What bothers me more than them all having fairly humaoid forms

It has always been in this way, just thinking about the primitve clothes of croconaw, or the cannons of blastoise.

die baragfag

>>32083979
XD original thread never seen before

>>32083979

meanwhile at gamefreaks HQ

>"we want the Tumblr, Undertale and Steven Universe audience"

Pokemon is dead.

>>32083979
They're becoming more humanoid so that merch is easier to make. Better get used to it and just don't expect anything from starters anymore. But atleast Greninja is okay, it still fairly resembles a frog. The others are furries though... so yeah. Just abandon the starter train and you're fine.

They belong in a box

>>32083979
>Also why is primarina wearing a staryu embryo in its hair?

They're headphones dummy

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>it's another one of these threads
I kind of agree on the clothing bit, but for a different reason

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>>32083979

>>32084015
Inb4
>they are unnatural XD!!
When 80% of the people don't even realize it

>>32084030
Worst hitmon

>>32084030
>gen 1 is full of shit designs
What else is new?

>>32084035
Before Hitmontop came along, absolutely.

>>32083998
>X is so merch is easier to make!
My favorite meme criticism.

>>32083998
fag

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>>32083998
activating almonds

>>32084689

It's not like he's completely wrong though, you'd have to be in pretty big denial not to see the human/role association in the most recent starters.

>>32084723
too late my man, these almonds are ready to go

>>32083989
He's gotta point, OP. Even Infernape, Empoleon, Oshawott, Dewott, Pignite, and Emboar have a clothing like appearance.

>>32084778
All terrible designs tbqh

>Decidueye is "humanoid"
>even though we got an actual humanoid bird starter in Gen 3

>>32084723
there's a big difference between what he said and what is true about what he said.

>>32085797
Blaziken isn't a fucking archer with gross fingers

>>32085842
so? It's a martial arts fighter. Still human

Whatever, Anon.

No one fucking cares.

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>>32084030
>>32085656
still shit

>>32085842
Blaziken is literally my mom's transvestite.

>>32085877
You cared enough to bump the thread on this dead board :^)

>>32083979
Only half of them really have a humanoid shape though. Greninja and Decidueye are basically frog and owl shaped respectively, and Primarina is a seal mermaid thing.

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>>32083995
>listing the same fanbase 3 times

>>32083979
I like how the school shooter bird isnt mentioned

>>32086071
>being this easily triggered
Who's the numale?

>>32083995
It sure is, you should just leave the franchise and its fanbases now while you can so you feel better about yourself.

>>32086092
Decidueye

>>32086092
>Taking the bate faster than decidueye.

>>32085842
Blaziken is definitely the most Human-like starter we've ever had. Most starters are at the most 40% human / 60% animal, but Blaziken kinda feels 70% human. Decidueye is much more bird-like, even if it take smaller liberties with the fingers.

>>32085842
Blaziken is extremely humanoid, Decidueye just has feather 'fingers'. And how does shooting arrows make it humanoid in any way, do you not know what humanoid means?

>>32083979
There is literally nothing humanoid about Decidueye, shitmonger.

>>32086131
It's not that hard to outspeed Decidueye.

>>32086189
the point is about the clothing more than their barely humanoid characteristics. Did you read anything past "humanoid" or were you too triggered to press on forward?

>>32086131
>I-I was only pretending to "bate"

>>32086189
>>32086180
>fingers
>hood
>archery theme
>glasses
>runs like a human even though it's a bird
>cape
Come on now. It's not as humanoid as Incineroar, Chesnaught and Delphox, but I'd say it's not completely "animal" either.

>>32086228
fingers aren't humanoid, and clothing is very debatable. I agree it is humanoid but besides the running argument, those are very bad reasons.

>>32086228
so anything with a hood, archery theme, glasses or a cape is automatically a humanoid? gotcha. i could give a slug a hood, glasses and a cape. doesn't make it humanoid my dude.

>>32086239
I mean, animals don't wear hoodies or use arrows. I'm not even saying it like it's a bad thing, I like Decidueye, Primarina and Greninja and I think they are not-humanoid enough for it not to bother me, but saying there's nothing humanoid about them is wrong

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>>32086239
Still has clear fingers and clothing. A god damn hoodie. How is it "debatable"?

Decidueye's humanoid look creeps me out more than Incineroar and Primarina's, desu. Primarina can just lose the accessories and Incineroar go on all fours to suddenly be a lot less humanoid, but Decidueye will always have those strange fingers, glasses, and clothes.

