If Smash 4 gets a Switch port with all of the DLC included plus

Decidueye is the most likely because of Rowlet showing itself as the most popular starter from Gen 7 early on.

I hope no Gen 7 mon makes it to Smash though, the only ones I like wouldn't work out at all.

>>31902400
Gen 7 would most likely only make it as pokeball assists, with Charizard coming back because pokemon go pandering

mimikyu please!!

>>31902400
>ywn get a stage based off temporal tower with dialgas fight to the finish playing

Hopefully none of them, most of the candidates from Gen 7 are really shitty. I'd take Ivysaur/Squirtle back before any of them. And I'm not crazy about either of them, either.

Maybe we can trick Sakurai into thinking Gallade is a Fire Emblem character.

Daily reminder that popularity has nothing to do with character drafting and Greninja was chosen before XY were even released

I think Mimikyu, Tapu Koko or Decidueye are most likely.

I want a Mimikyu amiibo.

I hope they surprise us with something unexpected

something like Bewear

>>31902439
>Charizard coming back
But he never left?

>>31902469
it doesn't take a genius to see that they did everything possible to ensure greninja would be popular

Better question: Who's getting cut?

>>31902484
I hope Lucario

Do we really need him anymore?

>>31902484
If it's just a port, it should be nobody.

>>31902400
>Thinking Incineroar is a likely candidate
>Thinking that it won't be the other three, who are popular and actually good designs with good fanbases
You Barafags really can't get more delusional, can you?

>>31902483
The implication is that the new smash isn't going to have 118 characters

Probably just Lilly.

>>31902490

This is a port, not a new game, and Lucario wouldn't be going anywhere either way, because he's still relevant and it doesn't seem that he'll ever stop being one of the series biggest mascots.

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i honestly think this is the remaining "likely" candidate

currently crazy popular and can fill an obvious space as another large "superheavy"

>>31902524
>Lilly

>>31902527
If it's a port then literally nothing will change

>>31902484
Greninja obviously, it was a flavor of the month character.

I would like to use a swordman to remove Corrin/Marth from my mains, so a pokémon that attacks with a disjointed hit box.

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>>31902516

They'll gonna do everything in their power to push Incineroar, just like they did Greninja. Greninja's inclusion was decided before anyone even knew he existed.

>>31902400
Nothing because Smash Bros. doesnt need even more fucking Pokemon.
It better be Buzzwole if anything.

Watch it be Garchomp.

>>31902573
I'd rather have more Pokemon than anime swordfighters

I want lycanroc midnight AND lucario in smash 5.

Serperior should have been in Smash.

>>31902477
>spoiler
I like the way you think.

What about Tapu Koko?

>>31902596
That's... actually not a bad thought

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>>31902569
>He actually believes Incineroar will be shilled

>>31902573

If a series as niche as Fire Emblem can have 6 characters, I don't see why Pokemon shouldn't have 7 (which is the same amount Mario has)

Smash is an advertisement vehicle anyway, and Pokemon is obviously a franchise they'd want to advertise, so a Pokemon newcomer is an inevitability

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I hope it's Tapu Koko desu

>>31902477

bewears proliferation in the current gen 7 medias fucking crazy

lusamine/hala in the games, team rocket anime, it has like 3 cards in the tgc already, a bunch of merchandise

it and mimikyu are "pushed" as much as the starters, its clearly a contender by virtue of popularity

>>31902596
>prominent in SM's story
>shell and being able to zip around lend it to having an interesting fighting style
>alternate colors can be based on the other tapus
>comes equipped with a final smash

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>>31902609
NO, FIRE EMBLEM SHOULDNT HAVE SIX EITHER, AND SAME WITH MARIO

LITERALLY WHO WANTED ROSALINA, HACKURAI

>>31902573
>>31902586
>not enjoying every character

FUCKING BARAFAGS GTFO OFF MY BOARD

>>31902400
Tapu Koko or Bewear are the best bets.
>>31902484
If anyone is getting cut, it's going to be a Fire Emblem character. The fuck does Fire Emblem get six characters for?
>inb4 salty that my favorite animu swordfighter didn't get in
Well yeah but he was never getting in anyway so fuck.

>>31902674
one of them was really just there for advertising

they really didn't need that many Fire Emblem characters

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>>31902683
All three of the last characters were promotional. Sakurai sucks. I can't wait for someone competent to take the reigns.

>>31902700
>bayo
>cloud
>promotional

>>31902674
I hope to god Lucina becomes what she was supposed to be in Smash4, just a skin for Marth.
I dunno who to replace Corrin with if they kick the bucket.

>>31902705
Bayo was for the reprint of Bayonetta 2. I don't remember what Cloud was for, but I remember them saying they had something going on with Square. I may be mistaken on that one.

>>31902706
Does it really matter? She already plays all but identically.

>>31902714
but Bayonetta got in because of the ballot

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>>31902722
>*

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Bewear is the only correct answer

>>31902400
But seriously, Decidueye is the only one with even the slightest chance of being playable. The rest will either be pokeballs or trophies. I could see Incineroar getting into Pokken though.

Or we won't be getting another Pokemon newcomer, just a thought though.

I prefer Buzzwole and Pheromosa.

>>31902714
>I remember them saying they had something going on with Square
I hope that means that Dragon Quest characters have a shot now. DQXI is coming out soon for both the 3DS AND the Switch, I'd love it if it got a rep in Smash as well.

>>31902722
>implying

Everyone knows she got in because Kamiya is buddies with Sakurai.

Even when she was announced, they said she was the most voted character in Europe. No mention of who was the most voted in America, or in Japan, or worldwide. I thought the ballot was supposed to be a worldwide thing?

