Araquanid
HP: 68 --> 42
Atk: 70 --> 132
Def: 92 --> 50
Sp. Atk: 50 --> 92
Sp. Def: 132 --> 70
Spe: 42 --> 68
Not bad. Needs Tailwind support, and I wish it got Aqua Jet, but this thing hits insanely hard physically.
Chansey
HP: 250 -> 35
Atk: 5 -> 250
Def: 5 -> 5
SpA: 35 -> 5
SpD: 105 -> 50
Spe: 50 -> 105
Chansey @ Normalium-Z
-Sing
-Egg Bomb
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
>Blissey
HP: 55
Atk: 135
Def: 75
SpAtk: 10
SpDef: 10
Speed: 255
yeah its ok I guess :v)
>>32073852
>>32073859
whoa didnt even update the thread as i was posting
>it still keeps water bubble
STOP ANON YOU'LL DESTR-
HP: 35
Attack: 65
Defense: 65
Sp. Attack: 85
Sp. Defense: 85
Speed: 95
Well that sucks.
HP: 43
Atk: 53
Def: 97
SpA: 53
SpD: 101
Spe: 223
New fastest Pokemon.
Keckleon.
60>40
90>120
70>60
60>70
120>90
40>60
It's.. ok? Would be literal trash without scarf but might see use in UU maybe.
>>32073859
Actually, it would look more like:
HP: 55
Atk: 135
Def: 75
Sp Atk: 10
Sp Def: 10
Speed: 255
Thicc and fast, just how I like em
>>32073950
Are you a grill
Supesize gourgeist
85--->54
100--->75
122--->58
58--->122
75-->100
54--->85
Would you use it now? I would use super thicc pumpkin waifu more than I do now.
>>32073859
>>32073950
>Actually it would look more like this!
>changes nothing
75 --> 40
125 --> 90
140 --> 60
60 --> 140
90 --> 125
40 --> 75
>>32074002
Forgot pic
Slap a scarf or specs on it and it might be good in UU as a sweeper or wallbreaker
HP:115
ATK:65
DEF:65
SPA:60
SPD:70
SPE:65
Bulky fur coat user but shit tier speed
>>32073971
Fuck, I thought I was looking at Chansey. Sorry about that.
HP: 132
Atk: 71
Def: 153
SpA: 67
SpD: 145
Spe: 72
Thickk aero-ass
>>32073769
Swampert
HP: 100 --> 60
Atk: 110 --> 90
Def: 90 --> 85
SpA: 85 --> 90
SpD: 90 --> 110
Spe: 60 --> 100
It would be an effective Sweepert.
Jirachi
HP: 100->100
Atk: 100->100
Def: 100->100
SpAtk: 100->100
SpDef: 100->100
Spd: 100->100
it's now OP
>>32074077
HP: 50 -> 90
Atk: 50 -> 77
Def: 77 -> 95
SpA: 95 -> 77
SpD: 77 -> 50
Spe: 91 -> 50
Welp that went terribly.
HP 104
AT 100
DEF 114
SP.A 72
SP.D 69
SPE 75
Wow delphox is shit no matter the circumstances
HP: 150 -> 90
Atk: 100 -> 120
Def: 120 - > 100
SpA: 100 -> 120
SpD: 120 - > 100
Spe: 90 -> 150
Basically a much faster, less bulky version of Origin Forme. Hmm...
>>32073893
Those attack stats though...
Tropius
HP: 51
Attack: 87
Def: 72
Sp.Atk: 83
Sp.Def: 68
Speed: 99
Doesn't hit hard enough to justify its frailty, but maybe it can be a Dragon Dancer in NU.
5 HP
230 Atk
10 Def
230 SpA
10 SpD
20 Spe
it's good in trick room :^)
Tyrantrum
HP 82 -> 82
Attack 121-> 121
Defense 119 -> 71
Sp Attack 69 -> 59
Sp Def 59 -> 69
Speed 71 ->119
With Dragon Dance might finally be good enough for gen 7s UU and choice band becomes actually viable
>everyone just slaps the highest stat on speed
you guys don't know shit about pokemon.