>>32086189
where do you live that normal shaped birds can wield a shortbow

>>32086288
>How is it "debatable"?
I meant clothing being humanoid as something debatable, not that it doesn't have those. Fingers aren't humanoid.

>>32086284
but just wearing stuff doesn't make it human. At least that's how I see it, don't know why giving an animal a sweater makes it humanoid.

>>32086325
...The fact that the sweater is part of the animal itself? Paired with glasses, human behavior and the other stuff I mentioned?

>>32083979
Incineroar and Primarina skip past any "clothing" complaints easy though.

Incineroar's flame belt only activates when it's battling with the implication it's gone otherwise, and everyone and their mother draws the gray torso and especially the "sleeve rips" as fur.

Primarina just drops the hair accessories and that's that.

Meanwhile Decidueye's coke bottle glasses and hoodie and flesh-strings to control the hoodie are literally part of it, and I find that creepy.

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>>32086228
Humanoid is about shape, you idiot. Decidueye looks like an owl, having a pattern that looks like glasses on its face doesn't change that.

>>32086325
>owlfags are so desperate to defend the design they ignore that an owl having fingers in general is weird as fuck

>>32086348
Is that owl gonna run and shoot arrows with its fingers? Where's the hood?

>>32086358
Where's the flesh strings to control the hoodie? Where's the much longer and thicker legs that let it run like a human?

>>32086332
It's still clothing, it's not inherently humanoid. And yeah, the human behavior is obviously humanoid, I'm not denying that or that decidueye is humanoid, just that clothing on animals isn't humanoid.

>>32086351
I don't understand, yeah its weird but it isn't humanoid. I'm not an owlfag or trying to defend the design. I know you're falseflagging but you could at least try to put some kind of minimal effort into it dude.

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>>32086288
>>32086336
>>32086358
>>32086363

>>32086348
i cant find its thumbs

Decidueye got more clothing than the other 2 combined. Incineroar is just a cat standing up and prim is a seal with hair. School shooter birdfags btfo. So of still have time to get to a school.

>>32086368
I guess the clothing bother some people more than other. Again, I don't even think those "humanoids" features are a bad thing to Decidueye's design (or the other starters I mentioned) since they are used in a smart way and mesh well with their theme, I just see why people say that they are too humanoid for their taste - and disagree.

>>32086388
Grammarowlfag, don't even try to falseflag. Everyone knows it's you.

ITT: Retards who don't know what humanoid means

>>32086388
What is with the school shooter meme? It doesn't even make sense

>>32086434
I'm okay with Decidueye but I gotta admit it really looks like the stereotype of one, what with the whole edgy-hoodie-nerd thing look that people keep pointing out.

>>32086434
It's an Alolan Starter, my friend. They all have their dankest memes.

>>32086391
Yeah, I guess so. At least most pokemon dont look like they have clothes so they can be happy

>>32086423
doesn't humanoid means it has human-like features? mostly exclusive human features like the thin bipedal body.

>>32086434
It has a edge hood and its evolution line is the scared nerd that shoots arrows.

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>>32086336
>Incineroar and Primarina skip past any "clothing" complaints easy though
Yeah sure

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>>32086136
If you compare Blaziken to the animal it's based on,you will see that it isn't as anthropomorphised as some of the other starters.

>>32086786
I've dealt with lots of kinds of Gamefowl. Blaziken is still more like a man with rooster features instead of a rooster with human features. The fact that it has 2 pairs of talons instead of wings for some reason is the main piece.

>>32086434
People need to make stupid nicknames for Decidueye to match the other starters. They don't make that much sense because Decidueye doesn't really have that many obvious characteristics to parody.

>>32086835
Like how Charizard's wings mean it's not based on a salamander. Of course.

>>32086136
>>32086786
>>32086835
Although thinking about it a bit more, it's likely that Incineroar surpassed it in terms of human-like projection. That thing genuinely looks like a football mascot.

>>32086843
They are all equally stupid, nu-male is pretty good imo

>>32086786
except blaziken has hands, what look to be more human legs instead of digitgrade legs and disco pants to put them in
A beak and scaly clawed limbs are just about the only feature blazoned shares with that chicken

>>32086782
>sun and moon has no humanoid egg group

>>32086782
The only clothing incineroar has is shirt and belt. The rest is stripes for it being a tiger.
Decidueye has a tux, bow, glasses, and a large hoodie it magically grew that the previous 2 evos didnt have.

