The problem with the final stages of the Alola starters is that they're fursonas.
They have distinguishing, human-like personality traits that transcend animal status. When I say that I want a Pokémon to be an animal, I don't mean that they shouldn't be objects (objectmons are fine) but that they should be primarily instinct-driven. Decidueye, Incineroar and Primarina have very clear human characteristics (and appearances) as opposed to this, hence why they are fursonas.
This is the root of the starter wars. People like them because they feel like they can "relate" to them and thus by defending the starter they like they are defending themselves as well.
I fucking hate it when people attribute "relatable" to something and like it because of that. I hope Game Freak goes back to making animalistic starters like Feraligatr and never does something like this again.
I really relate to Stunfisk. It's practically my OC.
>>32203683
The only one I take issue with is Incineroar.
Decidueye doesn't look very human to me. I also remember hearing something about a ghost archer in a forest? Hope someone can back me up on that one.
Primarina is a siren so it makes sense that it would look that way to lure trainers.
Incineroar does not have an excuse.
Treecko is cool, calm, and collected - it never panics under any situation. If a bigger foe were to glare at this Pokémon, it would glare right back without conceding an inch of ground.
>>32203683
No. I think no one likes them. In fact I think the reason starter wars exist is because the people are mad and feel betrayed by Gamefreak for giving us this mess of a starter trio. I can totally related to them. The last time I liked a starter was Swampert and then it ends up not only having the worst mega out of the three but also having a nonesensical design AND being cucked out of distribution.
>>32203683
I feel like they could have been better, they resemble humans a bit too much.
Decidueye and Primarina look like they could exist in nature though. Inceniroar is the one that looks and acts way too humanoid.
>>32203697
Basic defense behaviour.
>>32203683
>not instinct driven means they're fursonas
It's unbelievable how idiotic people can be on this site. Every day some new retard proves we can keep making dumber and dumber statements regardless of how horrible the last one was.
>>32203683
>Implying Pokémon are meant to be animals
This is your own headcanon OP
>>32203761
/thread
>>32203683
Feraligatr is my all time favorite starter, and I love all three of the Alola starters.
The problem isn't the design process. The problem is that /vp/ is a bunch of autists and falseflaggers who like to bait autists.
Stop overanalyzing things. These dumb wars don't happen anywhere else because /vp/ stagnates whenever there are no leaks or new content on the horizon.
>>32203929
>Stop overanalyzing things
But I'm INTP.
The problem with the final stages of the Alola starters is thatcan we please ban all Alolan starter threads because holy shit I am fed up with these, enough to not even want to see the starters or their respective fanbases in my sight
>>32203683
>People like them because they feel like they can "relate" to them
>I hope Game Freak goes back to making animalistic starters like Feraligatr
I guess you feel like you can relate to Feraligatr since you're both ugly pieces of trash
>>32204068
As a fan of all three of the Alola starters, I must respectfully sayyes______________________________
The problem with the final stages of the Kalos starters is that they're fursonas.
They have distinguishing, human-like personality traits that transcend animal status. When I say that I want a Pokémon to be an animal, I don't mean that they shouldn't be objects (objectmons are fine) but that they should be primarily instinct-driven. Greninja, Chesnaught and Delphox have very clear human characteristics (and appearances) as opposed to this, hence why they are fursonas.
This is the root of the starter wars. People like them because they feel like they can "relate" to them and thus by defending the starter they like they are defending themselves as well.
I fucking hate it when people attribute "relatable" to something and like it because of that. I hope Game Freak goes back to making animalistic starters like Venusaur and never does something like this again.Look mom, this argument works with this gen also!
>>32203929
yeah, pretty much all of this.
>>32204156
To lazy to copy paste so
>sceptile
>blaziken
>swampert
Look anon it works with my moms starters too!
>>32203683
Anon every single starter had some sort of humanoid characteristic. Even feraligatr.
>>32204156
>Filename
But Greninja is asymetric.
>>32204156
>LOOK MOM SYMMETRY
You do realize the only starters that aren't symmetrical are Torterra and Greninja?