>>31902584
My dick would be so erect

>>31902722
>people still don't know that the ballot was an elaborate shitpost by hakurai

>>31902852

They said she was in the Top 5 in North America, and #1 Worldwide among realizable characters.

By realizable, they mean characters they can actually get the rights to use. I.E. Not Goku or Shrek.

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>>31902899
>By realizable, they mean characters they can actually get the rights to use. I.E. Not Goku or Shrek.
>implying
We don't actually know what Sakurai meant by "realizable" characters. As far as we know, it could mean he just threw characters out the window that he didn't see fit to be in Smash Bros. All we do know is that there are characters that got more votes than her, else there wouldn't be that asterisk.

>Alolan Exeggutor swings in!

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>>31902596
I NEED IT
FUCK MIMIKYU

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>>31902722
I'm STILL mad

>>31902828
Buzzwole would be cool. I'd be fine with it or Decidueye or Tapu Koko, assuming a gen 7 Pokemon becomes a playable character.

>>31902943
Post your votes /vp/
Mine were Inlkings, Showel knight and Custom Robo

>>31903173
Albert Wesker

>>31903173
I didn't vote because I am enlightened enough to know that the ballot was nothing more than a marketing scheme to get people talking about the game

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>trash4

>>31903173
Chibi Robo, Chibi Robo, and Chibi Robo
I also unironically think that K.Rool would've made a fantastic choice as a heavyweight brawler. We don't have enough of those, nor enough villains.

>>31902569
kek

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He's coming back and you know it.

>>31903173
I'm >>31903010
>>31903236
you're a good dude

The real question is how much longer Jigglypuff's "original 12" status can protect it, seeing as it hasn't been relevant in over a decade.

You could make the same argument for Ness and Falcon, but they're the main characters of their franchises, while Jigglypuff only got in the first place due to being similar to Kirby, and it's just one Pokemon among over 800.

>>31902400
>Incinaroar more likely due to the anime,
>Decidueye, unlikely
>and mimiku more likely then decidueye

Clearly the works of a barafag,
There headconon amuses me tho

>>31903173
Starfy, and Commander + Ray as a Rosalina clone because that would be perfect for a Custom Robo rep.

I'm not delusional though, so I didn't get mad or try to claim the whole thing was rigged when my unrealistic choices didn't make it.

>>31902569
Have you ever herd of the royal theory. Here I think I got it saved. I copied it from the last guy who posted it. Here this is the royal theory. Barafags open your fucken eye's and read this shit. >When you first look at the Chinese leaks, he thing that stiks out the most is ash, mallow, and incineroar. But you ignorant people can't seem to notice anything else. The incineroar leaks takes place in the battle royal. And this is just rotom pokedex showing off incineroar. And here is my proof. First let's look at the part where incineroar is about to hit pikachu with the table. Notice that microphone flying. That's probably for the anouser. That on it's own is proof that it takes place at the battle royal. Next is machamp. The closest pokemon to a actual wrestler. It's got the belt and evrything. Now notice that machamp is letting incineroar pick him up and swing him without any hesitation. That's shows that incineroar is showing off it's strength. And tell me why would ash show off his pokemon to everyone. That's not what ash would do. The only time he shows off his pokemons is in the middle of battle. And last but not least mallow and popplio. Lana is there too. But I have hunch that Lana and ash were having a four way battle with the guy with the Machamp and the masked royal With his incineroar. It was popplio vs rowlet vs machamp vs incineroar. After incineroar took out machamp he felt as if rowlet and popplio were too weak and he got out the ring and fell asleep. And if you read incineroar's dex entries you see that incineroar doesn't fight weak opponents A.K.A popplio And rowlet.

I put it in green so you see it better. And cry about your eye problems

>>31903173
Andy.

The only reason that Fire Emblem became more popular than Advance Wars in the west was inclusion in Smash.

>>31902400
Look at the types for the smash roster.

Pikachu: electric,

Jiggalypuff: normal/fairy

Lucario: fighting/steel

Mewtwo: psychic

Charizard: fire/flying

Greninja: Water/dark

Tell me barafags, what makes you think incinaroar is even going to make it. We already got a nice fire type, and good dark type. What we need now is a grass type. But we are probably going to get better, a grass/ghost type. And if you don't think decidueye still doesn't have the highest chance, just look at all the pokemons color palette that we do have already. It's mostly, blue, black, red, orange, purple, yellow, pink, white,

Were is green? None of the smash mons Carrie green on them.

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>>31904035
>>31903689
>>31903614
>trying this hard.

>>31904035
>m-muh patterns

>>31902400
Probably Rowlet as it is a Grass type and the other two starter types are already covered. I think Buzzwole would be cool too. Or the Tapus if they would work in a similar way to the Koopalings.

>>31902706
I don't get this mentality. It's more content in the game, why are do so many people wish Dr Mario/Lucina/Dark Pit were 'removed from the game'? They didn't take any other fighter's slots, they were an afterthought that took minimal time to implement. Removing them is removing more content for no reason, and removing them doesn't increase the chances of another fighter taking their place.

No one is getting removed from the Smash port. that would be utterly pointless and divide consumers.

>>31903173
Pious Augustus

I love seeing all the Incineroar haters cry and expend so many tears trying to push it down.

Cry harder losers. Go back to your shitty owl that's at best an okay utility mon or your furrybait sea lion.

Tapu Koko or Mimikyu.

>>31904329
Wait hold on a moment.

>A barafags
>calling people fuirbait.

I think barafags get more and more blind every day. But that's not new.

>>31902722
> a literally who like Bayonetta
> getting more 'votes', in any region of the world, than any pokemon ever

Ah, to be young and naive.

Actually Bewear would work really well I think, imagine it hugging the opponent for its grab and then tightening its grip for the pummel.

