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>trying to complete a knock out 12 pokemon challenge
>it's for grass
>my only grass decks are Lurantis and Vespiquen
>people literally always concede early when these decks don't brick

I've gained 160 challenge points with only 5 KOs this morning, where are all of those fucks who play it out to the end when I need them?

>>31934739
I've given up on taking those knock out challenges.

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Rate my meme deck.

got bored waiting for a tournament match so I went in and looked at my WR with all of my decks with 10 or more games

Typhlosion Memes (121): 54%
Raikou/Electrode (106): 75%
Lurantis/Vileplume (57): 68%
Darkrai Turbo (40): 66%
Gyarados AT (38): 66%
Darkrai/Dragons (35): 57%
Vespiquen (32): 57%
Yveltal/Garb (30): 66%
Gardevoir STS (27): 42%
Umbreon/Raticate (25): 58%
Vileplume Toolbox (22): 50%
Passimian/Mew (20): 46%
Golduck/Glaceon (19): 52%
Lucario-STS Memes (12): 25%
Raticate BREAK/Ariados (10): 33%

I was surprised to have such a high WR on Raikou which is basically the deck I learned how to play for realsies with. I was also surprised to be in the positive with Typhlosion since it feels like I do nothing but dead draw and lose with that deck.

>>31934810
needs a TSG for the swag handsnipes, those are actually more infuriating than crushing hammer flips because the guy is making plans for those energies while you're playing then you say "lol sorry nope :^)"

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I got salty and made this.

>>31935191
At least you know you're salty

>>31935191
the super rod square should be expanded to super rod and/or multiple vs seekers

Weavile should be changed to 'opponent concedes immediately after being item/ability lock comes into play'

>>31935191
Middle/free square should be "Opponent concedes before you can make progress on your daily quest"

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>>31935274
>>31935299

I use an online bingo generator that randomizes placements.

>>31934869
Lurantis/plume: 58%
Houndoom: 60%
Greninja; 61%
Rainbow Force: 61%

Bronzong 69%
Blastoise 78%
Im getting a better winrate at expanded lol

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>>31935191
I would love to experience all of them famalam but no bingo tho

>>31935739
I only have two expanded decks, Raikou/Eels and a Jolteon/Archeops deck I put together on my own. I actually have an overall WR of like 80% in expanded but with only ~15 games between those decks.

What do you listen to while playing? I tend to just put https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHqisfjEEJw on loop

>>31935785
Anything thats not the normal theme tbqh, I even played nasheeds just for the fun of it :^)

How do I open the Mystery Boxes I get from Versus matches and what's the best way to get booster packs?

>>31935863
mystery boxes are automatically opened, you get what you see (tokens/tickets/rarely packs)

best way to get tradable packs without paying is either through playing the market or playing tournaments.

>>31935863
Collections then packs, also buy packs with coins or irl money are the fastest way

>>31934739
You have to give the opponent a chance to actually play. Try a Serperior build or a Beedrill or a Venusaur or Galvantula or Yanmega or use your fucking imagination instead of just netdecking.

What do you think is the worst mechanic in the game?

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Okay TCPI, that wasn't the Virizion I wanted to pull, but thanks I guess.

>>31936233
>not naming the file Pretty in Pink

Anon, please.

Do you double sleeve your cards? I like the idea of added protection, but it makes the deck so tall and hard to shuffle.

>>31936375
Try an EDH deck in Magic.

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>>31936453
>Double-sleeved EDH deck

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>Its another one of those matches that's ability reliant

>>31936176
item lock

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>>31936176

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>>31936690
8 FLIPS PER GAME

>>31936792
The more you post Memebreon, the more I want to play it.

>>31936792
Would one espeon gx be good for that instant confusion or is it too gimmicky

>>31936919
Hurts the deck overall imo since you need to run psychic energies to search for it and Umbreon is a more consistent attacker than Espeon for those matchups where you actually have to go for KOs instead of just discarding their energies until they quit. You're not gonna want to use Espeon's GX in most cases anyways since dark call plus a hammer or two and a TSG to clean the hand out basically sets most decks back to turn 1 from an energy perspective, though I guess you could use it to setup for a double kill with shadow bullet the next turn.

It doesn't even really improve the Passimian matchup because it's weak to Mew.

>>31936792
I tried out your deck and it was pretty funny having the opponent spam angry faces after 4 in a row heads with the hammer

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Is there anything in standard that could use this ability? I can't think of any now, my brain is turned off, been awake for 21 hours..

Victini – Fire – HP70
Basic Pokemon

Ability: Victory Star
Once during your turn, after you flip any coins for an attack, you may ignore all effects of those coin flips and begin flipping those coins again. You can’t use more than 1 Victory Star Ability each turn.

[R][C] V Flame: 50 damage.

Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

>>31937377
Anything that uses coin flips, doublade false swipe from Primal clash is still standard for a few months

>>31937344
making people mad on the internet is the true objective of this game.

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>>31937377
>mfw

>>31934810
Remove mareanie line for more consistency. Ariados has you covered for poison.

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>>31937377
I'm sure you can win worlds with fearow now.

>>31935191
Add "Opponent has a fedora" somewhere.

>>31937377

>It is a remake of the old NVI Victini with slightly better stats

So were there any more remakes beside this and BKP Garbodor?

>>31937468
i'm pretty sure that was standard legal during the same time period as old Victini.

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>>31937468
>Fearow
>Eeveelutions
>choice band
>victini

>>31937377
Generations Charizard. You can now use playful charmander :D

>>31937377

It would actually work pretty well with Incineroar GX. The problem is that Incineroar GX isn't really good enough in the first place.

>>31937377
https://pkmncards.com/?s=text%3A%22flip%22+t%3Apokemon+f%3Aprc-on-standard-2017&display=scan&sort=date

>>31937586
Until they add the alolan volcano stadium which works as FOGP for fire types.

