very reliable. yve;tal, zapdos, moltres, blastoise, and beyond are threats

i've had mews and deoxys-s kill my metagross before. i run with goal block now and accept that meta might job
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>>32234011
That's actually hilarious. Yeah it doesn't seem good at all.
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>>32234322
90 BP is pretty mediocre nowadays, otherwise you'd be seeing a lot more Deoxys-N being used on Cosmo Cancer teams. The only thing 90 BP is good for is getting rid of Mews
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>>32234285
i win pretty regularly with paralysis >>32234140
and my 3 jolteons which i jam into the opposing team hoping they paralyze upon death. success is usually based upon paralyzing some figures so its a risky strategy although playing aggressively and baiting people for counter attack wins has been decent for me
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>>32234534
what plates do you use? I'm guessing you're not bothering with Hurdle Jump since Zapdos can move over things and Jolteon can run through them, so maybe Max Revive and Goal Block?
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>leave for work
>come back
>nobody has posted about groudon
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>>32234011
>W-why!?
because it drags mons within 3 steps range
dragging it straight would be 4 steps range

its a really cool move but it hurts more than it helps
they really ought to make it an optionable drag
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>>32235569
So are we only getting Groudon in the gym?
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>>32235569
so why doesn't Groudon have anything cool going for it like the other weathermen?
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>>32235608
probably
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>>32235619
he got break energy and slight other buffs but overall he's still lackluster

he's similar to giratina where he has a massive segment size 110 damage attack, but that's not enough on a 1mp fig really still
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>enemy blob gets hyper beam on first try
>i get brain link on all three spins
my reuni are broken, how do i fix them
>>
Is Land Energy plate worth buying if you have only 1 Zygarde?
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>>32235737
>>
>tfw reuni confuses mew
YOU FOOL, YOU JUST MADE IT IMMORTAL
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>>32235764
>tfw reuni confuses metagross and spends 7 turns trying to kill it while I eventually plod it to his base
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>>32235776
>vs deoxys team
>both hiis entry points blocked
>i roll confuse ray vs deoxys-a slip
>he rerolls confuse ray into white
?????
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>deo a vs ralts
>dimensional slip / imprison
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Which Dragon Claw should I level up?
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>>32236052
The one that won't get you a miss if you're confused???
The real question is why you're leveling up a 60-damage white on a 2MP figure that has a clearly-defined gimmick.
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>>32236204
This is the 5th Flygon I've gotten, might as well level it up for mirror matches in the gym
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>>32236219
Whites automatically lose to purples no matter how big they are.
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>>32236227
Level up the damage, not the size you mong
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>>32236231
White automatically lose to purples no matter how much damage they do.
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>>32236289
>he thinks the opponent will land purple every single time
>he thinks Flygon will be landing on white every single time as well
>he thinks it's not remotely possible for both Flygon to land on white
>in this RNG shitfest of a game
Oh you sweet summer flower, bless your heart
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>>32236289
Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>32233107
>Latias
>Luster Purge
fake news
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>Special Mission: Win 3 League Matches in a row
>>
>dude with 3 latias and 2 latios
>couldn't fucking do anything since they always hit Fly Away

that's gotta be illegal shit
>>
Evolved Charizard or Heatran?
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>>32237045
evolved heatran
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>>32237073
I-is that a thing?
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>>32237119
no
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>>32234011
When draining wind does its job though>>>
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literal retards in this game can't figure out how abilities work
just sat here for the full 5 minutes until he timed out
just fucking jump the opponent it says it right there you fucking idiot
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>>32234628
goal block, switch, counter attack, double chance, and scoop up. I'm tempted to buy a max revive but i like my plates how they are now
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>>32235737
stop using them
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>>32237045
Heatran. All white attack figs suck
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>>32237524
>Deoxys-A laughs in the distance
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>Rush with Whimsicott
>It gets cockblocked by a pokémon
>Start playing defensively
>The opponent moves everyone to my side of the field and plays aggressively
>After this goes for a bunch of turns I just hurdle jump with Whimsicott and I'm basically free to waltz into the goal because the opponent literally can't reach me
>>
Goal Block is fucking cancer, fucking shitters making me waste three more minutes
>>
How the fuck does Heatran's ability work?
>>
name something more frustating than your opponent attacking with their deoxys - S and not getting punished for it
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>>32237536
Deoxys laughs at all figures
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>>32237589
Landing on a small sized blue or miss against a shuppet within range of your goal
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>>32237583
what do you mean?
it does exactly what it says, theres not really any way to explain it clearer
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>>32237589
>Engage your Deo-A against a Deo-A with lower C. Lv
>You spin white, they spin dslip
>Choose to respin
>They get dodge
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>>32237628
Sorry but I find it pretty hard to sympathise with deoxys users
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>>32237624
So like a hurdle jump from the bench for an attack?
Mine won't let me.
Am i missing something?
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>>32237655
no, like a long throw which then makes you attack the mon on your entry.
afterwards if your heatran is still alive it gets put back on the bench