>Realistic
Decidueye
Incineroar
Mimikyu
Top Kek
Lycanroc to an extent

>Wild Card(aka stuff I'd be okay with that's oout of left field)
Buzzwole
Kartana
Pheromosa
Alolan Raichu

>>31904372
Sorry. I'm not a creepy furry like you are masturbating to the owl and crying for it to be in the ashime.

Can you post more of your insane essays where you expend so much cum and tears over Incineroar? I need the laughs.

>>31902556
plz no, grenigger is fun as fuck

>>31904452
How would any of the UBs be out of left field, the entire game is about them

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>>31902400
Give me DA BEE

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>>31903173
This boy, Isaac from Golden Sun and Django from Boktai.

>>31903173
Isaac. I know it's third party and it's only a port but i'd fucking kill for a Isaac amiibo.

>>31902648
More people than wanted Doctor Mario or Pichu.

Grovyle MM2 :,v

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>>31904748
Good taste. Not GREAT, but good.

>>31902477
who says no

>>31902400

We're never getting Isaac from Golden Sun, are we? Why do so many of us still want him after all these years?

>>31904456
Wait
>Owlfags jerk off to owls

I think your forgetting that Decidueye doesn't have the most porn out of the alola starters, hell he doesn't even have the second. It goes like this,

Primarina queen of the porn industry.

Incinaroar comes in second place. Because furry exists. And they love bipedal furrsuit tiger.

And dead in last place the owl. Now I'm not going to lie every pokemon has porn. Including decidueye. But compared to the other alola starters. Decidueye was just not made for that shit.

And for proof that furry/barafags love playing with incinaroars body more. Who's the top pokemon in reference. They just love touching the tiger. It really makes you think.

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i mean Sakurai stated he picked Greninja due to liking its design and lending itself well to something like Smash, well over a year before the public even knew Greninja existed. Well it is also a starter and he probably had a hunch it would be popular, along with GF

if he follows the same logic again and picks by virtue of looking like something that could fight, i hope its this scrappy fuck

>>31902400
I could maybe see Mimikyu or Bewear

>>31904939
It's quite sad.
Watch the new characters be fucking some pointless shit like the Wii fit trainer was

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>>31904939
Because his games were some of the best RPGs of that generation and the recent trend of Golden Sun hate is a meme perpetuated by underage DSkiddies.

Plus Smash just doesn't have an earth element character yet. Better than another dozen fire/ice/lightning users.

>>31902400
I'd rather see them bring back Squirtle and Ivysaur than make new characters if they're doing a rerelease. Pichu can come too but I'm not too worried about it too much due to being a big clone with little changes from Pikachu (though they could always divrsify its moveset if they're inclined). If they're doing a special edition of Smash 4, I want all the cut veterans from the past to get in (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, mayyybe Pichu and YLink but the former is explained above and the latter is redundant with TLink) and I want the game to have all the stages from both the Wii U and 3DS versions. They shouldn't focus on anything else until they have all that.

>>31905251

>Squirtle and Ivysaur

Pointless with Charizard being his own character

>Snake

Not with how Konami's been acting lately

>Ice Climbers

Yes, only reason they got cut was because of 3DS limitations

>>31904960
I'd love to have Crabrawler in, but I don't see how it could be much different than Little Mac or something.

I mean, I guess he could have Bubblebeam as a projectile, but what else?

>>31905251
are you me?

>>31902484
Puff if they're madmen
Greninja or Lucario otherwise.

>>31905333
>pointless

Except it's not? Iconic and familiar with casual players? Check. Diverse movesets not found in other fighters? Check. Been in the series before? Check.

If Sm4sh 3ds hardware hadn't sucked, Pokemon Trainer would have returned untouched.

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Lycanroc Night obviously. It already has counter as an moveset option.

>>31905814
>It already has counter as an moveset option
oh shit you right

>>31905005
>there are people who started with Dark Dawn
It's a shame.

Also is anyone else glad they had a password system? I mean you can send your GS stuff from the VC version to a GBA copy of Lost Age.

>>31902400
>tfw Johto will never make it to a smash game
I don't even know who I'd want, though, so there's that

>>31905878
>there are people on this board young enough to have never played Melee

>Hopefully
Buzzwold or Mimikyu

>Most likely
Another kantomon or Decidueye

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>>31905878

its evident that Scizor is a Johto frontrunner and a natural fighter "fit", but id want something fucking retarded like Blissey/Quagsire/Porygon2/Octillery/Sudowoodo

id settle for Heracross for being the middle ground

>>31905333
>Pointless with Charizard being his own character
How is it pointless? The three Pokémon Trainer 'mons all had completely unique movesets, and the two biggest Brawl mods separated them as characters and gave them each unique Down+B moves like Smash 4 did with Charizard with it working out just fine.

Snake's admittedly unlikely, but they should try to get him at least.

>>31905903
>counting Pichu
Eh, just Pikachu with a face-swap. I want a Pokémon character that brings something new.

>>31902852
>No mention of who was the most voted in America
I thought that was Cloud.

>>31902400
>expecting alola mons instead of more Kanto pandering
you guys are all idiots

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>>31902400
>all these delusional Decidueyefags thinking it's the most likely when Tsareena is the most popular Alola Grass type and is Mallow's ace.

What if it will be Silvally

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>>31903173
Slime.

>>31904653
Golden Sun or Binding?
i'm pretty sure a naked child would never be in Smash
Also Golden Sun is second party

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>>31906039
THIS
we need a new grass type, and a 100% female pokemon, not to mention a kicking fighter would be sick

>>31906019
Cloud was before the vote.

>>31906114
I'd prefer Hitmons, but I know that'll never happen

>Deoxys with a form-changing move
Too bad it's already too late

They better not cut greninja he's the only fun character in the game.

His final smash should be ash ninja if there's a port.

