If you could change anything about Gen 7, what would it be?

Make Ultra Space at least like the Distortion World.

>>32099024
Remove starters.

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Make Hau more interesting.
Better than your group of friends in X and Y, and he had a few funny lines, but overall he was just kind of bland.

Add more new Pokemon so the roster is atleast 110.

Give Kommo-o physical attacks and Shell Smash

Change Silvally's stats to 100 each

Give Komala an evo

Give Cutiefly a 3rd evo

Add more cameos in the Battle Tree(not changing it to BF or PWT because I'm hoping we'll get a 3rd game).

I wanted the ability to kiss Hau

Remove most of the gen 1 pokemon and replace them with good ones

erase chicken and starters

no other changes needed

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>>32099024
>Include Fusion

>>32099024
I wish Poni was bigger and the other islands had postgame areas.

>>32099024
Goodbye Lillie

Rework it from the ground up to fundamentally be more like the Sevii Islands.

Remove the bullshit and ultra-prominent narrative, focus on level design that services gameplay instead of realism, make plenty of secret and optional areas, and make it a whole lot bigger.

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Ability to meet Guzma at the Pokemon Center Café now and then in post-game.
Make Silvally have 100 across the board, with access to Extremespeed, Recover and its Type able to be changed with Z Crystals like Arceus.
Kommo-o gets Shell Smash and a good Fighting STAB.
Bewear gets Drain Punch.
Missing Mega Stones aren't locked away and are able to be obtained by talking to certain NPCs with the corresponding Pokemon first in your Party. "Oh! I see you have a Banette. That's a great Pokemon, hm? Here, you can have this Mega Stone."

Just off of the top of my head.Yes, I am a gross husbandofag.

>Make fishing like past games, including different fishing rod levels
>Make new Pokemon more common; 1% is bullshit
>Have the national dex in-game
>All Mega stones available
>Bring the bicycle back
>More Alola forms
>More post-game areas with trainers and higher leveled wild Pokemon
>Have all past rivals/gym leaders/E4 in the Battle Tree
>Make Festival Plaza more like BW's Join Avenue

>>32099024
Rebattle-able post game trainers. Include double battles.
Ultra Space being an actual world rather just 1 room.
Skill/Luck based facility like Battle Factory.
Silvally's stats to 100 each or change its ability to a Multitype-clone with Z-crystals.
Give E4 full teams.
Nerf terrain damage buffs to 30%.
More new mons. Maybe around 20 more.
Change story line so the side characters have actual character development. Make the UBs story relevant.
Return Super-Training. Change friendlist mechanics because it's currently trash.
Ice specialist who give you Icium-Z.
PURCHASEABLE JOHTO BALLS! Make them available at the minimum by friend points. Making them as available for $5000 is fine too.

>>32099033

I want this so much. Also more UBs

>>32099024

>add actual puzzles or multiples paths to routes so they're not just straight lines
>expand ultra space into being a dungeon
>expand mount lanakila into being an actual victory road
>finish the Lusamine plot during the raid on Aether HQ
>Poni island is focused on beating the final trials and preparing for the elite 4
>battle UBs throughout the story
>actual postgame, such as a 5th island

Most of my complaints made me realize that S&M were heavily hindered by hardware limitations. There just wasn't enough room for large amounts of content, or GF just sucks at optimizing. I guess both are true.

>>32099386
>GF just sucks at optimizing
It's this, and only this. You could fit both Sun and Moon on a single 3DS card.

>>32099386
Max 3DS cartridge space is 8GB, Sun and Moon are 3.2 GB
for comparison X and Y were 1.7 GB
there was plenty enough room for large amounts of content, it's just that GF fucking sucks
there's also a fuckton of duplicate files

>make islands big as fuck, with more cities and routes with actual exploration and sidepaths
>decrease linearity and encourage branching off the main path
>optional water routes between all of the islands with some settlements, underwater ruins, caves and exploration
>remove the red flags from the rotomdex map and use ingame objects to indicate places you should save
>coherent road system throughout the islands that makes sense instead of roads that lead to nothing or routes, worst example of this being exeggutor express
>re-add all the cut areas and incorporate them into the game
>flying trial with kahili at the golf course
>military base on 3rd island that later helps you in the story
>add a new settlement to poni island, to give it some human population
>greatly expand poni island and poni canyon, and make the final trial culminate at the altar
>turn ultra space from a room into an actual dungeon at least as large as poni canyon
>make victory road an actual victory road

Bump because this is an interesting thread

>Sevii Islands are your post-game area where you can catch Kanto forms instead of Alola forms
>Wela Volcano Park, Ultra Space, and Mount Lanakila are redesigned into full on dungeons
>Remove the bus. You now have a massive route to explore on your way to the Hokulani Observatory
>Alola forms are more diverse and not specifically for Gen I
>Add in all the removed areas
>Change the AI so that you actually have to try in order to win
>Remove the Gen V Exp system it's garbage
>You can battle Trial captains once you become Champion. They'll have endgame level teams.