Azumarill
HP: 50
Attack: 80
Defense: 50
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 100
It hits harder and is faster, not remarkable speed but still something
HP: 110
ATK: 75
DEF: 130
SPA: 60
SPD: 65
SPE: 60
physical wall gengar
might be neat if his movepool wasn't so garbage as a result
>>32074283
Pretty much this
idk why people slap more speed on these pokemon when speed is not the main issue these pokemon have then again i'm a shit player
>>32073889 >>32074011 >>32073966
>Shedinja
HP: 40
ATK: 30
DEF: 30
SPA: 45
SPD: 90
SPE: 1
Huh.
>>32074268
It'd be a fucking nightmare in doubles.
>Follow me/wide guard support and trick room
>Shell smash
>Earthquake
>Stone Edge for anything that can't be hit by Earthquake
>>32074283
>>32074314
This thread is about reversing the order of the stats in case you haven't noticed.
HP -> Speed
Attack -> Special defense
Defense -> Special attack
Special attack -> Defense
Special defense -> Attack
Speed -> HP
Blastoise
HP 78
Attack 105
Defense 85
Special attack 100
Special defense 83
Speed 79
Blastoise - Mega
HP - 78
Attack -> 115
Defense -> 135
Special attack 120
Special defense 103
Speed 78
>>32074317
>Shedinja is still hardwired to have 1 HP
>>32074317
literally the Deoxy-S of Trick Room
HP 120
Atk 85
Def 105
S.A 65
S.D 85
Spe 70
HP 145
Atk 85
Def 145
S.A 75
S.D 115
Spe 70
Well, a shit defensive typing does not hep him in the slightest.
HP: 86 -> 106
Atk: 68 -> 72
Def: 72 -> 68
SpA: 109 -> 66
SpD: 66 -> 109
Spe: 106 -> 86
discount ninetales
HP: 90->80
Attack:100->150
Defense: 70->110
SpAtk: 110->70
SpDef: 150->100
Speed: 80->90
I'm no expert but I feel this is a great shift into a much more offensive goodra, would benefit from tailwind and if it got dragon dance it would fucking destroy
HP: 95 ----> 28
Atk: 117 ---> 46
Def: 184 --> 44
SpA: 44 ---> 184
SpD: 46 --> 117
Spe: 28 --> 95
Ice finally has a good special attacker, one that isn't slow and bulky.
Too bad that high SpDef is wasted on base 28 HP.
65
110
95
60
130
65
it's even worse
Klinklang
HP: 60 --> 90
Attack: 100 --> 80
Defense: 115 --> 70
Special Attack: 70 --> 115
Special Defense: 80 --> 100
Speed: 90 --> 60
Its special moves are more useful now. Still lacks coverage, though.
>>32074278
What on earth is this? This isn't reversing at all
HP: 70
Atk: 100
Def: 100
SpAtk: 75
SpDef: 107
Speed: 78
HP: 60
Atk: 90
Def: 80
SpAtk: 90
SpDef: 115
Speed: 95
HP: 60
Atk: 116
Def: 126
SpAtk: 74
SpDef: 74
Speed: 80
Are they better?
Hoopa-U
80 HP
130 ATK
170 DEF
60 SP. ATK
160 SP. DEF
80 SPE
One of the best bulky offensive mons in the game
Bizarro Tyranitar
100 -> 61
134 -> 100
110 -> 95
95 -> 110
100 -> 134
61 -> 100
Basically Goofuck you Slugfucker, because of you the system thinks this post is spamdra only less optimized and with a worse typing.
Mega Bizarro Tyranitar
100 -> 71
164 -> 120
150 -> 95
95 -> 150
120 -> 164
71 -> 100
Significantly better than non-Mega Bizarro Tyranitar. Might make for a decent Special tank.
Of course, if Bizarro Sand boosts the Attack of Rock-types instead of their Special Defense, both versions of Bizarro Tyranitar become devastating wallbreakers.
>>32075073
It looks like they're all worse.