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>>31937377
hold onto your volcanions, we are transcending meme status in 3.. 2.. 1..

>>31937679
and to think I was just about fed up enough with my volcanion deck to sell it off

>>31937377
Steam Seige Volcarona

Fates Collide Dewgong

They both have nasty effects that require a coin flip. Dewgong has water was support. Volcarona has grass and fire support. Run Volcarona with Vileplime

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Cards will NEVER look as good as they did in Neo Discovery

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>>31938078

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>>31938116

>>31938078
>>31938116
>baby wars: the format when released

I'm kind of glad that shit was a huge phase.

>>31938150

Remember Tyrogue vs Tyrogue? Coin flips for everyone

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>>31938150
I only played in the school playground at that point so I don't know about the meta

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>>31938078
Neo Discovery was the last set I had 'old' cards of aside from a few e-reader era promos I got out of a Nintendo Power.

Just flipped to the back of my rare binder and found this houndoom, looks retarded imo.

>>31938168
It was basically everyone running like 3-4 cleffas, then some tech babies like elekid or tyrogue to set up what you really wanted to play.

>>31938078

If there's one thing I've learned from evolutions it's that the older simpler cards definitely had a better aesthetic, though I'm not sure how much of that is based in simplicity and how much of that is based in nostalgia.

>>31937728
And A R I A D O S for poison

delete rare candy

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>>31938175
What's wrong with your face?

>>31938218
It's the hand drawn or watercolour work that feels earthier than the computer graphics used in most works today
5ban Graphics is by no means the worst offender by the way

>Neo Discovery Booster Box - $1100

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>>31938203
Dammn this a great card
Banging artwork too

>Neo Genesis

>>31938228

man politoed is such shit. I'm honestly surprised at how good most cross-gen evos turn out considering aside from that dude most of the ones I flat out despise all come from gen 4.

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>>31937377
They reprinted my boy the absolute mandmen!

>>31937481
Kinda

>>31938264

There were a ton of CG cards back in the day though. Though I guess the point is those all looked janky and deliberately artificial rather than sleek and shiny (and forgettable)

>>31938313

I wasn't playing at that time and even if I was I woulda been like, 10, but damn that card seems busted as fuck.

>>31938225
The the game would be even more EX focused

>>31938319
He's unironically my favourite monster

>>31938340

Well, Cleffa was also made in a time where draw power was scaled down a lot compared to the Base Set days

>>31938327
>mr. mime is fairy now
fuck, I didn't actually realize that

>>31938340
It was fucking busted. Got to get a flip off to even damage the fucker unless running something like crobat.

>>31938203
>base set is nothing but electabuzz and hitmonchan spam, some memekids running Blastoise even though it was terrible
>jungle adds scyther to haymaker, DTW wigglytuff becomes an archetype but it's still mega weak to hitmonchan
>fossil makes rain dance less of a meme with articuno/lapras but it's still a meme, gives Haymaker Magmar, around this time people start teching Dodrio/promo Mewtwo into haymaker as well
>Neo era finally kills haymaker by rotating it out, has feraligatr/pichu, sneasel/slowking, literally every deck runs 2-4 cleffa, the shaymeme of its day

Stopped playing before the e-reader era started so I can't say what that meta was like, but honestly the game as it stands today isn't too dissimilar to the original meta which was heavily focused on draw and big basics. I wish we had a Lass though, here's to hoping that Guzma has a Lass style effect.

>>31938341
That'd be better, EX have counters built into the game like Regice. Meanwhile GX don't have any cards that counter them. They also have a shitload more HP and stronger attacks.

>>31938373
GX will get counters I'm sure
I just like actually using the evolution mechanic

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>>31938373
>GX cards have no cou.......

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>>31938372
E-card had it's own problems. While babies were nerfed in the sense they actually had a retreat cost, it still had shit like pic related and scizor

>>31938434
Golisopod may look good on paper but even with a Choice Band attached and Kukui played it nets 200 damage. Enough for the Stage 1 but not for stage 2 and definitely not for Basic GX with a FFB.

Also, Golisopod will be a promo card to those who bought a whole box or some shit. Hoping it will get here in blisters instead of overpriced boxes.

>>31938434
That card isn't even released, what's your point?

>>31938459
Why not shoot for 2 hit Kos? Why not add sunny day Lurantis for an extra 20 damage ability lock?

>>31938459
It's enough to nail Tauros without a FFB, and with any luck we should get SOME kind of tool removal in SM2. I'd honestly be shocked if there wasn't at least one tool removal supporter or item before WCS. Garbodor is absolutely suffocating ability based decks and worlds will be a fucking snorefest if every other deck is Yveltal/Darkrai.

It's also a one prize card and benefits from both FOGP and aether conservation area and the -30 damage from its ability is actually quite big for improving survivability.

>>31938490
Doesn't the conservation area only work on basics?

Now that we were talking about past editions, how would you rank these eras?

>ex
>Prime
>LV X
>EX (bw)

>>31938507
Good catch and thanks TCPI for continuing to make evolution cards shit.

Like why the fuck do they keep doing this, it just baffles me. Why do they keep giving basics things that make them as good or better than higher investment evolution cards?

Evolution pokemon SHOULD be stronger than basics because they take up at least 2 cards for every one a basic needs. We're never going to have real deck diversity so long as they keep giving basics this kind of shit.

>>31938552

Because PCL (the Japanese people that actually design those cards) are a bunch of halfwits, unfortunately everything basically went wrong when they re-introduced EXs as Basic only cards

>>31938490
> and with any luck we should get SOME kind of tool removal
That's what I hope, since IRL I use a Raikou/Magnezone with Octillery because I'm a poor fuck and the market here is almost monopolized and almost everyone uses Garbodor, Elixir helps but is not a complete answer.
Waiting for Koko GX and Conservation Area for Raikou and Koko itself.
But as >>31938507 it only works on basics, so it's not going to work with Golisopod.

