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Why did gamefreak give a hindering ability to a mon that has only 530 BST?
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Flavor

Wimpod is a coward who runs away at the first sign of danger

Golisopod is making a strategic retreat
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>emergency exit
>hindering ability
t. sub 1100 shitter
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>a mon that has only 530 BST
>only 530

Look,I know we've got pokemon in the 600s and 700s now, but 530 is pretty respectable.
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>>32073733
I meant compared to other mons with hindering abilities like Archeops, Slaking, and Regigigas which have 567, 670, and 680 BST.

Meanwhile 530 BST is around the typical amount starters get, and Gyarados/Milotic have 540 BST.
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>>32073749
*Basically I was asking why 530 BST warranted that kind of ability when other non-legendary pokemon with the same or higher BST exist with at least somewhat beneficial abilities.
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It's not really a "hindering ability", since it doesn't actively hinder Golisopod.

Truant makes it so Slaking can only move every other turn.

Slow Start halves Regigigas's Attack and Speed for the first five turns.

Defeatist halves Archeops's Attack and Special Attack when it reaches half health.

Emergency Exit just causes Golisopod to automatically switch out when it reaches half health.

Yeah, it could have something better, but it ties into its concept/flavor without "hindering" it the way the above three do.
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It's not a 100% hindering ability like Truant, Slow Start, and Defeatist. GF just misjudged how much the shitty aspect outweighs the strategic aspect of it.
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It helps you get more first impressions in, it's there to help you and you're a dumbfuck if you dont realize it
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>>32073718
Only thing I can come up with is a second chance to use first impression.
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>>32073811
>get a First Impression in.
>Can't do anything else afterwards because you will be most likely forced to switch out.

It makes Golisopod predictable and one dimensional and clumsy in battle, and forces it in a role that's not even good.
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>>32073749
archeops and slaking have abilities that are multiple times worse than golisopod, archeops becomes fucking useless after a good hit and slaking is easy as shit to set up on even for a sub 1100 elo retard while golisopod can still be used as a decent muhmentum attacker with STAB priority in an emergency

i'd argue that they probably reduced golisopod's original base stats in development when they realized that it's ability really isn't that bad.
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>creative ability that requires thought = hindering ability
git gud
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>Emergency Exit now switches you out at the end of the turn rather than as soon as you get hit
Is it fixed now?
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>>32074350

Yes
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>>32074370
Scarf Dugtrio is unreliable anyway as it fails to check M-Metagross 1v1
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>>32075015
>fails to check M-Metagross
This isn't really a damning flaw. It's a Mega. You should have more than one answer to it.
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>>32074316
>>32073725
It is bad, though. It would be better without any ability at all, most of the time.
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>people are literally trying to defend Emergency Exit
/vp/ is fucking braindead.
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>>32073718
I wouldn't call it hindering, but it isn't always helpful either

pic might be related idk*
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>>32073801
It's a shit ability that hinders it greatly. Golisopod would like to attack with its massive 125 base attack, but it can't because it's forced to switch once it takes even a remotely strong special attack. Then it comes back in and dies without doing anything. This thing is hands down one of the worst fully evolved Pokemon in the game and its ability is a big part of it.
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>>32075134
This. Also its retarded to give such an ability and role to a pokemon weak to stealth rock
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>>32075134
Should've also mentioned its awkward stat distribution, it's terrible movepool and typing but yeah Emergency Exit is a terrible ability.
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>>32075150
it's stat distribution and movepool are both excellent though
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>>32074370
Why not just switch into dugtrio directly?
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>>32075027
Depends on the mega really. All you really need is Lando-T or Celsteelia to deal with Beedrill.
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>>32075134
>>32075142
>>32075150
>GF must make every single pokemon competivitely viable
Smogontards as its finest
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>>32075177
It's movepool fucking sucks ass, it only gets Bug, Water and Poison as viable coverage and its low speed sucks.
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>>32075150
you're a retard that needs to pipe down. its stats, movepool and typing are all excellent. the ability is the only thing holding it back.
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>>32073724
>strategic retreat
This guy gets it
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>>32075191
bug and water is great coverage, you mong
the only things that resist both are azumaril and fini

and you forgot sucker punch
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>>32075191
bug/water is pretty good neutral stab actually. check for yourself https://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage

and its low speed isn't a huge deal when it has usable priority moves, amazing bulk and decent defensive type. sure psychic terrain fucks its priority, but that's one ability on one pokemon.
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>>32075191
Outside of Jellicent, SD + Acid Downpour destroys most Bug/Water resists
>its low speed sucks.
Hold up.....
you have an 80 BP STAB healing move to that would hurt like hell after a boost, 3 fucking priority options(one is fucking 90 BP before STAB. Guaranteed to KO severely weakened threats upon entry), and amazing defenses for an offensive pokemon and it's biggest problem is it's speed? Are you fucking serious or just mentally retarded?
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>>32074316
It's ability pretty much prevents it countering anything, especially when stealth rocks are up.

>Want to switch into that physical water type?
Too bad. That Pokemon does just enough after hazards to activate your ability. Now Golisopod will die the next time it's out.
This ability wouldn't be as bad as it is if the ability healed you.
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>>32075245
>one is fucking 90 BP
And fucking bug type
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>>32073718
>a mon that has only 530 BST?
>>32073749
>I meant compared to other mons with hindering abilities
>Meanwhile 530 BST is around the typical amount starters get
yeah but none of its stat spread is wasted
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>>32074289
>Can't do anything else afterward
Nigger, Golosipod's got a good typing (bug/water), a 140 defense, and a 90 special defense. He also learns Sucker Punch, which is a dependable priority move that counteracts his low speed for big damage, has access to Aqua Jet through breeding, or if he's coming back in and you're gonna swap at the end of next turn: Giga fucking Impact for a 150 damage no - recovery time hit with a free switch out.
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>>32075322
Then explain Milotic and Gyarados, who have a higher BST, good/decent abilities, and are supposedly what Golisopod was intended to resemble with the humuorously weak useless stage -> unexpectedly monstrous/strong evo thing it had going on
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>>32075385
GF have no idea what they're doing
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>>32075385
Bug was buffed this gen, you were given +2 priority to make use of its excellent attack stat so just make use of the tools you are given -- a lot of sub-520 stat mons don't even have anything going for them
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