Golisopod

Neutral B - Leech Life(Similar to Wario's bite but heals)
Side B - First Impression(does a long-range, strong quick smack that shield-breaks and does 20% if it's the first use in the stock. otherwise, is a long-range, weaker quicker smack)
Up B - Aerial Ace(does a quick slash while flying upwards, puts him into freefall)
Down B - Sucker Punch(counter)

>>31906039
This would be SO much cooler than Decidueye or Incineroar imo

>>31906039
Uuu... first your wrong in so many wase. Tsareena wouldn't fit in smash. I mean she could. But GF only chooses the pokemons that are unique and popular. Tsareena is not that, shore she might have some eragant personality but. She wouldn't be the first grass type pokemon to do that. Examples
Snivy line, and
Dartix.

And although mallow may have a bounsweet and it may have a high chance of evolving, it's not going to evolve fully.

Cuz even in the games it shows that mallow has a steene. Not even a tsareena. It's just like Serena and her braxin. It stays in it's second form,

>>31906114
>A grass type pokemon,
>That's good at kicking

Ya, sounds like decidueye. Or did everyone forget about decidueyes powerful kicks.

>>31904950
Please stop confusing Incineroar with a shitty pokemon like Decidueye you keep jerking off to. And you clearly do with the amount of shilling you do for it.

Cry harder over your cucked owl, friend.

>>31906227
Learn to spell properly, then try again when your posts don't make my eyes bleed.

>>31906188

Or just have him keep his current Final Smash, but transform into Ash-Greninja while using it

>>31906276
Owlfags are really pitiful, aren't they? This guy is trying to shill a shitty owl with bad stats, glasses, and a bald head to us.

He literally wants us to become beta.

Lucha Pikachu

>>31906305
Look, this owlfag/tigerfag/sealfag/furfag/trannyfag/numalefag/barafag/fagfag shitposting is worse than some poor fool who can't into the English language. At least poor spelling and grammar obfuscates the intended meaning to the point where I can just give up trying to read it. I don't care which starter you picked, didn't pick, or will never pick because it murdered your family unless there's a funny story behind it that you're in the process of telling.

>>31906262
>decidueyes powerful kicks
I did forget actually, but Tsareena encompasses kicking moreso, plus she stomps too

>>31906264
>Please stop confusing incinaroar for a shitty pokemon.

But how are we confusing him for shit. His lor is shit. His design is literally shit. The fact that he's another bipedal fire starters is as also shit. His shiny is shit. Do I even need to continue. When will you barafags noticed that incinaroar was made as a meme. Just like popplio, and dartrix.

>And decidueye shit.

Pleas inliten me. Because aside from the questionable speed. Decidueye doesn't got any other problems I can think of.

>>31906305
Wait,
>Owlfags are pitiful,
But yet we're not the ones trying to make our mons look sound like the greatest at evrything. Don't pretend like you don't know.

>When incinaroar gets it's hidden ability, the other starters will be shit.

Funny thing about this statement, incinaroar will still be a shit arcanine.

>When ash catches litten, rowlet will be a comdey relief, while litten becomes ash's new op mon.

ash may not even catch litten. I'm leaning more twards kukui getting litten.

>Litten is the best starter choice for the main game.

Witch is completely fuels. Primarina is more reliable in the main games then the other two.

And etc.

>>31906765

>Please inlitten me

ftfy

>Furry thing about this statement

ftfy

>>31906765
>Funny thing about this statement, incinaroar will still be a shit arcanine.
If you look at it this way then, Decidueye is a Shitty Tsarenna in every possible way.
And Primarina is a shitty tapu fini/Azumaril (not sure about that one tho).

A lot of the starters are outclassrd with the exception of Greninja and Serperior.
Some have the chance to get a goods mega tho.

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>>31904536
>"the entire game is about them"
>literally only one UB that you can't even catch is the only sign of UBs in the main game
>a sidequest for catching the UBs in the post-game

For a moment I forgot that to /vp/, the main game before the post game doesn't exist

>>31902569
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hay guys get a load of this guy, he still thinks tat litten is going to be the next shilled mon.

Hahahahahahaha,
Barafags BTFO.

>>31906876
>And Primarina is a shitty tapu fini/Azumaril (not sure about that one tho).
Nah, Primarina is it's own thing as a really powerful special wallbreaker with decent bulk and a good movepool. Tapu Fini is better (An A-rank Tapu is better than a starter, go figure) but Primarina still has SOME advantages over it not to be completely outclassed. It's about the same as Azumarill as far as viability goes.

>>31906905
>a really powerful special wallbreaker
forgot to add "water/fairy" special wallbreaker

>>31906876
>Decidueye a shitty Tsareena.

No one even compares decidueye and Tsareena. They compare decidueye with the anchor. Cuz they have more incommon. And dhelmise is a bootleg decidueye,

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>>31902400

It's extremely hopeful of me but

>>31906765
Except that you're trying to shill a underwhelming utility monster that looks like a nerdy kid trying to be cool.

What did I tell you? You want people to become more beta and pitiful. Why do you want to do this to pokemon fans? They deserve better than the shitty owl you're trying to hawk.

If I wanted a quality grass pokemon, I'd go for Tsareena.

Keep sperging dude and get mad Incineroar's better than your shit monster.

>>31906934
No one compares Decidueye and Tsareena because Tsareena is a better choice.

Stay mad owlcuck.

>>31906934
The anchor is a shitty Decidueye, but Tsareena is actually (not completely) a better Decidueye.

>>31906966
I would be okay with this.

>>31906905
I guess, but are these advantages really that good ?

I mean, i know Incineroar can learn knock-off got a Dark type that isn't raped by fairy and also got a SLIGTHY better bulk, but people still say he won't be as good as Arcanine with its HA.