The Bug also cannot afford to run things like Assault Vest for survivality, it needs to hits the numbers in one shot since it uses DCE and Umbreon GX is reasonable popular, while Enhanced Hammer and Flare Grunt are still on format.

>>31938552
Remember also Fighting Fury Belt.
The only thing that the Evolutions Cards have as concrete support was that Stadium from Furious Fist that you didn't want to run either. Because +30 HP wasn't going to solve the things against big basics that can still one shot them regardless of the increased HP.

>>31938575
It's like they think that evolutions are somehow overpowered compared with the big fat basics that EX put to the table.
Sure, there are travesties like Magnezone EX and others not so good yet not terrible either. But they insist in undermine the evolution mechanic, by creating abilities, attacks or items that lock them out or cripple them; or just focusing on giving support to almost exclusively to the basics.

Most relevant evolution cards are technically Stage 1 and aside from Megas, most of them are Bench warmers.

Rules change and you now select a basic pokemon from your deck to put in play before shuffling, and you draw an initial hand of 6 cards instead of seven.

Is this a positive or negative development? The only major change I see is it makes one of basics more reliable since you'd get to set them before drawing prizes and of course memedecks that mulligan a lot wouldn't be punished as much (as if they don't first turn N your 10 extra cards away every time anyways). Also it slightly improves swarm decks since you save one of your swarm members from prizes guaranteed.

>>31935191
Middle right is synergy, not sinergy.

>>31938645
>letting someone set their ex first turn no issue

Lame as fuck.

>Garb came back
>then Jirachi had a baby with Mewtwo
>now Victini

Waiting for that Hypnoburn laser for shit to get real cancer. But really, they reprint all this shit but not basic mechanics like tool removal or scooping up.

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Gyarados-Ex, MAggron and Torchic are the only viable pokemon with victini now, one of them being weak to Torchic AND turtonator.
For meme disruption you have weezing or every basic that paralzyses for an energy. Also i never realized 99% of pikachus use coinflip attacks.

>>31938645
absolutely awful.

the cost of "on-play" pokemon is risking starting with them and dropping two prizes for your 4-shaymeme fa blingdeck hubris. if you could never, ever start with a bad basic it makes all the "basically a supporter" mons significantly stronger

>>31938679
>mill deck

Is it viable for once?

>>31938656

Knowing PCL's flawed logic they'd probably think scooping things up is too long due to LOL PRIZE DENIAL and that there are " drawbacks" in doing so

- Only returns the Basic Pokemon (Scoop Up)
- Require a flip (Super Scoop Up)
- Returns everything back into the deck (Cassius)
- Uses your Supporter for the Turn AND discards non-Pokemon cards (AZ)
- Gets everything back, but uses up your ACE SPEC slot (Scoop Up Cyclone)

>>31938692

Houndoom EX decks is sort of a thing

>>31935785
I have a text to speech plugin that reads out new comments in my active window (normally PTCG General) so I know when somebody is wrong

>>31936176
Ability Lock.

It discourages building around abilities, and makes the meta fast yet unintelligent.

>>31938715
But houndoom is an Ex weak to greninja and volcanion, the possibilities have expanded now.

>>31938719
aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou

>>31938749

john madden john madden john madden

>>31938749
>>31938774
I'm not playing now so it's switched off

>>31938918

you're no fun. let us know when you're playing so we can send you a chinese earthquake

Ive seen a lot of lycanroc decks now everyone has 2 darkrai, damn.

>>31938954
Abrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbbr

>>31938679
My cheese M Mawile deck could use some Victini.

>>31939353
I've been thinking of doing a Mawile deck, what's it like?

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>>31939497

Not him but M Mawile is pretty fun.
Two chances for energy denial is nice. My luck is shit so I'll see a lot of tails x2 but even 1 heads can slow the opponent down.
Starting Xern is great if I have an Ultra Ball for Hoopa.
That Victini can be pretty great in this deal.

So when I buy a booster pack irl and redeem the code in app, is there any correlation between what I get from the pack or is it totally random?

I like the feel of opening booster packs but if I don't get the same cards from the physical pack I won't bother.

>>31939646
You don't get the same cards if you redeem a pack.

>>31939646

it's totally random and honestly if you're redeeming codes you should be using those as currency to buy singles for your decks anyway. If you want to open packs for fun just buy some in the shop or something

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>>31939497
>>31939579
I run something a little bit different. I added an extra Mawile and Xerneas to avoid bricking due to bad hand/prizes.

I used to run max elixir to pump energy onto bench first turn which worked well to get those 3 energy quickly but adding in Xerneas means I can add some crushing hammer.

Team Skull Grunt is also pretty good if they grabbed a big hand, Delinquent as well can be very annoying.

I wish I could squeeze in some mega turbo though. But until the game slows down it seems like the deck is more suited to rushing your setup to prevent your opponent from ever getting a chance to do much.

>>31934589
Right so im not 100% that this is where i should put this, as i dont frequent /vp/ that often, but im running a pokemon tabletop game using Pokerole, and i wanted to know if anyone wanted to join, or if anyone knows if i could start a thread for it without it getting pruned

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Have some code cards I found while cleaning my desk.

Also, how do I start building a Pokemon trade binder? I don't have much but I do have a few EXs and holos and reverse holos. Also a few cards witg a star on the bottom right, that means they're rare right? Should I toss them all in a binder?

Of the current meta decks, which of them will survive the rotation?

>>31939976
Took the SM one, got a Bewear.

>>31939992
The dark ones and Volcanion.

Are there any fun decks like poison or burn only?

>running a Mew deck with 10 Basic Pokemon
>still manage to start with Shaymin and Hoopa

Fuck this game.

>>31940070
That's what you get for being a Shaymemester.

>>31940103
The minor inconvenience of shaymin starts is massively outweighed by how much faster you can dig into your deck with them.