Following Pokemon. It's all I want. Please.

Here's a fucking idea for you

Why are certain colored clothes version exclusive? Don't fucking do that

>>32100497
this was the fucking worst
and i was really disappointed you couldn't color chicken's default hat either

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Make him do something, anything, but don't just waste his character.

Add the high-level restaurant from Lumiose
The Battle Buffet is a disgrace

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I would have put in the choice of having a male protagonist. Only female choices is a little unusual.

>>32099024
After having not beaten it yet and still fucking around before catching Nebby, these are my complaints:
>Island 'dexes need variety. Why the fuck is Poni Island almost complete immediately upon arrival.
>Everything about Hau is awful.
>other trainers only having two Pokemon per team until over halfway through the game
>why are some areas reserved for the Elite Four champion when the decision to assemble an elite four happened an island prior

I'm sure there's more but I'm too tired to think of them.

>>32099752
>changing alola forms because they are only for genwun pokemon
>adding kanto forms
pick one

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>>32099057

>>32099024
I want this GF

Delete SOS, put hordes
NationalDex
NavDex

>>32099024
>Remake the islands' routes so that they're like Melemele's circlular structure
>Add more explorable places like Brooklet Hill caves and Lillie's house
>Have the rest of the Hawaiian islands as post game

>More variety of regional mons
>more postgame besides UB/Tapus hunt and battle tree
>also more known trainers on battle tree
>less restricted areas and more of exploration
>get rid of that plaza dogshit
>Lillie didn't left :'^(
>implement old features instead of removing them such as the Latio/as' exploration through the skies but instead we are riding on Charizard's back (if you want to, if not you can skip it to fly away normally), XY's training method and actually sit on any chairs again
>Change some stats on most of the alolamons not named Tapus nor UB to make them at least a bit competitive
>it applies to the staters which are slow and useless as fuck

>>32100944
>Hordes better than SOS
If Game Freak would stop being retards and fix the way Pokeballs work, SOS would be infinitely better than Hordes ever were

That said, the fact there's no National Dex is a sin. I hate how they're skimming out on staples since Gen III. Regional Dexes were a mistake

>>32100883
You do realise that guy means the normal forms of the Pokemon with Alolan Forms, right?

>>32099024
Make everything more visually interesting.
I like it when things I visually interesting. Towns and routes. This is what makes exploring fun for me. Unova and Kalos had really interesting town designs, with different themes and all. Kalos had interesting routes, like the one with the stones jutting out and the one where it was always raining and abandoned building and a marsh with marsh Pokemon and all that. It was cool. That's what I want. I think the region is designed great. Everything is interconnected and different islands being a things allows you to feel the interconnected world soon and it's awesome. Like Dark Souls, almost. But it looks boring. There's just plain towns, plain routes. Make it visually interesting.

Get rid of the fucking Pelipper and fix encounter rates.
No really, fuck Wingull and Peliper. They're fucking everywhere. Get rid of them. If you're going to make a Pokemon so common, have it be a new Pokemon form Alola. Not fucking Peliper. The new Pokemon, the ones I want to see, are rare as fuck, while older Pokemon I'm already used to are just fucking everywhere. Encounter rates are fucked in this game. Fix it.

More Dungeons like the last one.

Make SOS Battles rarer.
They happen way too fucking often. Literally every battle is a SOS Battle. It's cool, I like SOS Battles, but not every battle needs to be one. If I just want to catch a Pokemon, it's a fucking hassle. You're taking a cool idea and making it infuriating.

A better way to level up.
Really, just give me a better way to level up. XY had shit difficulty, but that worked in your favor as it made grinding easier. It's really fucking hard to get to 100 level in SM. Make it easier.

Something else to do.
I love SM, I think it's the best one as far as battles go. There's a lot of hard and interesting battles that require your attention. I want something else. Contests or anything. Something else to do before postgame.

These are the things I would like to see.

I guess it's more how the game handled it rather than region itself, for one I felt like everything was thrown into the game leaving nothing to show, while Kalos as generic as it was gave a different sense of scale and mystery.

Also stop being shitheads about how you give away hold items required for evolution...

>>32099064
He was pretty much the same, but he was only one guy and not three.

>>32099129
Poni felt pretty barren.

>>32099430
A lot of unused items from previous games that'll never get used, they just copy/paste stuff basically.

>>32100497
My problem with that weren't the colors but the clothing itself, I felt it lacked variety, I understand they mostly had certain stuff to match the theme of the region but still.

During post-game, volcano off-shore erupts and makes a tiny new island, and you can catch Heatran and other lavamons there.