Primarina actually have some major advantages over tapu fini and Azumarill ?

If we got any new characters I wouldn't expect any to be Pokémon. I think the characters with the best chance are an Inkling and/or the Ice Climbers (no 3DS limitations to worry about), maybe a third party character.

But honestly I think we won't get any new characters, just remastered versions of the 3DS stages and one or two new stages.

>>31906984
Incineroar can't learn Knock Off, also I think it will be really good and NOT just a shitty arcanine with intimidate, in VGC.
Primarina has tons of advantages (but also shortcomings) over Azumarill, so that's not even a question. The advantages it has over Fini are outclassed by its shortcomings, but they are still there and that's why it's a niche Pokémon in OU. It's a much more offensive Pokémon with a much wider movepool and the ability to burn with Scald, it puts much more pressure when it's safe to switch it in (against Ash-Greninja) and it's much less passive. In general, it fits offensive teams better, and people are realizing that (Fini got from A+ to A while Primarina got from C- to C+ in the viability rankings). Sure, it's niche, but it's something.

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>mfw people genuinely thought indie characters like shovel knight or shantae had any chance next to characters like Sonic, Megaman, and Cloud

>>31906938
>If wanted A higher quality grass pokemon, I would get Tsareena.

Ya maybe if your looking for high quality porn.

And
>Your made that incinaroar is more better then your owl.

Better like how, it doesn't got a good design, it's not faster then decidueye, you could say that incinaroar is more bulky, but only on the physical side. On the special side decidueye beat him at that too. Hitting harder, well when I first sall decidueye I already know he wasn't going to hit harder then incinaroar on the physical side. But decidueye still hits harder on the special side.

Hp: incinaroar
Attack: incinaroar
Defense: incinaroar
Special attack: decidueye
Special defense: decidueye
Speed: decidueye

And if you want to talk about types, incinaroar has four weaknesses, one immediately. And is kinda weak against the whole meta.

Yes decidueye gots five weaknesses, but that's like one more weakness then incinaroar. And he's got two immediatelys. And he maybe weak to some pokemons in the meta, it's still not as worst as incinaroar.

To be fairly honest incinaroar is slightly more bulky and and could hit harder. That's the only edge he's got over decidueye. Decidueye on the other is packed with utility. You can never guess what kind of decidueye your going up against Unitil you actually loose a mon.

And as for the shilled mon thing. Clearly decidueye is the superior pick. Trust me when I tell you there will be problems if incinaroar becomes anything close to the shilled mon.

>>31906876
>A lot of the starters are outclassrd with the exception of Greninja and Serperior.
Venusaur is best Chlorophyll mon in the game though. Speed Boost also made Blaziken banned to Ubers

>>31906966
>>31906976
It's a no-go, Crabrawler is too small.

>>31907125
I'm pleasantly surprised by both Incineroar and Primarina and excited for their upcoming move tutors and HA stuff when they're all eventually released.

>>31907152
>Crabrawler is too small
then what the fuck is Olimar

>>31907125
>>31907156
And not to mention that Primarina has so much hidde potential. Just imagine if it got Moonlight or boomburst.

>>31906966
One puuuuunch!!!!!!

>>31907125
>Incineroar can't learn Knock Off
My bad i was thinking about Fake Out, i'm retarded.

>>31907150
The best part is Incineroar does have a great design by default because it's better than than a beta nerd owl trying to be edgy.

And great. You get ten more speed and Special Defense points, which won't matter when it can go down immediately thanks to shitty HP and defense and terrible speed, and your mon has to get a seriously useful move in Spirit Shackle to make it even worthwhile enough to use. At least Incineroar can actually take a hit, give one back, and not depend on endless spirit shackle or u-turns to stay alive and useful.

The only problems that'll happen is when the owlcucks like you go on damage control in the future yet again.

Oh yeah. I can't even believe you resort to porn arguments to defend Decidueye over Tsareena. Is this really what owlcucks have become? Resorting to porn for defense? Jesus. I knew you were beta but not THAT beta. I don't even go searching for that shit like you so it's irrelevant to me.

Go jerk off to more owl porn, jesus.

Speaking of move touters what if decidueye got lastresort, spirit shackles last resort decidueye anyone.

Also lowsweep for those pesky normal types.

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>>31907172
>Everything that can learn Solarbeam can learn Sunny Day
>Only 2 evolution lines, a single stage, and 2 ledgendaries learn both Moonblast and Moonlight
Why is Gamefreak is so shit at game design? Is this really their mindset "balance"?
Christ...

>>31907150
>On the special side decidueye beat him at that too
Hold up.
>252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Decidueye: 277-328 (93.2 - 110.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
>252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 302-356 (91.2 - 107.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
Incineroar has slightly better Special bulk due to having a higher HP stat. Couldn't let that slide.
As for hitting harder specially, neither one should be using their Special attacking stats because a) Incineroar's is garbage and b) Decidueye's Special movepool is garbage, but
>0 SpA Decidueye Energy Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 97-115 (28.4 - 33.7%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO
>0 SpA Incineroar Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 99-117 (29 - 34.3%) -- 2.5% chance to 3HKO
Base Power also matters.

And you still need to fix your spelling and grammar, it took me until the second "immediately" to realize that you meant "immunity".

>>31903173
Wonder Red

>>31907236
Wow you kinda reapeted what you said the last Time. But this time you said.

>Incinaroar can take more hits then decidueye.

Oh really. Then explain.

Moonblast: from tapu lele
Thunder/thunderbolt from tapu koko
High jump kick, from pharamosa.
Wait,... no that's too easy. Lets use non legendary pokemons.