Honestly I hate that it's a card and I'm glad it'll be expanded only soon. I'm considering dismantling my garde deck and selling 2 of my Shaymemes off. Only my Vespiquen and Garde decks use 4 and Vespiquen doesn't *need* 4, it's just a minor consistency thing, you never play more than two or you deck yourself before you get enough KOs for a win. And there aren't any expanded decks other than maybe night march that use more than 2 either.

I'll probably dump them when Guardians drops and use the value to nab a pair of Lele and other memes.

>>31940004
Volcanion only survives in the long term if we get tool removal, Garbodor basically removes any reasonable chance of Volcanion winning an event. You can top cut with it if you get good matchups in swiss but i feel the yveltal/megatwo matchup is just so miserable and so many things have to go right for you to deal with the garb before your entire energy acceleration engine gets shut down, usually on turn 2 or 3.

It might change with Torturnator-GX though because that card's just retardedly good, almost as obnoxious as Tauros.

>>31938645
If anything, rules should nerf basics.

Something like: you can only play one basic on your bench per turn.

Shaymeme would stop being abused and playing a deck without evolutions would either make your hand clogged with basics or make you lose for not being able to fill your bench in time.

Of course, good by m-ray and circle circuit raichu.

I wish we'd get a huge rule change like ygo did.

>>31940268
I don't think this is really necessary. Basic restrictions hurt evolution just as much. The solution is to just stop making such busted basics.

>>31940294

maybe just put in a lot of basic-hate and actually support evos for once

>>31940306
The solution is just not giving basics inordinate amounts of love, like why is that aether stadium basics only when basics like tapu bulu can equip FFB and have HP in the same range as megas? And already have more HP than 1 prize stage 2s which still take 3 cards in your deck while a 2 prize basic takes just 1.

If you took out all of the basic only bullshit or restricted it to basic pokemon that can evolve there wouldn't be as much of a problem.

What are Lycanroc and Rockruff going for?

>>31940329
FFB should at least be exclusive to non-EX (they could have also have restricted it to non-GX, but I guess Pokémon doesn't like to give this sort of hint, provided it was even planned by that time)

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Which one is rarer?

>>31940413
The dumbest thing is that came with bkt iirc, which was when it appears they figured out that they had an EX problem and needed to weaken them.

Then they go and give EX cards the most powerful offensive tool in standard. Choice band will help some but we need more things in SM2 to deal with them.

>>31940464
Jirachi by far, search is worth like 15-20 packs at most, less than a shaymeme.

>>31940479

How much does Jirachi go for?

>>31940488
2 FA Shaymins

>>31940488
tradable copies are so difficult to find it's hard to price the card, I'd value it at at least 75 packs, probably more. It's one of those cards you kinda have to find a buyer for though, it doesn't have that massive instant snap-up demand at market value you get with stuff like shaymin.

>>31940517

I do see it often for a regular Shaymin.
I saw it for 30 SM packs so I jumped at the chance.
Haven't seen any decent offerings though so I'll sit on it.

Where did it get released?

>>31940533
Breakthrough single pack blister promo.

>tournament finals
>playing Vespiquen/Night March
>opponent's only basic is Froakie and he can't get another Pokemon for two turns
>3 out of my 4 DCEs are prized

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>tfw you can't decide on your 60th card

What's a good Espeon GX deck?

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>>31941199
>61 cards and you cant decide what to cut

>>31941336
Umbreon Espeon GX hybrid with Turn 3 Garbo once all eevees are set up.

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>Enter Tournament
>First match was against weird Despair Ray Gard w/ small Gard evo line for healing
>Dropped the ball once but still won
>Second match was against Weird non-GX Decidueye + Vikavolt + Bewear line
>Trash it
>Last match was against Greninja deck
>Got the right cards at the right time to win

Felt like ametuer night.
Won with this M Mawile deck. >>31939579

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Is 25 Sun and Moon packs still a fair price for a Shaymin EX?

>>31941892
FA?
You selling or buying?

>>31941907
normal
buying

>>31941915

It's a pretty good price.
I bought a FA for about 40 SM packs and see normal Shay go for 30+. I'd go for it.

>>31941369
the worst feel

Do I need Salamence EX for DarkDragon, or can I get by without it? That fucker is really expensive.

>>31942339
You don't strictly need it but it's a really, really good one of card in that deck. I personally run 3 darkrai/2 giratina/1 salamence/1 hoopa. Some people also work a Hydreigon in there but that makes for a very crowded bench.

>>31942339
There's a reason it's expensive, it's the best card in the deck and strictly speaking the only reason to play DarkDragons over TurboDark.

Roaring skies will be rotated in 2 sets right? Does that mean I don't have to bother looking for shaymin if I only want to play standard?

I have 150 code cards coming in tomorrow.
What should I build?

>>31942661
You can play without it for 6 months if you wish but you won't be top flight
I'm fairly new and even on my position on the ladder most people have one

I actually prefer Octillary

>>31942706
Get one Plasma Blast Ultra Ball and two SunMoon Ultra Balls

>>31942706
RaikouEels

>>31942408
>and strictly speaking the only reason to play DarkDragons over TurboDark
Chaos Wheel fucks the shit out of bees and M-Fugg.

>>31942772
It does shut down bees which is why they commit their DCE's to board in that matchup. As for M Fug, Salamence EX will one-shot everything in the deck.

>>31942399
This in addition to 2 Shaymin or you freeballin' it?

what's the current best work-around for tauros GX spam in every deck?

lysandre and ropes only go far, and not every deck is poised to 1shot an obnoxious 220 that's shitting 70 dmg a turn

>>31942976
OHKO it with a Darkrai, an Yveltal, an M Mewtwo, or an M Fugg, or THKO it with a Vespiquen.

>>31942976
Carbink does pretty well against Tauros GX.

>>31942985
Which Carbink and how?

