Could OU handle it? It's just a pheromosa with worse typing.

>>31965273
It also has a better offensive typing, harder hitting moves, and Tapu Lele exists to make it hit with the limitless strength of a retard.

>>31965273
>It's just a pheromosa with worse typing.
And a much more extensive movepool.

>implying OU can handle Phero in the first place

>>31965273
Coverage, lele, better stats, sneaky pebbles, hardest hitting move doesn't have a chance of fucking itself and besides if our couldn't handle it in the past chances are it can't now

why don't smogon just drop all the shit ubers down at once

>>31965273
>Extreme speed

>>31965317

>opponent switch in Sableye!
>which is also immune to psycho boost and super power and doesn't get its item knocked off

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>>31965273

>>31965323
>only stallfags don't drop dead at the sight of Deoxys-N
Good enough reason to not want Deoxys-N down in OU.

>>31965323
>Kyogre should become OU because Shendinja counters it!
That's how retarded you sound.

>>31965338

nice misrepresentation of my original point retard

my point is that ES alone wouldn't be a breaking factor because too many things take it

>it's another "sub-1600 OU shitters start arguing about balance" episode

Lol

>>31965282

Fighting>Psychic

its more of the fact that Deoxys has E-Speed

>>31965273
The thing that broke Deoxys was its extensive support movepool, so no it's not comparable to Phero at all

>Use Lele and Focus Sash to get off a nasty plot
>Destroy tier.

>>31965393

>implying deo has any way of getting past celesteela, toxapex and chansey

>>31965365
>It's another elo ad hominem/spencerist attitude episode

>>31965404

STAB Psyshock off his SP. Atk gets past the last two.

>>31965404
It's not like deoxys gets tbolt right.......RIGHT

>>31965273
OU = Ubers lite

>>31965470

it doesn't

>>31965273
The only thing keeping Phero in OU is its lack of moves. Deoxys has a godly movepool.

>>31965476
It does though

>>31965273
I don't believe it would, Deoxys has both incredible offensive prowess and heavy utility with two types of hazards and tied for the fastest non-Prankster Taunt

It would also force Mega Sableye to evolve immediately so you can build your team around taking advantage of that

HO would be too strong, deoxys forms can always get sr and spikes up pretty much (and have a vast movepool as a creativity room)

not to mention its way too strong.

this was the problem with deoxys-s and it'd be the same with deoxys i imagine.

>>31965546
Sorry I mean tied for 2nd fastest

>>31965273
As of now, Tapu Lele + Deo-A is one of the best strategies in Ubers, a life orb psycho boost can ohko anything that doesnt resist it.

Considering that Deo-N is basically a slightly more bulkier Deo-A, I cannot see how it would be balanced in OU.

>>31965273
Deoxys-D should be OU.
Deoxys-N shouldn't.
The last thing OU needs is a second Pheromosa with suicide lead potential.

>>31965404

+2 252 SpA Deoxys Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 577-681 (89.8 - 106%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock


+2 252 SpA Deoxys Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 312-368 (78.3 - 92.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

+2 252 SpA Deoxys Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Toxapex: 314-372 (103.2 - 122.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31965297
>>implying OU can handle Phero in the first place

Well it hasn't been given the boot yet and I think its ranking has dropped some as well.

>>31965302
>besides if our couldn't handle it in the past chances are it can't now

That doesn't make any sense because that implies that the OU now is the same as the OU back then. OU now is very different from the last OU Deoxys was present in. Do people on here even proofread what they type on board? Hell, if we go by your logic then Garchomp should still be banned from OU because of Gen. 4.

>>31965323
Not to mention it will likely be paired up with Lele making Extremespeed a lot more situational and tricky to use.

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>>31966620
Still S-rank dumdum

>>31966024
Deoxys is the hero we need!

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>>31966024
>MFW

Think...all of stall's biggest cancer besides sableye, deleted. It'd be a dream come true.

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>>31966666
WITNESED

>>31966666
QUINTS CONFIRM

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>>31966666
TRUTH

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>>31966666
CHECKED

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>>31966666
Good shit, senpai.

>>31966690
>believing quad satan's lies

>>31966666
checked

>>31965994
>Wanting the worst form of hazard offense back in OU
Someone wasn't around for the last 2 generations. Deo-D offense was a fucking nightmare

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>>31966666

Why isnt zekrom or any of the other fusion dragons in ou besides k black?

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>>31966666
SATAN CONFIRMS

>>31966938
I think we've power creeped far enough since then.

>>31966953
>No good physical ice moves
>Basically no moves in general
>VERY poorly distributed stats
>Awful defensive type

It honestly astonishes me they had the capacity to make anything with 700 BST so horrifically bad, but they did it, the absolute madmen.

>>31966977
If anything, with Phero and the Tapus around, Deo-D would make things even worse. Guarenteed rocks and spikes unless you're running Mega Sableye (And even then it can run skill swap to fuck you harder) is a godsend for offense
>>31966953
Because besides Kyurem and Kyurem-Black they're stupidly good. Granted, Reshiram is outclassed by Kyu-White, but it still hurts like a bitch

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>>31966985
It's not latios.
Id use it weavile or mamothswine anyway.

>>31967009
But why? The latter two have much better STAB, better distributed stats, and a far better movepool. Also they have priority

>>31966620
Used to be A rank when Life Orb was the only set, now sets like Scarf, Specs and Quiver Dance have become more popular and it has turned into an S threat. The only reason it's still OU is because the suspect process is slow as fuck, but it's only a matter of time before it gets banned.

>>31966666
Satanquints confirm.

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>>31966666
Confirmed by quintuple Satan