Earthquake from garchomp.
Waterfall from gyrados.
Water shrunken from greninja.
Bolldoz from arcanine.
Any fighting type move from M-loponny.
Hypervoice from M-gardevior.
Etc

If you didn't noticed yet those are pokemons that are common in the meta. Two aren't out yet.

And all of those moves coming from the spisifc pokemon I mentioned. Ya decidueye can tank all of them. O what's your point.

And are you shore Tsareena is better then decidueye. Cuz it only outspeeds decidueye by two points. They both have give weaknesses.But unlike Tsareena, decidueye has two immediatelys. And two stabs. And decidueye has a better signature move. Traping people is way better then dropping there defense. And yes Tsareena dose got a better ability but how useful is stopping priority if the opponent can still out speed you. And with five weaknesses there more then likely to have a move strong against you.

>>31903173
the black guy from other M

Tapu Koko would be great.

>>31907236
Wait
>incinaroar
>Good design

Nice meme you got here anon

>>31902648

He didn't choose Rosalina as a fan request

He chose Rosalina because he wants a Psuedo Ice Climbers that can represent the Mario Galaxy series

>>31907463
Sometimes I try to convince myself that these are falseflaggers, but no, owlfags are actually like this. A falseflagger can't possibly be this dedicated.

>Sakurai has basically been inactive from Twitter for a year bar one post on Christmas linking to an interview

is this Smash port actually happening?

>>31907463
>ignores factual math post above comparing cat and owl's de-facto bulk that show how bad Decidueye is to do mental gymnastics on how mango pokemon kicks owl's ass.

...so yeah I'm pretty sure both Incineroar and Tsareena are better, actually.

>>31902683
>>31902700

Marth and Ike is good

Robin was great for not being a generic blue haired prince and you can't ignore the massive popularly FE blew after Awakening

Lucina was an alt made into a character because extra time

Roy because people won't shut the fuck up about it

Corrin for literal advertisement

Honestly, Roy and Lucina are the ones that should be cut or Atleast be pushed back as alts because they both are literal clones

>>31902943

I see it more as Bayonetta being the character that would gain the most buzz within the top characters

I'm glad he went with it

The reactions were fucking great

>>31907368
WTF are you talking about. The chart says that decidueye has a higher chance of surviving a draco And a energy ball. What the fuck are you talking about.

>>31907573
A-anon...

>>31907573
LOL

BTFO thanks to basic math.

>>31907463
Not the anon you're replying to, but come on
>Moonblast: from tapu lele
I don't even need to run calcs to know that Incineroar takes Lele's Moonblasts better than Decidueye takes Lele's Psychics. And from the calcs I already ran showing that Cade has better overall special bulk than Owl, Incineroar still takes any Moonblast better than Decidueye does.

>Waterfall from Gyarados
Mega Gyarados deals more damage to Owl with Crunch, vanilla's Supersonic Skystrike is even worse
>Water Shuriken
I would've brought up Hydro Pump, and Decidueye hates Dark Pulse too
>Bulldoze from a Fire Type
I don't need to elaborate.
>any Fighting move from a Pokemon with Scrappy
HJK actually OHKOes Decidueye too.
>M-Gardevoir
See point one.
>>31907573
Read that again. Hot Cade survives Draco slightly more often than Owl does, while dealing about 1% more damage with Fire Blast than Decidueye does with Energy Ball.

Decidueye's still better at what it does, but you're looking at the numbers all wrong.

>>31907539
How about you do the math barafag. Cuz I already did. And see how retarded your.

I think it's more likely it doesn't happen until Gen VIII

>>31907618
The math was already done and you can't even read it properly. Shit man, look at >>31907613.

BTFO owlcuck, you're polluting the board with your shit owl.

>>31907640
Wait wait wait, I just noticed something. You've literally lured me Into a aera were incinaroar exales at. And that's the games. How about we step out from there and go to another topic, like the tcg, or the anime.

really need that "decidueye is surrounded by idiots" image because its own fanbase continues to act like total fucking retards

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Grovyle

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>>31907727

>>31907785
I believe decidueye is referring to.

>>31907727
>>31907640
>>31902400
>>31902569
These furrsuit tiger here.

>>31908236
Sorry anon, but it's exactly because I like Decidueye that I can't stand its cancerous fanbase, that I'd like to believe are falseflaggers, but I've been witness to too many stupid fanbase wars over the years to be able to trust that hope.

>>31903520
If Jigglypuff were going to be removed, they'd have done it in Brawl when they culled the dead weight out of Melee's roster. Puff is an iconic part of the Smash series, even if she's not very relevant as a Pokemon.

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big fat grappler thats highly popular and also pretty prominent in all the external Gen 7 media

practically writes itself

but if it were up to me itd be something more off the wall like Crabrawler/Salazzle/A-Exeggutor

>>31908347
Seriously,...do you really take me as a idiot. Clearly I can tell your a barafag acting like a owlbro. Seriously I've exposed way too many of you kind of people. I can tell if a barafag is trying to fuck with my mind. And trust me when I tell you your acting is not very afective.

Try again barafags

Incineroar isn't likely at all imo, at least compared to the alternatives.

imo it goes something like
>Mimikyu
>Decidueye
>Tapu Koko
>Lycanroc Midday/Midnight (as two seperate characters?)
>Silvally (unlikely)
>Incineroar
>Buzzwole (very unlikely but worth mentioning)
>Pheromosa (Nah)

Maybe switch Decidueye, Mimikyu, and Tapu Koko's places, and maybe swap Silvally and Incineroar.

The only other mons I could see being included are...Marshadow, I guess?

Also, we all agree Ash-Greninja will be Greninja's new final smash, right?

Drop Lucario for one of the ghosts.
Decidueye would fill the grass starter slot.

Fuck it, both ghosts please.

>>31908607
No, owlcucks are just beginning to realize their chosen mon is shit. Games, Rowlet in the ashime won't evolve, all of it.