>>31934739
Same boat. I used the deck wizard and ended up with a Beedrill and tangrowth deck. I chucked in Virizion with Prize card attack, cause I knew I was gonna lose a lot.
>Gets pack
>XY Evo
>Fuckin beedrill

>>31942985

safeguard carbink only prevents EX damage :?

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>>31942999
>>31943011
Sorry, I was thinking of this card, not Carbink.

>>31943016

lol, i could comfortably 1-of this in M Altaria due to the 4x rainbow energies, too

maybe it's time to meme up my pokemon base

>>31935191

you losing but opponent concedes first

I thought I'm only one who experienced this...

I don't have bingo

Never bought PTCGO codes, where should I buy a bunch? I haven't played the game in a couple years since Flashfire came out so I need packs to make a competitive deck again.

>>31943044

buy a bunch of them and trade packs for cards, there's nothing better you can do

>>31943049

I know that is a good way of doing it but where is the best place to buy the actual codes themselves?

>>31943041

this is amazing; you have shitty hand but opponent doesn't know about this kek and you ended up winning

>>31943052

https://ptcgo.com/game/pokemon_tcgo

did it many times, they always giving them to you right after purchase

I wonder if there's better place?

>>31943052
I use Professor Oak for my TCGO codes, never had a problem and got them immediately.

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>>31943052
I could sell you packs via trades in ptcgo, for half prize what you can find from online stores, I love doing trades in ptcgo and making packs and I was thinking if it would be possible to make money this way, would be pretty great for a neet like me, what do you say?

>>31943079

they are worth nothing

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>guest player
>in standard

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>>31943107

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ten feet higher, darkie

>>31943079
>I love doing trades in ptcgo and making packs

>and making packs
you had me until here, what the heck do you mean by 'making packs'

>>31943138
Hacking the server to give himself free packs, obviously.

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>>31943148

>>31943138
By doing trades, buy cards for packs and sell them profitably.

Mega and GX Pokemon don't count as stage 1 do they?

>>31943223
GX yes, megas no.

Is blasting all my bitcoins in packs the correct way?

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>>31943223
>>31943231
If only PCL was smart enough to actually print this vital information on the cards themselves.

>>31943251
Mega Pokemon show up under stage 1 in search that's why I asked.

>>31943250
What else are you going to spend them on?

>>31938373
>ex cards have been out for a couple years
>gx cards are new

>>31943325
Durgs

>>31943363

MODS!

>>31943360
Yeah and they're doing the same thing they did with EX, release broken as fuck cards with the highest HP and the strongest attacks so everyone has to buy packs, and then release cards to actually deal with them in a future set so everyone has to buy -that- set next.

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If this actually worked, would any deck be safe?

>>31943445
Yes, by KO'ing any of those weak-ass mons.
EX's were a mistake.

>>31943396

decidueye being a fucking wailord is the dumbest shit

it doesn't help that tauros also has a literal DELETE THIS button

So how can I tell which packs are tradeable and which aren't?

>>31943556
Be a man and open all of them.

>>31943556
When you have a pack in your collection, at the bottom of the booster image is a number that says how many you have. A number without a lock sign means it's tradeable, a number with a lock system isn't. Same for card singles. When opening packs it will always use packs you can't trade first.

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[C] Adamantine Press: 30 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, this Pokemon takes 30 less damage from attacks.
[L][F][C][C] Shred: 130 damage. This attack’s damage isn’t affected by any effects on your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
[L][F][C][C] Fierce Uppercut GX: 240 damage. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack a game.)

>>31943657
It's shit.

>>31943657
Looks like shit.

>>31943657
>i know
>let's make the usefulness of a gx an indirect proportion to its evolutionary stage
Reminds me of the Legends days of MtGH, where having more than one color in the mana cost was somehow a "good thing" so they made the cards weaker to compensate, resulting in a slew of hard-to-cast cards which were all underpowered for their cost, even for the time.

>>31943657
Damn, its a disappointment, I hope it will get some support. Or that its pre-evos will be somehow good.

>>31943744
Dragon is 100% outside the meta when DD rotates, i hope so.

>>31943756
I really hope they reprint DDE.

>>31943762
Why would you expect TPCI to ever do anything good or smart.

>>31943657
>>31943756

This is exactly what I was thinking. Every Dragon becomes entirely unusable if we don't get a reprint of DDE.

>>31943894
Even with a DDE reprint, Kommo-o GX is still hot garbage. Just 240dmg as a gx move for 4 energy? When all these other GX's have 250hp lol wut?

>>31943657
This thing needs Quadruple Dragon Energy to ever do anything in a game and even then it wouldn't be viable

>>31944043
band or kukui for the extra damage needed, np. but still...4 energy attack in a meta where Yveltal/Mewtwo are hot..I don't know if there is anything that could help him..

oh boy, opened my fourth fucking lunala, but this time its a rainbow one WHOOOOA

>>31942913
ofc, no serious deck doesn't have shaymemes.

>>31943657
>no useful ability
>none of his moves have any useful effects

JUST

>>31943445
Please read the ability famalam, only stage 1 mons can get the ability effect

>>31943251
I don't think ancient trait will come back anytime soon

>>31943445
not really, lots of things aren't weak to fire, electric or water.
I love that Garchomp though.

>>31943657
Well, they had to make it accurate to the video game, where it takes shit to a whole new level.

So...

Goddess tier
Tapu Lele

God tier
Tauros
Turntornator

High tier
Lurantis
Tapu Bulu
Sylveon
Decidueye (falls to dogshit without FOGP, basically hopeless in expanded due to how easy it is to lockblock)
Umbreon
Lycanrock Night
Drampa

Mid tier:
Espeon
Solgaleo
Lapras
Snorlax
Tapu Koko

Low tier
Lunala
Vikavolt
Gumshoos
Lycanrock Day
Toxapex
Bewear

dogshit tier
Primarina
Incineroar
Kommo-o

Dont make a tier list while we dont know the SM2 meta, it will reolve by itself.