you have to press heatran then press 'activate ability' at the start of your turn
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>>32237650
I don't use it on a full Deoxys team. If you're going to handicap yourself and abstain from using the best attacker in the game so that you can play "honorably" with your piplup and bulbasaur bros in ultra rank then that's fine though
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>>32235578
when yveltal was first released it was pretty OP. 100 power attack with huge segment, small miss, and two two/three star purple moves. Yveltal didn't really have any counters back then since gold attackers were so sparse and mostly had low power attacks below 40. Draining Wind being mostly negative is a good way to keep yveltal from being completely broken. It can't be a defender but it also can't be an aggressive attacker. It needs to stay in the middle of the field.
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>>32237666
That's it
It's my first figure with an ability that needed activating i guess
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>>32237676
thats a pretty shitty strawman
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>>32237491
sounds like a fun deck
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>>32237677
the sad thing is that he has the potential to do some great things with draining wind
he can drag an enemy goalie off the goal or drag enemies off your entry points

but because of how games go its just more likely that your figures will be in range while enemies wont

its annoying that you can't 'drag' the opponent you're fighting in order to not move it but just give it a -1mp marker
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>>32237706
it is. well besides the times were i run dry on paralyzing enemy figures. I hope electivire ends up in the material shop someday so i can have a more reliable option for paralysis although it will be tough to switch a jolteon or zapdos unless it gets its stats buffed
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>>32237819
have you ever tried switching someone out for Dragonair? Magnetic Storm sees like it would be perfect for a paralysis team.
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>>32237819
triple raichu counterdeck when
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>>32237844
I used dragonsir and dedenne before i had 3 jolteons

jolteon has a 40/96 chance of paralysis
dragonair has a 32/96 chance (minus the whole not dying) but 2 mp

>>32237874
i doubt anyone would build an electric counter deck
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Figure concept:

This figure gains +30 when on goal. Even better would be one step away from goal but restricted to your own team.

Who would it be?
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>>32238300
Mega Gothitelle :^)
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>>32238300
t. goal block shitter
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>>32238372
>>32237576

out of all of the legitimate problems with this game why would you complain about goal block
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>>32238425
Not him, but Goal Block is an unnecessary crutch. There's no viable use for it. Using it is more or less the same as hitting forfeit. All it does is artificially extend the length of a game.
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>>32238425
Yes, I unironically find goal block users more irritating than Reuniclus and Deoxys cunts.
Specially if they run annoying stall teams.
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>>32238443
not true at all
its for moving metagross to your goal instead of taking 3 turns to do it while blocking the rest of your guys from moving around
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>>32238506
Metagross isn't a good goalie, though. Again, all you've done is artificially extend the game by making me slog through a sub-par goalie.
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>>32238524
he's only to get his effect, not to be a goalie
goal block is just to get him out of the way and not blocking my own entry
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>>32238506
>Metagross
>Goalie
l m a o
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>>32238541
so why not just move him instead of using Goal Block?
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>>32238541
You used a two-slot plate to do what moving a Metagross to the left one space would have accomplished, good job.
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>>32238558
>>32238565
because he has 1mp and having him one space next to your entry massively reduces your mobility on that side when it comes to hurdles and surrounds
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>>32238590
Can you give an example of how it would do that?
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>>32238590
a little bit of worse mobility sometimes > wasting 2 Plate space
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>>32238604
I,m in bed right now so i wont give a giagram but depending on how the match goes you wont get a chance to move him from that space and he'll be in the way of a 3mp friendly that would have been able to get a surround otherwise
happens fairly often for me if i leave him in the way of things

>>32238628
if you think its useless you shouldnt be bothered by people using it
if it is legitimately useless then they are saving you match time by using it instead of two good slots that could tip the game in their favour
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>>32238709
get a surround? the only thing you could surround from there with a 3MP is something ON your goal.
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>>32238709
Honestly, it just sounds like you need to git gud and learn better positioning and/or predictions
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Goal Block isn't that bad if your team/play is aggressive or lacks mobility

Goal block is often used with meta because the match occasionally forces your hand if your defenses are broken down before you can set up (not common but in ReshiZek+Meta decks it can occur). There's no real reason to use the plate to get metagross on your goal unless you're forced to (block or lose the match) though
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>>32238905
I position well, i swapped goal block for max revive for a while but found too many situations where goal block is better
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>>32238949
>>32238949
>>32238949
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