>>31909553
This
Owl cunts seriously need to be wiped out in a concentration camp they'll pray for a god to save them

>>31903520
Jigglypuff occupies an important niche playstyle in the Smash community that has been present in every game since the first.

At this point it's a matter of keeping her in because she's a Smash character, not because she's a Pokemon character.

Can you imagine playing Smash Bros. without Captain Falcon? He's so integral to the identity of the series and he'll be in every installment no matter how many F-Zeros don't come out.

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>>31903173
I want Vaati, Geno, King K. Rool in this nothing else just pls

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>>31903173
Ice Climbers and Wonder Red. Bayonetta getting in satisfied me regarding the latter.

>>31902400
marshadow

if your favorite pokemon was made a fighter in smash, what would it's final smash be?

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>>31910222
Here's my Sunday best
HYDRO CANNON

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>>31910222
Oceanic Operetta never ;-;

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>>31910222
Literally a copypaste of Marth's/Lucina's final smash, a critical hit.

Alolan Raichu, a heavier clone of Pikachu

Nihilego

>most notable UB
>Poison isn't in Smash yet and could be easily realized, Rock is only Charizard's Rock Smash

G7 will probably end up getting skipped though.

>>31910661
It WAS in Smash though. There are other types that were never playable, like Bug, Ice, like you said Rock, Ground, Ghost and surprisingly Dragon.

>>31903173
mine would be anyone from metroid (except characters or things from other m and federation force).

>>31903213
This

>>31902400
Mario Kart and Smash are sort of opposites in that characters are more important that stages in Smash where as tracks are more important than characters in Mario Kart. So if we were to take Mario Kart Deluxe as an example of what the Smash port would be like, it would be the same roster (with DLC characters included) with some new stages and maybe a new game mode. I can't see them adding any new characters except maybe Ice Climber, and they may end up combining the exclusive Wii U and 3DS stages (and maybe adding Smash Run).

>>31902400
>Most likely, due to anime
what kind of shitpost is that?

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>>31902400
>Incineroar more likely than Decidueye
Can someone explain this reasoning? I thought Rowlet was the most popular gen 7 starter by a landslide. Decidueye also stands out the most and appeals to the same demographic as Greninja, plus has a niche as a mid-range fighter with a mix of arrows and kicks.
Other frontrunners are the Lycanrocs, Mimikyu and Koko, but I simply don't see El Tigre in the lineup.
>>31907137
Corrin getting in Smash just proves that as long as marketing is involved, even a self insert from a glorified dating sim can hang out with industry legends. Fuck Corrin.

>>31910888
I feel mixed on Corrin.

>thought he'd be an obvious choice for Smash 5 but ends up in 4
>don't agree with there being another FE character, but have a lot of fun playing as him

>>31909553
Really,... rowlet won't evolve. Even tho its the most popular out of the three. You really think ash having a incinaroar is good for marketing. It's just like the emboar thing in BW. If they gave ash a samurott or serpireor. They probably would've sold more. But instead owshowott is joke, and Snivy is a girl. And they tried to shilled tetpig. But due to the negative attention it got. They scraped it and gave the role to krookadile. The least popular one always sells less. There's no secret about that. incinaroar is literally less loved then popplio. Let that sink in for a moment. And if you think I'm trolling. Check the Japanese Twitter poles for the final evolutions of the alola starters. And then check the shares. Trust me. Since game freak is aware of this. Why would they give the stop to a mon that wouldn't sell as much. And don't give me that shit that rowlet is another comdey relief bullshit. Cuz if you don't know the pokemon sun and moon anime is a comdey relief show. Rockruff and pikachu got really fat once and then turned Bach to normal then next sean. But apparently they don't count as comedy relief worthy. But rowlet does what every other character does in the sun and moon series, make some few funny faces and act adorable. And he is automatically a useless comdey relief pokemon. Ya bullshit. We can't even see how rowlet really acts like because he's asleep all the times. And it's not because he's lazy, it's because he's nocturnal. Like what the pokemon menga pointed out. I believe we'll get a rowlet focused episode soon. That tells tells and shows us rowlet full background. Cuz it can't just be the egg that acsidantly ended up in another bird's nest. Something happened to rowlets perants or something.

>>31907692
You were originally talking about the games. The TCG and Anime don't matter because you weren't talking about those.

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>>31910812
>>31910888

Rowlet is not going to evolve.

Greninja (at the time Froakie) was Ash's signature Pokemon in Kalos.

This gen, Litten is being set up to play that role.

>>31912398
>Litten The shilled mon for sun and moon anime.

This is meme right, it's got to be a meme. No one is that autistic.

>>31912398
Incinaroar can't be ash's ace. That job goes to decidueye. Think about who's the most likely alola pokemon for smash. It's not incinaroar cuz charizard is better fire type. And greninja is a better dark type. Can't primarina cuz greninja. Can't be mimku Cuz we already have a fairy pokemon. #jigglypuff
Seriously decidueye is the most likely canidet for smash. And there can't be a decidueye in smash without a strong representative Decidueye in the anime.

As for litten I can see him taking a better stop as kukui's pokemon. Since kukui has nothing. No ring meaning not married. And ash took his dog. Wait scratch that. He never had it to begin with. The intro lies a lot. And that pic you have here might just be one of them. Trust me kukui needs an incinaroar. Not ash.

And you guys only think low of rowlet cuz you haven't seen his full nature. Since he's nocturnal he's sleeping all the times. Just like rockruff, we never looked at him like a fighter until this last episode. But just wait until we get a rowlet focused episode that takes place in the night. Then you'll see why he's going to be ash's new ace.