>>31945108
did you just throw all the card names into random.org and post results?

>>31945128
We don't know all of the cards but it's pretty easy to make calls on where the GX will be

Bulu gets the aether stadium, hugely benefits from both big and baby Lurantis, Bulu/Lurantis.

Turntornator is fucking retarded, gets both baby Lurantis and Volcanion support, will feature prominently in neo-volc decks. If SM2 gives us any form of tool removal ability lock won't save you from this kind of deck.

Sylveon will be a viable 1-1 or 2-2 line in any deck that carries fairy energy, it's talonflame with more HP and you don't need to get a favorable turn 1 hand to get it up. It can even search 3 cards so you can get a float stone to retreat it plus 2 other cards.

Lycanrock Night won't be great initially but after Lysandre leaves standard we will be hurting for ways to chase for 2HKOs, if there aren't any other cards that reliably do this he'll be the next best option.

Koko will be a cool addition to Raikou decks but not much more since Vikavolt still feels too slow for this meta and has to stack 4 energy to do anything.

you realize as soon as tool removal becomes a thing, Alolan Muk will just replace Garb?

>>31943657
That art is awesome

>>31945841
Its the worst overdesigned CGI nonsense that 5Ban has produced yet

>>31945904
>o-overdesigned!
It wouldn't be a Pokemon thread without someone like you, I guess.

>>31945637
A-Muk is fine, Big Basic decks should have a check in the meta.

>>31945637
Against volc yeah, and it's good that it only effects basics letting things like Lunala and Solgaleo have some breathing room.

>>31946547
Without someone with common sense?

>>31946757
Who needs common sense when you can buy 4 shaymemes before they get rotated :^)

>>31946547
>Kommo-o
It's not 5ban's fault, the design was awful to begin with

>>31946757
Without someone who would complain that a stick figure is overdesigned.

>>31943657
It uses lightning energies because it has yellow on its body!!!!

>>31946809
>defending shitty 3d designs by 5ban

lol

>>31946862
If the actual Pokemon has a shitty design, there's not much 5ban can do to help.

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Are Americans too stupid for cards like this?

[y][y][y][y] Galaxy Voice 10×
Sing "Ah" for as long as you can. This attack does 10 damage times the number of seconds you sing for. (While singing, your opponent counts the number of seconds. Accurately!)

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>>31946975
We got this with Evolutions.

>>31947034
Yeah it was fun

Surprised to see people here complain about it

>>31947054
>Surprised to see people here complain
>Surprised to see people here complain
>people here complain
>Surprised

Don't forget, the game rigs your draws if you win too often

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>>31944080

>>31946975
Rather, Americans aren't stupid enough for cards like that.

>>31947154
>le too intelligent to...

Take it back to your containment board

>>31946975

This card would be funny on PTCGO. Having to listen to people singing into their microphone as they try to OHKO a Wailord-EX with FFB attached.

This card would never actually be legal for use though because it's a Mega without a pre-evo.

>>31947054
Only people complaining about Imakuni?'s Doduo are idiots who think it took their rare slot when in reality it takes an uncommon slot.

>>31947492
I complained about it being a secret rare, for no reason, alongside the other shit secret rares, cementing Evolutions' reputation as the worst set printed in the last decade.

>>31947618
evolutions is the worst set since base set 2 which was more than a decade ago.

>>31947618
I thought it was one of the only interesting cards in the set

theres like, what, a half dozen evo cards that were ever worth ever looking at?
>rats
>pidgeot ex for memes (except now tauros gx exists so it's pretty pointless.)
>electrode
>starmie
>dragonite ex
>brock's grit
help me out i can't think of anything else here.

not even looking for top tier stuff

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Evenin' folks. We opened the Lycanroc GX box. The card itself doesn't seem great but at least we got something decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrBZ8wN5w18

>>31948277
You are missing clefairy the number one dragon killer. Add it to a Darkrai deck and Salamence ex and Giratina ex might have some trouble :^) it could also copy the opponent's dark ball attack.

>>31948336
posting your videos onto 4chan isn't a good idea. It usually follows up with some dislikes and flame.

>>31948339
>3 energy
that meme is a bit too spicy for me, anon

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>>31948336
Claiming this one. Mainly because it's my first.

Also it wasn't anything exciting. Or at least I don't think it is, but I'm new to PTCGO.

>>31948357
Hes been doing this for some time already, i think its okay.

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>Daily reward for me was a booster
>Get this
>Now have 2 untradable Shaymin EX
End it

>>31949108
So? Trade off your tradable ones. It'd be suffering if you got a 5th no trade Shaymeme.

>>31945108
Primarina has useful effects, it deserves low-tier.

holy fucking shit what the shit is with all the Lurantis Vileplume drawing perfect after item lock while I'm trying my best to keep up with Dragonite..
>gets item lock and sycamores into 2 lysandres to snipe off my Dragonairs while I try to manually evolve while stalling with Oranguru..

Is Lurantis Vileplume good and popular or is it just because I'm at lower ladder atm.? I really hope not because I don't think any budget deck (without shaymemes) have good match up against it and that would suck hard. Really hoping the next sets brings something for Stage 2 pokemons and for other weak stuff..

>>31949492
It's like a tier 3 deck. Lacks consistency on the turn 1 lock and 2HKOs just don't cut it in the current meta.

But if they get turn 1 lock they absolutely can and will obliterate you. And if you're using Dragonite SM.... well, your deck fucking sucks.

>>31948336
Lycanroc is good what are you fucking smoking

>>31949646
Day lycanrock kind of sucks, the night one is good though.

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>win a box tournament this Sunday
>it's an hour away
Worth going to?

>>31949846
Day Lycanroc will be good with hammers and other energy denial.

Hope I get my mail tomorrow. I'll 'll have 125+ SM packs.

What should I spend it on

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I love the artwork for the Legend cards but how playable where they?