>>32101106
>It's really fucking hard to get to 100 level in SM
Which makes hyper training a little useless.

>>32100867
>other trainers only having two Pokemon per team until over halfway through the game
This, I didn't find SM to be as hard as people claim, a little harder than XY but that's it.

>>32101176

But it's not that hard. Rare Kitchens makes the process so much faster, especially for Tapus and UBs who need hyper training the most.

-Bring back PSS.
-Assassinate whoever came with the idea to have certain Pokémon only show up in SOS + weather.

more than fucking 5 route themes

>>32101191
Join Avenue's cafes and dojos were better. More levels per day if you have one of each, it's easier to get the money you need for those services than the FC you need for Rare Kitchens, and no level restrictions.

>>32101191
On XY I found it was very easy to reach level 100 on Battle Chateau using the writs and invitations.

>>32101196
fucking this

>>32099024
Made male clothes available to female and vice versa

>>32101106
So much agree on getting rid of Pelishit.

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>>32100826
you got any more of those?

Can we just remake the entire map? It's pretty shit. Then we can make it bigger and put in other stuff in the process, too.

>>32100989
GF fixing errors. Never. So, hordes > SOS

>>32101879
This potentially sounds like /vp/'s next meme project.

Giving Game Freak more time to do their game
All the unused content, UB side-quest, Terminus cave with nothing in it,and the lack of Gladion/Type:Null relationship in the game made me realize that they didn't have enough time to put it all in.

>>32101881
If hordes and SOS were in the same game, hordes would be the superior method of EV training, being about twice as fast assuming that you don't go through horseshit like the Pokemon's calls for help not happening often and/or going constantly unanswered, or the species you need not showing up when you sweet scent up a horde. I have the calculation somewhere, but I can't remember where.

>>32101894
This is why B2W2 needed another year before XY and ORAS needed to be followed up by Z to give GF more time to work on SM and also solve XY's problems.

>>32101894
>the lack of Gladion/Type:Null relationship in the game
You say it like that was a bad thing.

>>32101905
If you're making Z anyways, just hold back ORAS to make it good since Z will solve XY's issues.

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>>32101907
It is. I mean come on, we don't even get a scene where Type:Null evolve during the Climax at Aether HQ, you just discover it before the league without any mention of it.
Type:Null was advertised and feel like something it was something important plot-related, but it feels that all that was scrapped because they didn't get enough time to develop all that .
It's the same for UBs. I'm pretty sure the initial plan wasn't to throw them all out in a tiny side quest. It's a big shame that UBs weren't actually uncatchable bosses during and catchable after the main plot

>>32101942
Type: Null was an experiment, he stole from mommy and bonded with it, that's all there's to it, the game already had enough plot getting in the way of actually playing the game, it didn't need more plot getting in the way.

>>32100867
>Everything about Hau is awful.
You shut your whore mouth, my little husbando is perfect

>>32101942
>Type:Null was advertised and feel like something it was something important plot-related
Not really. It was just revealed normally in a trailer like any other Pokemon, and then later revealed in CoroCoro. The only thing "special" treatment it got was its ability, which was also just advertised and revealed to be just another ability. It never got any special treatment.

I'm not trying to say Null or Silvally SHOULDN'T have gotten better roles. I think they should and could've. But Null was never painted to be anything extra special. It was a Pokemon created by humans, suffered at the hands of humans, was saved by a human and grew to love humans. It fulfilled its purpose in the story. It could've had a better role, sure, but it was never suggested it would.

>>32099024
Make a wider selection of wild Pokemon. Gen VI was so good in this regard and it's kind of a shame that this gen took a step back.

>>32102148
Gen VI having a good selection was great but it was at the expense of new Pokemon being kind of underwhelming and the routes being way too fucking cluttered

I'm glad Gen VII fixed the cluttered issue, but making the new Pokemon incredibly rare or uncommon was a terrible idea

>>32099386
>S&M were heavily hindered by hardware limitations.
Yeah no. Looking at everything you have there and other games on the system it's pretty clear that GF is just unwilling to make these additions to the game.

Do you do this a lot? Because there's always one retard that blames it on the hardware.

>>32101191
>Rare Kitchens makes the process so much faster
The problem is that getting the best kitchen in near random and that it uses FC instead of money. Not to mention there's a level where it stops you from using them.

>>32102153
And yet playing through SM I felt like I mostly relied in older Pokémon, some of which I hadn't really used before(like Magnezone) unlike on XY where I used many new Pokémon.

>>32100989
>If Game Freak would stop being retards and fix the way Pokeballs work, SOS would be infinitely better than Hordes ever were
What do poke balls have to do with the fact that SOS calls and pokemon appearing from it being pure chance? The reason hordes were better is because they gave you the ability to force it on your own and in ORAS there was an area that gives you a 100% chance for a horde of each stat.