>>32086228
>>32086288
Aerodactyl has fingers too, retard.

>>32087044
WOW, you really showed 'em!!

Geez this thread is a bit funky, surely you guys are more reasonable than to argue with other kids on a pokemon board?

That being said, gen 7 starters are universally more attractive to me than the gen 6 ones, with primarina and decidueye being the best starter designs since gen 4 (imo)

>>32087123
Completely agreed, good taste anon

>>32087038
>The rest is stripes for it being a tiger
Kind of like Decidueye's parts are just feathers and stripes. His leaf hood is no different from Incineroar's fire belt.

>>32087230
>Belt taking up only the waste
>Hoodie covering entire body

Yeah seems the same

>>32087038
They're both shit and both equally bad in the clothing department.
Also no one mentioned decidueye you insecure numale barafag :^)

>>32087264
>>32086782

>>32086288
WOKE

>>32086874
Not really. Incineroar is muscular, thus the bara meme. Primarina looks very feminine but is 87.5% male, thus the transgender meme. Decidueye's just an owl that shoots arrows, there's nothing about it that suggests nu-male. People could have come up with something more fitting/appropriate than that.

>>32087338
Decidueye is literally a nu-male

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>>32087264
Some species of owls do have feathers that make them look like they're wearing a hood. The Pokemon design is just an exaggeration.

>>32086874
>>32087354
can someone explain the meme? I've heard people said its because it looks like it has glasses but that isn't really an answer. Why don't you make fun of it's stupid legs or something?

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>>32087462
Nu-males are men (with "men" being used as loosely as possible) lacking self-respect who are completely devoid of any masculinity and will jump at any moment to defend women online for feminist brownie points while falsely believing that in return, they'll receive sexual favors. They're a step above "Nice Guys" in terms of beta they are.

Nu-males are almost exclusively white (although some exceptions exist), ultra liberal, hipsters, wear some form of thick framed glasses with a matching obnoxious beard, submissive but outspoken (only online), in their 20-30s, harbor any form of self-hatred (white guilt, male guilt, etc.), either are thin as a twig or are overweight and very active on social media. They're often pseudo-intellectuals and will opt to blocking as their form of arguing online to any opposing opinions or valid criticism in order to protect their fragile egos.

It's the literal description of Decidueye, if you disagree either you are either blind or a fanboy

>>32087500
Sounds like owl fans before a ton of them got BTFO.

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>>32083979
Is this theory still good?

>>32087536
Where is CLAW WEAPON?

i like this though actually.

>>32087536
Thematically yeah, but it doesn't make sense for the "Healer/Bard" to be the one that hits the hardest of the six, I think

>>32087500
I don't see the connection at all.
I must be blind, because I'm a Ghostfag who is mad that Decidueye gets to join the party without deserving it, so I have my own beef with the owl. But the comparison to Nu-males is reaching so hard it's ridiculous.

>>32087561
Her shitty singing just hits that hard, I guess?

>>32087536
If the owl lined up better with the red mage, I'd be tempted to do a graphic edit of the original Final Fantasy.

>>32087500
I think the problem is Barafag and Tranny both refer to outward elements of Incineroar and Primarina. Incineroar IS a beefcake, and Primarina IS mostly male. But you have to make a whole bunch of shit up and create your own character of Decidueye to make the nu-male thing work.

>>32087561
White Mage's Holy, perhaps?

And does Primarina have any recovery moves at all?

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>>32087536

>>32087596
I heavily disagree, for primarina you have to know an in-game/code thing and incineroar is just "buffed". Decidueye literally just looks like a nu-male.

>>32087580
>>32087596

Decidueye is bald, wears coke bottle glasses, and looks like an edgelord thanks to the hoodie and archer theme.

Honestly, nu-male sticks out as appropriate.

>>32087596
You'd have to explain the tranny thing everytime to most people though, or they wouldn't get it. Don't know about Nu-male, don't really care either.
>>32087598
Nope, only Rest for now
>>32087585
Yeah, Highest Sp.Atk of all the starters

>>32087500
OR, think of this...maybe it's just an archer owl....CRAZY RIGHT?

>>32087635
not him, but
Yeah, just like Incineroar is a wrestler and Primarina a Mermaid Singer. CRAZY RIGHT?