>>31949982
In their day? Pretty decent, it was hard to get them in play without box of legends or twins but they were good cards.

Today? They are basically worthless, the biggest meme in Legacy format. If they released a new format that was just HGSS maybe, but VirGen is the gold standard of legacy power level atm, and legends cards are all way behind that curve.

>>31949851
How much does gas cost where you live?

>>31949982
I don't really get the deal with the wonky writing on the Legend cards.

>>31949942
Spend it entirely on boipussi

>>31934589
Have these stupid niggers never heard of caching data?

>Loading data from the servers
Every fucking time. Just cache that shit on my computer you dumb fucks!

Jesus Christ, and don't get me started on those fucking trash bins they call servers.

>>31949942

Buy a FA N.

Alright, who's the asshole that profiled the Malamar Ex deck? I've seen two already.

>>31950108
$2.90-ish. $10 entry.

So whats like t1 expanded deck?

How valuable is Junk Arm in terms of packs?

>>31950386
Oh, you haven't won it yet?
Not worth it.

>>31950415
junk arm is 6 packs

t1 expanded right now is

toad/bats
maxie archeops/gallade/yveltal-ex
trev break
turbo darkrai

people are hyping up flareon/vespiquen but people are going to carry karen for night march anyways.

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>>31950359
>Getting shit draws all night and losing like crazy
>Finally I'm doing alright, might win this round!
>Lost connection to server :^)
>More shit draws
>A win
>Go against that overpowered incineroar deck
>About to win!
>Server disconnected xD sorry

Fuck TPC, I fucking hate shit software SO much.

>>31950892
I played for literally hours today on my phone at work with NO disconnects. (Was a VERY slow day.)

I have no clue what is causing this for some people.

>VS M Mewtwo
>slow start
>Enhance Hammer
>Geomancy up on my benched Mawile
>He Ns
>Enhance Hammer him again
>quits

Sorry dude.

Are those generous coin and ticket rewards over?

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>>31950915
Could it be the canned messages?

I spam "Hello!" when people take forever to take their turn.

That would be stupid.

>>31950968
What's this?

Also I just got all the level 1 rewards. You need 650 win points to get to the end of level two?! Is it even possible to get to the end of level three without playing all day every day?

Also do they do match making to pit you against similarly skilled players?

Sorry, lots of Q's, I'm new.

>>31949846
It's not tier 1 but it's a fine disruption/energy denial Poke to build around

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>>31951003

This.

>>31951080
No idea what you're trying to convey

>>31951003
>What's this?
Multiplier on prizes this week
>Also I just got all the level 1 rewards. You need 650 win points to get to the end of level two?!
Yeah, 90 minutes a day will get you there. That's a big time investment I know
>Also do they do match making to pit you against similarly skilled players?
Yes, there's an invisible ladder

>>31951080
>tfw I never hit a max coin bonus

i got 2 packs from the bonus wheel and both were fac, fucking tpci, give me tokens so I can theoretically buy not shit packs.

>>31951163
>90 minutes
90 minutes a day what the fuck I try to have a life TPCi.

>Invisible ladder
So that's why it's getting harder

>Multiplier
Can you explain more?

Also I'm confused with the prize wheel. It is so vague. It always gives me a prize box but it never lets me open a box so I have no idea what the box is or what it's supposed to contain.

What're the two numbers for on each section of the wheel? What are the green check marks?

>>31950892
I used to have this problem then I got better internet at home. Now it nearly never happens. Maybe twice in a month I'll lose connection, where before it was between two and ten times in a night.

>>31951297
All (coin only?) rewards from the prize wheel are multiplied this week.

>>31951297
>Also I'm confused with the prize wheel. It is so vague. It always gives me a prize box but it never lets me open a box so I have no idea what the box is or what it's supposed to contain.
It immediately tells you the contents of the box. Those prizes were being multiplied

I don't know if anyone has ever told you this, but the way you type is incredibly irritating
You come across as a precocious child collided with a gormless idiot
No hard feelings

>>31951297
Green check marks are literally whether you have that box or not yet. Resets daily yo

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>>31951364
I don't usually type the way I did in that post.

>No hard feelings
Fuck yourself, you clearly wrote that specifically to be insulting.

>>31951387
What are the boxes? The wheel segments always have a box and a coin, right? Does the box "contain" a multiplier for the coins you win?

>>31951410
No, the box contains a random prize. It could be a dildo, it could be a pack, it could be coins. The options are limitless.

>>31951410
>>No hard feelings
>Fuck yourself, you clearly wrote that specifically to be insulting.
No, I wrote it hoping you'd stop

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>>31951423
Ohh, I see. So the number by the coin (which is like always equal to or less than 5) and there might be a multiplier and the box might contain a pack, coins, a card?

Thanks for being patient with me.

>>31951444
You clearly don't understand how people work then, your post was incendiary, it begged to be replied to. Autism? No offense intended.

REPRINT VS SEEKER TPCi

IT

WILL

SAVE

THE

GAME

>>31951549
TPCi staff here, because of you we have decided to not reprint VS Seeker. Instead we will reprint Full Art N to fuck over the cucks who think it is a safe place to store value.

>>31951549
What would it be this time? The Z-Ring, the Island Challenge charm you put on your bag, or something else?

>>31951590

Why not just use the...VS Seeker?
Fuck having it be shoehorned to fit the generation.
Look at N. He has no place in gen 6 but hey lets reprint him in a few sets of XY.

>>31951618
N has to go back.

>>31951618

N was only reprinted once in Fates Collide and we frankly had no idea why PCL decided to do it

>>31951669
>>31951657
It's an incredibly useful card

>>31951729
He came to gen 7 Standard illegally. He has to go back.

>>31949982

With Ho-oh do you pack 60 or 61 cards in your deck?

Im confused, how do two part cards work?