>>32099386
>Most of my complaints made me realize that S&M were heavily hindered by hardware limitations.
Have you literally never played another 3DS game or what?

>>32102153
>but it was at the expense of new Pokemon being kind of underwhelming
Are you sure you aren't mixing up 6 and 7 because new pokemon took priority in 6 for the most part.

>>32101106
This guy, this guy gets it.

>>32099024
Make all those areas they didn't finish accessible (like the volcano interior, power plant, etc).

Hard mode as an option to boost difficulty levels.

Flesh out Poni Island and make painter girl a real Captain. Make golf girl a Captain.

Completely fresh people for the E4 with Kukui still the champ.

Way more Battle Tree cameos, and don't make it so isolated on the map.

>>32102180
Pokeballs are coded as battle enders. Because of that, if multiple shinies appear in either Hordes or SOS, you can't catch them all because Game Freak's retarded coding

The issue with hordes is the fact that they're coded to be fully random whether they work or not. If Adrenaline Orbs forced SOS you can keep a battle going longer than just five added Pokemon per horde. The mechanics are there, but Game Freak are lazy programmers that rely on RNG

>>32099024
Fix Null and Sivallys abilities to allow them to use Z moves. Integrate them and Gladion into the story and maybe receive one at the end of the Aether plotline.

Give all major encounters one extra pokemon. Hau and Gladion should have 5 mon by the final encounter. Guzma should AT LEAST have 3 mon at Shady house.

Full proper movesets.

Make Mount Lanakila should be an actual Victory Road, with Trainers. Waaaaay to short

Expand Ultra space.

>>32102218
Whoops, I meant the issue with SOS

Hordes my issue is the fact you need an overleveled Pokemon to one-shot all 5 and to rely on that shitty EXP share. With the buff to the EV Power items, it plus Pokerus can net you 20 EVs per Pokemon killed and you can keep the chain going with SOS battles

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>>32099024
Make the interior of the volcano on the second island, the tidal pools, and the power plant explorable.

Make the golf course accessible with a golf minigame.

Actually be able to Surf through the ocean in the middle of the region, with numerous smaller islands and an extensive network of diving areas to explore.

The Electrical Trial was lame. Make it so that you gave to lure Vikavolt into a generator room to restore power.

Give Poni Island an actual goddamned Fairy Trial. Then give Poni a Dragon Trial with its own trial captain and area and everything.

Let all trial captains and Kahunas be able to be rechallenged with full teams post-game.

Give the games a dedicated Ice user.

Exeggutor Island was a lame way to get the Sun/Moon Flute. Make the way to get get it involve traversing a unique, puzzle-based dungeon on Poni Island itself.

Likewise, the final confrontation at Aether was more or less several linear hallways. Make it more interesting by having it be a trap where Lusamine tries to capsize the island with the player on it, and you have to travel through the guts of Aether to stop her.

Make Ultra Space a decently-sized dungeon, at least. Have wild Nihilego harass you as you navigate it.

Make Nihilego!Lusamine the final opponent of Lusamine's last battle.

Restore Triple, Rotational, and Inverse battle formats.

Give Komala, Bruxish, and Comfey evolutions. Also, make Passimian and Oranguru a shared pre-evo.

Make Rockruff's evolution time based.

Make at least 15 new Megas, focusing on gens V and VI. Also, don't beat around the bush and give gen VII a Mega evolution or two right off the bat.

More regional variants. Preferably, give each set of Pokemon introduced in each gen at least two.

Make DexNav and Super Training permanent series features until we can come up with something better. Also, reduce Hyper Training's minimal level to 50 and make Bottlecaps easier to acquire.

>>32102209
How about having an actual 8th captain? Poni was basically, captain with no trial, and trial with no captain, they could've just used Ryuki for that even.

>>32102224
>you need an overleveled Pokemon to one-shot all 5 and to rely on that shitty EXP share
Do you even know what you're taking about?
Hordes are scaled to an average meaning that every mon involved is a fairly low level for the area not to mention moves that hit all targets do full damage making it fairly easy to kill them all in one shot and reap the rewards with a mon that's underleveled for the area. The exact opposite is true for SOS you need a Pokemon that's strong enough to take on the mon of that area because they don't scale down in fact because of the IV increase in subsequent chains mon get stronger the longer you continue

As for the EXP share, you should be utilising it regardless of the method of EV training.

In any case in terms of speed and reliability hordes will always be the better method.

Riding pokemon for HMs/bicycle makes alot of sense but its disappoinitng you can't ride your own, each one should count as one of the various types and be useable with generics only filling slots you don't have (or just let us assign stuff from the box god damn)

>>32102422
There's also the issue that things like Lapras and Sharpedo felt sort of redundant in the end.

>>32099024
You can only play as a female protag.

>>32107251
why