>>32087627
just looked her up, she also has aqua ring as one of her egg moves. not necessarily a support move, but definitely a boon for a wall.

>>32087635

-> >>32087655

>>32087627
Starters are mostly male. Primarina presents itself as a female. Not much to explain.
>>32087635
No, I think the owl needs an appropriate derogatory nickname too. It deserves one. But the nu-male thing is just contrived.

>>32087655
I agree

The true issue with those starters is that one is a giant roadcone with a football on top.

>>32087716
lol

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>>32087705
And? How does that make it a tranny? It's just a starter which can be both male or female, like every other starter (masculine or feminine) before it. How does that make sense?
Again, I don't care about this shit, I'm happy about my choice so I don't feel the need to use those words for any of the starters. Honestly when I see these threads it just looks to me like people are insecure about their favorites and feel the need to insult each other's choice, but whatever. Peace.

>>32086388
>A owl with a hood and vines to tighten it with a glasses pattern on its face has more clothing than a tiger that has a black wife beater and red shorts as a skin pattern and a fire belt and a sea lion with hair with a dark blue skin gown (assuming it's shed skin from its previous forms) in its tail with pink appendages, four separate layers of frills and bubble headphones complete with symmetrical starfish, one of the frills combined with it

Okay senpai, but can we agree that all of them are guilty of wearing "clothing" to a degree? No need to sugar coat it.

Gen 1 and gen 2 starters feel fucking naked next to the latter starters.

Do the Pokemons 'feel' when you touch their 'clothes'..? What does Delphox feel when we stroke her dresses?

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>>32083995
>Japanese company
>Pandering to American fanbases

Can we all just agree that Decidueye is the least humanoid starter of all time? Thanks.

>>32088619
It's the most humanoid out of the Alola starters.

Despite what people who hate Incineroar and Primarina want to push, their "clothing" is basically fur (Incineroar) or stuff not inherent to their bodies (Primarina's accessories).

Meanwhile Decidueye has these weird fingers and hands and a hoodie and flesh strings to control the hoodie.

It's there, dude, despite what you want to say. Just accept being BTFO.

>>32088619
Yeah, he's less humanoid than Serperior, Torterra, Meganium and Venusaur, so yes I agree.

>>32088619
Are you retarded?

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>>32088619
>What is venasuar
>what is torterra
>what is meganium
>what is Samaritan

>>32088638
You're blind and uneducated, and that's all there is to it.

>>32087443
So its ok for the school shooter to have a over exaggerated design but not the tiger with a belt?

>>32088619
He's just as humanoid if not more than machoke. Have you seen goths before?

>>32086228
>Glasses

Okay I'm getting pretty sick of this meme,
It's a mask, end of story. And if you don't believe me. Think about this does robin hood wear a mask or glasses.

Or does the green arrow wear g lasses or a mask. Just think about that.

>>32088858
>>32090635

Why are owl defenders so blind to reality? No wonder this fanbase has the actual autists in it.

>>32086288
>Decidueye is wearing clothes so it's more humaniod then incineroar and primarena.

From your logic,

If charizard were to wear glasses, a scarf, and maybe a hat would that make him more humanoid now.

>mfw barafags are so insecure about the shitty design of Tony the Incineroar that they have to come up with a wack thing like "numale" for Decidueye.

Stay mad boys

>>32090707
I just hate its hoodie and flesh strings and flat nails its fingertips suddenly become.

Decidueye's still a trash design and I'd rather take the other two if I had to to make the best of a bad starter situation.

And then there's me where I like the Alola starters first stage, but absolutely despise all three final evolutions. They just don't click for me.

I felt a greater bond with my Mismagius than Decidueye. Something about the final evos, or rather their designs, for the Alola starters feels....forced.

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Oh shit we are talking about how we hate "bird hands" in this thread, fuck yeah, i hate them too, they look so fucking retarded and make no sense, if you want an archer, dont make it an owl, they dont have hands.

And hee, the original sinner, go i hate lugia's dumb wing hands so much, i mean what the fuck.

>>32091453
At least they tried to compromise between wings and hands with the owl. Those are literally just big chunky arms that flap like wings.

>>32091453
Lugia's are fine. Owl literally has fingers

>>32091679
>Owl literally has fingers
Just like Lugia? Nigge, those are fucking thumbs, He has 5 fingers, it's literally a giant hand, its fucking dumb.

>>32091679
It has feathers that function as fingers.

>>32085070
>infernape
>terrible design
fug off