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>>31951590
It's not as if there's a VS Seeker in XY or ORAS to begin with. VS Seeker was first printed in FireRed & LeafGreen, and then reprinted in Supreme Victors, when it was a "topical" item since it was in the current games. If they didn't feel that they needed to change it to a more current item during XY (Holo Caster, for example) then I doubt they're ever going to change it. (Inb4 b-but Oracle and Mallow!!)


Actually, now that I think about it, kinda strange that they didn't make a PokéNav Plus card during the ORAS-based sets, since they did make a Pokegear 3.0 card during the HGSS era.

>>31951836

To be fair, there are a few Trainers that function the same but have different names

Town Volunteers - Palmer's Contribution (Text was updated for the latter to just Pokemon)
Team Rocket's Admin - N
Gust of Wind - Pokemon Catcher (Pre Errata)
Pokemon Reversal - Pokemon Catcher (Post Errata)
Oracle - Mallow
Current Great Ball - Old Master Ball

>>31951788

Still 60 cards

>Not reading the cards and ask how they work

That's a paddlin' You just play it on the Bench as if it is a Basic Pokemon if you have both Top and Bottom pieces in your hand

>>31938327
Is that Raticate Break/Aridos deck playable?

>>31952062
I ran into it a while back. It beat me due to a bad draw on my half.

>>31951549
They can reprint vs seeker if they stop printing N and Lysandre. I'm seriously tired of low investment, easily recoverable disruption cards that are in every deck.

>>31952231
>stop printing N and Lysandre
People will find a way to beat you no matter what

If they stop printing/supporting big basics, then I'd be having fun

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Anybody else enjoy customizing decks

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Bought a Primal Clash booster/blister from Toys R Us for old times sake

It was a dud

Here you go peoples

>>31952271
It's not even that they beat me, it's that they're just mindless cards with vs seeker around. At least Sycamore has a cost. N is just a hybrid shuffle support/disruption 'do anything' kind of card.

Lysandre is only annoying because every deck runs it as a 1/2 of and once you get it in discard, you can use it 3-4 times with vs seeker so easily. The card would be fine in a format without vs seeker and you actually had to make more than a casual investment in the card.

>>31952344

I personally enjoy trashing a Lysandre for future use.

How do you get people to send you offers on PTCGO?

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>>31952333
I got 2 Bidoof. Thank you DK.

>>31952314
nice collection

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>guy just sits on 2 Wailord-EXs
>does nothing but use Rough Seas, Max Potions, and VS Seeker for Ns
>at one point Ninja Boys a Wailord for a Carbink, play Silent Lab and kill it
>towards the end of the game, plays Shaymin with DCE and attacks a few times
>plays a Team Flare Grunt once the turn before he loses
What was the point of any of that?

>>31952364
I don't know
I have a load of stuff marked for trade and I get an offer a month, irrelevant whether its marked or not

>max elixir
>no energies
>max elixir
>no energies
>trainer mail
>3 dark, 1 dde

Fucking kek

>so many people offering shit for Lycanroc and Rockruff

>>31952435
To stall. That's literally the entire reason. A Wailord EX stall deck took first at a US Nationals (because the player was a major faggot and timestalled once he secured game one xd) Pathetic, huh?

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>>31952503
>>31952435

>THAT kid

>>31952503

Actually the Wailord stall deck lost in 2015 US Nats since the Jason K (Toad) won Game 1 and proceed to run down the clock

>>31952534
To be completely honest, time stalling is retarded. Online, you LOSE if you do that. It makes no fucking sense to allow a player to win by stalling the timer. The same bullshit has happened on cart, too.

>>31952551
Does PTCG not have slow play penalties? In YGO we can call the judge if the opponent takes too long to make a move (and I actually ended up losing round 1 during time at the last regional here because I didn't call my opponent's slow playing earlier). I can't imagine just being forced to sit there and not be able to do anything about it

>>31934589

how does mega glaile works? it has 10 damage points on it and it never hit harder by +150...

it's a tcg online bug?

>>31952445
>not doing Trainers' Mail first

>>31952698
MtG also had an incident in 2010 where a big-time pro, Tomoharu Saito, got an 18 month suspension for intentional slow play, and he also lost his place on the Hall of Fame ballot because of it. Here's an article about it:

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/message-from-channelfireball-regarding-the-disqualification-of-tomoharu-saito-at-gp-florence/

Nowadays Magic judges will sit and watch your game if you call them over and think your opponent is slow playing.

>>31952756
10 points of damage is not the same as 10 damage counters. The card is fine, read it.

>>31952781

oh...lol screw this stupid pokemon tcg language it's sometimes confusing

>>31952802
Not really. Out of all the majorly played TCGs Pokemon is probably the least obtuse one, everything is spelled out for you and there's reminder text on everything, almost as if this game was marketed towards children above the age of six.

You're just shit

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>Play as M Fug
>Set up full bench on turn two
>DCE and Mega Turbo on Active M Fug
>Knockout FFB Tauros
>Concedes

>>31952821
>You're just shit

oh look at this kid, he got satisfaction for calling others ohohohoh

you are mentally poor imo...

>>31952845

I used 'for' on purpose :^) because I know who you are in real

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>reach level 1
>Cannot win anymore
Well, that was fun while I lasted I guess. It's not even like I just suck or something, I just have rotten luck getting the cards I need and my opponents have great luck getting all the cards they need real quick. I'm using Mental Might. Is that just a pleb deck?

Is this not an online game at all but rather just "more experienced players" are just comp players with "good luck"?

>>31952897
Theme decks are very luck orientated because most of them are equally shit with no good support.

>>31952897
Tier 1 Theme Decks:
Dark Hammer
Forest Force
Roaring Heat

Tier do not use:
Everything else :^)

>>31952897
Mental Might's not very good. You either get a great start with Milktank or Gallade or you just lose.

>>31952923
I definitely did not mean Forest Force.

I meant the shitty Owl deck.