>>32203693
Litten draws power from its emotions, which are get boosted through negative reactions of the people around it. Makes sense it would become a Heel, and why not? Pokemon battles are really similar to the format of pro wrestling.
>>32203683
For me, it's Greninja. Intelligent, nihlistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.
>>32203683
again this shit thred...
the only problem with them is that they have retarded stats and movesets and that there's lack of many held items and moves for competitive usage, that's all
>>32203683
I actually took the cat after seeing his second form. I fucking love smug pokemons
>>32204732
Nice blog barafag
Kys
>>32203683
There are no starters wars. Decidueye and Primarina are mostly well-liked (Primarina less so on /vp/ but in other places it has a positive reception), while Incineroar is very divisive and not as popular as the other two.
Nice try, sealfucker. Approval for it only rose 5% after Primarina was revealed. It's just an incredibly loud and obnoxious minority rooting for the ugly tranny.
Everyone probably expected Pooplio to end up as shitty as it did so they weren't as vocal against it as they were with the bara bait.
>>32205117
At least Primarina is usable.
>alakazam
>ledian
>blaziken
>lopunny
>zoroark
>delphox
>>32205179
Kek
Alolatards are the actual problem
>>32203683
>human-like personality traits that transcend animal status
Don't all Pokemon though?
It's been long established that Pokemon are sapient and far more intelligent than real life animals.
>>32204991
/vp/ loves primarina, it's just the Troll Force pretending otherwise
same cucks as the loli bashers most likely
>>32205179
there is literally nothing wrong with any of these
>>32204991
I don't know, Rowlet (and, by extension Decidueye) and Primarina get hate thread from the same anon over and over but other than that they seem to have a huge following on /vp/
>>32205209
exactly.
>>32205234
>same anon
If that's actually true, then that's an inhuman level of autism, I don't think it's even possible.
>>32205234
The owl, I don't think so. The last thread that wasn't rampant with shitposting died a quiet death pretty fast.
>>32205208
Primarina is shit. Worst starter ever
>>32205368
Here we go again
>>32205368
>Water/Fairy typing
>Bad
>>32204756
>implying is ledit ,you underage,
>>32205329
That's funny considering it has the most fanart.
I guess fanart is also not very accurate at measuring popularity, or /vp/ really is a contrarian.
>>32205429
There's no way to measure the number of fan art, all three of the starters this gen get a ton
>>32205434
Pixiv, but it's still not convincing.
>>32205429
Having a lot of fanart just measures popularity among fanartists
>>32205440
Pixiv has like 5% of the total fan art, it really isn't
>>32205376
Shittiest design ever
>>32205447
But Pixiv is the only site that matters.
>>32205486
Even then, the difference is really really small
>>32203683
>>32203693
>lure trainers
>>32205533
>lure trainers
>>32204672
Is that a porn comic scene?
>>32205134
Wee
>>32203683
>They have distinguishing, human-like personality traits that transcend animal status
Well yeah that is how pokemon tend to be you dumb shit.
>>32203693
Primarina seems to resemble a selkie more than a siren. Or maybe a mix of the two.
>>32203761
>>Implying Pokémon are meant to be animals
>implying Pokemon aren't meant to retain connection to source material
>>32205477
>>32203730
>Primarina
>existing in nature with the luscious hair, pearl and starfish decorations and flesh frills everywhere
>>32205970
>a hoody wearing owl who uses a bow-and-arrow is somehow natural
Nice double standards, owlcuck
>>32205970
>>32205979
I sometimes ask myself if/why you guys are even Pokémon fans
>>32203730
Humans exist in nature, dumbshit.
>>32205979
And glasses and a bow-tie with wings like THIS
>>32205991
>implying humans are pokemon
>>32206000
And Pokemon are capable of possessing humanoid characteristics.
>>32203929
You really really have bad taste if you love all 3 Alola starters.
Get off Gamefreak's dick and stop being a contrarian.
