Has the meta become too offensively centered? I find it's

>>31992672

A natural consequence of Gamefreak making a handful of good defensive mon (who mostly go straight to OU) and dozens of good offensive mon every gen.

>>31992672
Pic outdated. A bunch of stuff dropped and got banished to BL.

>>31992672
>tfw UU is basically last gen's OU

>>31992698
Even GF has enough brain cells to know that if they make too many stallmons the meta will slow to a crawl as stall becomes the dominant playstyle. Stall is neither fun to play or watch, which would be bad for getting an audience for VGC. Imagine if the Celesteela fiasco was literally every game.

>>31992672
February usage stats when?

>>31992820
what fiasco?

>>31992672
Naw. #1 and #2 player on the ladder is stall.

>>31992860
Matches were Celesteela are present go waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long.

>>31992860
Two Celesteela stalling until the timer literally ran out if I remember correctly. It was on stream and everything.

>>31992763
wheres the new pic

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but they are gonna release new stats any day now, and many mons from pic are BL now

>>31992934
Gengar will for sure rise this month. It already became an A threat on the viability ranking, with some nominations to A+.

Glad to see my boi back.

When are the new usage stats gonna come out? It should be soon, right?

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>If Gengar still had levitate, he'd be BL

>>31993385
And yet somehow Gengar is still (somewhat) in OU even without levitate.

>>31993419
I miss using my Donphan and Gengar gimmick in Doubles though

>>31993419
Gengar works in OU because there are like two ghost resists in the entire tier right now

>>31993419
Because tapus are mega cancer, he has a niche because he can delete them.

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>>31993477
>GF banishes stall into oblivion
>When they just gifted stall with the best present they could ask for this gen

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>>31992820
>mfw GF banishes stall into oblivion next game and smogon has to do extreme mental gymnastics in order to make stall relevant again

>>31993499
Contrary to common perception, Smogon isn't biased towards stall. None of the pokemon on their own are particularly overwhelming, so nothing really stands out as ban-worthy while overwhelming shit like Aegislash gets slammed.

I do think M-Sableye has reached the point where it could be considered overwhelming/hampering on the quality of the game, though. They should re-ban it.

I think this has more to do with damage numbers being too high. You know this is the case when speed becomes by far and away the most important stat. Kind of removes thinking from the game when you know you have to pump speed on every offensive mon you have

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>>31993499
>Smogon has to do mental gymnastics in order to make stall relevant
You do know smogon just suspect tested dugtrio in OU because stall was TOO good right?

>>31993521
mega sab is absolutely not ban worthy and is in fact pretty fucking shit outside of its niche in stall teams
and even now you have shit like mold breaker excadrill making its job much harder anyway

>>31993609
I'm just saying it's the keystone that lets stall be as cancer as it is. They should ban it, if anything from stall. Without something to block entry hazards, keeping them off their field becomes a monumental task and doesn't let them switch between walls as freely.

>>31993629
stall is cancer because you're not building around it and isn't common enough to warrant building around
it's like complaining about lando being too good because you can't be bothered to carry ice beam on anything, but that's obviously stupid because lando is fucking everywhere
same concept

>>31993578
Yeah, and that sure as hell ended up working out with Dugtrio still in OU didn't it?

>>31993648
Yeah, that sounds right. I made a similar argument in another thread, actually.

>>31993663
Well yeah because stall is fine right now, hence why the post about smogon having to do mental gymnastics to make stall relevant was retarded

>>31993692
>next game
Have some fucking reading comprehension, autist.

>>31992831
>>31993370
They usually are out by the 7th

>>31993692
>implying the top 2 players on the ladder aren't both stall
You are the one doing mental gymnastics.

>>31993499
Stall is already banished into oblivion in an unregulated meta.
If BattleSpot 6v6 was a thing using stall would downright gimp you.

>>31994550
Mega Fug and Primal Groudon: The experience would be so much better, right? At least with stall, other team types and pokemon can stand a chance.

If you mean no special pokemon allowed, replace fug and groudon with Megamence and Aegislash.