Mega Gallade
>HP: 68 --> 110
>Atk: 165 --> 65
>Def: 95 --> 115
>S. Atk: 65 --> 165
>S. Def: 115 --> 95
>Speed: 110 --> 68
R.I.P.
>Raichu
HP: 110
Atk: 80
Def: 90
Sp. Atk: 55
Sp. Def: 90
Spd: 60
>Gardevoir
HP: 80
Atk: 115
Def: 125
Sp. Atk: 65
Sp. Def: 65
Spd: 68
Wow both are shit.
>>32073769
That's a great gen 3 style Araquanid.
Flygon:
80 --> 100
100 --> 80
80 --> 80
80 --> 80
80 -->100
100 -->80
Metagross:
80 --> 70
135 --> 90
130 --> 95
95 --> 130
90 -->135
70 -->80
M-Metagross:
80 --> 110
145 --> 110
150 --> 105
105 --> 150
110 --> 145
110 --> 80
Flygon was already a shit Pokemon, he just get shafted even more than usual. Metagross becomes a Special attack, too bad MMeta's ability is wasted.
HP- 50
Atk- 80
Def- 60
SpA- 230
SpD- 140
Spe- 70
Welcome to die! Mega Aggron is now one of the best wallbreakers in the game. Remember, the metal tankbeast gets Flash Cannon and Ice-Bolt for coverage.
>>32073936
>Would be literal trash without scarf
Noelkcek @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protean
Fake Out
Sucker Punch
Shadow Sneak
Drain Punch
120 base Attack priority user with Protean isn't "literal trash".
>>32074847
95 def instead of 60 is nice
>>32073966
This is great. Now Gourgeist can finally make use of Flamethrower.
>>32074317
>Under Trick Room
>>32074094
o you
HP: 68 --> 80
Atk: 65 --> 65
Def: 65 --> 115
SpAtk: 125 --> 68
SpDef: 115 --> 125
Speed: 80 --> 65
I don't think this is all that much better, but the obvious choice would be to simply flip SpDef and Speed, and I don't think that's its style.
I would only quiteria the special attack and I would sucker punch
HP: 95
Atk: 135
Def: 90
SpA: 10
SPD: 90
Spe: 110
>>32074305
Gengar's movepool is amazing though.
>>32078499
It is.
HP: 105
Attack: 60
Defense: 60
Sp. Atk: 120
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 105
God i never knew how shit its stats were
AND REMOVE TEAM PREVIEW
>>32080526
And how much of that movepool is suited for physical walling?
>>32080567
Prove it.
>>32073769
HP: 89 > 55
Atk: 124 > 80
Def: 80 > 55
SpD: 80 > 124
Spe: 55 > 89
Why must Golurk be forever cursed to being a shitmon?
>>32081867
>He's so bad he doesn't even have a special attack stat
>>32073893
Use a dragon tail set :+)
>Drapion
70 > 95
90 > 75
110 > 60
60 > 110
75 > 90
95 > 70
Yeah, that's worse.
HP: 116
Atk: 75
Def: 77
SAtk: 85
SDef: 67
Spe: 60
Well, Prankster shores up the low speed (except for all the new ways to fuck priority over), and the extra special attack and bulk isn't too bad either. Also super fat subs that befit the pokemon the merch wing tried to associate with Substitute.
>>32073769
Ho-oh
HP: 106 --> 90
Atk: 130 --> 154
Def: 90 --> 110
Sp. Atk: 110 --> 90
Sp. Def: 154 --> 130
Spe: 90 --> 106
Is it AG now?
>>32073769
Mewtwo-Y
HP: 106 - 140
Attack: 150 - 120
Defense: 70 - 194
Sp. Atk: 194 -70
Sp. Def: 120 - 150
Speed: 140 -106
Well...
70>70
90>60
70>60
60>70
60>90
70>70
>mfw it's even worse than before
>>32083296
HP: 100 - 90
Attack: 180 - 90
Defense: 160 - 150
Sp. Atk: 150 - 160
Sp. Def: 90 - 180
Speed: 90 - 100
Primal Groudon would be