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Primarina is the only answer

>>31902400
Tapu Koko and Alolan Raichu should be in that list

>>31912592
I fucking despise Incineroar but I want it to be Incineroar just so you get btfo.

>>31910680
>and surprisingly Dragon
Charizard's Final Smash is the most recognizable Dragon-type there is. Unfortunately.

>>31912592
>my headcanon is right because I said so
Also
>Incineroar can't be it cuz he's fire and dark type m-m-muh patterns !!!

>Incinaroar being most likely to enter smash.

>Incinaroar is going to be ash's ace for sun and moon anime.

>Incinaroar is most marketable alola starter.

When will these memes ever end

>>31912764
>I hate incinaroar but love decidueye. But I think rowlet is comedy relief, and incinaroar is a going to be the shilled mon. and I'm totally not a barafag. Trying to troll you.

Have barafags gone that low that they try and pretend to be Owlfags. But clearly show that their barafags. Makes you wounder.

>>31913237

When they stop being true.

You have to be blind not to see it.

>>31913283
He could've been a sealfag, or an actual owlfag, but nah, it's always a falseflagging barafag, after all how can the owl (that's basically god at this point) not be the center of attention in every possible way.

>>31913334
>when they stop being true.

When we're they ever true. In fact all the evidence you ignorant barafags have shown got debunked multiple times.

>Lets see ash catching litten episode seven.
Didn't happen

>The Incinaroar Chinese leaks
Royal theory,
Tho it might just be a theory and possibly be wrong. The fact that it points out some things people never seem to notice before just tells me it could possibly be on to something.

>The intro sean were litten is in front of ash.

Literally the sean were it showed rockruff being kukui's ace mon. Witch was not true cuz kukui never caught it let alone used it in battle.

>>31913458
Lieying this hard.

Please barafag, when you stop acting fake, then I'll take you more serious.

But for now your just a kid in my eyes

>>31902569
Just make him an alt skin for Captain Falcon, too easy

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>>31902674
>new characters are added for the port
>its just more FE characters

>>31913550
Geez sorry for lieying...
But in all seriousness, you can't call someone a kid when you yourself can't accept that people have different views than what you have.
>whatever I like is the truth and whatever I don't is probably just a falseflagging barafag.
That alone is childish.

>>31912398
>Rowlet is not going to evolve
but why?

>>31902400
Can I just get Shantea instead?

>>31906039
>Tsareena is the most popular Alola Grass type
no

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>>31913654

Jokemon, like Piplup, Oshawott, and Chespin before it

>When the new character is Sun and can summon pokemon from pokeride

>>31913712
no

>>31903173
shovel knight, wolf, snake, bayonetta, and metal sonic

Lillie & Nebby as a Rosalina & Luma clone

>>31913699
Uuu...

Let's see.
>That face that litten made when it got it's tail stepped on.


>Pikachu And rockruff getting really fat then turning back to normal the next Sean.

>Evryone in the intro dancing.

>Rockruff and pikachu makeing
The cutest faces after eating the pancakes.

Literally rotompokedex is going to be dressed as a detective,

The whole entire sun and moon anime is a fucken comdey relief. Evryone makes funny faces, Evryone but kukui is practically a comdey relief character.

So is rowlet really the pokemon here. Or is it just the sun and moon anime.

And keep in mind, no one took rockruff serious, or thought he was a fighter until episode 15.

So barafag your point is.

>>31902400
Greninja was the most popular.
Edgy Owl is most popular
They dont have a grass starter pokemon
I think we now know who will be in Smash.

>>31913629
First of all I didn't even wrote that. Your acting as if I'm the only Owlfag Here.

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>>31910222
He begins to take off the disguise and the screen goes dark for a second (so it stays a mystery to the player), when the screen brightens again, everyone nearby goes flying.

>>31913940
Primarina?

>>31913977
I'm was literally saying how there are different type of owlfags out there.
And I'm sorry for assume, that much I owe you.

>>31913283
>I think rowlet is comedy relief, and incinaroar is a going to be the shilled mon. and I'm totally not a barafag. Trying to troll you.
Tell me, please, when did I say that?

Also
>Doesn't know proper gramar
>Likes Decidueye
>Can't admit when he's wrong
Underage detected.

Pheromosa would be fucking cool in Smash.

>>31902400
I'd say Incineroar simply because he's the most "fighter" like of the bunch. Coming up with moves for him shouldn't be difficult either since they can just give him a bunch of pro wrestling moves.

>>31902490
>>31905788

Never gonna happen

Even Marth is more likely to get cut than Lucario

>>31913940
>They dont have a grass starter pokemon

So, what does that have to do with anything

They have Charizard and Greninja because they're icons of their respective generations, their types have nothing to do with it

>>31914094
Really,... were did you say that.

>>31907236
>>31907368
>>31906938
>>31906876
>>31906305
>>31906264
>>31912764
This trash right here. You have not said one thing that prooved to me that your anything close to and Owlfag.

>>31914381
That's because you're quoting different people, dumbass. I'm >>31907368 and I just wanted to point out something you got objectively wrong.

>>31914179
You know in xy greninja wasn't really the most "fighting like" starter out of the kalos starters. that was chesnaught, he even had the fighting typing. but guess who's in smash. And guess who isn't.

They'd probably choose a Pokémon with a unique Z-move to show them off

>>31902722
Here's your (You)

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>>31902490
>tfw the only character I can actually play properly
Fuck you too.

Come on anon let's be for reals for a moment. We haven't had a good grass type starter representative in the pokemon anime Since sceptile. We already have two fire types charizard, infernape. And now that I think about it We also got two darck type reps too. Krookadile and greninja. So why not just give the grass starters another try And also anon the ghost types too.

>>31915549
That's because they keep making shitty grass starters like Decidueye.

>>31902573
Buzzwole would be hilarious.