>>32206035
>Contrarian
>When most people love the Alolan Starters
>>32205970
>>32205991
>>32206000
Pokemon aren't limited to being feral animals though. Heck, the majority of pokemon designs are supposed to be "unnatural" in a way.
>>32206035
I only love all three Alolan starters first stage. Second stage, only love Torracat. Hate all three final evos.
>>32205999
God those wings are awful.
>>32205979
The hood is probably a plant on symbiosis with the owl. It can possibly grow in a kind of hood-like shape naturally
>>32205368
Seriously, the only one that even comes close to its awfulness is Incineroar.
What a pathetic generation for the starters designs.
>>32206078
Stop falseflagging to make us owlbros look bad you fucking barafag
>>32206049
You still have shitty taste, sorry.
>>32206090
>we've come to the point where we are now falseflagging about falseflaggers
>>32206090
Decidueye is average for a starter's design, the other two is just laughable.
I don't give a shit about falseflagging or whatever that dumb crap you losers do around here. I'm just speaking the truth.
>>32204156
Gen 7 starters were basically Gen 6 but shittier.
>>32206123
This anon speaks the truth. I don't get why so many owlbros are concerned for their reputation among the furfag Shitten and Poopliofags. Why would a man of excellent taste care for the opinions of degenerates?
>>32206123
>>32206184
>I-it's average at best but at least better than the other two!
>when most fans of the others are actually incredibly happy about them
it must really suck being an owlcuck
>>32206219
You must've talked about other Owl pokemon.
>not shitty roothoot
>>32206219
That was the most obvious falseflag.
>>32206263
Are there even any other owlbros left here? It sucks how so many were driven away because of other shitty starterfags ganging up on them. Why do we always have to be the victims just because jealous fags can't accept our starter is objectively the best?
>>32206263
falseflagging so much has brought people actually believing that, then, since it's all I read
>>32206334
I imagine most left because of the constant shitposting from the furfags. Fuck them.
>>32206361
Did you say furfags?
>mfw all three were made shit on purpose in order to make Greninja look even better, despite getting a Special Snowflake NotMega Form that already accomplishes that to begin with
>>32206387
Disgusting. I hope I never get near an owlfag ever in my life.
>>32206387
>tfw perfect in design, concept, competitive, and cosplay
designs have been slipping for a while
>>32206398
Oh god the furfags are here too
>>32206035
nah
they're cool
>>32203929
>stop thinking too hard
>if you think abou them, you wont like them!
>>32204156
>implying gen 7 having faults means gen 6 doesn't have the same problems
>>32206463
What are you even trying to say?
Read the post again. Slowly, this time.
>>32206399
ftfy
I legitimately like corny ass wrestling shit like Lucha Libre, WWE, and Ive even gone to a local murder match in an old warehouse (I live in a pretty redneck part of the country) and I can honestly say I love Incineroar. First time I havent boxed my starter on my first playthrough since gen 4. The dudes also one of the only starters I can honestly say is a bro. Fuck Furfags ruining this monster, they can all eat an oil drum of dicks.
>>32205201
First off, there's the physical aspect. Tauros is not human-like in the slightest. The point is that they're all humanoid this time, not just one (like Blaziken kind of was).
>>32206682
Having humanoid elements =/= being humanoids.
>>32206049
yeah they need to fire the artists
>>32205999
>retards will defend these retarded designers
>>32206734
New style Pidgey is still the most adorable little fucker.
>>32206219
You're an idiot. I feel bad for your parents.
>>32206815
Same to you, buddy.
>>32206750
cute
>>32206734
The new Pokemon are for the most part passable or fine. I just have problems with Decidueye's noodle arm anatomy. It really does look like a human in an owl costume more and more; the feathers on the wings act more cape-like and there's no actual bone structure.
Also cannot learn Fly. The wings become nonfunctional for flying purposes. At best, it can only glide.
Why did you idiots revive this thread
>>32206734
>>32206399
>>32206734
We need a drawfriend to go over every pokemon after gen 2 and remake them using the classic art style. If I saw Zoura as this rather then it's cone for legs form, I would have actually played with it in gen 5.
>>32204030
>tfw ISTP